EXPERIENCE 215 | Igniting Passion for Business through DECA with Edward Rinehart - Graduating Senior at Rocky Mountain High School and Future Business Leader

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I met Edward Reinhardt at my Rotary Club where he was sharing his journey with deca, the Distributed Education Clubs of America, an organization that prepares emerging leaders and entrepreneurs and marketing, finance, hospitality, and management through educational programs and competitions.

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Colorado had 9,000 participants in DECA programs in 2024 with the top competitors advancing through district competitions to state and international.

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Edward has been involved in DECA for all four years of his high school journey.

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Made it all the way to the international competition his freshman year, and has served on the leadership team ever since.

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He won the state competition in entrepreneurship this February, and we're wishing him luck at internationals in May.

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This is a different journey than most of our local experience episodes just getting started, but I learned a lot and enjoyed a wonderful conversation, and you will too.

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So especially if you've got kiddos still in school or grandkids going to high school soon, or if you might want to be a volunteer judge for the district or state competitions, I hope you'll tune in and enjoy my conversation with Edward Reinhardt.

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Let's have some fun.

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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My guest today is Edward Reinhardt and he is a student here in Fort Collins at Rocky.

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So let's do jump right into like, um, DECA as a program.

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So the, the purpose of it is really for kind of practical experience for business students Yeah.

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Ish.

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In, in a way get them thinking bigger Uhhuh.

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So I think what the best thing that DECA provides is kind of get to dip your toes in a little bit.

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Get to see, is this something that I want to do in my future?

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Do I want to be a finance person?

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Do I want to do marketing?

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Do I want to be an entrepreneur?

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All those kinds of things.

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And it, it lets you.

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Test it out before you have to go and get that degree or, or even pick a degree co Right.

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Course for college, whatever, all those things.

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Yeah.

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Because that can be very costly or to make that kind of decision, especially really early on in life, and it provides those kinds of opportunities to say, yeah, yeah.

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Do I like this?

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Do I, do I like these concepts of marketing?

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Do I like entrepreneurship?

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Do I like working on these 20 page reports?

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Yeah.

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Is this something that I could see myself doing for the rest of my life?

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Well, and even getting a chance to probably interact with a number of business people and things like that.

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Is that true?

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Yeah.

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At the, at the, especially at the international level, you get to meet a lot of people, uh, but also in the local level.

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Like I, in my experience, I've networked and talked to a bunch of business leaders Sure.

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Around here.

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Yeah.

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You weren't scared to come on the local experience podcast.

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Right.

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I got to meet you.

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Yeah.

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So there's a lot of different opportunities involved with that, and it's, it's a very lower, low stakes experience.

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Mm-hmm.

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But it, it.

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You know, in a way provides avenues for, okay, this is what I might be doing as a sports marketer or as a marketing professional.

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Yeah.

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As a finance individual.

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Is this a, a, a nonprofit organization or is it like a four H kind of thing almost, or a Rotary club?

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I think they're a 5 0 1 C3 is what they're officially listed as.

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But so they're an international, uh, nonprofit with associations listed around the world.

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Oh, right.

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Like almost like chapters or whatever.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So there's 50 50 associations in the United States.

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Okay.

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And then there's, I don't remember the exact count, like 14 international associations, so, okay.

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Germany, Japan, uh, Mexico, Canada, yeah.

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Are some of the big ones where they can get enough traction.

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India, uh, all have pretty big international associations where they have also, similar to the way it runs in Colorado, for example, they also do it.

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In those countries.

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And are you doing the same thing at the district level, say the pitch competition, the case study kind of, um, analyses, if you will, and then I guess they're judged by somebody.

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Yes.

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They're judged by either a lot of time, like parent volunteers, but also business people.

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Sure.

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So yeah, there's, there's kind of a, a lot of different forms of competition.

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So there's the, there's the official DECA competition.

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So you go to your district competition, which qualifies you for the state, which qualifies you for the international competition.

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Okay.

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So those are the three steps up.

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And then in Colorado specifically, and in a couple other states, there are these invitationals, which are kind of practice, almost like club team.

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Right.

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And they're a lot, they're a lot more low stakes, a lot more fun.

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But like anyone can sign up for'em, but you have to pay for'em.

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And it's like, does your, does your school, so does Rocky Mountain High School want to go to.

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X, Y, Z.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Invitational.

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And it's more optional.

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Yeah.

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So like everyone has to go to the district competition, and then if you qualify from districts, everyone has to go to state.

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And if you qualify for state, everyone has to go to internationals.

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Like that's like kind of like the, everyone does that.

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Yeah.

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And then the internationals is more like, oh, do we want to go for the weekend all the way down to Denver to go due to that one?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Is international still upcoming?

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It was a state conference that just happened.

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Kinda, yeah.

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So state just happened.

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We had the biggest state competition ever, actually.

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Okay.

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It was, that was so much work for at least me and my team.

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Okay.

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And then internationals will be in May, it'll be the third week of May in the us Yeah.

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It'll be in Orlando, Florida.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Orlando's good at hosting large groups.

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And how many people will take part in the internationals?

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23,000 plus.

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Wow.

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It's one of the larger high school competitions, like all students.

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And then there's other supporting people, or that's all the people.

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So that's, that's all.

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Competitors.

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Okay.

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So then, so that's all students?

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That's all students, yeah.

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And then that's not even counting the, there's 10,000 other people, the, the judges doing stuff.

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People behind the scenes, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A hundred thousand other people.

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Probably.

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Probably, yeah.

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Interesting.

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If it was like a Lego competition, it would be, uh, you maybe more fun to watch, who knows?

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But depends on if you like business a lot or not.

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Yeah.

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Um, wow.

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That's what a big, uh, and how about at the state level in Colorado here?

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How many people it done that?

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So we have 9,000 members really across the state.

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And does everybody make it to state?

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So not everyone makes it to state.

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Yeah.

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So everyone gets to compete at districts.

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Yeah.

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And actually in some districts, so we have 13 districts around the state at some really big districts.

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So Cherry Creek has.

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500 members in their chapter.

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Okay.

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Like, it's massive.

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And that's just con, that's just in making up juniors and seniors.

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They only let juniors and seniors.

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Wow.

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And that's 500 members.

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Oh.

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So they get to send more than two kids to state, right.

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Or whatever.

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Right.

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So they do a pre districts.

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Mm.

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So you have to qualify from there.

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So, so you have to, they decide who goes to districts and then they send from districts to qualify to state.

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So they have four different ways that they get to go.

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Yeah.

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So we had almost 2,750 people at our state competition participants.

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Yeah.

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Oh wow.

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Colorado is the ninth.

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Is the ninth largest.

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It's in the top 10 of association size.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we're a very sizable state.

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And then how many people get to go to international outta that 2,750 at State?

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I mean, it depends.

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Uh, I didn't tell you to gather your statistics side of time.

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Um, it kind of depends.

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So.

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Most events send six people in Colorado.

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Oh, wow.

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And I think there's 30 something 40 around 40 events.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And how do they tier them?

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Are there, it depends on part technology, this, or different industries or, so there's like different, so they do it based on like cluster.

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So there's marketing, entrepreneurship, finance is sports, no sports on its own marketing, finance, entrepreneurship.

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I, I should be able to name all these.

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That's all right.

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So there's several different, there's, there's several different clusters.

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And then depending on the amount of people that participate in each individual event, get to go.

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So no one does accounting, right?

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So if you wanna get to internationally, you go accounting track, you might, no one does the accounting events.

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So they send five people and usually there's like.

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Different stages at the state competition.

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So there's like a, there's like initial and then there's a final and you have to, you have to qualify through, get through the qualifiers almost to, to the final, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of like tiered.

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There's no final, you just, you do your one thing, the final, and then you know it automatically if you make it to international, because no one does accounting well.

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But the most popular one is like apparel.

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Everyone wants to do apparel marketing.

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Okay.

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'cause like, that's something really interesting.

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Yeah, for sure.

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You get to talk about clothing and like, doing very every day stuff.

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Maybe even bring some fabric and Right.

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That's a lot more fun.

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So that one has, like, there, I, I don't know exactly how many, but judging off of the 300 people that were in my event, I'm gonna guess over 500 people in the state and that one event.

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Oh wow.

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So that's a lot more people.

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A lot.

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Totally.

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More ways that you have to go around.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, describe like.

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Uh, like is it, is it the pitches and the case studies and, and it's just kind of, is it different design kind of things?

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And is that of curricula that's kind of across the whole spectrum or do different chapters and things kind of design, like, let's do this.

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Yeah.

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So there's like a DECA curriculum Okay.

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That DECA gives out.

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Yep.

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At the national level.

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And not everyone does that.

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It kind of depends.

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And then you're learning stuff that's applicable in your class.

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So the whole idea is, okay, so you're learning.

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Marketing concepts Yep.

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In your classroom.

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So I'm, I'm in marketing 1 0 1 right now.

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Okay.

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For example, right.

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I'm in Marketing 1 0 1, I'm learning the, the four Ps, right?

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Price, price, place, promotion, and product.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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And I sometimes people define it differently.

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Sometimes there's five.

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So, so those are, those are the deck of four Ps.

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Right?

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Right.

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Those are the things that you need to know for Deca.

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Oh, right.

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Cool.

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And I can learn that in my marketing class, and then I can see that on my marketing role play, and I can say, oh, wow, I learned this in class.

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Let me, let me talk about this.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So like, my, my role play is gonna ask me to come up with a promotional campaign.

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How do I talk about the four P's that I learned about in class?

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And apply that to, to this?

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Yes.

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In this role play.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So I'm asked to make a promotional campaign for this ice cream parlor.

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Right.

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'cause I'm the head of marketing.

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Sure.

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For example.

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And then I have 10 minutes to come up with that.

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So, so it's designed to work in tandem, and then how do I do that better than the other people?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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So how am I a little bit more creative?

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Or do you're a little more insightful about your marketplace, right?

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Your customer demographic, all those things that I can come up with.

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And probably gathering information on your customers and things like that becomes part of Well, you're, you're kind of just making that up as you go.

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Gotcha, gotcha.

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But, uh, you're storytelling a bit, right?

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You're making assumptions, but they're valid, you know, grounded in some reality.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So like, if, if it says like, okay, you're head of marketing for this ice cream place and it's in a mid-size city and you want to target like teenagers, right?

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Okay.

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So I have to come up with this promotional plan.

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I come up with a promotional plan.

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I talk, I talk about my four Ps, and then I come up with my target market and I do all, I got the best plan.

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It's, uh, ice cream promotions with teenager produced music in the park.

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Perfect.

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Right.

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And I'm your judge and I like that a lot.

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Boom.

00:11:46.346 --> 00:11:52.135
I give you, you know, a 90 plus on your role play and you do really well in your exam that you have to take beforehand.

00:11:52.140 --> 00:11:52.556
Yeah, yeah.

00:11:52.586 --> 00:11:55.046
You win and then you get to go on a state and then you do that again.

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You go on internationals, you do that again.

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King of the world, like that's cool.

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Cool.

00:11:58.525 --> 00:12:00.926
So it's like both subjective and objective based on, right?

00:12:00.956 --> 00:12:01.015
Yeah.

00:12:01.015 --> 00:12:03.655
So not probably just your plan.

00:12:04.150 --> 00:12:07.961
But also your pitch, your charisma, your connection to the judges.

00:12:08.081 --> 00:12:09.640
How many judges are typical?

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Um, one to two.

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Okay.

00:12:12.160 --> 00:12:13.270
You can have up to three.

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Okay.

00:12:13.900 --> 00:12:14.140
Okay.

00:12:14.140 --> 00:12:14.860
But it's like one to two.

00:12:14.890 --> 00:12:16.301
So it could just be one decider.

00:12:16.510 --> 00:12:16.750
Yeah.

00:12:16.990 --> 00:12:18.370
Their nephew automatically wins.

00:12:19.245 --> 00:12:27.221
That's, it's actually happened before that you get someone that you're related to or, you know, and there's, there's issues with that, but, right.

00:12:27.250 --> 00:12:29.890
Maybe invite a second judge just to validate a little bit.

00:12:30.221 --> 00:12:37.571
I, I like in a finals, so if you, if you have a second role play where they kind of use that to determine, like amongst finalists.

00:12:37.571 --> 00:12:37.630
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They, they usually have two judges.

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And were you too busy organizing this year to participate or did you also enter into the competition?

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So I did participate this year.

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Okay.

00:12:48.160 --> 00:12:50.831
So, uh, I participated in entrepreneurship.

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Okay.

00:12:51.370 --> 00:12:52.630
Uh, which was my role play.

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And then I did a pitch, which was international business plan.

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Okay.

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I did not do well in international business plan this year.

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There are.

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Like a lot of that one's really competitive position.

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Yeah.

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So, so that one's like the Cherry Creeks valor's, uh, really good, good, good programs of the world.

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Okay.

00:13:09.625 --> 00:13:11.365
And they spend a lot of time on that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Fortunately I did not do very well this year, but uh, I came in first place.

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You got the state?

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Yeah.

00:13:17.395 --> 00:13:19.316
Well, everyone goes to state for the written actually.

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Okay.

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You automatically qualify for the written because there's not enough that do writtens.

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Okay.

00:13:24.326 --> 00:13:28.495
So you automatically qualify to state, there's no preliminary, but for districts you have to qualify.

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So I came first in districts for entrepreneurship.

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Okay.

00:13:30.596 --> 00:13:30.865
All right.

00:13:30.926 --> 00:13:33.505
I came first in the state for entrepreneurship.

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Okay.

00:13:34.586 --> 00:13:38.155
So I was state champion for entrepreneurship and now I'm going to internationals.

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Oh.

00:13:38.515 --> 00:13:41.395
Well, I thought you said you didn't do that well for International Business plan.

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Oh, so you did both?

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Yeah, you can do both simultaneously.

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Oh, I see.

00:13:44.936 --> 00:13:45.806
So sorry.

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I was in addition to running the state conference, so.

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Gotcha.

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So you went to, you're going to international in the entrepreneurship side?

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I am.

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And tell me about like.

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Your pitch or your case study or what you were, what?

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And is it the same?

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Will you go to international with the same effective plan with some polish?

00:14:04.645 --> 00:14:08.365
So, uh, a little bit going a little bit deeper into like how it works.

00:14:08.515 --> 00:14:08.576
Yeah.

00:14:09.206 --> 00:14:15.475
You, you get, you show up to your call time, you have a little time, and it says, okay, Edward needs to show up at eight 50.

00:14:15.836 --> 00:14:21.235
So I show up at eight 50, I sit down and then there's like someone waiting for me, and then we all wait for everyone to show up.

00:14:21.446 --> 00:14:21.775
Okay.

00:14:22.076 --> 00:14:26.755
And at the same time, someone else is going like, giving their pitch.

00:14:26.875 --> 00:14:26.966
Yep.

00:14:27.956 --> 00:14:31.196
And then we get taken to a room, and then they tell us to wait.

00:14:31.676 --> 00:14:31.706
Okay.

00:14:31.706 --> 00:14:37.076
And in front of us is our, is our like plan that we have to come up with.

00:14:37.076 --> 00:14:42.056
So it, it gives us our summary, like, and our challenge that we have to solve.

00:14:42.296 --> 00:14:42.655
Oh.

00:14:43.015 --> 00:14:45.625
And we have, and then they're like, okay, wait, don't flip it over yet.

00:14:45.686 --> 00:14:45.716
Oh.

00:14:45.716 --> 00:14:47.096
Like this is, this is the thing.

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Like, don't flip it over.

00:14:48.385 --> 00:14:49.885
So they wait, they're like 3, 2, 1.

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You get 10 minutes.

00:14:51.701 --> 00:14:54.071
So you flip it over, then you have 10 minutes to read it over.

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So then I read it over and it's like, okay, you are to assume the role of CEO of X company, your Jo Wow.

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Your, your goal is to, you know, increase sales by 10%.

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How do you do that?

00:15:05.230 --> 00:15:09.701
And then it's like, and then it gives, gives me, and then it gives me, like, it gives me like four objectives Yep.

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That I have to hit at the same time.

00:15:12.490 --> 00:15:16.691
And then I have 10 minutes and one sheet of paper to draw everything up.

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Like, you know, do I wanna draw my graphs?

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Do I wanna draw a marketing plan?

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Do I wanna draw an advertisement?

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Do I wanna draw a T-shirt and pretend like that's my product?

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Whatever I wanna do, I have 10 minutes to do that.

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Okay.

00:15:26.441 --> 00:15:27.461
And they say 10 time's up.

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Drop your paper, drop your pencils.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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Collect your notes.

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And everybody's got the same question every, everyone's in different events.

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Okay.

00:15:34.331 --> 00:15:35.350
And then they take us back.

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You find your judge.

00:15:36.461 --> 00:15:39.461
So I find ENT, which is the shorthand for my event.

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I shake my hand, not judge him.

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Hi, I'm Edward Reinhardt, I'm the CEO and I'm meeting with my CFO, but I've never met this person before, but I'm supposed to as like pretend.

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Yep.

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Here's what we're gonna do.

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This is my CFO.

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And be like, I'm really excited to speak with you.

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My CFO wink wink on this opportunity.

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So this is how we're gonna increase sales by 10%.

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And I have 10 minutes to explain that.

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And then I show her my notes.

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This is how we're gonna do it.

00:16:04.721 --> 00:16:04.811
Yep.

00:16:05.081 --> 00:16:05.890
And then.

00:16:06.610 --> 00:16:08.186
And then someone goes on the, did they get to ask you some questions?

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Do you have to defend?

00:16:09.071 --> 00:16:11.620
They have to ask me two predetermined questions.

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Okay.

00:16:12.041 --> 00:16:16.390
They ask me my two questions, and then some judge comes on the loudspeaker says, you have one minute remaining.

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So then I'm like, oh, crap, I have to hurry up.

00:16:18.910 --> 00:16:23.260
And then I finish it up, shake their hand, walk out, and then that's it.

00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:23.951
That's the whole thing.

00:16:23.951 --> 00:16:24.461
Wow.

00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:30.505
And I'm sorry, but I'm kind of imagining like a diving judge where you're like, okay, did they execute the dive?

00:16:30.505 --> 00:16:30.941
No, that's the whole thing.

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How hard was it?

00:16:31.811 --> 00:16:32.890
You know, this kind of thing.

00:16:32.890 --> 00:16:35.831
And they're, the judges are like, no.

00:16:35.831 --> 00:16:37.480
Yeah, because they're talking to how many kids?

00:16:38.291 --> 00:16:42.346
20 over the day, each person, each person comes, all comes up with something else huddle.

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And something boils out of there.

00:16:43.870 --> 00:16:43.961
Right?

00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:44.410
Yeah.

00:16:44.650 --> 00:16:47.350
And then, and then they decide, okay, who's making it to tomorrow?

00:16:47.410 --> 00:16:47.740
Yeah.

00:16:47.860 --> 00:16:49.270
And then tomorrow.

00:16:49.301 --> 00:16:49.541
Okay.

00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:51.610
Everyone sees the same judge.

00:16:51.941 --> 00:16:52.270
Oh, okay.

00:16:52.841 --> 00:16:54.551
So, so we're in like different sections.

00:16:54.551 --> 00:16:55.571
So it's kind of like a.

00:16:56.770 --> 00:16:58.061
Kinda like bracket style.

00:16:58.120 --> 00:16:58.510
Yeah.

00:16:58.515 --> 00:16:58.716
Yeah.

00:16:58.841 --> 00:17:01.270
So, so everyone, everyone tries to make it out of their bracket.

00:17:01.275 --> 00:17:01.355
Yeah.

00:17:01.421 --> 00:17:01.600
Yeah.

00:17:01.721 --> 00:17:02.831
More like heat style, right?

00:17:03.341 --> 00:17:05.740
Kinda like heat than bracket because you're not facing just one person.

00:17:05.746 --> 00:17:06.310
I guess more like round robin.

00:17:06.490 --> 00:17:07.451
Round robin heat.

00:17:07.455 --> 00:17:07.635
Yeah.

00:17:07.641 --> 00:17:07.871
Yeah.

00:17:07.871 --> 00:17:09.431
So then everyone tries to make it out their heat.

00:17:09.611 --> 00:17:09.730
Yep.

00:17:09.760 --> 00:17:14.711
To then face one all, all each other against the same judge.

00:17:14.770 --> 00:17:15.010
Okay.

00:17:15.010 --> 00:17:17.351
And then the judge is like, okay, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

00:17:17.441 --> 00:17:17.921
Interesting.

00:17:17.980 --> 00:17:18.520
And then that's it.

00:17:18.611 --> 00:17:21.101
And is that judge familiar with these other kids already?

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No.

00:17:21.161 --> 00:17:21.881
Or is it a fresh judge?

00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:22.510
Fresh judge.

00:17:22.661 --> 00:17:22.990
Okay.

00:17:22.990 --> 00:17:23.500
That's good.

00:17:23.560 --> 00:17:24.520
Brand new, fresh judge.

00:17:24.520 --> 00:17:25.181
That's pretty cool.

00:17:25.330 --> 00:17:35.050
And then in addition to the case studies, everyone takes a test and the test accounts for a smaller portion of the score, but it can be the determining factor.

00:17:35.260 --> 00:17:35.500
Sure.

00:17:35.560 --> 00:17:36.401
In some cases.

00:17:36.701 --> 00:17:37.661
So I.

00:17:38.365 --> 00:17:39.746
Recently at the state conference?

00:17:39.746 --> 00:17:39.955
Yep.

00:17:40.135 --> 00:17:41.756
I did not have the highest role play score.

00:17:41.846 --> 00:17:43.346
I actually had the third highest role play score.

00:17:43.346 --> 00:17:43.586
Oh.

00:17:43.885 --> 00:17:45.476
But I had the highest test score.

00:17:45.596 --> 00:17:46.076
Okay.

00:17:46.316 --> 00:17:47.516
So I ended up winning.

00:17:47.605 --> 00:17:48.056
Yeah.

00:17:48.056 --> 00:17:48.115
Yeah.

00:17:48.115 --> 00:17:48.536
Congratulations.

00:17:48.536 --> 00:17:49.046
Just by that.

00:17:49.050 --> 00:17:49.191
Congratulations.

00:17:49.221 --> 00:17:50.111
That thin, thin margin.

00:17:50.111 --> 00:17:52.226
And did number two get to go to international too?

00:17:52.316 --> 00:17:53.455
So top six.

00:17:53.546 --> 00:17:53.965
Okay.

00:17:53.971 --> 00:17:55.675
So, so you'll have to face'em again?

00:17:55.675 --> 00:17:58.076
Potentially kind of, uh, or in the heat form.

00:17:58.076 --> 00:18:00.445
They'll, so they, so it's, it's region protected.

00:18:00.776 --> 00:18:01.105
Oh.

00:18:01.165 --> 00:18:03.476
So I won't see them in my heat.

00:18:03.625 --> 00:18:03.895
Yeah.

00:18:03.986 --> 00:18:06.266
Again, um, unless you make it to the final finals.

00:18:06.385 --> 00:18:07.135
Unless we all make to the finals.

00:18:07.135 --> 00:18:07.465
Right, right.

00:18:07.465 --> 00:18:10.346
Those Cherry Creek kids are probably there too, which is when I'll see them again.

00:18:10.556 --> 00:18:10.736
Yeah.

00:18:10.796 --> 00:18:11.875
Assuming I even make it there.

00:18:11.875 --> 00:18:13.226
So I've been once before.

00:18:13.375 --> 00:18:13.645
Okay.

00:18:13.645 --> 00:18:14.965
I did not make it to the finals.

00:18:14.965 --> 00:18:17.036
I was immediately eliminated.

00:18:17.336 --> 00:18:17.756
Right.

00:18:17.816 --> 00:18:18.506
Right then and there.

00:18:18.506 --> 00:18:20.996
So I made it to internationals and then just cut.

00:18:20.996 --> 00:18:22.280
But that was like your freshman year or something?

00:18:22.280 --> 00:18:23.006
That was my freshman year.

00:18:23.006 --> 00:18:23.605
That's what I thought.

00:18:23.605 --> 00:18:23.905
Yeah.

00:18:24.506 --> 00:18:27.655
Um, and was that in entrepreneurship as well?

00:18:27.655 --> 00:18:30.776
Or what were you, what did you make international in then?

00:18:30.865 --> 00:18:35.546
So there's a special event, special type of event called principles.

00:18:35.996 --> 00:18:36.355
Okay.

00:18:36.566 --> 00:18:38.786
For first year DECA members.

00:18:39.205 --> 00:18:39.655
Okay.

00:18:40.076 --> 00:18:40.286
Yeah.

00:18:40.286 --> 00:18:42.865
So principles of marketing, kind of foundations level stuff.

00:18:43.375 --> 00:18:43.435
Yeah.

00:18:43.435 --> 00:18:47.665
Marketing, management, finance and entrepreneurship.

00:18:47.726 --> 00:18:47.965
Yep.

00:18:48.355 --> 00:18:53.695
And I did the management one and I made it, I was state champion my freshman year.

00:18:54.236 --> 00:18:56.846
Uh, and then I made it all the way there.

00:18:57.205 --> 00:18:59.246
But my very first round got cut.

00:18:59.516 --> 00:18:59.965
Okay.

00:18:59.965 --> 00:19:00.776
Didn't make it outta heat.

00:19:00.806 --> 00:19:01.976
Did not make it outta my heat.

00:19:01.976 --> 00:19:02.246
Yep.

00:19:02.365 --> 00:19:03.566
But, you know, it's okay.

00:19:03.895 --> 00:19:06.895
Were you competing against kids that were sophomores, juniors, seniors.

00:19:07.046 --> 00:19:08.756
So any or just freshmen in your case?

00:19:08.756 --> 00:19:08.757
Case?

00:19:08.846 --> 00:19:11.276
Anyone who could, anyone who's a first year I a member?

00:19:11.276 --> 00:19:11.635
Could be.

00:19:11.665 --> 00:19:15.536
Oh, so like a senior that just signed up could also be competing against a freshman.

00:19:15.596 --> 00:19:15.986
Yes.

00:19:16.046 --> 00:19:16.556
Interesting.

00:19:16.645 --> 00:19:16.915
Yeah.

00:19:17.365 --> 00:19:18.536
But as long as they're fresh.

00:19:18.536 --> 00:19:18.596
Yeah.

00:19:19.435 --> 00:19:19.500
They had to be freshies.

00:19:19.766 --> 00:19:19.976
Yeah.

00:19:20.185 --> 00:19:21.625
Or fresh to the program.

00:19:21.655 --> 00:19:22.346
Brand new to Deca.

00:19:22.435 --> 00:19:22.556
Yeah.

00:19:22.586 --> 00:19:26.096
And is there any place to go within Deca?

00:19:26.125 --> 00:19:29.786
Like you're graduating, I assume you're gonna go to college somewhere or something.

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Is there an extension of that at the next.

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It's phase.

00:19:33.326 --> 00:19:33.566
Yeah.

00:19:33.566 --> 00:19:34.885
So there is collegiate deca.

00:19:35.006 --> 00:19:35.365
Okay.

00:19:35.365 --> 00:19:37.346
I It's lame comparatively.

00:19:37.915 --> 00:19:39.280
I mean, I like to don't have to say it.

00:19:39.320 --> 00:19:40.240
I, ill say it.

00:19:40.256 --> 00:19:40.885
I think so.

00:19:41.635 --> 00:19:46.346
I'm more prefer I, I'm preferential to high school Deca'cause that's what I've done my whole life.

00:19:46.375 --> 00:19:46.705
Fair.

00:19:46.855 --> 00:19:48.655
Um, it's smaller.

00:19:49.016 --> 00:19:49.256
Yeah.

00:19:49.855 --> 00:19:52.135
There, but it, it's more specific.

00:19:52.586 --> 00:19:52.766
Right.

00:19:52.766 --> 00:19:57.655
So I don't know if you're familiar with like college case study competitions?

00:19:58.165 --> 00:19:59.185
Not particularly.

00:19:59.185 --> 00:20:04.705
But I've met, you know, people within the CSU faculty at different levels and the entrepreneurship and business programs.

00:20:04.705 --> 00:20:07.885
And there's a lot of different kind of opportunities.

00:20:08.215 --> 00:20:08.365
Right.

00:20:08.365 --> 00:20:10.016
And the college kind of wants to curate some of it.

00:20:10.016 --> 00:20:10.526
I assume.

00:20:10.526 --> 00:20:20.726
It's, it's, it's a lot more akin to a collegiate case study competition where it, it's more geared towards like maybe a consulting interview where they'll.

00:20:21.145 --> 00:20:25.526
Give you a lot more data in the moment where you're like, okay, what's turnover ratio?

00:20:25.526 --> 00:20:27.596
Not quite the 10 minute exercise drill.

00:20:27.596 --> 00:20:30.026
It's because they're funneling so many people mm-hmm.

00:20:30.385 --> 00:20:32.036
Through in your case, right?

00:20:32.036 --> 00:20:32.306
Yeah.

00:20:32.546 --> 00:20:35.215
Like, it's almost like a battle royale.

00:20:35.336 --> 00:20:38.665
Well, and at the end of the day it's, it's also like we're high schoolers, right?

00:20:38.665 --> 00:20:39.026
Fair.

00:20:39.086 --> 00:20:41.306
So like, what can you really be asking of us?

00:20:41.365 --> 00:20:49.165
Like, I mean, you seem about as smart as most people I talk to in this room, so, you know, but like, you're not gonna be asking a high schooler about like debt ratios.

00:20:49.195 --> 00:20:49.526
Yes.

00:20:49.615 --> 00:20:50.605
You haven't got that deep yet.

00:20:50.605 --> 00:20:50.816
Yeah.

00:20:50.816 --> 00:20:54.205
Like you have, you have not learned that in any of your finance classes.

00:20:54.536 --> 00:20:54.625
Fair.

00:20:54.625 --> 00:20:58.885
But like, that's what you're gonna be asking in collegiate, DECA, it's gonna be a bit more.

00:20:59.441 --> 00:21:04.030
Specialized before we like jump back to learn how you got so smart.

00:21:04.030 --> 00:21:09.280
By this time, let's talk about what's next for you a little bit.

00:21:09.280 --> 00:21:11.171
Like, uh, do you have a college picked out?

00:21:11.171 --> 00:21:15.671
Have you been accepted to some Ivy League Choice financial school or something like that?

00:21:15.671 --> 00:21:17.651
Um, so I'm actually wearing it right now.

00:21:18.131 --> 00:21:18.911
Oh, that's Villanova.

00:21:18.911 --> 00:21:19.961
Uh, Virginia.

00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:20.951
Virginia, yes.

00:21:20.951 --> 00:21:21.881
The University of Virginia.

00:21:22.871 --> 00:21:23.381
Cavaliers.

00:21:23.381 --> 00:21:24.010
Cavaliers.

00:21:24.010 --> 00:21:24.550
Yes.

00:21:24.655 --> 00:21:27.431
Wahoo wa Wahoo wa That's their what?

00:21:27.435 --> 00:21:28.165
They tight song's.

00:21:28.165 --> 00:21:28.205
What?

00:21:28.211 --> 00:21:28.480
Yeah.

00:21:28.540 --> 00:21:28.901
Okay.

00:21:29.290 --> 00:21:36.550
Um, that's, is that a family history or anything like that or just, uh, they gave you a nice fat scholarship, let you in.

00:21:36.641 --> 00:21:37.780
Um, yeah.

00:21:37.780 --> 00:21:39.191
Pretty decent family history.

00:21:39.191 --> 00:21:42.566
And my mom went, my dad went, my aunt went, oh wow.

00:21:42.790 --> 00:21:44.590
My uncle got his MBA.

00:21:45.986 --> 00:21:49.465
I think my other uncle went there for something great uncle went.

00:21:49.556 --> 00:21:50.036
Okay.

00:21:50.365 --> 00:21:52.286
Um, is there a Reinhardt Hall or anything?

00:21:52.375 --> 00:21:53.726
No, we don't have names on buildings.

00:21:53.816 --> 00:21:54.236
All right.

00:21:54.236 --> 00:21:54.415
Yeah.

00:21:54.415 --> 00:21:55.286
Not that kind of family.

00:21:55.286 --> 00:21:56.306
Quite, no, no.

00:21:56.365 --> 00:21:56.846
All right.

00:21:56.846 --> 00:21:59.635
Uh, but just excited about it sounds like I loved, loved the school.

00:21:59.635 --> 00:22:00.625
Very excited.

00:22:00.715 --> 00:22:02.276
Um, loved it forever.

00:22:02.365 --> 00:22:02.605
Yeah.

00:22:02.756 --> 00:22:12.925
Growing up watching UVA basketball 2019 was about, were you kind of a shoo in because of all that family history, or did they have to use like, minority points to get a lot of white guy in there?

00:22:12.925 --> 00:22:15.026
I think, well, they actually, they actually got rid of that.

00:22:15.236 --> 00:22:15.955
Oh yeah, that's right.

00:22:16.105 --> 00:22:16.195
Yes.

00:22:16.195 --> 00:22:17.965
There's no more, no more legacy stuff.

00:22:17.996 --> 00:22:18.326
Yeah.

00:22:18.596 --> 00:22:27.836
Um, you Virginia's one of the few states, uh, one of five, including Colorado actually, to outlaw legacy admission.

00:22:27.925 --> 00:22:28.465
Oh, is that right?

00:22:28.586 --> 00:22:28.885
Yeah.

00:22:28.976 --> 00:22:30.445
Oh, your school.

00:22:30.476 --> 00:22:33.536
I'm, I just, you know, having gone through the whole process.

00:22:33.536 --> 00:22:33.625
Right.

00:22:33.625 --> 00:22:35.155
So you were a little bit scared you might not get in.

00:22:35.155 --> 00:22:36.236
I've learned, I've learned about this stuff.

00:22:36.715 --> 00:22:44.215
They actually sent my parents, the, the alumni association sent my parents just flies a letter a week before I was supposed to get my.

00:22:44.770 --> 00:22:46.931
My notice, um, if I got in or not.

00:22:47.080 --> 00:22:54.431
They sent a letter and they're like, Hey, by the way, we have no, just so you know, like, like we don't have any, we can't control anything.

00:22:54.431 --> 00:22:54.881
Like, yeah.

00:22:54.911 --> 00:22:55.361
Sorry.

00:22:55.361 --> 00:22:56.861
If doesn't, doesn't matter how much you donate, sorry.

00:22:56.861 --> 00:22:58.691
If he doesn't get in, like donate a bunch.

00:22:59.141 --> 00:22:59.861
But it doesn't, but continue.

00:23:00.070 --> 00:23:01.451
Give us money if he doesn't get in.

00:23:01.451 --> 00:23:01.750
Right.

00:23:01.750 --> 00:23:05.290
He's, but like when I saw the letter, I was like, whoa, are they telling him that I didn't get in?

00:23:06.010 --> 00:23:07.901
I'm sure it was terrifying.

00:23:07.931 --> 00:23:11.141
'cause it was like just one week before and I was like, did I not get in?

00:23:11.141 --> 00:23:13.631
Like, why are they, why are they sending a letter right now?

00:23:13.631 --> 00:23:17.590
Before I expected it, this was strange, but fortunately That's hilarious.

00:23:17.621 --> 00:23:18.730
I got in and when was that?

00:23:19.090 --> 00:23:20.260
Uh, early December.

00:23:20.290 --> 00:23:20.590
Okay.

00:23:20.621 --> 00:23:21.280
mid-December.

00:23:21.820 --> 00:23:29.471
So I guess it came in like December 17th was when we got the, December 7th was when we got the letter and I found out on the 13th.

00:23:29.560 --> 00:23:29.830
Okay.

00:23:29.836 --> 00:23:30.941
Was, was when I got in.

00:23:30.941 --> 00:23:31.030
Cool.

00:23:31.151 --> 00:23:31.840
Well, congrats.

00:23:31.871 --> 00:23:32.201
Thank you.

00:23:32.201 --> 00:23:32.590
I appreciate it.

00:23:32.590 --> 00:23:34.211
Uh, when will you be moving out that way?

00:23:35.621 --> 00:23:38.951
Mid October or Midgut or So orientations like July.

00:23:38.980 --> 00:23:39.820
Oh, wow.

00:23:39.881 --> 00:23:43.901
And then, uh, move in days like August something.

00:23:43.961 --> 00:23:44.381
Okay.

00:23:44.381 --> 00:23:45.101
If I'm not mistaken.

00:23:45.161 --> 00:23:45.520
Yeah.

00:23:45.520 --> 00:23:45.580
Yeah.

00:23:46.270 --> 00:23:51.236
Do you have family out that way too, or your folks, do they grow up in that region and then Colorado?

00:23:51.236 --> 00:23:52.270
So my dad's from Baltimore.

00:23:52.361 --> 00:23:52.721
Okay.

00:23:52.901 --> 00:23:54.641
And then my mom's from Louisiana.

00:23:54.911 --> 00:23:55.181
Oh.

00:23:55.300 --> 00:24:01.961
Uh, but I have two extended family members, or I guess an aunt and another aunt.

00:24:02.080 --> 00:24:02.381
Okay.

00:24:02.381 --> 00:24:04.871
And then their families, they're in Richmond, Virginia.

00:24:04.931 --> 00:24:05.171
Yeah.

00:24:05.260 --> 00:24:07.721
So this is, so the UVA's in Charlottesville.

00:24:08.171 --> 00:24:08.800
Okay.

00:24:08.800 --> 00:24:09.851
And that's in Richmond.

00:24:09.851 --> 00:24:11.500
I don't know if you're familiar with Not really.

00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:12.730
Like take me the map a little bit.

00:24:12.730 --> 00:24:14.050
So, so they're just an hour away.

00:24:14.786 --> 00:24:15.326
Oh, sure.

00:24:15.385 --> 00:24:18.026
So, uh, yeah, I think it's Easter.

00:24:18.026 --> 00:24:18.028
That's nice.

00:24:18.032 --> 00:24:18.506
That's perfect.

00:24:18.506 --> 00:24:19.135
It's just an hour.

00:24:19.135 --> 00:24:20.921
That way they won't just be showing up on you.

00:24:20.921 --> 00:24:21.121
Right.

00:24:21.661 --> 00:24:23.846
But you can go for a weekend and hang out.

00:24:23.846 --> 00:24:24.361
Have some nice, yeah.

00:24:24.361 --> 00:24:26.576
If I really need to get a lag dinner, you know, that kind of thing.

00:24:26.846 --> 00:24:29.455
Oh, by the way, do you wanna open your, uh, your short gift here?

00:24:29.996 --> 00:24:30.056
Yeah.

00:24:30.056 --> 00:24:32.125
Normally it's like stimulus wine glasses.

00:24:32.336 --> 00:24:32.635
Oh.

00:24:32.695 --> 00:24:35.401
I'll get you some hot sauce before we leave here too, but, uh oh, thank you.

00:24:35.401 --> 00:24:35.881
I love hot sauce.

00:24:35.885 --> 00:24:35.996
Yeah.

00:24:35.996 --> 00:24:38.156
You've got, uh, that's of ping p pong balls.

00:24:38.161 --> 00:24:40.675
Yeah, ping pong balls and some loco think tank cups.

00:24:40.675 --> 00:24:42.625
I thought that would be like your beer pong starter kit.

00:24:42.776 --> 00:24:45.776
Kinda not for another three years.

00:24:47.215 --> 00:24:50.125
Well, you go to college officially.

00:24:50.185 --> 00:24:51.086
Officially then.

00:24:51.175 --> 00:24:53.215
Uh, well, and a and then a little travel kit.

00:24:53.246 --> 00:24:53.605
Oh, nice.

00:24:53.605 --> 00:24:54.205
I figured very much.

00:24:54.205 --> 00:24:56.155
You seem like you're gonna travel a lot in your world.

00:24:56.500 --> 00:24:57.340
Probably will be.

00:24:57.340 --> 00:24:57.730
Yeah.

00:24:57.736 --> 00:24:57.895
Yeah.

00:24:57.901 --> 00:25:11.921
So, uh, um, I guess, uh, if there were, you know, two, three things that you were gonna say that you learned from your decade experience so far, um, what would be the, like, I know I've got in my past Yeah.

00:25:11.921 --> 00:25:15.941
In business, just a few like pivotal things where it just really changed how I thought of that.

00:25:16.211 --> 00:25:17.770
No, that's a really good question.

00:25:17.921 --> 00:25:20.530
Um, and maybe it's just one.

00:25:20.770 --> 00:25:23.171
Don't, no, I, no, I, I can, I can come up with some stuff.

00:25:23.171 --> 00:25:23.441
All right.

00:25:23.951 --> 00:25:31.361
Um, number one I'd have to say is like, just the power of networking and connection.

00:25:31.361 --> 00:25:31.362
Mm.

00:25:31.451 --> 00:25:31.540
Mm-hmm.

00:25:31.871 --> 00:25:34.240
Um, deck is great for meeting people.

00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:42.310
It's such a massive club, especially, you probably know people all over the state and all over the world at this point, especially in, in Colorado.

00:25:42.431 --> 00:25:42.580
Yeah.

00:25:42.580 --> 00:25:46.121
You get to meet so many people, so many amazing people.

00:25:46.540 --> 00:25:48.941
You get to do such amazing things.

00:25:49.421 --> 00:25:51.401
Um, I always like to say.

00:25:52.346 --> 00:25:59.996
Um, like with everything, and I think this is true with everything in life, you get out what you put in.

00:26:00.326 --> 00:26:01.346
And that is so true.

00:26:01.346 --> 00:26:03.715
With Deca, it could just be a club.

00:26:03.986 --> 00:26:04.286
Yeah.

00:26:04.286 --> 00:26:09.355
Like you, you could, it literally could have a couple friendships be like, you just show up to the meeting, you learn a couple little things.

00:26:09.355 --> 00:26:13.346
You just go to some of the competitions, like you just do it to learn a couple things.

00:26:13.346 --> 00:26:14.576
Like, and that's great.

00:26:14.965 --> 00:26:17.965
Like I, like, that's literally what it could have been for me.

00:26:18.566 --> 00:26:22.286
But, um, and actually freshman year, that's what it was going to be.

00:26:22.705 --> 00:26:29.635
I used to like, so I used to think that the people on stage doing what I did this year, like as a state officer Yeah.

00:26:29.695 --> 00:26:31.586
Were the lamest, lamest people ever.

00:26:31.590 --> 00:26:33.330
Like, well, they are just kidding.

00:26:33.336 --> 00:26:34.076
Like, no, no.

00:26:34.076 --> 00:26:34.945
It's kind of true.

00:26:34.945 --> 00:26:36.026
It's true and not true.

00:26:36.040 --> 00:26:39.986
Like, like I used to think like drinking the Kool-Aid was the lamest thing ever.

00:26:40.016 --> 00:26:40.405
Yeah, yeah.

00:26:40.405 --> 00:26:40.766
Like.

00:26:41.756 --> 00:26:45.266
But as, as time went on, I was like, it's not cool.

00:26:45.266 --> 00:26:45.326
Huh?

00:26:45.326 --> 00:26:46.615
The teachers are encouraging this stuff, right?

00:26:46.615 --> 00:26:47.787
Because it's really good for us.

00:26:47.881 --> 00:26:48.776
It's good for you.

00:26:48.776 --> 00:26:49.165
Yeah.

00:26:49.165 --> 00:26:51.145
Like to, to put everything in, like go all in.

00:26:51.145 --> 00:26:51.536
Yeah.

00:26:51.536 --> 00:26:51.537
Yeah.

00:26:51.566 --> 00:26:52.046
Love it.

00:26:52.046 --> 00:26:52.556
Like dig it.

00:26:52.645 --> 00:26:53.215
Really go.

00:26:53.215 --> 00:26:56.246
If you're gonna be in the band, learn how to play that clarinet Exactly.

00:26:56.246 --> 00:26:57.175
To the best of your ability.

00:26:57.175 --> 00:26:57.746
Exactly.

00:26:57.746 --> 00:27:01.615
So I think Deca going, I kinda lost my message there.

00:27:01.736 --> 00:27:01.885
Yeah.

00:27:01.915 --> 00:27:02.635
Networking.

00:27:02.786 --> 00:27:02.905
Yeah.

00:27:02.905 --> 00:27:09.625
Meeting people, like going all out, expanding your horizons, expanding your horizons, I think was one of the best things that I learned from Deca.

00:27:09.986 --> 00:27:12.056
I've met so many amazing people.

00:27:12.056 --> 00:27:13.736
I've made so many great friends.

00:27:14.155 --> 00:27:18.836
I don't know if my ex team is ever gonna watch this episode, but if you are Yeah, they will.

00:27:19.016 --> 00:27:20.576
I, I'll, I'm gonna send this to them.

00:27:20.846 --> 00:27:22.286
I love them so much.

00:27:22.286 --> 00:27:23.846
They're some of my greatest friends of all time.

00:27:23.846 --> 00:27:24.175
That's cool.

00:27:24.205 --> 00:27:25.615
I've learned so much from them.

00:27:26.171 --> 00:27:30.040
They're amazing people like your team to put on the district event kind of thing.

00:27:30.040 --> 00:27:30.851
Is that what you're talking about here?

00:27:30.851 --> 00:27:31.810
That, uh, the state officers.

00:27:32.080 --> 00:27:32.201
Cool.

00:27:32.201 --> 00:27:34.480
So the former state officers, do you wanna give a shout out to anybody?

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:35.201
Shout out to Ramo.

00:27:35.651 --> 00:27:37.631
Shout out to Alan Kayden.

00:27:37.871 --> 00:27:39.881
Devin Charise Braxton.

00:27:39.941 --> 00:27:41.320
I, I have so many people I to talk to.

00:27:41.980 --> 00:27:43.750
Sophia Hadley.

00:27:44.111 --> 00:27:45.280
Uh, Abby.

00:27:45.340 --> 00:27:45.971
Abby.

00:27:46.300 --> 00:27:47.381
Uh, oh my God.

00:27:47.381 --> 00:27:48.010
We're at 10.

00:27:48.280 --> 00:27:49.871
I need a couple more tech.

00:27:50.171 --> 00:27:52.871
Uh, I'm sorry if I'm forgetting you.

00:27:52.986 --> 00:27:53.326
I'm sorry.

00:27:53.586 --> 00:27:58.931
You still loved Yeah, but meeting them and meeting so many other people, especially in my school.

00:27:58.990 --> 00:27:59.290
Yeah.

00:27:59.530 --> 00:28:02.560
I would not be where I am today if it weren't for Yeah, yeah.

00:28:03.221 --> 00:28:04.060
Those opportunities.

00:28:04.060 --> 00:28:04.211
Yeah.

00:28:04.211 --> 00:28:06.221
One of those, those kids' Dad might give you a job somewhere.

00:28:07.300 --> 00:28:07.510
Yeah.

00:28:07.510 --> 00:28:08.260
You just don't know.

00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:09.131
Who knows?

00:28:09.131 --> 00:28:09.461
Yep.

00:28:09.790 --> 00:28:14.080
Um, and so studying what at, uh, Virginia Cavaliers.

00:28:14.441 --> 00:28:16.931
Um, so that's kind of a complicated question.

00:28:16.990 --> 00:28:17.351
Okay.

00:28:17.471 --> 00:28:20.290
So right now I'm in the College of Arts and Sciences.

00:28:20.296 --> 00:28:20.405
Okay.

00:28:20.980 --> 00:28:25.000
Uh, and I th what I think I was technically admitted to.

00:28:25.556 --> 00:28:26.576
Economics.

00:28:26.635 --> 00:28:26.875
Okay.

00:28:26.875 --> 00:28:28.226
So I think I'll be an economics major.

00:28:28.316 --> 00:28:28.645
Alright.

00:28:29.066 --> 00:28:35.125
And I might stay there, but I ha I can apply to the business school next year.

00:28:35.185 --> 00:28:35.875
Oh, I see.

00:28:36.296 --> 00:28:38.036
So you can't just get right into the business school.

00:28:38.066 --> 00:28:38.276
Mm-hmm.

00:28:38.486 --> 00:28:38.846
No.

00:28:38.965 --> 00:28:42.205
So hopefully, well it's actually, it's actually commerce.

00:28:42.506 --> 00:28:43.375
Oh, interesting.

00:28:43.526 --> 00:28:43.586
Yeah.

00:28:43.675 --> 00:28:44.006
Oh yeah.

00:28:44.006 --> 00:28:45.326
'cause it's a commonwealth and stuff.

00:28:45.326 --> 00:28:47.520
They use those kind of old englishy terms and stuff.

00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:52.195
So I'll be, I'll be studying commerce with a specialization in quantitative finance.

00:28:52.256 --> 00:28:57.865
Is Virginia like thicker with Brits than other of the New England states?

00:28:57.925 --> 00:29:00.355
Uh, kind of just based on like.

00:29:00.955 --> 00:29:04.915
Who decided they were the big boss state in the early days and stuff.

00:29:05.215 --> 00:29:06.115
I mean, I guess so.

00:29:06.115 --> 00:29:09.506
It feels, my last name Bear is a, is a old English name.

00:29:09.715 --> 00:29:10.016
Okay.

00:29:10.016 --> 00:29:13.976
And there were bears in New York, like in 1715 or something like that.

00:29:14.395 --> 00:29:19.195
Uh, and we were very unsuccessful'cause there's still only like 50,000 of us in the whole country.

00:29:19.195 --> 00:29:22.645
You know, we had an early start, but we didn't, we're breeders very good apparently.

00:29:23.036 --> 00:29:31.405
Um, but I just, curiosity wise, I was just, I was watching a video the other night about where the Scandinavians settled in the US and different places.

00:29:31.405 --> 00:29:40.375
And I'm, I guess Virginia's probably a melting pot now'cause everybody gets sucked to the honey neck or Washington DC Yeah, you got, you got Nova, which is wild.

00:29:40.375 --> 00:29:41.875
You got Arlington and all that stuff.

00:29:41.875 --> 00:29:42.086
Right.

00:29:42.086 --> 00:29:42.776
All that too.

00:29:43.016 --> 00:29:45.145
But even just Washington DC is like a magnet.

00:29:45.266 --> 00:29:46.945
It's a melting pot of sorts.

00:29:46.945 --> 00:29:47.276
Right?

00:29:47.306 --> 00:29:47.486
Mm-hmm.

00:29:48.145 --> 00:29:50.066
Um, and how far away from DC are you then?

00:29:50.336 --> 00:29:53.576
Uh, I know the train ride is like three and a half hours.

00:29:53.635 --> 00:29:53.965
Okay.

00:29:54.115 --> 00:29:54.836
Which is really nice.

00:29:54.865 --> 00:29:56.965
So it's like Richmond is below.

00:29:57.715 --> 00:30:00.086
DC and then like C Charlotte over then Cville to the west.

00:30:00.115 --> 00:30:00.445
Yeah.

00:30:00.506 --> 00:30:00.806
Okay.

00:30:00.806 --> 00:30:01.046
Little go.

00:30:01.046 --> 00:30:01.346
Cool.

00:30:01.615 --> 00:30:03.865
So is it up on a river over there or something like that?

00:30:03.865 --> 00:30:06.236
Or where's, why is Charlottesville where it's at?

00:30:06.746 --> 00:30:09.026
Um, it's right by Monticello.

00:30:09.776 --> 00:30:10.165
Okay.

00:30:10.465 --> 00:30:13.346
Oh, so, so this is, so they say this is Thomas Jefferson's University.

00:30:13.346 --> 00:30:13.885
Gotcha.

00:30:14.036 --> 00:30:19.135
So he, he built, and that's kind of a complicated thing to say, right.

00:30:19.465 --> 00:30:23.786
He more or less instigated instated because he was basically broke himself most of his life.

00:30:24.221 --> 00:30:28.945
He, he developed, got rich people to make that he developed the university.

00:30:29.006 --> 00:30:29.635
Oh, interesting.

00:30:30.115 --> 00:30:30.415
Cool.

00:30:30.476 --> 00:30:33.296
And he created the idea Yeah.

00:30:33.296 --> 00:30:34.705
Of the, of the University of Virginia.

00:30:34.705 --> 00:30:34.976
Yeah.

00:30:34.976 --> 00:30:34.977
Yeah.

00:30:35.306 --> 00:30:37.826
He was gone before it got nearly as cool as it has become.

00:30:38.036 --> 00:30:38.155
Right.

00:30:38.996 --> 00:30:39.625
Presumably.

00:30:40.135 --> 00:30:41.066
Um, interesting.

00:30:41.185 --> 00:30:41.486
Okay.

00:30:41.546 --> 00:30:42.806
Well, Godspeed there.

00:30:42.806 --> 00:30:47.246
That seems like a, uh, a good path to pursue.

00:30:47.246 --> 00:30:50.096
And like any notions, are you.

00:30:51.236 --> 00:30:55.016
Like, have an emphasis in finance and business, or do you wanna be an entrepreneur?

00:30:55.016 --> 00:30:56.036
Do you wanna be a marketer?

00:30:56.215 --> 00:30:59.395
Um, I mean, it will kind of depend on a couple of things.

00:30:59.486 --> 00:31:01.826
Uh, I'm not usually it's early.

00:31:01.826 --> 00:31:03.445
I'm not usually a math guy.

00:31:03.476 --> 00:31:03.836
Okay.

00:31:04.076 --> 00:31:08.635
Um, so if I end up learning the, like learning how to do the math.

00:31:08.665 --> 00:31:09.296
Yeah.

00:31:09.296 --> 00:31:09.297
Yeah.

00:31:09.415 --> 00:31:14.756
Um, I'll do finance, but I have, I have to like the math Yeah.

00:31:14.846 --> 00:31:15.895
To be successful.

00:31:15.925 --> 00:31:16.165
Yeah.

00:31:16.286 --> 00:31:22.016
So, uh, if I learn, if I learn how to, like the math, I'll do finance Well and even deeper economics.

00:31:22.076 --> 00:31:22.346
Right.

00:31:22.346 --> 00:31:25.135
Or like economic theory or go, I'll go deep into economics.

00:31:25.135 --> 00:31:25.226
Yep.

00:31:25.496 --> 00:31:27.086
If I hate the math.

00:31:27.175 --> 00:31:27.445
Yeah.

00:31:27.746 --> 00:31:29.756
I'll do marketing Fair.

00:31:30.145 --> 00:31:30.445
Yeah.

00:31:30.566 --> 00:31:32.365
So, you know, I got two paths.

00:31:32.365 --> 00:31:32.786
I get it.

00:31:32.786 --> 00:31:33.056
Yeah.

00:31:33.476 --> 00:31:36.385
Um, you seem like a psychology guy a little bit too.

00:31:37.121 --> 00:31:39.010
Uh, I've been told that I should be a therapist.

00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:41.441
My mom, my mom wants me to be a therapist.

00:31:42.401 --> 00:31:42.550
Wow.

00:31:42.550 --> 00:31:44.080
Or like a psychologist or something.

00:31:44.080 --> 00:31:44.260
Yeah.

00:31:44.266 --> 00:31:44.306
Yeah.

00:31:44.310 --> 00:31:49.631
Um, well, marketing makes a lot more money and basically uses the same principles, so Right.

00:31:49.871 --> 00:31:54.161
Just take a ex, get an extra emphasis on psychology during your marketing journey.

00:31:54.221 --> 00:31:54.401
Yeah.

00:31:54.401 --> 00:31:55.300
It wouldn't be a bad idea.

00:31:55.840 --> 00:31:59.951
So, um, let's, uh, let's kind of zoom back.

00:31:59.951 --> 00:32:10.871
We always zoom back in the time machine to little Edward of wondering, uh, like you kind of said, you know, you thought the deca nerds were for dorks early on, right?

00:32:10.931 --> 00:32:16.750
Like, describe your, your early years, uh, and maybe your family background just a little bit too.

00:32:16.750 --> 00:32:17.681
What are your folks up to?

00:32:17.681 --> 00:32:18.371
Where'd they come from?

00:32:18.641 --> 00:32:20.740
Yeah, so I, you said Baltimore, Louisiana.

00:32:20.740 --> 00:32:21.401
I guess we'll go.

00:32:21.401 --> 00:32:22.000
How'd they get here?

00:32:22.121 --> 00:32:23.050
We can, we can go way back.

00:32:23.050 --> 00:32:23.951
Let's go with way back.

00:32:23.951 --> 00:32:24.490
Where were you born?

00:32:24.641 --> 00:32:26.471
So I was born in Dallas, Texas.

00:32:26.800 --> 00:32:27.161
Oh, okay.

00:32:27.280 --> 00:32:32.500
And my dad back then was a consultant with.

00:32:33.236 --> 00:32:33.746
Bain.

00:32:34.076 --> 00:32:34.645
Okay.

00:32:34.645 --> 00:32:34.945
I think.

00:32:35.006 --> 00:32:35.215
Yep.

00:32:35.306 --> 00:32:36.806
That was one of like the big five shop.

00:32:36.806 --> 00:32:36.865
Yeah.

00:32:36.895 --> 00:32:39.145
So he was, he was kind of hopping around.

00:32:39.205 --> 00:32:39.596
Okay.

00:32:39.655 --> 00:32:40.976
He was doing a bunch of different stuff.

00:32:41.336 --> 00:32:46.256
At some point he was consulting on stuff, stuff, being smart.

00:32:46.316 --> 00:32:46.855
Yeah.

00:32:46.855 --> 00:32:49.766
I, I'm not sure what project he was with back at Bain.

00:32:50.096 --> 00:32:54.086
Um, I do know at some point before I was born, he was with Pricewaterhouse Cooper.

00:32:54.205 --> 00:32:54.415
Okay.

00:32:54.445 --> 00:32:55.885
Working on the B two bomber.

00:32:56.036 --> 00:32:56.546
Oh, interesting.

00:32:56.546 --> 00:33:00.865
And he found out that we were invading Afghanistan three weeks before we invaded Afghanistan.

00:33:00.986 --> 00:33:01.286
Oh wow.

00:33:01.645 --> 00:33:03.566
And that was kind of a mind blow for him.

00:33:03.625 --> 00:33:04.016
Yeah.

00:33:04.195 --> 00:33:09.476
Um, but, uh, so my parents met at Virginia.

00:33:09.655 --> 00:33:12.625
My dad always likes to say that if he wasn't so stupid, he wouldn't have met my mom.

00:33:12.776 --> 00:33:15.115
'cause he took a fifth year to finish college Fair.

00:33:15.506 --> 00:33:15.836
All right.

00:33:16.226 --> 00:33:17.425
Um, I did that by election.

00:33:17.516 --> 00:33:20.605
I was like, if I get outta college, then I gotta go get a job.

00:33:20.605 --> 00:33:22.165
Like this is pretty fun here.

00:33:23.096 --> 00:33:25.346
So they met, um.

00:33:25.675 --> 00:33:30.115
My mom was finishing, actually, I think my mom, my mom graduated early and my dad graduated late.

00:33:30.205 --> 00:33:30.625
Okay.

00:33:30.625 --> 00:33:31.586
So it's kind of funny.

00:33:31.705 --> 00:33:31.871
Yep, yep.

00:33:32.185 --> 00:33:36.056
Um, they met, uh, then my dad went to go work for a little while.

00:33:36.086 --> 00:33:43.135
Then he got his master's at Tuck at Dartmouth in Master's of Business Association.

00:33:43.195 --> 00:33:43.226
Okay.

00:33:43.705 --> 00:33:44.155
MBA?

00:33:44.155 --> 00:33:47.425
Yeah, he got his MBA at Tuck, and then I was born Okay.

00:33:47.605 --> 00:33:48.506
Uh, in Dallas.

00:33:48.506 --> 00:33:49.675
That's when they moved down there.

00:33:50.486 --> 00:33:54.986
And then my dad stayed around there shopping around a bunch of different consulting groups, I think.

00:33:54.986 --> 00:33:55.346
Interesting.

00:33:55.736 --> 00:33:57.056
And then did he have a specialty?

00:33:57.056 --> 00:33:58.465
Was he a finance guy?

00:33:58.465 --> 00:33:59.576
Was he an idea guy?

00:33:59.576 --> 00:34:06.655
So he has a background in, uh, it's always interesting to me engineer people that come outta college and then they just like become consultants.

00:34:06.655 --> 00:34:09.115
So he is, he's a background in, uh, eng.

00:34:09.206 --> 00:34:09.655
Oh my God.

00:34:09.655 --> 00:34:10.556
What kind of engineering?

00:34:10.585 --> 00:34:10.646
Mmm.

00:34:11.905 --> 00:34:12.715
Systems engineering.

00:34:12.746 --> 00:34:13.045
Yeah.

00:34:13.226 --> 00:34:14.630
Or industrial, that kind of process.

00:34:15.030 --> 00:34:15.865
Engineering kind stuff.

00:34:15.865 --> 00:34:16.190
System engineering.

00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:17.755
So he's, he's a really good thinker.

00:34:17.815 --> 00:34:18.056
Yeah.

00:34:18.056 --> 00:34:18.896
He's really good at math.

00:34:18.896 --> 00:34:21.326
And then he added some business sense to that.

00:34:21.356 --> 00:34:21.596
Yeah.

00:34:21.775 --> 00:34:24.505
And my mom was a nurse practitioner for a while.

00:34:24.536 --> 00:34:24.865
Okay.

00:34:24.925 --> 00:34:26.755
So, and she was practicing for a while.

00:34:27.175 --> 00:34:32.485
Um, and then my dad got called up to Honeywell to do strategy for them.

00:34:32.606 --> 00:34:33.025
Okay.

00:34:33.295 --> 00:34:35.186
Uh, and that moved us to Louisville.

00:34:35.666 --> 00:34:36.235
Oh, Kentucky.

00:34:36.235 --> 00:34:36.655
Interesting.

00:34:36.661 --> 00:34:38.815
So, so we were there for a little under a year.

00:34:38.936 --> 00:34:39.235
Alright.

00:34:39.326 --> 00:34:40.585
So at that point I was six.

00:34:40.615 --> 00:34:40.916
Okay.

00:34:41.096 --> 00:34:41.246
Yep.

00:34:41.246 --> 00:34:41.396
Dallas.

00:34:41.396 --> 00:34:42.630
And that's where you start remembering things.

00:34:42.661 --> 00:34:43.856
Kind of Dallas for five years.

00:34:44.186 --> 00:34:45.925
Then we moved to Louisville for six.

00:34:46.076 --> 00:34:48.025
And in that span, both my sisters were born.

00:34:48.206 --> 00:34:48.536
Okay.

00:34:48.715 --> 00:34:50.905
So I'm five years older than my youngest sister.

00:34:51.925 --> 00:34:55.195
Two or, uh, just under three years older than my middle sister.

00:34:55.226 --> 00:34:55.615
Okay.

00:34:55.766 --> 00:34:57.085
And did your mom leave her career?

00:34:57.085 --> 00:35:00.536
At some And my mom, my mom stopped working, uh, right as we left Dallas.

00:35:00.715 --> 00:35:01.315
Gotcha, gotcha.

00:35:01.315 --> 00:35:03.025
As far as I understand, I think ish.

00:35:03.626 --> 00:35:03.925
Right.

00:35:03.925 --> 00:35:04.255
Timeline.

00:35:04.525 --> 00:35:06.206
Little, it's not like a documentary project.

00:35:06.206 --> 00:35:06.416
It's fine.

00:35:06.416 --> 00:35:10.346
Um, so then moved up to Louisville, but your dad was doing well enough in his career.

00:35:10.376 --> 00:35:10.556
Right.

00:35:10.615 --> 00:35:14.335
But even though he had a couple more ankle biters, he could still swing it with your mom at home, right?

00:35:14.335 --> 00:35:14.666
Yeah.

00:35:14.936 --> 00:35:18.056
So moved and then moved again.

00:35:18.115 --> 00:35:21.476
He got pulled over to Hawk Oh, water company.

00:35:21.476 --> 00:35:21.565
Yeah.

00:35:21.565 --> 00:35:22.315
Over here in Loveland.

00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.186
Led Dan in Loveland.

00:35:23.275 --> 00:35:23.485
Yeah.

00:35:23.936 --> 00:35:26.996
And then he was doing mergers and acquisitions for them for a while.

00:35:27.085 --> 00:35:27.416
Oh yeah.

00:35:27.775 --> 00:35:28.376
And then, yeah.

00:35:28.376 --> 00:35:30.715
'cause they were rolling up quite a few other companies for a while.

00:35:30.721 --> 00:35:30.771
Mm-hmm.

00:35:30.951 --> 00:35:32.036
Before they got rolled up.

00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:33.505
Right, right.

00:35:33.505 --> 00:35:34.525
It was like a tumbling cascade.

00:35:34.525 --> 00:35:40.735
And then that, that was so that, so he was with owned by Danaher, which is like the big industrial conglomerate.

00:35:40.735 --> 00:35:41.036
Yep.

00:35:42.221 --> 00:35:43.121
Outta Finland or something?

00:35:43.121 --> 00:35:43.300
No.

00:35:43.300 --> 00:35:43.931
Where's Danaher?

00:35:43.931 --> 00:35:44.380
Sweden?

00:35:44.650 --> 00:35:45.760
It's over there somewhere.

00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:46.420
I don't, I don't really know.

00:35:46.420 --> 00:35:47.380
I don't think it's Germany.

00:35:47.380 --> 00:35:49.811
I feel like it's one of those other Nordic countries instead.

00:35:49.900 --> 00:35:50.800
I think so, yeah.

00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:51.431
And it doesn't matter.

00:35:51.791 --> 00:35:53.081
Um, it's not the Swiss at least.

00:35:53.110 --> 00:35:53.320
Yeah.

00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.391
So he's doing, it's the signs of it issues.

00:35:58.181 --> 00:36:00.190
That's, that goes back to before we started this conversation.

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:01.150
Anyway.

00:36:01.811 --> 00:36:05.501
So he was doing, uh, strategy and mergers and acquisitions for them.

00:36:05.561 --> 00:36:08.561
As for, again, as far as I understand, kind of rolled up with Right.

00:36:08.561 --> 00:36:12.820
The, the water company here into the Uhhuh water and all that stuff.

00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:16.960
And then he moved to Trojan, which is the Canadian system, the condom manufacturing business?

00:36:16.990 --> 00:36:18.190
No, Trojan Technologies.

00:36:18.731 --> 00:36:18.762
Oh, okay.

00:36:18.762 --> 00:36:18.762
Yeah.

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.740
Uh, the Water UV filtration company, which is a sister company to Hawk.

00:36:23.831 --> 00:36:24.760
Oh, also owned by Danaher.

00:36:24.791 --> 00:36:25.030
Okay.

00:36:25.121 --> 00:36:25.391
Yep.

00:36:25.661 --> 00:36:34.001
And then he got moved into more of a strategy role at Danaher after that.

00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:35.260
So he did marketing there.

00:36:35.831 --> 00:36:36.190
Okay.

00:36:36.490 --> 00:36:40.271
And then he got moved to a strategy role at Danaher and he kind of.

00:36:41.036 --> 00:36:44.996
Headed the combining of all of the water companies into one.

00:36:45.175 --> 00:36:45.865
Oh, interesting.

00:36:45.865 --> 00:36:48.715
And he did that faster than the timeline assumed for.

00:36:48.775 --> 00:36:48.956
Yeah.

00:36:48.956 --> 00:36:54.715
And in that time, Dan, her CEO left and got replaced, and when he was done, there was nowhere left for him.

00:36:54.896 --> 00:36:55.076
Wow.

00:36:55.286 --> 00:36:56.365
So he left.

00:36:56.606 --> 00:36:56.755
Yeah.

00:36:56.876 --> 00:36:58.646
Or he kind of got forced out, kind of left.

00:36:58.646 --> 00:36:58.766
Yeah.

00:36:58.766 --> 00:36:59.936
It, it was just kind of over.

00:37:00.025 --> 00:37:00.235
Yeah.

00:37:00.505 --> 00:37:02.096
Um, it was time for him to go, it's not you.

00:37:02.096 --> 00:37:02.635
It's not me.

00:37:02.635 --> 00:37:03.235
It's just time.

00:37:03.356 --> 00:37:03.956
It's time to go.

00:37:04.076 --> 00:37:04.315
Yeah.

00:37:04.525 --> 00:37:09.865
So he left and he looked, shopped around for a job for a while, and then, and this is years ago now?

00:37:09.865 --> 00:37:11.606
No, this is, was two, six months ago.

00:37:11.606 --> 00:37:12.626
Two, three years ago now.

00:37:12.626 --> 00:37:12.655
Okay.

00:37:13.045 --> 00:37:18.175
And at that point in time, an old friend ended up at KKR, the private equity firm.

00:37:18.181 --> 00:37:18.240
Yeah.

00:37:18.356 --> 00:37:18.476
Yep.

00:37:18.956 --> 00:37:26.666
And he said, Hey, we're acquiring private, or we're, we're acquiring industrial physics.

00:37:27.115 --> 00:37:27.536
Okay.

00:37:27.806 --> 00:37:30.416
Which is another industrial firm.

00:37:30.536 --> 00:37:30.806
Yep.

00:37:30.925 --> 00:37:34.826
Uh, they do packaging like testing.

00:37:35.186 --> 00:37:35.215
Okay.

00:37:35.215 --> 00:37:35.306
Yep.

00:37:35.365 --> 00:37:39.115
So if you want, so like, have you ever wondered like why.

00:37:39.565 --> 00:37:41.246
The can is that thick.

00:37:41.365 --> 00:37:41.726
Sure.

00:37:42.146 --> 00:37:43.045
That's what they do.

00:37:43.050 --> 00:37:43.231
Yeah.

00:37:43.235 --> 00:37:43.496
Yeah.

00:37:43.496 --> 00:37:47.431
So, so they like test the thickness of cans and like exactly why it is the way it's, yeah.

00:37:47.436 --> 00:37:47.485
Yeah.

00:37:47.485 --> 00:37:54.295
What's it gotta be If you're looking for cheap, if you're Apple, you're like, what's it gotta feel like to be just next?

00:37:54.295 --> 00:37:54.565
Right?

00:37:54.565 --> 00:37:54.715
Yeah.

00:37:55.255 --> 00:37:57.235
You know, when I get that new iPhone Right.

00:37:57.235 --> 00:37:58.916
All those things, how much do I have to spend in that box?

00:37:58.916 --> 00:37:59.215
Right.

00:37:59.215 --> 00:38:00.146
To get it to feel just nice.

00:38:00.251 --> 00:38:02.246
So, so they do like packaging and stuff like that.

00:38:02.246 --> 00:38:02.516
Interesting.

00:38:02.516 --> 00:38:02.666
All right.

00:38:02.905 --> 00:38:04.197
They're like, we need a COO.

00:38:04.255 --> 00:38:05.516
Do you wanna be our COO?

00:38:05.815 --> 00:38:07.016
And my dad was like, sure.

00:38:07.106 --> 00:38:09.235
So now he's the CEO, he is like kicking guard Jason.

00:38:09.235 --> 00:38:10.166
So that's what he's doing right now.

00:38:10.315 --> 00:38:10.615
Alright.

00:38:10.706 --> 00:38:13.076
Um, so I've been Sounds like a jack of all trades, right?

00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:15.985
So he's just like a COO for higher at this point.

00:38:16.496 --> 00:38:16.887
Yeah, yeah.

00:38:16.887 --> 00:38:16.887
Yeah.

00:38:17.606 --> 00:38:21.476
I've been following his business stuff my entire life.

00:38:21.505 --> 00:38:24.806
You're kind of a fanboy a little bit, one would say.

00:38:24.865 --> 00:38:25.195
Yeah.

00:38:25.465 --> 00:38:29.695
Um, so I've been kind of more inclined to that.

00:38:29.876 --> 00:38:30.085
Yeah.

00:38:30.115 --> 00:38:35.096
Um, that adventurous kind of, uh, corporate ladder.

00:38:35.126 --> 00:38:35.635
Yeah.

00:38:35.635 --> 00:38:35.695
Yeah.

00:38:35.695 --> 00:38:36.266
Kind of.

00:38:36.641 --> 00:38:38.170
You know, fixing things.

00:38:38.590 --> 00:38:49.690
Although he, he's an interesting case because he kind of, you know, he was in corporations, but doing consulting, which is almost kind of a one man band kind of a role a lot of times.

00:38:49.690 --> 00:38:49.751
Yeah.

00:38:49.780 --> 00:38:56.320
But now he's found ways to fit himself well into actual C suite kind of roles and stuff.

00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:56.380
Yeah.

00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:57.431
I mean, he's worked his way up.

00:38:57.431 --> 00:38:58.900
He does, he does a lot of stuff.

00:38:58.960 --> 00:38:59.170
Yeah.

00:38:59.170 --> 00:38:59.501
Fair.

00:38:59.621 --> 00:39:00.731
But a big battery guy.

00:39:01.090 --> 00:39:01.481
Yeah.

00:39:02.021 --> 00:39:05.831
But, uh, so like, it's always been something that I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna do what my dad does.

00:39:06.016 --> 00:39:07.780
I'm gonna be a businessman, like as a kid.

00:39:08.050 --> 00:39:10.150
So I've always, I've always found myself like.

00:39:10.661 --> 00:39:12.521
Oh, like, I'm, I'm just gonna be a businessman.

00:39:12.521 --> 00:39:13.541
Like why not that?

00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.751
And, and then at one point in time, like, oh, I wanna be a doctor.

00:39:17.081 --> 00:39:18.731
And then I took AP biology.

00:39:18.911 --> 00:39:19.300
Okay.

00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.130
And I started volunteering at a hospital.

00:39:21.940 --> 00:39:22.210
Yeah.

00:39:22.215 --> 00:39:25.030
And AP biology taught me that I could not get through med school.

00:39:25.391 --> 00:39:28.315
And I, volunteering at a hospital taught me that I hate hospital.

00:39:28.315 --> 00:39:29.945
You wouldn't wanna be very AP could, could hospitals.

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:30.731
Right.

00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.530
Um, so then I'm like, okay, yeah, definitely not this, let's go back to being a businessman.

00:39:35.590 --> 00:39:35.920
Yeah.

00:39:35.925 --> 00:39:35.945
Yeah.

00:39:36.161 --> 00:39:39.641
And I found that I love deca Cool.

00:39:39.701 --> 00:39:40.360
Freshman year.

00:39:40.391 --> 00:39:45.581
Well, it gives you such a chance to experience probably brushing up against people in all kinds of different industries too.

00:39:46.001 --> 00:39:46.271
Right?

00:39:46.271 --> 00:39:48.641
Like, you don't have to follow your dad's footsteps.

00:39:48.641 --> 00:39:49.061
Exactly.

00:39:49.061 --> 00:39:51.280
'cause you're probably wired differently than him in some ways.

00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.021
Oh, I'm not as much of a math guy as he.

00:39:53.831 --> 00:39:54.101
Right.

00:39:54.101 --> 00:39:55.271
Maybe you could follow up with math.

00:39:55.271 --> 00:39:59.260
Maybe at my age he was doing calculus three and I barely passed Calculus one.

00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:00.311
Yeah, fair enough.

00:40:00.521 --> 00:40:04.331
Well, that was part of my encouragement and my engineering pathway.

00:40:04.331 --> 00:40:05.710
It was like, ugh, CAL two was.

00:40:06.550 --> 00:40:07.061
Brutal.

00:40:07.210 --> 00:40:07.545
You know?

00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:14.170
And, uh, and I job shadowed somebody that was like a civil engineer and talked to a guy that was like a mechanical engineer.

00:40:14.771 --> 00:40:16.065
I was like, Ugh.

00:40:16.536 --> 00:40:24.581
Like, yeah, you like sit in a cubicle and draw stuff most of the time, or you go, you know, on the job sites and make sure they're building the bridge right.

00:40:24.581 --> 00:40:25.030
And stuff.

00:40:25.061 --> 00:40:27.010
It just doesn't seem that exciting.

00:40:27.101 --> 00:40:27.490
Right.

00:40:27.851 --> 00:40:29.081
So I digress.

00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:30.371
Well, I mean, like my dad.

00:40:30.431 --> 00:40:32.351
So it's good to get out there and get experience.

00:40:32.411 --> 00:40:32.740
Right.

00:40:32.740 --> 00:40:34.300
Bumping into people that do lots of stuff.

00:40:34.661 --> 00:40:36.550
No, I, I think that's been like my favorite part.

00:40:36.550 --> 00:40:41.260
But like, my dad tells me his favorite part of college was when he took Q Theory.

00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:41.981
Okay.

00:40:41.981 --> 00:40:48.971
And he learned about, he did simulations, learning about how lines work and like, what's the most efficient way to get people into an airplane.

00:40:49.061 --> 00:40:49.360
Mm.

00:40:49.510 --> 00:40:50.621
And like all that stuff.

00:40:51.041 --> 00:40:51.101
Yeah.

00:40:51.101 --> 00:40:53.626
And I'm like, you find that fun, like zipper traffic and stuff like that.

00:40:53.896 --> 00:40:55.150
Like that's, that's fun for you.

00:40:55.525 --> 00:40:56.771
And he's like, yeah, I love it.

00:40:56.831 --> 00:40:58.780
And I'm like, okay.

00:40:58.780 --> 00:41:01.840
Like, uh, you know, things might click together for you.

00:41:02.155 --> 00:41:02.195
Whatever.

00:41:02.201 --> 00:41:03.431
Whatever floats your boat dad.

00:41:03.431 --> 00:41:05.351
Like what gets you excited?

00:41:05.771 --> 00:41:08.471
I like the, the large scale problems.

00:41:08.771 --> 00:41:08.831
Okay.

00:41:08.831 --> 00:41:17.440
Like, like that's why I love doing entrepreneurship as an event because you can get literally any kind of like different kind of role play.

00:41:18.221 --> 00:41:18.311
Yeah.

00:41:18.311 --> 00:41:25.661
Or that's what we call like the case studies, like role play because, uh, for example, like at the state conference I got one which was apparel based.

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:26.021
Yep.

00:41:26.081 --> 00:41:27.731
Which, which felt like a marketing one.

00:41:27.940 --> 00:41:30.340
And then the next one I got was operations focused.

00:41:30.550 --> 00:41:30.940
Okay.

00:41:31.150 --> 00:41:34.721
So it was literally back to back like totally opposite ends.

00:41:34.726 --> 00:41:34.936
Yeah.

00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:35.110
Yeah.

00:41:35.141 --> 00:41:36.340
Come up with a promotional plan.

00:41:36.371 --> 00:41:36.431
Yeah.

00:41:36.431 --> 00:41:36.731
Okay.

00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:40.900
Now come up with a way that you can fix these, this rubbernecking in this, in this business.

00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.130
Be a fast thinker kind of.

00:41:42.161 --> 00:41:42.431
Right.

00:41:42.431 --> 00:41:43.931
Like it's, it's totally different.

00:41:44.021 --> 00:41:44.411
Yeah.

00:41:44.920 --> 00:42:01.780
You know, I think just off my quick sense, uh, because you know, if anything, one of my skill sets is recognizing talent, and especially with your mom saying that she thinks you should be a therapist or a psychologist or whatever, like moving people getting.

00:42:02.411 --> 00:42:03.971
Teams to accept change.

00:42:03.971 --> 00:42:08.201
You know, that kind of stuff is one of the most important things in business always.

00:42:08.201 --> 00:42:13.030
But even more so in today's kind of cynical, what's in it for me world.

00:42:13.061 --> 00:42:13.360
Right.

00:42:13.811 --> 00:42:19.360
Um, so that might be at least an emphasis that you consider, well, my dad says I should be an organizational leadership.

00:42:19.420 --> 00:42:19.960
Yeah.

00:42:20.050 --> 00:42:20.471
Yeah.

00:42:20.621 --> 00:42:23.320
That seems, but he, he's like, that's 30 years down in your career.

00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:23.951
I'm like, right.

00:42:23.951 --> 00:42:27.221
Well, but that doesn't mean you can't kind of emphasize that study along the way.

00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:27.670
Right.

00:42:27.851 --> 00:42:29.201
You know, get some deep principles.

00:42:29.416 --> 00:42:34.451
I think they have a, I think they have a leadership add-on that you, like a minor in leadership seems likely at my school.

00:42:34.541 --> 00:42:36.161
Yeah, I know, I know.

00:42:36.190 --> 00:42:38.141
Uh, I was looking at CU for a while.

00:42:38.141 --> 00:42:40.001
I know that they have a really good leadership school.

00:42:40.210 --> 00:42:45.896
That was if, if Virginia didn't let you in Yeah, that was kind of the back, basically that was back option.

00:42:45.940 --> 00:42:50.771
I actually found out my acceptance from CU and Virginia on the same day.

00:42:50.860 --> 00:42:51.340
Oh, wow.

00:42:51.521 --> 00:42:51.851
Yeah.

00:42:51.851 --> 00:42:57.550
I I found out Virginia like five hours bef No, not the five hours, like three hours before cu.

00:42:57.641 --> 00:42:57.940
Yeah.

00:42:58.240 --> 00:42:58.690
And.

00:42:59.126 --> 00:43:03.865
It was kind of funny because also that same day we had family like Christmas card pictures.

00:43:03.956 --> 00:43:04.166
Yeah.

00:43:04.226 --> 00:43:09.985
And my mom's like, Edward, you cannot cry if you don't get in because we can't take these pictures with your eyes being right.

00:43:09.985 --> 00:43:10.615
And I'm like, okay.

00:43:10.615 --> 00:43:10.885
Wow.

00:43:10.885 --> 00:43:11.456
Thanks mom.

00:43:11.456 --> 00:43:12.175
Way to be supportive.

00:43:12.175 --> 00:43:20.155
It would've been pretty funny to take a family, uh, picture for Christmas with your CU sweater on that day.

00:43:20.155 --> 00:43:21.050
Your made the decision.

00:43:21.050 --> 00:43:21.251
Your uncle.

00:43:21.411 --> 00:43:27.085
No, but even if you were going to Virginia, but all your uncles and aunts and stuff and be like, oh, he must not have got into Virginia.

00:43:27.085 --> 00:43:28.135
That stupid policy.

00:43:28.135 --> 00:43:30.085
They changed because legacy.

00:43:30.385 --> 00:43:30.686
Right.

00:43:33.146 --> 00:43:34.076
Anyway, I digress.

00:43:34.166 --> 00:43:34.706
Yeah.

00:43:34.885 --> 00:43:40.795
Um, what else would you want people to know about your kind of deca experience, I guess?

00:43:40.795 --> 00:43:42.806
Well now we've gotten into me in high school.

00:43:42.806 --> 00:43:44.365
I guess we kind of talked about all my childhood.

00:43:44.456 --> 00:43:44.545
Yeah.

00:43:44.635 --> 00:43:47.396
Um, so now I guess we got into me in high school.

00:43:47.456 --> 00:43:47.635
Yeah.

00:43:47.635 --> 00:43:49.405
So the reason why I joined Deca Yeah.

00:43:49.615 --> 00:43:53.306
Was because I, we had, we were going to move.

00:43:53.891 --> 00:43:54.221
Oh.

00:43:54.371 --> 00:43:56.920
Um, I used to live, we used to live on the south end of town.

00:43:57.041 --> 00:43:57.340
Okay.

00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.110
So I was going to Preston.

00:43:59.530 --> 00:43:59.891
Okay.

00:43:59.891 --> 00:44:00.400
Middle school.

00:44:00.431 --> 00:44:00.641
Yep.

00:44:01.001 --> 00:44:07.240
And we were gonna move to the north end of town and I had no desire to do International Baccalaureate.

00:44:07.630 --> 00:44:07.960
Okay.

00:44:08.201 --> 00:44:10.990
So I was like, I'm not going to putter.

00:44:11.561 --> 00:44:11.920
Okay.

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:13.090
So what's the next closest school?

00:44:13.121 --> 00:44:13.331
Okay.

00:44:13.331 --> 00:44:13.931
Rocky.

00:44:14.021 --> 00:44:14.351
Okay.

00:44:14.411 --> 00:44:17.440
And we already knew some people going to Rocky, so we're like Okay.

00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.485
So you School of choice to Rocky Camp.

00:44:19.485 --> 00:44:23.081
So we got Lucky School Choice in Rocky, um,'cause we now live in Old Town.

00:44:23.650 --> 00:44:24.880
Um, where do you live?

00:44:25.391 --> 00:44:26.650
Uh, just by Lee Martinez.

00:44:26.996 --> 00:44:29.911
Uh, we're, my wife and I live at, uh, LA Porte and Whittcomb, basically.

00:44:29.911 --> 00:44:31.735
So I see, I see your bus all the time.

00:44:32.065 --> 00:44:33.146
My, my ambulance camper.

00:44:33.146 --> 00:44:33.206
Yeah.

00:44:35.306 --> 00:44:36.956
Um, but so we're like, okay.

00:44:36.956 --> 00:44:37.195
Yeah.

00:44:37.195 --> 00:44:39.835
Like, might as well, you know, go to Rocky.

00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:40.030
Yeah.

00:44:40.030 --> 00:44:40.826
So we went to Rocky.

00:44:41.335 --> 00:44:43.166
I knew nobody except that one family.

00:44:43.226 --> 00:44:43.496
Mm.

00:44:43.556 --> 00:44:45.266
So I'm like, oh gee, this is kind rough.

00:44:45.565 --> 00:44:45.925
Right.

00:44:45.956 --> 00:44:47.335
I might as well, I'm not good at baseball.

00:44:48.445 --> 00:44:48.956
Or maybe you are.

00:44:48.956 --> 00:44:49.135
I dunno.

00:44:49.135 --> 00:44:50.036
I'm not good at baseball.

00:44:50.036 --> 00:44:50.786
I used to play lacrosse.

00:44:50.815 --> 00:44:51.985
I'm re I'm retired now.

00:44:52.166 --> 00:44:52.766
Retired.

00:44:52.795 --> 00:44:53.155
Yeah.

00:44:53.155 --> 00:44:53.157
Yeah.

00:44:53.275 --> 00:44:55.255
Uh, but, uh, I, I used to play lacrosse.

00:44:55.286 --> 00:44:55.615
Okay.

00:44:55.885 --> 00:44:59.186
Uh, but I'm like, oh geez, I don't know anybody.

00:44:59.635 --> 00:45:01.885
Um, how, how do I make friends?

00:45:01.916 --> 00:45:02.306
Yeah.

00:45:02.306 --> 00:45:02.306
Yeah.

00:45:02.786 --> 00:45:05.456
Um, join some clubs, I guess.

00:45:05.545 --> 00:45:09.085
So I went to like five different club meetings.

00:45:09.175 --> 00:45:09.385
Okay.

00:45:09.385 --> 00:45:10.376
And I'm like, hate this one.

00:45:10.376 --> 00:45:10.885
Hate this one.

00:45:10.885 --> 00:45:11.485
Hate this one.

00:45:11.485 --> 00:45:11.965
Let's hear.

00:45:11.996 --> 00:45:13.195
Which, which clubs did you visit?

00:45:13.255 --> 00:45:16.706
Uh, I went to like, you don't have to, I don't even remember.

00:45:17.050 --> 00:45:18.610
I went to, I went to Deca.

00:45:19.150 --> 00:45:21.550
I went to like an, an art club.

00:45:21.550 --> 00:45:23.320
I don't even, what am I, what was I even doing?

00:45:24.161 --> 00:45:25.420
You were bored and lonely.

00:45:25.425 --> 00:45:26.231
I, I guess so.

00:45:26.231 --> 00:45:28.271
I went to, I admire your Splunk though.

00:45:28.271 --> 00:45:30.731
'cause a lot of times people just kind of suffer.

00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:31.630
Yeah.

00:45:31.661 --> 00:45:38.440
You know, they're like, uh, I am here new in this school, I don't know anybody and I'm just gonna like, be here and kind of suffer.

00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.181
But you're like, no, this isn't gonna work.

00:45:40.271 --> 00:45:40.570
I good.

00:45:40.570 --> 00:45:44.561
I went to, I went to like, um, a chess club meeting.

00:45:44.650 --> 00:45:45.010
Okay.

00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:45.971
Which I didn't hate.

00:45:45.971 --> 00:45:47.231
I've always kinda liked chess.

00:45:47.590 --> 00:45:52.510
And then I went to like this, this like general like board game, like lunch club meeting.

00:45:52.541 --> 00:45:52.630
Okay.

00:45:52.630 --> 00:45:54.820
It was more just like, you know, get together, meet some people.

00:45:54.820 --> 00:45:56.050
And that wasn't bad either.

00:45:56.201 --> 00:45:56.411
Yeah.

00:45:56.471 --> 00:46:00.731
But I, I went to, uh, I went to Deca and I was like, this is weird.

00:46:01.601 --> 00:46:02.860
Like, this is strange.

00:46:02.891 --> 00:46:03.940
It felt like a cult.

00:46:04.181 --> 00:46:06.911
And, but I met some people because they're too.

00:46:07.286 --> 00:46:08.965
It, it's, you gotta drink the Kool-Aid.

00:46:08.965 --> 00:46:11.365
Like, like, I'm like, why are you so excited about this?

00:46:11.396 --> 00:46:11.606
Yeah.

00:46:12.056 --> 00:46:13.646
But I was like, okay, whatever.

00:46:13.646 --> 00:46:14.635
I'll, I'll keep going.

00:46:14.635 --> 00:46:16.945
Like, it seems like a decent opportunity to get to meet some people.

00:46:16.945 --> 00:46:20.456
And I met some friends and so I kept going freshman year.

00:46:20.905 --> 00:46:21.235
Right.

00:46:21.235 --> 00:46:23.815
Kept going, went to this district competition.

00:46:23.815 --> 00:46:24.655
'cause like why not?

00:46:25.706 --> 00:46:26.635
Turns out I won.

00:46:26.876 --> 00:46:30.416
I came in third place, barely qualified by the skin of my teeth to state.

00:46:30.505 --> 00:46:31.376
I'm like, okay, wow.

00:46:31.646 --> 00:46:32.606
I guess I'm good at this.

00:46:32.635 --> 00:46:32.846
Yeah.

00:46:33.206 --> 00:46:39.146
At that point I had made some friends, so I went to state, did not, had no expectations, barely studied.

00:46:39.146 --> 00:46:42.655
I was like, okay, this freshman year I'm just gonna go have fun and see what it's about.

00:46:42.655 --> 00:46:42.715
Yeah.

00:46:43.916 --> 00:46:47.126
I ended up winning the whole thing in my event and I was like, okay, wow.

00:46:47.186 --> 00:46:47.936
This is crazy.

00:46:47.936 --> 00:46:48.925
I'm going to internationals.

00:46:48.925 --> 00:46:50.036
I have some great friends now.

00:46:50.036 --> 00:46:51.295
Like, let's, let's go.

00:46:51.356 --> 00:46:51.715
Yeah.

00:46:51.715 --> 00:46:51.717
Yeah.

00:46:51.806 --> 00:46:57.896
And at this point I had met someone that is going to have a lot of impact on me.

00:46:58.315 --> 00:47:01.436
Um, hew, I don't know if you're watching this Henny.

00:47:01.436 --> 00:47:01.766
Woo.

00:47:01.945 --> 00:47:02.396
Yeah.

00:47:02.666 --> 00:47:02.965
Okay.

00:47:03.175 --> 00:47:03.686
Henny.

00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:05.981
Um, had a lot of impact on me.

00:47:06.460 --> 00:47:09.820
Uh, we both ended up going to internationals together that year.

00:47:10.271 --> 00:47:17.891
She, uh, and I both go internationals and we're making fun of the people on stage.

00:47:17.951 --> 00:47:24.940
This is where the whole, the door deck is a cult come from, comes from and we're like, oh my God, we could never do that.

00:47:24.971 --> 00:47:26.951
Like, that looks so weird.

00:47:27.521 --> 00:47:30.670
And at this point, I had applied to study abroad in Switzerland.

00:47:30.701 --> 00:47:30.940
Mm.

00:47:31.271 --> 00:47:31.541
Yeah.

00:47:31.721 --> 00:47:34.210
So I'm like, oh man, I can't really do DECA again.

00:47:34.570 --> 00:47:36.940
So I was like, okay, I'm gonna go study abroad in Switzerland.

00:47:37.331 --> 00:47:46.001
I leave, um, August, so fall semester, sophomore year I leave August and I, I go and I have a great time.

00:47:46.061 --> 00:47:47.260
I meet 50.

00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:49.121
Do they have DECA in Switzerland too?

00:47:49.181 --> 00:47:50.231
They don't, they don't have DECA in Switzerland.

00:47:50.231 --> 00:47:50.260
Okay.

00:47:50.771 --> 00:47:54.280
Um, I meet, uh, some amazing people.

00:47:54.371 --> 00:47:54.701
Sure.

00:47:55.240 --> 00:47:57.340
I make 52 best friends.

00:47:57.851 --> 00:47:58.360
Uh.

00:47:59.065 --> 00:48:00.956
Again, fantastic experience.

00:48:00.956 --> 00:48:01.016
Yeah.

00:48:01.045 --> 00:48:03.445
I ski and hike every single day.

00:48:03.775 --> 00:48:06.775
We travel, we see some incredible things.

00:48:06.775 --> 00:48:09.146
Like we study, I take art history while I'm there.

00:48:09.146 --> 00:48:09.175
Mm.

00:48:09.505 --> 00:48:11.996
We study artwork in the class.

00:48:12.385 --> 00:48:16.195
We travel all over in the classroom and then we go and we see the actual pieces.

00:48:16.346 --> 00:48:17.815
Well, not just in Switzerland even.

00:48:17.876 --> 00:48:18.235
Yeah.

00:48:18.536 --> 00:48:22.016
Like, it was like, that's like in one of the most insane experiences.

00:48:22.016 --> 00:48:22.496
Yeah.

00:48:23.485 --> 00:48:27.565
So I come back and I decide that I'm gonna do a written presentation.

00:48:28.226 --> 00:48:30.235
So, so those are the things you can join up midyear.

00:48:30.235 --> 00:48:33.115
I'm gonna do a pitch competition so you can do those kind of late.

00:48:33.385 --> 00:48:33.416
Okay.

00:48:33.416 --> 00:48:35.755
So it's not a role play or a case study.

00:48:36.266 --> 00:48:39.476
It's one of those where you can go in, it's a qualifier kinda Right.

00:48:39.476 --> 00:48:42.385
You go straight to state, you submit a 20 page presentation.

00:48:42.391 --> 00:48:42.661
Oh, wow.

00:48:42.775 --> 00:48:45.775
So, so I do that, um, zero expectations for that.

00:48:45.775 --> 00:48:50.695
Again, I, I turn out that I'm a finalist, but I don't make it to, to internationals.

00:48:50.695 --> 00:48:51.476
I'm like, okay, whatever.

00:48:51.655 --> 00:48:51.775
Yeah.

00:48:51.775 --> 00:48:52.976
I didn't have any expectations for this.

00:48:53.186 --> 00:48:56.335
So I continue on, make more friends, you know?

00:48:56.936 --> 00:49:03.056
But, but what that, what that taught me in, in Switzerland, what Switzerland taught me was how to drink the Kool-Aid.

00:49:03.416 --> 00:49:06.896
'cause you're with 50 people in such a course.

00:49:06.896 --> 00:49:07.646
Experience it.

00:49:07.646 --> 00:49:08.456
I didn't have a phone.

00:49:08.846 --> 00:49:09.266
Oh, wow.

00:49:09.295 --> 00:49:10.465
Like there's no technology.

00:49:10.646 --> 00:49:11.155
Oh, dang.

00:49:11.155 --> 00:49:13.436
So I, I handwritten, I hand wrote everything.

00:49:13.436 --> 00:49:18.085
Like I, I learned to love stuff and, and like to really get into things.

00:49:18.085 --> 00:49:18.146
Yeah.

00:49:19.135 --> 00:49:21.235
So that like, kind of taught me how to drink the Kool-Aid.

00:49:21.715 --> 00:49:23.306
So fast forward, yeah.

00:49:23.545 --> 00:49:26.155
We're gonna skip kind of over my spring semester'cause nothing really happened.

00:49:26.215 --> 00:49:26.425
Yeah.

00:49:26.965 --> 00:49:33.235
We're now into junior year and Henny, who's a year above me, also learned how to drink the Kool-Aid.

00:49:33.266 --> 00:49:33.655
Okay.

00:49:33.655 --> 00:49:36.925
She's now running and she she's been involved that year you were gone.

00:49:36.925 --> 00:49:37.166
Right.

00:49:37.226 --> 00:49:39.896
She is now running for that position.

00:49:39.956 --> 00:49:40.436
Okay.

00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:43.451
That I thought, thought was, that I thought was ridiculous.

00:49:43.451 --> 00:49:48.280
The super dork or No, she now has it, she now has the super dork position and she wants you to join her team.

00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:50.530
Well, and and I'm like, okay, well now he's doing it.

00:49:50.771 --> 00:49:51.760
I might as well do it.

00:49:51.791 --> 00:49:54.701
'cause I trust her and like she, she's inspired me to do all these things.

00:49:54.706 --> 00:49:54.996
She's not a dork.

00:49:55.016 --> 00:49:57.400
So maybe it's, she's not a do, maybe it's not dork.

00:49:57.490 --> 00:50:02.800
Like she's doing all these cool things and inspiring all these people and, and doing amazing things.

00:50:02.891 --> 00:50:03.041
Yeah.

00:50:03.041 --> 00:50:03.041
Yeah.

00:50:03.221 --> 00:50:04.181
So I'm like, I'm gonna do it.

00:50:04.601 --> 00:50:06.311
So I decided to go out there and do it.

00:50:06.521 --> 00:50:08.800
I compete in my, in all my usual events.

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.090
I do entrepreneurship, I do bad at it.

00:50:13.235 --> 00:50:17.396
I, I don't even, I, I qualify for state, but I don't even make it as a finalist.

00:50:17.396 --> 00:50:17.440
Yeah.

00:50:17.471 --> 00:50:20.501
I don't make it to internationals, but I get the super dork position.

00:50:20.505 --> 00:50:21.400
Right, right.

00:50:21.405 --> 00:50:22.556
And I, I, now you're an organizer.

00:50:22.675 --> 00:50:24.101
I start to drink the Kool-Aid even more.

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.590
And, and Heni, she goes on to do amazing things.

00:50:26.590 --> 00:50:27.851
She's at UCLA right now.

00:50:28.121 --> 00:50:29.170
Okay, fantastic.

00:50:29.260 --> 00:50:29.530
Yeah.

00:50:29.530 --> 00:50:29.532
Yeah.

00:50:29.710 --> 00:50:30.791
And, uh.

00:50:31.391 --> 00:50:32.351
Do you have a crush on her, by the way?

00:50:32.380 --> 00:50:32.951
No, I do not.

00:50:32.951 --> 00:50:33.041
Okay.

00:50:33.041 --> 00:50:33.190
Checking.

00:50:35.201 --> 00:50:36.521
She's just, she's a mentor.

00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:37.090
Right.

00:50:37.090 --> 00:50:37.181
Fair.

00:50:37.181 --> 00:50:37.990
We'll, we'll give it that.

00:50:38.050 --> 00:50:38.260
Yeah.

00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:45.070
Um, I, I go on, I get the super dork position, and now I'm organizing, and over the summer I learn some amazing things, you know?

00:50:45.070 --> 00:50:45.190
Yeah.

00:50:45.221 --> 00:50:49.811
Like, they teach me how to be a leader and organizational stuff, how to delegate all those great things.

00:50:50.141 --> 00:50:53.440
And then we move on to, uh, through the school year.

00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:54.010
Okay.

00:50:54.041 --> 00:50:55.090
Now I'm leading competitions.

00:50:55.090 --> 00:51:02.141
You have your successor coming up to now, now my successor is coming up and I'm actually meeting with her this weekend.

00:51:02.201 --> 00:51:02.411
Yeah.

00:51:02.411 --> 00:51:05.146
I'm giving her my Instagram password and Yeah.

00:51:05.351 --> 00:51:05.501
Yeah.

00:51:05.561 --> 00:51:06.911
Gonna, here's the torch, right?

00:51:06.911 --> 00:51:07.271
Yeah.

00:51:07.271 --> 00:51:07.690
Kind of.

00:51:07.695 --> 00:51:09.431
And then I'm stepping away, then I'm done.

00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:10.181
Yeah.

00:51:10.181 --> 00:51:11.831
I'm, I'm actually kind of glad that it's over.

00:51:11.891 --> 00:51:12.251
Yeah.

00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:13.121
But it's a lot of work.

00:51:13.121 --> 00:51:17.831
How many hours do you think you put in this last, say, 12 months from right now?

00:51:18.610 --> 00:51:20.981
Probably seven a week.

00:51:21.161 --> 00:51:22.001
Seven hours a week.

00:51:22.001 --> 00:51:22.661
For a year.

00:51:22.721 --> 00:51:23.201
Yeah.

00:51:23.201 --> 00:51:23.202
Yeah.

00:51:23.681 --> 00:51:25.030
That's not unsubstantial.

00:51:25.030 --> 00:51:26.440
And then during the events and stuff, it's.

00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:27.940
I mean much more.

00:51:28.121 --> 00:51:30.521
It was probably 16.

00:51:30.911 --> 00:51:31.271
Right?

00:51:31.721 --> 00:51:32.860
That's a lot for each day.

00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:33.371
Yeah.

00:51:33.371 --> 00:51:33.431
Yeah.

00:51:33.820 --> 00:51:38.471
It's a lot of work, but, uh, a lot of emails, lot of, yeah.

00:51:38.501 --> 00:51:39.581
Lot of un responded.

00:51:39.596 --> 00:51:41.650
Communications a lot of unresponded to emails.

00:51:41.681 --> 00:51:41.951
Yeah.

00:51:42.340 --> 00:51:43.871
Um, hopefully I wasn't one of those people.

00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:44.471
No, not yet.

00:51:44.476 --> 00:51:44.596
Okay.

00:51:44.596 --> 00:51:44.755
Good.

00:51:45.190 --> 00:51:48.340
Um, mostly, uh, other people.

00:51:48.371 --> 00:51:48.701
Yeah.

00:51:48.791 --> 00:51:50.920
But like, you learn a lot of things.

00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.311
You meet all these people and you, you do all this stuff and you have great experiences.

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:54.400
Yeah.

00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.150
And then you go on and then you pass on the torch and now I'm done.

00:51:58.210 --> 00:51:58.570
Yeah.

00:51:58.570 --> 00:51:58.572
Yeah.

00:51:58.572 --> 00:51:58.572
Yeah.

00:51:58.780 --> 00:51:59.291
And that's it.

00:51:59.351 --> 00:52:00.431
And that's how I'm here.

00:52:00.581 --> 00:52:00.971
I dig it.

00:52:01.240 --> 00:52:01.541
I dig it.

00:52:01.900 --> 00:52:02.561
Well, thanks for being here.

00:52:02.561 --> 00:52:03.911
I think we should take a quick break.

00:52:03.971 --> 00:52:04.210
Yeah.

00:52:04.481 --> 00:52:09.101
And then we'll come back into some of our closing segments and uh, go from there.

00:52:09.371 --> 00:52:09.641
Okay.

00:52:59.132 --> 00:52:59.882
And we're back.

00:53:00.391 --> 00:53:07.052
Um, so I guess a first question coming back from the break is, uh, what questions do you have for me?

00:53:07.052 --> 00:53:10.771
Like, I've been peppering you, I, you know, you know my background a little bit.

00:53:10.771 --> 00:53:11.972
I was a banker for a long time.

00:53:11.972 --> 00:53:12.032
Yeah.

00:53:12.032 --> 00:53:14.222
But small business, not big business.

00:53:14.222 --> 00:53:18.961
Uhhuh kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum of what your dad's been involved with, for example.

00:53:19.382 --> 00:53:20.911
Um, what questions do you have for me?

00:53:20.911 --> 00:53:23.371
Maybe about small business in general?

00:53:23.552 --> 00:53:31.831
Um, I, you kind of asked this question a lot about your people, so I'm gonna ask you, what's your kind secret sauce?

00:53:31.952 --> 00:53:32.882
What do you My secret sauce?

00:53:32.882 --> 00:53:32.972
Yeah.

00:53:32.972 --> 00:53:33.961
What do you like to do?

00:53:34.742 --> 00:53:36.391
Like, what, how do you find your success?

00:53:36.391 --> 00:53:37.802
How do I add value to the world?

00:53:37.806 --> 00:53:37.976
Yeah.

00:53:38.396 --> 00:53:39.257
Um huh.

00:53:39.362 --> 00:53:40.262
That's an interesting question.

00:53:40.501 --> 00:53:45.242
You know, I think probably I'm discerning about people.

00:53:45.871 --> 00:53:54.961
Um, you know, as a banker, I could tell who had that combination of like personal horsepower and a good idea that they could make money on so that they could pay the bank back.

00:53:55.081 --> 00:53:55.351
Mm-hmm.

00:53:55.681 --> 00:54:07.652
Um, and within my role at Loco Think Tank, you know, finding people that will fit well and add value to chapters, um, my special talent is identifying special talent I've said before.

00:54:08.132 --> 00:54:08.702
Yeah, that's good.

00:54:08.702 --> 00:54:09.121
You know?

00:54:09.152 --> 00:54:09.422
Yeah.

00:54:09.512 --> 00:54:20.222
And I've always had an easier time recruiting smart people to work for me or with me, or in the case of our chapter facilitators, you know, to be part of the team even though I don't pay'em that much, you know?

00:54:20.222 --> 00:54:20.311
Right.

00:54:20.371 --> 00:54:22.021
But they're awesome and I love them.

00:54:22.561 --> 00:54:22.802
Yeah.

00:54:22.802 --> 00:54:23.641
No, that's, yeah.

00:54:23.641 --> 00:54:24.061
That's great.

00:54:24.061 --> 00:54:25.172
Yeah, so that's probably.

00:54:25.757 --> 00:54:27.947
Where I probably add the most value to things.

00:54:28.217 --> 00:54:28.487
Yeah.

00:54:28.516 --> 00:54:28.847
Okay.

00:54:29.117 --> 00:54:36.047
And then I guess kind of my other question is, if you weren't doing the Loco think tank right now, what would you be doing right now?

00:54:36.556 --> 00:54:41.476
Like, if I had to go get a job, if, if, let's say everything didn't work out the way that it was working out.

00:54:41.507 --> 00:54:41.927
Yeah, yeah.

00:54:41.987 --> 00:54:43.097
How would it be working out?

00:54:43.367 --> 00:54:43.757
Mm-hmm.

00:54:45.021 --> 00:54:50.177
You know, I guess my emergency plan would probably to become a banker again.

00:54:50.237 --> 00:54:50.567
Yeah.

00:54:50.626 --> 00:54:51.077
Right.

00:54:51.077 --> 00:54:58.036
Like I, I know I could be a pretty good banker without too much, you know, I know the, I know the job, right?

00:54:58.036 --> 00:54:59.117
I know a lot of people.

00:54:59.117 --> 00:55:02.117
You got the background, I got the background and I got most of the skillset.

00:55:02.177 --> 00:55:07.918
You know, I don't really wanna do the spreads anymore, so make sure we've got a credit analyst or something to do some of that kind of leg work.

00:55:08.056 --> 00:55:10.067
But, you know, I could definitely do that.

00:55:10.067 --> 00:55:12.856
I wouldn't be eager about it.

00:55:12.887 --> 00:55:12.976
Right.

00:55:13.126 --> 00:55:17.356
Um, oh yeah, I have to give all this up and go back to, yeah.

00:55:17.356 --> 00:55:17.416
Yeah.

00:55:17.416 --> 00:55:17.802
What numbers?

00:55:18.137 --> 00:55:19.277
You know, sadly, I.

00:55:19.561 --> 00:55:26.192
In the last five years or so, my, uh, my voice has gone downhill so I can no longer expect to win.

00:55:26.192 --> 00:55:30.632
Like America's Got talent for my immaculate singing skills or anything like that.

00:55:31.052 --> 00:55:32.552
Don't have the range anymore.

00:55:32.672 --> 00:55:35.523
I mean, you were just, you sang for us earlier, that was pretty bad.

00:55:35.527 --> 00:55:41.791
Well, I, I'm not saying I don't have mad skills, but it just isn't quite into the making money territory, right?

00:55:41.791 --> 00:55:41.911
Yeah.

00:55:41.972 --> 00:55:43.862
Uh, plus all the travel and stuff.

00:55:43.862 --> 00:55:51.541
My wife would be like over it pretty quickly on that, um, Twitter media sensation, you know, something like that.

00:55:51.541 --> 00:55:52.862
I could, I could see you as an influencer.

00:55:52.891 --> 00:55:58.922
Yeah, just like find videos of people doing dumb things and add my commentary on top of those videos.

00:55:58.922 --> 00:55:59.851
You got that radio voice.

00:55:59.851 --> 00:56:05.461
Have Ava be my producer and be like, you guys, you'll never guess what happened today.

00:56:06.871 --> 00:56:08.956
Uh, no, that's probably not me today on the internet.

00:56:08.956 --> 00:56:10.862
I don't really like criticizing people, honestly.

00:56:10.862 --> 00:56:12.391
Like even when they're dumb.

00:56:12.797 --> 00:56:15.047
Like, I just kind of like, oh, you're being dumb.

00:56:15.556 --> 00:56:17.806
Uh, but I don't prefer to point it out directly.

00:56:18.166 --> 00:56:19.876
You wouldn't really add much value in that way?

00:56:20.237 --> 00:56:21.677
No, not really.

00:56:21.677 --> 00:56:25.161
I mean, well, I could recognize special UNT talent when I see, there we go too.

00:56:25.302 --> 00:56:25.521
Go.

00:56:25.942 --> 00:56:29.297
So I guess I could just use the reverse polarity of my special.

00:56:29.536 --> 00:56:29.597
Yeah.

00:56:29.597 --> 00:56:32.717
Well what if you were to just be like a, like a scout or something?

00:56:33.166 --> 00:56:35.146
Like a scout, like a, like a talent scout.

00:56:35.626 --> 00:56:36.166
Oh yeah.

00:56:36.166 --> 00:56:36.677
Maybe.

00:56:37.217 --> 00:56:40.277
But if you're good, if you're, but there's no media anymore.

00:56:40.306 --> 00:56:40.936
Hardly.

00:56:40.967 --> 00:56:41.387
That's true.

00:56:41.416 --> 00:56:47.686
I guess in Hollywood's reeling, like, I don't think they got room really for a startup talent scout with no experience, I guess.

00:56:47.686 --> 00:56:47.927
Yeah.

00:56:48.827 --> 00:56:49.786
I could start my own firm.

00:56:53.297 --> 00:56:54.226
I'll get you the best.

00:56:54.226 --> 00:57:00.197
Uh, you know, I, I guess that would be an interesting thing actually, would be like executive recruitment or something like that.

00:57:00.197 --> 00:57:00.481
Yeah, there you go.

00:57:00.481 --> 00:57:01.277
You could be a headhunter.

00:57:01.367 --> 00:57:01.726
Yeah.

00:57:02.086 --> 00:57:04.067
That, that's actually would be pretty fun work.

00:57:04.396 --> 00:57:05.836
Um, although miserable, like.

00:57:06.226 --> 00:57:06.527
Yeah.

00:57:06.527 --> 00:57:10.547
A lot of people, people, people turn you down like, nah, I'm good where I'm at Right.

00:57:10.547 --> 00:57:11.206
All the time.

00:57:11.237 --> 00:57:11.597
Right.

00:57:11.657 --> 00:57:16.427
So, I don't know, be just poaching MDs from a, from different profess.

00:57:16.427 --> 00:57:19.847
Well, I don't know if I can recognize talent in the doctor perfe.

00:57:19.907 --> 00:57:21.737
Like, it feels more like the, the managing directors are.

00:57:21.766 --> 00:57:23.266
Oh, yes.

00:57:23.447 --> 00:57:26.476
Well, the people I don't, I know don't, aren't MDs.

00:57:26.476 --> 00:57:26.896
They're like.

00:57:27.481 --> 00:57:28.411
General managers.

00:57:28.681 --> 00:57:28.891
Okay.

00:57:28.891 --> 00:57:29.041
Yeah.

00:57:29.041 --> 00:57:30.692
You know, or owners.

00:57:30.692 --> 00:57:32.431
Or founders and in other places.

00:57:32.431 --> 00:57:32.521
Right.

00:57:32.521 --> 00:57:36.871
But most of my network has owned businesses for 10 to 20 years, and so they're nearly unemployable.

00:57:36.871 --> 00:57:39.452
So I can't really rely on my existing network.

00:57:40.141 --> 00:57:41.072
So I don't know.

00:57:41.342 --> 00:57:41.641
I don't know.

00:57:42.452 --> 00:57:46.021
Um, let's go into our, uh, we touched a little bit.

00:57:46.081 --> 00:57:48.601
We, we always talk about faith, family, politics, right?

00:57:48.751 --> 00:57:53.161
And that's kinda just my flavor of saying, you know, we shouldn't have things that we don't talk about in the world.

00:57:53.641 --> 00:57:57.061
Um, let's talk a little bit more about your family, if you don't mind starting there.

00:57:57.092 --> 00:57:57.152
Okay.

00:57:57.152 --> 00:57:57.211
Yeah.

00:57:57.242 --> 00:57:58.802
Um, let's talk about your sisters.

00:57:58.952 --> 00:57:59.222
Okay.

00:57:59.492 --> 00:58:03.181
We haven't, uh, done much, uh, but mentioned that they got born.

00:58:03.541 --> 00:58:03.902
Yeah.

00:58:04.021 --> 00:58:06.512
And they're five and two and a half years younger or something like that.

00:58:06.541 --> 00:58:06.722
Yeah.

00:58:06.766 --> 00:58:08.106
So Helen is.

00:58:08.521 --> 00:58:11.072
Uh, oh my gosh, I'm a terrible brother.

00:58:11.132 --> 00:58:11.641
15.

00:58:12.992 --> 00:58:13.802
Uh, no, 16.

00:58:13.802 --> 00:58:14.251
Sorry.

00:58:15.032 --> 00:58:21.121
Uh, because there's like, uh, yeah, there's a time you almost just three on, just, just under three years.

00:58:21.452 --> 00:58:22.891
So she just got her license.

00:58:23.641 --> 00:58:24.961
Driving with her is terrifying.

00:58:26.342 --> 00:58:26.371
Okay.

00:58:26.371 --> 00:58:27.061
Not that scary.

00:58:27.121 --> 00:58:27.722
I'm just kidding.

00:58:27.782 --> 00:58:27.931
Yeah.

00:58:28.291 --> 00:58:31.291
Um, well, any new driver's a little bit scary, but Nah, she's good.

00:58:31.291 --> 00:58:31.831
She's a good driver.

00:58:31.831 --> 00:58:32.101
Yeah.

00:58:32.461 --> 00:58:33.751
Um, yeah.

00:58:33.751 --> 00:58:36.302
So how, is she like a good friend to you or is she She's great.

00:58:36.306 --> 00:58:36.686
Got her own friends.

00:58:36.692 --> 00:58:37.891
My sisters are my best friends.

00:58:37.981 --> 00:58:38.192
Oh, good.

00:58:38.192 --> 00:58:39.692
Honestly, I love them so much.

00:58:39.722 --> 00:58:39.931
I love it.

00:58:39.931 --> 00:58:40.262
They're great.

00:58:40.262 --> 00:58:41.402
They support me in everything.

00:58:41.942 --> 00:58:45.061
Um, I think that they're the greatest people on earth.

00:58:45.152 --> 00:58:46.771
You think they'll be more successful than you?

00:58:47.342 --> 00:58:47.822
They could be.

00:58:48.181 --> 00:58:50.012
Honestly, we see how the fates go.

00:58:50.041 --> 00:58:50.251
Yeah.

00:58:50.251 --> 00:58:51.902
We'll see how, we'll see how it turns out.

00:58:52.021 --> 00:58:52.052
Okay.

00:58:52.206 --> 00:58:54.422
I I, I hope that they are.

00:58:54.481 --> 00:58:54.811
Yeah.

00:58:55.021 --> 00:58:55.831
I'm gonna be honest.

00:58:55.831 --> 00:58:56.251
I like that.

00:58:56.327 --> 00:58:56.686
I like that.

00:58:56.731 --> 00:58:57.302
Uh.

00:58:57.632 --> 00:58:58.802
Yeah, Helen is great.

00:58:58.952 --> 00:59:00.001
She's doing her own stuff.

00:59:00.061 --> 00:59:01.922
She just got back from studying abroad.

00:59:02.101 --> 00:59:02.431
Okay.

00:59:02.461 --> 00:59:03.391
Also in Switzerland.

00:59:03.422 --> 00:59:03.811
Oh wow.

00:59:03.992 --> 00:59:05.282
So same program.

00:59:05.282 --> 00:59:05.882
Same thing.

00:59:05.887 --> 00:59:06.097
Yeah.

00:59:06.101 --> 00:59:06.302
Yeah.

00:59:06.362 --> 00:59:08.431
No phone, no computer.

00:59:08.492 --> 00:59:09.092
Oh wow.

00:59:09.271 --> 00:59:10.052
No technology.

00:59:10.052 --> 00:59:11.911
So all that, she just got back from that.

00:59:11.911 --> 00:59:13.172
She had a great time as well.

00:59:13.922 --> 00:59:15.782
Super successful in that program.

00:59:15.786 --> 00:59:15.797
Yeah.

00:59:15.797 --> 00:59:17.822
So, yeah, that's a neat thing.

00:59:17.822 --> 00:59:18.661
Glad that she's glad that she's back home.

00:59:18.722 --> 00:59:32.791
And was that something that your family had else was been exposed to or you found it and she, you had a great time and so it's actually a really funny, not that funny, but like, it's funny to us, we used to go to camp for a month in the wilderness.

00:59:32.822 --> 00:59:33.211
Okay.

00:59:33.871 --> 00:59:35.012
In covered wagons.

00:59:35.101 --> 00:59:37.291
Covered like Conestoga wagons, like on trail.

00:59:37.592 --> 00:59:43.262
We'd sleep in there for a month and while, while we were gone, our parents would get to beach, not have you there for a month.

00:59:43.411 --> 00:59:43.501
Right.

00:59:43.592 --> 00:59:43.891
Yeah.

00:59:44.762 --> 00:59:49.411
So, uh, they were in Vail or Beaver Creek or something?

00:59:49.411 --> 00:59:49.666
Yeah, yeah.

00:59:49.802 --> 00:59:51.032
On a weekend trip or something.

00:59:51.391 --> 00:59:56.521
And they were, there was also this conference.

00:59:56.927 --> 00:59:59.237
Of like American cardiologists.

00:59:59.626 --> 00:59:59.777
Yeah.

00:59:59.836 --> 01:00:09.077
And they were in the hot, my parents were in the hot tub and these two New York cardiologists get in and they start doing the small talk thing like, oh, do you have kids?

01:00:09.077 --> 01:00:09.527
Yeah.

01:00:09.797 --> 01:00:11.206
One's just starting freshman year.

01:00:11.206 --> 01:00:12.827
And that was when I was just starting freshman year.

01:00:12.827 --> 01:00:12.887
Yeah.

01:00:13.186 --> 01:00:13.847
Oh my gosh.

01:00:13.847 --> 01:00:16.246
You starting freshman year, you have to hear about this program.

01:00:16.367 --> 01:00:17.416
It's called Swiss Semester.

01:00:17.626 --> 01:00:18.737
They study abroad in Switzerland.

01:00:18.887 --> 01:00:20.836
And my mom was like, oh my gosh, that's so great.

01:00:21.077 --> 01:00:23.717
And they're like, our daughter's getting in, she's going next year.

01:00:24.016 --> 01:00:25.876
And like, it just was so, oh wow.

01:00:25.907 --> 01:00:28.547
Like kind of serendipitous where like it just worked out.

01:00:28.786 --> 01:00:34.817
And then my parents picked us up two weeks later and they're like, Edward, this sounds incredible, you know, for this thing, you should, you should research this.

01:00:34.817 --> 01:00:39.827
Like, they weren't, they didn't say I had to do it, but like, they gave us, they gave me the link and I'm like, oh my gosh, this sounds incredible.

01:00:40.067 --> 01:00:42.646
I called like, I networked with the.

01:00:43.231 --> 01:00:46.742
With like the head of the program, I'm like, Hey, my name is Otra Reinhardt, like, I'm interested in your program.

01:00:47.251 --> 01:00:48.481
Can I talk to some people?

01:00:48.481 --> 01:00:48.541
Yeah.

01:00:48.541 --> 01:00:50.431
And he gave me like 10 phone numbers.

01:00:50.702 --> 01:00:54.992
I called three of'em, had great conversations with them, and I'm like, I'm doing it.

01:00:55.052 --> 01:00:55.291
Done.

01:00:55.532 --> 01:00:55.952
That's it.

01:00:56.161 --> 01:01:00.152
And then I, well, I applied, I got in, well, you got a Swiss name, right.

01:01:00.302 --> 01:01:01.711
Got tree, all that right.

01:01:01.802 --> 01:01:03.092
And then my sister did the same thing.

01:01:03.092 --> 01:01:04.592
She found out it was right for her.

01:01:04.711 --> 01:01:05.012
Yeah.

01:01:05.192 --> 01:01:05.731
Applied.

01:01:05.882 --> 01:01:06.302
Really cool.

01:01:06.302 --> 01:01:06.692
Successful.

01:01:06.692 --> 01:01:08.041
Do you think little sister will do it too?

01:01:08.132 --> 01:01:08.612
Maybe.

01:01:08.972 --> 01:01:10.262
Um, and tell me more about her.

01:01:10.351 --> 01:01:12.782
So she is 14.

01:01:13.052 --> 01:01:13.382
Okay.

01:01:13.652 --> 01:01:13.922
Nope.

01:01:14.282 --> 01:01:15.061
Yes.

01:01:15.242 --> 01:01:15.722
14.

01:01:15.871 --> 01:01:16.592
No, she's 14.

01:01:16.652 --> 01:01:16.952
All right.

01:01:17.132 --> 01:01:19.262
Again, I, I feel like they are 10.

01:01:19.862 --> 01:01:20.431
In my mind.

01:01:20.461 --> 01:01:20.552
Yeah.

01:01:20.597 --> 01:01:20.797
Yeah.

01:01:20.802 --> 01:01:24.601
Um, she's 14 and I feel like she's gonna be president one day.

01:01:24.902 --> 01:01:25.141
Okay.

01:01:25.172 --> 01:01:27.422
Um, she is so opinionated.

01:01:27.481 --> 01:01:28.621
Oh, she, no.

01:01:28.621 --> 01:01:29.851
In like, the best way possible.

01:01:29.851 --> 01:01:32.643
Well, I mean, this plays confidence for somebody of that age, right?

01:01:32.648 --> 01:01:34.021
She is so opinionated.

01:01:34.021 --> 01:01:36.692
She's so like headstrong.

01:01:37.112 --> 01:01:38.402
Um, she's wonderful.

01:01:38.822 --> 01:01:41.402
Uh, she just got her first boyfriend.

01:01:41.461 --> 01:01:41.882
Ooh.

01:01:42.181 --> 01:01:46.442
Which is kind of, is it scary for Big Brother or are you, you're just like, oh, I do whatever you want.

01:01:46.532 --> 01:01:47.222
I'm worried.

01:01:47.222 --> 01:01:51.032
Have you gone to the boy in the background and been like, listen, not at all.

01:01:51.061 --> 01:01:53.222
Do best treat what's, what's her name again?

01:01:53.521 --> 01:01:54.061
Eliza.

01:01:54.061 --> 01:01:54.782
Eliza.

01:01:54.961 --> 01:01:57.661
Um, I, I think that she can handle herself.

01:01:58.411 --> 01:01:59.161
You're not worried about her?

01:01:59.192 --> 01:02:00.181
No, I'm not worried about her.

01:02:00.181 --> 01:02:01.172
I think she'll be all right.

01:02:01.231 --> 01:02:04.472
Uh, but it is a little like, whoa.

01:02:04.621 --> 01:02:05.731
This is kind of crazy.

01:02:05.762 --> 01:02:05.972
Yeah.

01:02:06.362 --> 01:02:08.552
Um, but she loves it.

01:02:09.121 --> 01:02:11.222
Like, like being the littlest.

01:02:11.251 --> 01:02:11.581
Yeah.

01:02:11.581 --> 01:02:11.641
Yeah.

01:02:11.641 --> 01:02:13.952
I think I like getting to see us.

01:02:14.132 --> 01:02:17.911
My mom likes to say she came out of the womb talking in full paragraphs.

01:02:18.001 --> 01:02:18.211
Right.

01:02:18.211 --> 01:02:20.615
Because she just saw us and just been studying you guys forever.

01:02:20.621 --> 01:02:22.442
Just been trying to catch up ever since.

01:02:22.621 --> 01:02:22.952
Yeah.

01:02:22.952 --> 01:02:22.952
Yeah.

01:02:23.161 --> 01:02:24.961
Uh, nice example.

01:02:25.112 --> 01:02:27.061
Uh, but she's so smart.

01:02:27.061 --> 01:02:28.262
She's way smarter than me.

01:02:28.291 --> 01:02:28.592
Yeah.

01:02:28.652 --> 01:02:31.141
Like just add a could be better at math if she wants to.

01:02:31.141 --> 01:02:32.492
Out of base intelligence.

01:02:32.731 --> 01:02:32.972
Yeah.

01:02:32.972 --> 01:02:32.972
Yeah.

01:02:32.996 --> 01:02:35.137
She just core processor speed.

01:02:35.206 --> 01:02:36.452
Just so much smarter.

01:02:36.541 --> 01:02:39.692
Which matters a lot less than you think.

01:02:39.692 --> 01:02:39.782
Right.

01:02:39.842 --> 01:02:52.262
Just so you know, like, no, I, I'm not intimidated, like, but you were talking about calc and stuff and be a little scared about the math thing as you study, but the, there could well be just a tipping point where it just starts to make better sense.

01:02:52.442 --> 01:02:52.802
Right.

01:02:53.041 --> 01:02:55.262
And, uh, so don't give up hope on that.

01:02:55.291 --> 01:02:55.862
Oh no, I'm not.

01:02:55.862 --> 01:02:56.672
Even if you're a little slow.

01:02:56.672 --> 01:02:57.121
I'm not, I'm not done.

01:02:57.121 --> 01:02:58.141
I'm not, I don't think you're slow.

01:02:58.141 --> 01:02:58.681
I'm not giving up.

01:02:58.681 --> 01:03:00.661
You're way over a hundred on the IQ thing.

01:03:00.661 --> 01:03:01.621
I'm not giving up yet.

01:03:01.626 --> 01:03:02.762
I'm, I'm still there.

01:03:02.762 --> 01:03:03.992
But she is, she is like.

01:03:04.351 --> 01:03:05.192
Wicked smart.

01:03:05.192 --> 01:03:06.422
She's super opinionated.

01:03:06.422 --> 01:03:08.041
Like catch all the things.

01:03:08.461 --> 01:03:13.172
Um, your mom, uh, also, well, she's Betsy.

01:03:13.291 --> 01:03:13.802
So Betsy.

01:03:13.922 --> 01:03:14.402
Hi Betsy.

01:03:14.731 --> 01:03:16.262
You'll probably listen to this, I suspect.

01:03:16.322 --> 01:03:18.092
So there's Eliza and Betsy.

01:03:18.092 --> 01:03:19.081
They're both Elizabeth.

01:03:19.141 --> 01:03:19.592
Oh, sure.

01:03:19.802 --> 01:03:22.532
Um, born in Louisiana, new Orleans.

01:03:22.547 --> 01:03:23.461
Does she talk funny?

01:03:23.822 --> 01:03:24.842
No, not anymore.

01:03:24.931 --> 01:03:25.472
Never.

01:03:25.532 --> 01:03:25.922
Never.

01:03:25.922 --> 01:03:26.851
She was kind of, never did.

01:03:26.851 --> 01:03:27.661
She was a city girl.

01:03:27.782 --> 01:03:28.501
Uh, yes.

01:03:28.501 --> 01:03:31.081
This not the country Creole, like I'm Yeah.

01:03:32.072 --> 01:03:32.972
You down, down there swamp?

01:03:33.777 --> 01:03:35.041
No, no, no.

01:03:35.041 --> 01:03:37.532
She's, uh, just New Orleans.

01:03:37.922 --> 01:03:40.952
Um, we, massive family on her side.

01:03:41.536 --> 01:03:43.592
Um, uh, she.

01:03:44.192 --> 01:03:46.052
Did really like Catholics or something.

01:03:46.141 --> 01:03:48.842
I mean, we are Catholic, but that's just, you know, big family.

01:03:48.931 --> 01:03:49.202
Yeah.

01:03:49.262 --> 01:03:53.251
I was just, there's certain religions, especially that tend to have bigger families.

01:03:53.251 --> 01:03:53.552
Right.

01:03:53.552 --> 01:03:55.081
If they're from Utah, then they're Mormons.

01:03:55.081 --> 01:03:56.762
If they're from, we're we're Spanish.

01:03:57.211 --> 01:03:57.541
Oh, really?

01:03:57.871 --> 01:03:58.052
Yeah.

01:03:58.532 --> 01:04:00.032
I don't know, like what that really entails.

01:04:00.331 --> 01:04:01.652
Well, most Spanish are Catholic.

01:04:01.681 --> 01:04:01.952
Yeah.

01:04:01.981 --> 01:04:05.431
You know, so, so her, so her mom was Bonos.

01:04:05.552 --> 01:04:05.882
Oh.

01:04:06.061 --> 01:04:06.512
Or de bans.

01:04:06.871 --> 01:04:07.172
Okay.

01:04:07.172 --> 01:04:08.282
Like originating for de Bonos.

01:04:08.311 --> 01:04:08.461
Yeah.

01:04:08.911 --> 01:04:11.641
And then, uh, her dad was Vin, which is French.

01:04:11.911 --> 01:04:12.242
Okay.

01:04:12.391 --> 01:04:16.981
Um, and they, so Po Devin was like New Orleans Yeah.

01:04:17.041 --> 01:04:17.791
Royalty.

01:04:17.791 --> 01:04:18.362
Right.

01:04:18.391 --> 01:04:21.181
So they, so I don't know if you're familiar with Mardi Gras?

01:04:21.271 --> 01:04:21.751
Little bit?

01:04:22.231 --> 01:04:24.811
You know, I haven't been, but do you know I just came from there actually.

01:04:24.811 --> 01:04:25.231
Oh, cool.

01:04:25.291 --> 01:04:27.572
Do you know the, uh, the crew of Rex?

01:04:27.661 --> 01:04:27.961
Mm-hmm.

01:04:28.291 --> 01:04:32.072
That's like the Mardi Gras parade.

01:04:32.132 --> 01:04:33.032
Like the Okay.

01:04:33.032 --> 01:04:34.291
They, they call'em crews.

01:04:34.351 --> 01:04:34.831
Okay.

01:04:34.981 --> 01:04:35.552
Um.

01:04:36.722 --> 01:04:40.382
I have had, I'm directly related to three kings of Mardi Gras.

01:04:40.561 --> 01:04:41.342
Oh, interesting.

01:04:41.581 --> 01:04:43.172
Which makes me New Orleans royalty.

01:04:43.172 --> 01:04:43.742
Interesting.

01:04:43.922 --> 01:04:45.047
It doesn't really matter anymore.

01:04:45.047 --> 01:04:48.692
So after you're 21, you'll like get to ride one of those floats or something?

01:04:48.697 --> 01:04:49.681
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:04:49.681 --> 01:04:50.882
It doesn't really matter.

01:04:51.001 --> 01:04:51.152
Right.

01:04:51.152 --> 01:04:51.931
It's all fake.

01:04:52.021 --> 01:04:59.641
Uh, my great grandmother always liked to say one day your royalty and you're into the paper, and then the next day they're wrapping you up in the fishes.

01:05:00.211 --> 01:05:00.871
It don't matter.

01:05:00.871 --> 01:05:05.461
'cause because you're in the newspaper and then they're using your paper to wrap the fishes up.

01:05:05.461 --> 01:05:05.791
You Yeah.

01:05:05.822 --> 01:05:08.246
So it, it's really, it's that 15 minutes of fame, basically.

01:05:08.251 --> 01:05:08.822
It's all fake.

01:05:08.882 --> 01:05:09.181
Right.

01:05:09.181 --> 01:05:09.992
Like, enjoy it.

01:05:09.992 --> 01:05:11.702
But at the of the day, it doesn't matter.

01:05:11.702 --> 01:05:12.121
Interesting.

01:05:12.271 --> 01:05:14.072
So that's kind of like her.

01:05:14.077 --> 01:05:14.286
Yeah.

01:05:14.291 --> 01:05:14.672
Yeah.

01:05:14.672 --> 01:05:16.382
She grew up in this real like New Orleans.

01:05:16.382 --> 01:05:16.442
Yeah.

01:05:16.442 --> 01:05:19.501
Almost the Aristos C and this, like this New Orleans bubble.

01:05:19.561 --> 01:05:20.072
Yeah.

01:05:20.072 --> 01:05:20.072
Yeah.

01:05:20.192 --> 01:05:27.541
But her, my, my grandfather had this really great perspective of, this isn't everything.

01:05:27.722 --> 01:05:28.922
Go out and see the world.

01:05:28.952 --> 01:05:29.177
Mm mm-hmm.

01:05:29.342 --> 01:05:31.052
So she went to the University of Virginia.

01:05:31.141 --> 01:05:31.411
Yeah.

01:05:31.411 --> 01:05:32.311
She met my father there.

01:05:32.311 --> 01:05:33.032
My dad.

01:05:33.601 --> 01:05:34.231
Switching gears.

01:05:34.291 --> 01:05:34.592
Sure.

01:05:34.802 --> 01:05:46.681
Went, uh, grew up in Baltimore, just outside, uh, now, like City and Baltimore at that time, he grew up, was probably a fairly prosperous town in comparison or, uh, not 76 comparably.

01:05:46.681 --> 01:05:48.181
So it was when he was born, so, okay.

01:05:48.362 --> 01:05:48.601
Yeah.

01:05:48.601 --> 01:05:50.012
It kind of was the eighties.

01:05:50.012 --> 01:05:50.237
Think eighties, yeah.

01:05:50.552 --> 01:05:57.362
Yeah, because the naval base there and different things like it was, it hadn't fallen into as much crime and stuff as it has become.

01:05:57.362 --> 01:05:57.572
I don't know.

01:05:57.572 --> 01:05:59.101
When, when is the wire based off of?

01:05:59.431 --> 01:05:59.672
I dunno.

01:05:59.677 --> 01:06:00.481
Is, is that the nineties?

01:06:00.541 --> 01:06:01.141
I think so.

01:06:01.771 --> 01:06:03.271
It wasn't, it wasn't easy Still.

01:06:03.271 --> 01:06:03.992
I've never seen it.

01:06:04.231 --> 01:06:06.302
Um, but he didn't grow up in Baltimore, right?

01:06:06.302 --> 01:06:08.521
He grew up, he grew up outside and went to a private school.

01:06:08.552 --> 01:06:08.942
Yeah.

01:06:08.942 --> 01:06:08.943
Yeah.

01:06:09.001 --> 01:06:12.181
So, uh, in T City, so that's like 40 minutes outside the city.

01:06:12.362 --> 01:06:12.572
Yep.

01:06:12.842 --> 01:06:14.461
So, but like Baltimore area.

01:06:14.492 --> 01:06:14.851
Yeah.

01:06:14.856 --> 01:06:14.876
Yeah.

01:06:14.972 --> 01:06:20.851
So, uh, he went to a private school, really good in school, also went to the University of Virginia.

01:06:21.302 --> 01:06:22.112
That's where they met.

01:06:22.472 --> 01:06:24.811
And the rest is kind of history.

01:06:24.811 --> 01:06:26.882
Were they like on like Donkey Kong right away?

01:06:26.987 --> 01:06:27.047
Yeah.

01:06:27.646 --> 01:06:31.217
Actually no, I don't think my mom liked my dad very much at the beginning.

01:06:31.606 --> 01:06:33.257
Uh, he used to have a less than she does now.

01:06:33.257 --> 01:06:35.266
He used to have a ponytail and an earring.

01:06:35.327 --> 01:06:35.806
Okay.

01:06:36.077 --> 01:06:37.847
Uh, and he followed.

01:06:37.936 --> 01:06:39.077
Are you, do you know Phish?

01:06:39.137 --> 01:06:39.407
Sure.

01:06:39.737 --> 01:06:40.967
He followed Phish for a summer.

01:06:40.967 --> 01:06:41.387
Wow.

01:06:41.597 --> 01:06:43.277
Like he used to be this total, I mean, he still loves.

01:06:43.277 --> 01:06:51.706
So this Catholic g from Louisiana, he still loves, grabbed a fish head out and turned him into a businessman with, uh, bane, I guess So ish.

01:06:51.737 --> 01:06:53.027
Something must have happened there.

01:06:53.056 --> 01:07:05.356
He still loves, uh, like jam bands, but uh, like he cut the ponytail off, took out the earring and Well, and the cool thing about music and especially improv music, jam bands, things like that, it's like.

01:07:05.791 --> 01:07:05.851
Yeah.

01:07:06.481 --> 01:07:16.771
Almost a manner of thinking and free flow and like his ideas around efficient lines and stuff like that could have been thought about while he was tripping around mushrooms at a Phish show.

01:07:16.952 --> 01:07:19.411
I don't, he, he actually wasn't into any of the recreation stuff.

01:07:19.411 --> 01:07:19.532
Oh.

01:07:19.532 --> 01:07:20.641
He was just a music guy.

01:07:20.641 --> 01:07:21.391
Only just loved the music.

01:07:21.391 --> 01:07:21.541
Oh.

01:07:21.541 --> 01:07:26.222
You don't see that many people just saying he maybe just doesn't tell you.

01:07:26.222 --> 01:07:26.521
I don't know.

01:07:26.552 --> 01:07:26.942
No, no.

01:07:26.942 --> 01:07:28.351
He's actually very adamant about it.

01:07:28.356 --> 01:07:28.597
Oh, he alright.

01:07:28.797 --> 01:07:28.916
Interesting.

01:07:29.177 --> 01:07:32.072
Um, and that grew up in my music taste too.

01:07:32.342 --> 01:07:32.581
Fair.

01:07:32.672 --> 01:07:33.692
I like all that stuff as well.

01:07:33.692 --> 01:07:34.052
Yeah.

01:07:34.052 --> 01:07:34.052
Yeah.

01:07:34.351 --> 01:07:35.612
Widespread once in a while, whatnot.

01:07:36.181 --> 01:07:37.291
Not widespread, no.

01:07:37.472 --> 01:07:39.632
Phish and actually now new newer band.

01:07:39.632 --> 01:07:40.081
Goose.

01:07:40.231 --> 01:07:40.621
Goose.

01:07:40.626 --> 01:07:40.797
A Goose.

01:07:40.802 --> 01:07:41.552
Oh, I've heard of that.

01:07:41.552 --> 01:07:41.791
Yeah.

01:07:41.791 --> 01:07:48.092
But not, it wasn't a thing when I was like younger and going see, but yeah, mu music's a big part of my family.

01:07:48.242 --> 01:07:48.391
Cool.

01:07:48.391 --> 01:07:50.431
So we don't actually play, but we just love to listen.

01:07:50.461 --> 01:07:51.362
Yeah, fair enough.

01:07:51.632 --> 01:07:54.693
Yeah, like if, if you go to your house, there'll be music in the background.

01:07:54.693 --> 01:07:55.472
Usually something playing a lot of times.

01:07:55.476 --> 01:07:57.331
So, so that's like more often than the tv?

01:07:57.362 --> 01:07:58.202
More often than the tv.

01:07:58.202 --> 01:07:58.351
Yeah.

01:07:58.351 --> 01:07:58.711
I dig it.

01:07:58.891 --> 01:08:00.242
So that's like kind of a.

01:08:00.286 --> 01:08:01.666
A little bit about my family.

01:08:01.666 --> 01:08:02.356
Yeah, I dig it.

01:08:02.717 --> 01:08:07.547
Um, faith or politics would you prefer to talk about, uh, we'll talk about faith a little bit.

01:08:07.547 --> 01:08:08.146
Alright, sure.

01:08:08.146 --> 01:08:08.447
Yeah.

01:08:08.476 --> 01:08:10.367
Uh, baptized Catholic.

01:08:10.367 --> 01:08:10.456
Yep.

01:08:10.547 --> 01:08:11.567
Raised Catholic.

01:08:11.746 --> 01:08:13.367
And I guess we'll get St.

01:08:13.367 --> 01:08:15.077
Joe's or, uh, no.

01:08:15.137 --> 01:08:15.436
Or here?

01:08:15.436 --> 01:08:15.797
Not in here.

01:08:15.802 --> 01:08:16.091
Not here.

01:08:16.487 --> 01:08:17.417
Uh oh.

01:08:17.417 --> 01:08:17.537
Yeah.

01:08:17.537 --> 01:08:19.367
You didn't come here until, how old were you when you got here?

01:08:19.367 --> 01:08:21.317
I was six To Fort Collins.

01:08:21.317 --> 01:08:22.127
Already To Fort Collins.

01:08:22.157 --> 01:08:25.157
Oh, I was thinking you moved to like the second stop before that.

01:08:25.787 --> 01:08:26.476
'cause it was Texas.

01:08:26.506 --> 01:08:28.936
Oh, and that was, you were six when you came here.

01:08:28.966 --> 01:08:29.027
Yeah.

01:08:29.027 --> 01:08:29.296
Sorry.

01:08:29.657 --> 01:08:29.837
Yeah.

01:08:29.837 --> 01:08:30.737
I thought you came a little bit later.

01:08:30.737 --> 01:08:31.572
I think there was another chapter.

01:08:31.572 --> 01:08:35.237
No, five when we left Dallas turned six in Louisville, then we moved.

01:08:35.296 --> 01:08:35.837
Okay.

01:08:35.837 --> 01:08:36.827
I thought you spent more time there.

01:08:36.886 --> 01:08:38.926
Sorry, I was planting a little, little later.

01:08:39.256 --> 01:08:39.317
Yeah.

01:08:39.466 --> 01:08:40.577
So, okay, go ahead.

01:08:40.787 --> 01:08:45.436
Um, so I was born baptized, or born then baptized Catholic.

01:08:45.442 --> 01:08:45.612
Yeah.

01:08:45.796 --> 01:08:49.577
Um, my dad is Protestant.

01:08:50.567 --> 01:08:51.256
Something of some sort.

01:08:51.707 --> 01:08:52.997
He's not, he's not too invested.

01:08:53.056 --> 01:08:53.987
Not Catholic.

01:08:54.077 --> 01:08:54.676
Um.

01:08:55.277 --> 01:08:56.957
And my mom was Catholic.

01:08:57.046 --> 01:08:57.287
Yeah.

01:08:57.466 --> 01:09:01.277
Uh, everyone on my fam my mom's side is Catholic, basically.

01:09:01.426 --> 01:09:03.827
But you guys haven't been too involved or?

01:09:03.827 --> 01:09:05.087
Um, not right now, no.

01:09:05.087 --> 01:09:05.117
Okay.

01:09:05.146 --> 01:09:09.556
Uh, we're, we're more in line with, uh, like a lot of Jesuit stuff.

01:09:09.827 --> 01:09:10.157
Okay.

01:09:10.216 --> 01:09:12.256
Uh, I'm not sure if you're familiar a little bit.

01:09:12.766 --> 01:09:14.837
Um, I guess tell me more if you're familiar.

01:09:14.867 --> 01:09:17.657
Uh, it's very, very big in New Orleans.

01:09:17.686 --> 01:09:18.016
Yeah.

01:09:18.256 --> 01:09:21.226
And, and the whole idea is it's very educational.

01:09:21.226 --> 01:09:21.587
Right.

01:09:21.617 --> 01:09:23.184
It's very schools, it's very service.

01:09:23.189 --> 01:09:24.136
Very service based.

01:09:24.167 --> 01:09:24.527
Okay.

01:09:24.676 --> 01:09:26.567
Um, which is why they have a lot of schools.

01:09:26.627 --> 01:09:27.021
Um, yeah.

01:09:28.426 --> 01:09:31.426
And the, the, the motto is men for others.

01:09:31.697 --> 01:09:32.027
Okay.

01:09:32.056 --> 01:09:35.146
Uh, it's very, uh, kinda action oriented.

01:09:35.146 --> 01:09:35.747
Action oriented.

01:09:36.287 --> 01:09:37.067
Service oriented.

01:09:37.127 --> 01:09:37.337
Okay.

01:09:37.577 --> 01:09:40.877
Um, and there's not a lot of that around here.

01:09:41.146 --> 01:09:41.356
Yeah.

01:09:41.447 --> 01:09:45.106
Um, and we just aligned with that a little bit better.

01:09:45.197 --> 01:09:45.377
Okay.

01:09:45.377 --> 01:09:47.837
So that's just haven't really made space.

01:09:47.837 --> 01:09:48.856
Your dad weren't around that.

01:09:48.856 --> 01:09:49.966
That's kind of, that's kind of my raisin.

01:09:50.027 --> 01:09:50.207
Yeah.

01:09:50.207 --> 01:09:50.686
Have you, have you.

01:09:51.992 --> 01:09:59.851
Individually studied at all, or like when you examine or you kind of, this is the faith background of my family and so I'm good.

01:10:00.962 --> 01:10:01.502
Uh, yeah.

01:10:01.502 --> 01:10:03.601
More, less like, have you explored a question of faith for yourself?

01:10:03.606 --> 01:10:04.292
Less, more or less.

01:10:04.292 --> 01:10:06.061
That's kind of like your dad's a Protestant, your mom's a Catholic.

01:10:06.061 --> 01:10:07.171
Do you see the discernment there?

01:10:07.202 --> 01:10:13.591
I am a, well, the reason why my dad, my dad actually, as far as I understand, I mean, I'm kind of speaking for him here.

01:10:13.681 --> 01:10:13.891
Yeah.

01:10:13.921 --> 01:10:21.511
I think that he would be a Catholic if it weren't for transubstantiation, for trans transubstantiation.

01:10:21.542 --> 01:10:22.712
Tell me what, I don't know what that is.

01:10:22.712 --> 01:10:25.652
So the, so are you familiar with communion?

01:10:25.921 --> 01:10:26.221
Sure.

01:10:26.851 --> 01:10:29.194
Oh, so thinking the body or the Eucharist, right?

01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:31.292
Like the body is the actual body, so, so.

01:10:31.546 --> 01:10:32.693
Or the bread is the actual body.

01:10:32.693 --> 01:10:42.886
Most Catholics, and I'm, I'm pretty sure the Catholic view is the actual body and blood is when you, if you dip the bread in the blood, that's the actual body and blood.

01:10:42.886 --> 01:10:44.896
So, so when they, so when they perform the sacraments Yeah.

01:10:44.957 --> 01:10:48.466
You are actually transforming the body and blood into the actual body and blood.

01:10:48.707 --> 01:10:50.087
That's what the Catholic View is.

01:10:50.087 --> 01:10:50.207
Yep.

01:10:50.327 --> 01:10:51.436
And the Lutherans, right?

01:10:51.646 --> 01:10:52.846
No, not the Lutherans.

01:10:52.877 --> 01:10:56.027
So, so when, well, some of the Lutherans, some the, I think some of the Lutherans, yeah.

01:10:56.087 --> 01:10:59.266
So when, because that was part of the reformation movements within the Lutheran church too.

01:10:59.296 --> 01:11:01.096
Oh, there was a Lutheran Reformation Yeah.

01:11:01.096 --> 01:11:01.877
Of sorts.

01:11:01.966 --> 01:11:02.731
Um, oh, I'm not familiar.

01:11:02.752 --> 01:11:09.827
But part of it was like, that's what, like the Pentecostals and the Lutherans are, I don't, I I get confused.

01:11:09.856 --> 01:11:10.426
I do too.

01:11:10.457 --> 01:11:13.907
But it does, like, I, I kind of agree with your dad.

01:11:13.907 --> 01:11:20.117
Like it's hard for me to grab those little piece of bread and be like, okay, this is the body of Christ, you know, and eat it.

01:11:20.117 --> 01:11:24.436
And I recognize some from,'cause I'm a non-Catholic Christian, if you will.

01:11:24.466 --> 01:11:24.766
Okay.

01:11:25.037 --> 01:11:31.067
And I recognize the power and the significance of acknowledging.

01:11:31.487 --> 01:11:34.546
A belief in something, you know?

01:11:34.546 --> 01:11:37.787
And I think it's metaphor, this is my body broken for you.

01:11:38.296 --> 01:11:40.426
Um, so anyway, I'm kind of on your dad's team there.

01:11:40.817 --> 01:11:41.056
Yeah.

01:11:41.056 --> 01:11:44.327
I, that's something that he just can't get behind, so Yeah, I get it.

01:11:44.356 --> 01:11:46.426
Um, fair enough.

01:11:46.426 --> 01:11:55.606
I don't blame him, but uh, that's something that I just, you know, are the Swiss, probably Catholics and Lutherans would be my guess.

01:11:56.341 --> 01:11:56.622
I think.

01:11:56.822 --> 01:11:57.622
I don't know if I had guess.

01:11:57.702 --> 01:11:58.061
I think so.

01:11:58.216 --> 01:11:58.877
I have no idea.

01:11:58.877 --> 01:11:59.537
I don't know.

01:11:59.596 --> 01:12:00.421
Um, I don't know.

01:12:00.466 --> 01:12:01.846
I enjoy watching little, like videos.

01:12:01.846 --> 01:12:04.337
So my dad, my dad is the Swiss, my dad is a Swiss one.

01:12:04.367 --> 01:12:04.546
Yep.

01:12:04.907 --> 01:12:06.106
And my mom is the Catholic one.

01:12:06.106 --> 01:12:06.287
Yep.

01:12:06.676 --> 01:12:08.686
But I think a lot of Swiss are Catholics too.

01:12:09.226 --> 01:12:13.542
I think so because they're pretty close to Italy there, where the Roman Catholic church was pretty dominant for a long time.

01:12:13.542 --> 01:12:14.867
Well, and then my dad's also Irish.

01:12:15.226 --> 01:12:15.407
Oh.

01:12:16.231 --> 01:12:17.521
Which is usually Catholic too.

01:12:18.122 --> 01:12:22.652
But no, they, they weren't, I don't think my, they were Irish Catholics.

01:12:22.712 --> 01:12:23.612
Oh, interesting.

01:12:24.421 --> 01:12:24.752
Yeah.

01:12:24.811 --> 01:12:30.122
I think they were the starved Irish, the Catholics beat the shit out of the Protestant Irish for a long time.

01:12:30.511 --> 01:12:31.561
I think we were the starved Irish.

01:12:31.561 --> 01:12:32.072
Interesting.

01:12:32.072 --> 01:12:32.402
Okay.

01:12:32.731 --> 01:12:35.282
They, they came over because they took the potatoes.

01:12:35.282 --> 01:12:37.832
I think that's, I think that's what interesting.

01:12:37.832 --> 01:12:39.421
I think that's what we were, that's not funny.

01:12:39.716 --> 01:12:52.021
I, I don't know exactly, but, uh, as far as I, so it goes well, maybe in your, uh, early year of college here, you can get a little deeper into your face study and, uh, examining more for yourself.

01:12:52.141 --> 01:12:52.231
Yeah.

01:12:54.117 --> 01:12:56.192
I think that's always a worthy cause.

01:12:56.402 --> 01:12:58.202
Uh, but I'm, I'm pretty secure in my faith.

01:12:58.261 --> 01:12:58.502
Yeah.

01:12:58.591 --> 01:13:01.351
I I So you identify pretty much as Yeah.

01:13:01.381 --> 01:13:03.181
Catholic, even though you haven't had a lot of.

01:13:04.127 --> 01:13:06.796
Like interaction with church services or people.

01:13:06.801 --> 01:13:09.976
I mean, I, I go, we go Oh, you do to for more or less.

01:13:09.976 --> 01:13:12.197
Like, we, we try to go as much more than Christmas and Easter.

01:13:12.256 --> 01:13:12.527
Right.

01:13:12.707 --> 01:13:12.976
Okay.

01:13:13.487 --> 01:13:13.966
Fair enough.

01:13:13.997 --> 01:13:15.317
I Sorry, I got the wrong impression.

01:13:15.317 --> 01:13:16.096
No, no, it's all right.

01:13:16.127 --> 01:13:18.346
Um, but your dad's not as much?

01:13:18.976 --> 01:13:19.667
No, he comes with us.

01:13:19.697 --> 01:13:20.176
Oh, he does?

01:13:20.176 --> 01:13:21.962
He just doesn't go thing.

01:13:21.962 --> 01:13:23.627
He just doesn't de because he doesn't Yeah.

01:13:23.686 --> 01:13:24.346
Buy that part.

01:13:24.346 --> 01:13:24.497
Right.

01:13:24.497 --> 01:13:24.917
Interesting.

01:13:25.006 --> 01:13:25.337
Okay.

01:13:25.726 --> 01:13:40.367
Yeah, that's, I, I don't know it, I try to talk to my wife about these things and she's like, I just don't care about any of those kind of differences between Baptists and Reformed and Presbyterians and Catholics and Right.

01:13:40.367 --> 01:13:41.327
It just doesn't matter to me.

01:13:41.447 --> 01:13:42.346
We're all Christians.

01:13:44.207 --> 01:13:44.777
That's one take.

01:13:44.837 --> 01:13:45.226
Yeah.

01:13:45.827 --> 01:13:55.457
Um, although Catholics disagree, generally, uh, I, I, I feel like I tend to have a more Jesuit approach, which is just love.

01:13:55.457 --> 01:13:56.176
How is your service?

01:13:56.176 --> 01:13:56.867
Love, love everybody.

01:13:56.867 --> 01:13:57.226
Yeah.

01:13:57.587 --> 01:13:57.976
I dig it.

01:13:58.532 --> 01:14:12.362
I think probably the ideal, uh, approach, regardless of what faith you adhere to, um, politics, we are, I don't know what, maybe a month in 40 days into Jesus feels so much longer.

01:14:14.072 --> 01:14:23.372
Um, I guess gimme, uh, gimme a couple things that you like about the new administrations and a couple of criticism so far.

01:14:27.032 --> 01:14:28.442
I don't know if I can do that first part.

01:14:29.221 --> 01:14:30.577
You can start with the latter if you'd like.

01:14:30.577 --> 01:14:31.832
I'll keep, I wanna keep this part brief.

01:14:32.431 --> 01:14:37.591
Um, I feel like we're lacking empathy right now.

01:14:37.712 --> 01:14:37.921
Hmm.

01:14:37.921 --> 01:14:39.242
And that's kind of hard.

01:14:39.902 --> 01:14:42.782
Um, like the, the whole federal government workers Yeah.

01:14:42.782 --> 01:14:43.742
Send your email.

01:14:43.742 --> 01:14:46.322
What these grants are canceled that, that lacks.

01:14:46.322 --> 01:14:47.702
I feel like that lacks empathy.

01:14:47.912 --> 01:14:48.061
Okay.

01:14:48.091 --> 01:14:54.212
Um, and I, I feel like we're lacking perspective Yeah.

01:14:54.572 --> 01:14:57.572
On some things and, and.

01:15:01.636 --> 01:15:02.207
Are you 18?

01:15:02.327 --> 01:15:02.987
I am 18.

01:15:03.016 --> 01:15:03.617
Did you vote?

01:15:03.707 --> 01:15:04.032
No, I did.

01:15:04.037 --> 01:15:04.516
I did vote.

01:15:04.577 --> 01:15:04.877
Okay.

01:15:04.877 --> 01:15:06.046
So you had a vote last fall?

01:15:06.106 --> 01:15:06.527
Yes.

01:15:06.917 --> 01:15:08.027
It wasn't for Trump, I presume.

01:15:08.266 --> 01:15:08.837
It was not, it was not for Trump.

01:15:09.046 --> 01:15:19.846
Um, so I guess as a, as an economist myself, um, what do you think America should do about its kind of debt ball?

01:15:20.176 --> 01:15:26.296
Is it like not really a problem, or do we need to I'm not educated enough on the, no, on the topics.

01:15:26.327 --> 01:15:32.176
I mean, we collected about 6 billion in TA or 6 trillion in taxes last year and spent eight and a half.

01:15:33.197 --> 01:15:37.697
Um, I mean, I, I, obviously, I know that that's an issue just right, just seeing the numbers.

01:15:37.817 --> 01:15:51.917
I characterize it to my employee, Alma, as like, if you and your husband made a hundred thousand dollars a year and you spent 140 for like 10 years, you'd be in tough shape even though you have this like, really good economy, right?

01:15:51.917 --> 01:15:57.556
And you shouldn't run yourself into a, like, we were literally at like a 31% deficit last year.

01:15:58.261 --> 01:16:05.042
In 2020 or 2024, uh, which is so much, it's like if you made$2,000 a month spending 3,200, right?

01:16:06.002 --> 01:16:06.212
No.

01:16:06.212 --> 01:16:07.527
Like I, I, I understand.

01:16:07.787 --> 01:16:11.372
So I, I get it that we, the empathy thing, but what do we do about it, I guess?

01:16:11.431 --> 01:16:22.412
Uh, uh, I don't think that it comes from cutting money from Bangladeshi and moms and children that are starving and as, as a, as a world powerhouse.

01:16:22.412 --> 01:16:26.881
You say that foreign aid does good things sometimes, and now there's, we have a response.

01:16:26.881 --> 01:16:28.891
I feel like we have a responsibility Yeah.

01:16:29.311 --> 01:16:30.811
As, as a powerhouse.

01:16:31.832 --> 01:16:38.042
Well, or do we to do good or do we create people dependent upon this kind of thing and make it worse sometimes.

01:16:38.731 --> 01:16:39.931
I I, okay.

01:16:39.936 --> 01:16:42.046
If you wanna, I dunno if that's my, my, okay.

01:16:42.136 --> 01:16:44.266
If we wanna talk about like dependency.

01:16:44.296 --> 01:16:45.046
Yeah, yeah.

01:16:45.046 --> 01:16:45.047
Yeah.

01:16:45.346 --> 01:16:49.171
I think that there are good things that come with aid if we, if we wanna talk about like Well, yeah.

01:16:49.247 --> 01:16:49.997
Like strategy.

01:16:50.176 --> 01:16:50.627
Totally.

01:16:50.627 --> 01:16:52.096
Like moving people to your will.

01:16:52.101 --> 01:16:54.346
We'll talk, we'll talk about like Marshall plan Sure.

01:16:54.346 --> 01:16:55.667
Post World War II percent.

01:16:55.726 --> 01:16:55.966
Yeah.

01:16:55.997 --> 01:17:01.877
We, we had a hundred percent influence among the Greek and Middle Eastern countries Yeah.

01:17:01.877 --> 01:17:06.167
For a really long time because of the, in the aid that we had for, of amongst rebuilding those countries.

01:17:06.226 --> 01:17:06.556
Right.

01:17:06.556 --> 01:17:07.096
Well, and right.

01:17:07.096 --> 01:17:12.617
Like right now China's got tremendous influence on a lot of African nations because of all the infrastructure investment they're doing.

01:17:12.617 --> 01:17:13.306
Absolutely right.

01:17:13.726 --> 01:17:18.886
So like, is that, is that wasteful spending or is that them being smart planning for the future?

01:17:18.917 --> 01:17:26.987
Uh, and I think that's the argument for, I, you know, what I think is wasteful, this, I think spending a lot of money on a plane that doesn't work on a plane, that doesn't work.

01:17:26.987 --> 01:17:28.516
We we're behind on on.

01:17:28.817 --> 01:17:29.356
Oh yeah.

01:17:29.447 --> 01:17:31.186
I hate, hate any more spending, frankly.

01:17:31.667 --> 01:17:34.306
So I think that, you know, we could save a lot of money there.

01:17:34.396 --> 01:17:34.697
Yeah.

01:17:36.032 --> 01:17:42.992
I don't think saving$10 million on, on that versus on a, on a food program for Bangladesh.

01:17:42.992 --> 01:17:43.051
Yeah.

01:17:43.157 --> 01:17:45.421
For, for starving bangladeshian mother and children.

01:17:45.481 --> 01:17:45.572
Mm-hmm.

01:17:46.141 --> 01:17:58.532
When we could be saving a trillion dollars on a plane that we gave to already overfunded military contractors that aren't doing any, you, you will not get me arguing against cutting military spending.

01:17:59.042 --> 01:18:04.532
Um, but it is only a small part ultimately of our, of our de deficit problems.

01:18:04.921 --> 01:18:11.822
Um, medic obligatory spending, Medicare, Medicaid, social Security is 61% of our budget right now.

01:18:12.662 --> 01:18:14.881
Um, and debt services like 12.

01:18:16.006 --> 01:18:18.601
And, and at the end of the day, this, a lot of this is just my opinion.

01:18:18.617 --> 01:18:18.907
Yeah.

01:18:18.912 --> 01:18:19.171
Yeah.

01:18:19.171 --> 01:18:19.952
And I don't No, I know.

01:18:19.952 --> 01:18:21.181
And you're not, you're not a student.

01:18:21.391 --> 01:18:23.521
I'm not a of politics necessarily yet.

01:18:23.551 --> 01:18:28.351
But I, I think that's my challenge is like, yes, it always sucks.

01:18:28.351 --> 01:18:31.351
Like some of those grants that.

01:18:32.011 --> 01:18:41.402
Trump's cut and stuff are gonna affect CSU, it's gonna affect forest service different, you know, and those people won't buy money at small businesses and things like that.

01:18:42.002 --> 01:18:54.212
And like, we gotta stop, like we gotta stop spending so much more than we take in as a nation, otherwise we're gonna be broke and China's gonna be the boss and then shit will be bad.

01:18:55.832 --> 01:18:57.391
Anyway, that's my soapbox.

01:18:57.631 --> 01:18:57.841
Right?

01:18:58.712 --> 01:19:00.421
Um, do you wanna do the ping pong ball challenge?

01:19:00.452 --> 01:19:01.112
Sure, we can do that.

01:19:04.952 --> 01:19:12.782
Ah, so this is, uh, you're gonna pull three of those balls out.

01:19:12.811 --> 01:19:13.051
Okay.

01:19:13.292 --> 01:19:14.612
And each one has a number on it.

01:19:14.612 --> 01:19:17.612
And the corresponding question is here on this printout.

01:19:17.942 --> 01:19:21.481
Do I get a pass, um, a pass if I don't like the question?

01:19:21.481 --> 01:19:22.471
Yeah, if you don't like the question.

01:19:22.622 --> 01:19:22.652
Okay.

01:19:22.652 --> 01:19:23.462
It's a family show.

01:19:23.462 --> 01:19:23.851
Seven.

01:19:23.912 --> 01:19:24.902
It's seven.

01:19:26.221 --> 01:19:28.862
How do you find, how do you define happiness?

01:19:29.011 --> 01:19:29.671
Oh, okay.

01:19:30.242 --> 01:19:30.511
Yeah.

01:19:30.572 --> 01:19:31.231
They're not crazy ISTs.

01:19:31.231 --> 01:19:31.591
Okay.

01:19:31.591 --> 01:19:31.801
Yeah.

01:19:31.862 --> 01:19:32.997
It was like, oh, yeah, yeah.

01:19:32.997 --> 01:19:33.396
Nothing crazy.

01:19:33.396 --> 01:19:34.261
Is this like hot seat?

01:19:34.322 --> 01:19:34.591
No.

01:19:34.591 --> 01:19:34.801
Yeah.

01:19:34.801 --> 01:19:39.391
The, the politics section is done, you know, seven.

01:19:39.601 --> 01:19:40.712
Uh, how do I define happiness?

01:19:40.712 --> 01:19:41.252
Yes.

01:19:41.671 --> 01:19:42.122
Hmm.

01:19:43.622 --> 01:19:44.341
How do you measure it?

01:19:45.032 --> 01:19:47.221
That's kind of, I don't feel like you can measure happiness.

01:19:47.311 --> 01:19:49.652
Like I can't put happiness in a bottle and Yeah.

01:19:49.652 --> 01:19:49.653
Yeah.

01:19:49.891 --> 01:19:50.131
No.

01:19:50.192 --> 01:19:51.721
Like, oh, this is, it's not quantitative.

01:19:51.752 --> 01:19:52.817
So much happiness I have.

01:19:53.101 --> 01:19:53.431
Yeah.

01:19:53.702 --> 01:19:58.322
But you were glowing when you were like, talking about your leadership team with deca earlier and stuff.

01:19:58.322 --> 01:19:58.862
I, okay.

01:19:59.162 --> 01:20:01.322
I guess your dimples were flashing heavy.

01:20:02.101 --> 01:20:11.702
Um, if I were to measure happiness, I, I'd say it's in like, experiences with people.

01:20:11.881 --> 01:20:12.242
Okay.

01:20:12.511 --> 01:20:17.881
Um, I'd say if I were to talk about like when I'm a, when I'm the happiness Yeah.

01:20:17.886 --> 01:20:18.037
Yeah.

01:20:18.152 --> 01:20:19.021
When I'm the happiest.

01:20:19.021 --> 01:20:19.412
Yeah.

01:20:19.412 --> 01:20:19.412
Yeah.

01:20:19.712 --> 01:20:23.311
I'm with people I care about and I'm doing something.

01:20:23.942 --> 01:20:25.981
It doesn't have to be something like mind blowing.

01:20:26.011 --> 01:20:26.341
Yeah.

01:20:26.341 --> 01:20:26.342
Yeah.

01:20:26.347 --> 01:20:27.391
And I'm, I'm doing something.

01:20:27.902 --> 01:20:29.131
With someone that I care about.

01:20:29.162 --> 01:20:29.402
Yeah.

01:20:30.212 --> 01:20:39.511
Well, in those uncomfortable experiences, I've, I've heard it said before, you know, you, you, you laugh a lot during the fun times, you know, when you're riding a rollercoaster and stuff.

01:20:39.511 --> 01:20:52.681
But when you go camping and it rains all weekend and you struggle through it with some people you love, you know, those are the things you remember fondly and even like your decade experiences and stuff, you're with people and it's not a struggle, but it's not easy.

01:20:52.801 --> 01:20:53.192
Right.

01:20:53.252 --> 01:20:54.242
No, absolutely.

01:20:54.301 --> 01:20:58.261
You know, you're, I wouldn't say that it all, any of it was easy.

01:20:58.322 --> 01:20:58.681
Sure.

01:20:58.921 --> 01:21:00.212
But I, I had a lot of fun.

01:21:00.301 --> 01:21:00.601
Yeah.

01:21:01.051 --> 01:21:05.971
Um, we, we, there was, there were a couple tears when it was over.

01:21:06.032 --> 01:21:06.271
Mm.

01:21:06.452 --> 01:21:12.061
Um, but like we, we always said like, oh, we can't say goodbye because we're never, it's not goodbye.

01:21:12.061 --> 01:21:12.662
It's, bye for now.

01:21:12.692 --> 01:21:13.412
It's bye for now.

01:21:13.412 --> 01:21:14.551
It it, we'll see you later.

01:21:14.612 --> 01:21:14.912
Yeah.

01:21:14.917 --> 01:21:14.936
Yeah.

01:21:14.971 --> 01:21:19.207
Um, like, and that was like a, a big moment of that, like, yeah.

01:21:19.502 --> 01:21:20.942
Oh, we're, we're crying in the room.

01:21:20.957 --> 01:21:21.247
Yeah.

01:21:21.252 --> 01:21:21.841
Yeah.

01:21:21.872 --> 01:21:22.292
I get it.

01:21:22.292 --> 01:21:22.801
For sure.

01:21:23.252 --> 01:21:23.551
Cool.

01:21:23.881 --> 01:21:24.841
Uh, next question.

01:21:24.872 --> 01:21:24.902
Okay.

01:21:28.202 --> 01:21:34.652
Number two being Ava collaborated on this one.

01:21:34.652 --> 01:21:35.462
This is one of Ava's.

01:21:37.202 --> 01:21:40.622
Would you rather fight one horse size duck?

01:21:40.712 --> 01:21:41.462
Oh, I love this question.

01:21:41.462 --> 01:21:43.351
Or 100 duck size horses.

01:21:43.412 --> 01:21:48.481
A hundred duck size horse, one horse size duck, or 100 duck sized horses.

01:21:49.171 --> 01:21:54.752
Um, I'm gonna go one horse-sized duck.

01:21:55.082 --> 01:21:55.561
And why?

01:21:55.891 --> 01:21:56.521
Why?

01:21:56.671 --> 01:21:57.032
Okay.

01:21:57.601 --> 01:22:01.801
I've, I would never, I would totally go for the hundred duck size horses outside, just like screaming.

01:22:02.221 --> 01:22:03.032
Um, okay.

01:22:03.992 --> 01:22:07.771
I'm gonna go one horse size duck because I've spent a lot of time with horses.

01:22:07.777 --> 01:22:08.067
Okay.

01:22:08.311 --> 01:22:11.252
Um, at my summer camp, I, I've spent.

01:22:11.822 --> 01:22:15.662
A decent amount of time of horses and so you try to mount'em and ride'em.

01:22:16.261 --> 01:22:19.381
I would ride them and, but but a duck.

01:22:19.801 --> 01:22:21.841
So you're talking about a horse-sized duck here.

01:22:21.841 --> 01:22:23.641
It's gonna have a different handling characteristics.

01:22:23.641 --> 01:22:24.391
So Okay.

01:22:24.692 --> 01:22:27.481
Horses kick really hard.

01:22:27.782 --> 01:22:28.082
True.

01:22:28.141 --> 01:22:36.617
And even if it's a duck sized horse, like that's gonna come up to like my knee, that's gonna hurt a whole bunch of little kicks.

01:22:36.617 --> 01:22:38.072
And there there's like a hundred of'em.

01:22:38.372 --> 01:22:39.992
Like I'm not gonna be able to take those.

01:22:39.992 --> 01:22:40.737
Those they gonna swarm you eventually.

01:22:40.742 --> 01:22:44.131
I'm not gonna be able to take those on a stampede at, at some point stampede.

01:22:44.252 --> 01:22:47.737
I'm just gonna get like knocked over and they're just gonna be kicking me in the head.

01:22:48.567 --> 01:22:48.856
Okay.

01:22:49.207 --> 01:22:49.497
Okay.

01:22:49.561 --> 01:22:53.131
So let's say, let's, so, so let's contrast that to the horse size.

01:22:53.131 --> 01:22:55.292
Duck ducks are, how are you gonna go about ducks is stupid.

01:22:55.381 --> 01:22:55.771
Okay.

01:22:55.771 --> 01:23:01.891
So if even like, even something large that's still stupid, right?

01:23:01.891 --> 01:23:03.242
So I can, I feel like I could.

01:23:03.301 --> 01:23:05.221
And we were talking about a 1200 pound duck here.

01:23:05.282 --> 01:23:06.091
Outmaneuver it.

01:23:06.242 --> 01:23:06.931
Alright.

01:23:06.931 --> 01:23:08.042
And how are you gonna take it down?

01:23:08.747 --> 01:23:11.301
I'll like climb up on it and then like wrangle it out.

01:23:11.301 --> 01:23:12.587
Sl Yeah, like get around its neck.

01:23:12.587 --> 01:23:14.327
'cause his neck will be like kind of just choke it out.

01:23:14.386 --> 01:23:14.447
Yeah.

01:23:14.447 --> 01:23:14.896
Still kind of thing.

01:23:14.896 --> 01:23:17.027
He's gonna have like a four foot long neck.

01:23:17.087 --> 01:23:17.386
Right.

01:23:17.837 --> 01:23:18.346
That'll be fine.

01:23:18.407 --> 01:23:18.796
All right.

01:23:18.796 --> 01:23:21.436
Just get on his back, ride out like horse for a while, then choke it out.

01:23:21.436 --> 01:23:21.737
Tire.

01:23:21.742 --> 01:23:22.067
Tire it out.

01:23:22.067 --> 01:23:22.127
Yeah.

01:23:22.127 --> 01:23:22.667
Choke it out.

01:23:23.327 --> 01:23:23.716
All right.

01:23:23.721 --> 01:23:24.181
Yeah, right.

01:23:24.186 --> 01:23:24.646
That'll be fine.

01:23:24.646 --> 01:23:25.127
That's cool.

01:23:26.146 --> 01:23:26.987
All last question.

01:23:29.777 --> 01:23:30.796
26.

01:23:31.006 --> 01:23:32.146
26.

01:23:32.896 --> 01:23:37.667
What's your go, what's your go-to way to unwind after a stressful day?

01:23:37.846 --> 01:23:38.837
Oh, that's a good question.

01:23:39.646 --> 01:23:42.796
Especially for like old people that have been like stressed out for years and stuff.

01:23:42.796 --> 01:23:43.667
You can hand that to me.

01:23:43.667 --> 01:23:43.756
Yeah.

01:23:43.787 --> 01:23:45.737
'cause I get stressed out all the time, I'm sure.

01:23:45.766 --> 01:23:51.856
Um, I, so I like to meditate.

01:23:52.157 --> 01:23:52.426
Okay.

01:23:52.426 --> 01:23:53.266
It's a big one for me.

01:23:53.596 --> 01:23:54.256
Um.

01:23:54.976 --> 01:23:56.327
Assisted unassisted.

01:23:56.356 --> 01:23:56.926
Just silent.

01:23:56.926 --> 01:23:59.056
I'm gonna just like, kind of just sit, just quiet.

01:23:59.056 --> 01:23:59.356
Sit.

01:24:00.106 --> 01:24:03.167
Um, my dad says a phrase.

01:24:03.167 --> 01:24:06.917
Uh, sometimes I sits and thinks and sometimes I just sits.

01:24:08.926 --> 01:24:09.737
That's kind of true.

01:24:09.976 --> 01:24:10.247
Yeah.

01:24:10.667 --> 01:24:11.926
Um, listen to music.

01:24:11.926 --> 01:24:12.737
Read a book.

01:24:12.766 --> 01:24:13.037
Yeah.

01:24:13.516 --> 01:24:16.367
Maybe just scroll on my phone, like, just mindless.

01:24:16.367 --> 01:24:17.747
Let my brain rot for a minute.

01:24:17.777 --> 01:24:18.136
All right.

01:24:18.377 --> 01:24:22.127
Um, just any, like, just, you know, just deep, deep plug.

01:24:22.186 --> 01:24:22.546
Just deep.

01:24:22.577 --> 01:24:22.907
Yeah.

01:24:23.926 --> 01:24:24.497
Take a moment.

01:24:24.856 --> 01:24:26.417
Do you do anything?

01:24:26.447 --> 01:24:28.367
Um, workout sometimes.

01:24:28.487 --> 01:24:28.697
Yeah.

01:24:28.702 --> 01:24:28.811
Yeah.

01:24:28.817 --> 01:24:30.707
You look like you've got pretty big pipes.

01:24:31.067 --> 01:24:31.097
Oh, thanks.

01:24:31.097 --> 01:24:32.296
Appreciate, you know, for a young guy, you know.

01:24:33.827 --> 01:24:35.537
Now we're gonna do the loco experience.

01:24:35.567 --> 01:24:35.896
Okay.

01:24:35.987 --> 01:24:39.527
Your craziest experience of your young life so far.

01:24:39.617 --> 01:24:42.046
Crazy experience other than voting for Kamala.

01:24:42.167 --> 01:24:42.617
Just kidding.

01:24:42.646 --> 01:24:44.716
Oh my God, I'm just, don't even get me started.

01:24:46.997 --> 01:24:49.157
Craziest experience of my life.

01:24:49.186 --> 01:24:51.587
My short, short 18 and a half year old life.

01:24:51.587 --> 01:24:51.676
Yeah.

01:24:51.676 --> 01:24:51.947
Yeah.

01:24:52.577 --> 01:24:53.447
Um.

01:24:56.356 --> 01:24:56.716
Hmm.

01:24:56.747 --> 01:24:57.796
Might be just a moment.

01:24:57.796 --> 01:24:58.127
Might be yours.

01:24:58.127 --> 01:25:00.676
There's been a couple highlights semester abroad, there's been a couple highlights.

01:25:00.676 --> 01:25:02.716
Any near death experiences, anything like that?

01:25:02.806 --> 01:25:05.087
Um, hopefully not.

01:25:06.976 --> 01:25:10.817
I'll go with one that I, Betsy don't listen though if No, no, no, no, no.

01:25:10.817 --> 01:25:11.747
She heard this story near death.

01:25:11.777 --> 01:25:11.987
Okay.

01:25:12.046 --> 01:25:14.417
Um, that I thought was probably okay.

01:25:14.657 --> 01:25:15.377
Crazy.

01:25:15.856 --> 01:25:20.417
But, uh, it turned out to be Okay, so going back to summer camp.

01:25:20.686 --> 01:25:21.046
Okay.

01:25:21.707 --> 01:25:23.296
We were, this is the month long summer camp.

01:25:23.296 --> 01:25:26.417
Month long summer camp in the Rocky Mountain National Park.

01:25:26.476 --> 01:25:26.777
Okay.

01:25:27.167 --> 01:25:33.617
We were on a mountain bike overnight, so we go on a 20 mile mountain bike.

01:25:33.737 --> 01:25:33.886
Yep.

01:25:33.886 --> 01:25:35.987
You know, up the mountains, bring your tent in the backpack kind of thing.

01:25:36.046 --> 01:25:37.997
Well, no, they, they actually ship our stuff.

01:25:38.117 --> 01:25:38.686
Oh, that's nice.

01:25:38.777 --> 01:25:44.506
Uh, but we, you know, we have most of our stuff in our packs and then they, they ship out the tent in the food, but that's it.

01:25:44.567 --> 01:25:45.917
Everything else we have to bring ourselves.

01:25:45.947 --> 01:25:46.186
Right.

01:25:46.667 --> 01:25:48.796
And we, we ride the bikes up the mountain.

01:25:49.546 --> 01:25:53.596
Then we, we meet the, we meet the, the bus, not the bus, the truck.

01:25:53.837 --> 01:25:54.436
We unload it.

01:25:54.436 --> 01:25:55.037
They get all your gear.

01:25:55.037 --> 01:25:56.716
We stay the night and then we ride it back.

01:25:56.716 --> 01:26:03.436
The next day when we were making dinner, we heard this blood curling scream in the forest.

01:26:03.527 --> 01:26:03.886
Okay.

01:26:04.216 --> 01:26:05.837
And it was terrifying.

01:26:06.287 --> 01:26:12.016
Like literally like sounded like a woman being murdered in cold blood.

01:26:12.436 --> 01:26:22.606
And then soon after we heard someone of your stature, like someone with your voice, a man voice, a man voice screaming in cold blood as well.

01:26:23.266 --> 01:26:23.296
Okay.

01:26:23.296 --> 01:26:24.766
And it was, it was terrifying.

01:26:24.766 --> 01:26:29.957
Like, like literally woman screaming, man screaming, and then a woman screaming again.

01:26:30.497 --> 01:26:36.527
And we were like, what did, like we just hear like a double murder, suicide like crazy, right in the woods.

01:26:36.527 --> 01:26:38.117
Like serial killer thing.

01:26:38.117 --> 01:26:41.056
Just go off and it's me.

01:26:41.176 --> 01:26:41.686
And like.

01:26:42.572 --> 01:26:43.891
14 other dudes.

01:26:43.952 --> 01:26:44.341
Okay.

01:26:44.582 --> 01:26:47.912
And we're in the woods and we're like, oh my God, there's no cell service.

01:26:47.912 --> 01:26:48.627
And what do we do?

01:26:48.662 --> 01:26:49.082
Right?

01:26:49.261 --> 01:26:51.061
So we do you have like a camp leader or something?

01:26:51.061 --> 01:26:54.572
We have a counselor and he's, you know, 19, right?

01:26:55.561 --> 01:26:57.902
He's definitely not fighting off whatever it is that killed that dude.

01:26:57.902 --> 01:27:00.212
And we're like, what the hell is happening?

01:27:00.212 --> 01:27:11.252
And we're like, everyone get all the sharp things into one corner and someone grab the ax and we're gonna go all get together at this one point and we're gonna, like, we get all our safety protocols together.

01:27:11.521 --> 01:27:13.112
And someone's like, where's the SAT phone?

01:27:13.502 --> 01:27:14.851
'cause we have a, we have a satellite phone.

01:27:14.851 --> 01:27:15.506
Hey, just in case.

01:27:15.567 --> 01:27:19.561
So we call camp, we're like, we just, what, what, what do we just hear?

01:27:20.162 --> 01:27:22.742
And camp's like, uh.

01:27:23.146 --> 01:27:24.407
Call the Rangers.

01:27:24.466 --> 01:27:26.027
We can't do anything about this.

01:27:26.266 --> 01:27:27.466
So we call the rangers.

01:27:27.466 --> 01:27:27.497
Okay.

01:27:27.856 --> 01:27:31.306
Rangers come out, the Rangers are like, we can't do anything about this.

01:27:31.396 --> 01:27:32.957
Let's get the police out here.

01:27:33.226 --> 01:27:38.777
And all of a sudden our campsite and the surrounding like 10 mile radius is an act of crime scene.

01:27:38.837 --> 01:27:39.317
Okay.

01:27:40.037 --> 01:27:42.256
Turns out they couldn't find anything.

01:27:43.157 --> 01:27:45.136
Um, it, that's all, that's it.

01:27:45.192 --> 01:27:47.176
It they, they nobody knows all night.

01:27:47.596 --> 01:27:48.572
They look, they look for stuff.

01:27:48.856 --> 01:27:51.976
They got like dogs with flashlights and could not find anything.

01:27:52.127 --> 01:27:52.487
Okay.

01:27:52.606 --> 01:27:58.546
Um, they think a dude was murdered by a mountain lion and like dragged away.

01:27:59.176 --> 01:27:59.627
Really?

01:27:59.747 --> 01:28:00.527
At the end of it?

01:28:00.646 --> 01:28:01.127
Yeah.

01:28:01.337 --> 01:28:02.661
Uh,'cause like they never found him.

01:28:02.666 --> 01:28:04.606
Or like some, some guy ended up going missing.

01:28:04.697 --> 01:28:05.176
Okay.

01:28:05.207 --> 01:28:07.577
But it was kind of unrelated, but we're not really sure.

01:28:07.577 --> 01:28:11.896
So like, you maybe heard the cat scream and so, so the cat cats can do that apparently.

01:28:11.896 --> 01:28:11.957
Yeah.

01:28:11.987 --> 01:28:15.408
They can mimic like a woman or they, they like can scream like that.

01:28:15.412 --> 01:28:18.256
So you may have heard a mountain bike.

01:28:18.796 --> 01:28:22.247
Mountain Lion, lion killed and then the dude getting like mauled.

01:28:23.072 --> 01:28:23.551
Damn.

01:28:24.032 --> 01:28:27.032
Yeah, it was, didn't find no blood or nothing, though.

01:28:27.212 --> 01:28:28.112
I don't think so.

01:28:28.231 --> 01:28:36.091
Like, it seems they, they didn't really update, they didn't really update us and like, but those valleys are so big sometimes and like we kind of all forgot about it, but that was definitely one of them.

01:28:36.091 --> 01:28:38.971
Like you could hear something from three miles away.

01:28:39.362 --> 01:28:41.942
Probably some, sometimes it's just still and quiet.

01:28:41.942 --> 01:28:42.002
Yeah.

01:28:42.002 --> 01:28:43.082
In those mountain valleys.

01:28:43.082 --> 01:28:43.886
And it's just like echo.

01:28:43.886 --> 01:28:49.141
Well we were, we were like, we were like all chilling out, you know, like we were making our, like our chicken and like chicken rice and whatever.

01:28:49.141 --> 01:28:49.412
Interesting.

01:28:49.686 --> 01:28:49.766
Interesting.

01:28:49.766 --> 01:28:52.141
And then all of a sudden, like blood curling.

01:28:52.141 --> 01:28:56.101
Do you wish there was a little more closure to that or do you think that's, you kinda forgot about it.

01:28:56.252 --> 01:28:58.442
It's just like, whatever, whatever.

01:28:58.442 --> 01:28:59.462
I mean, whatcha you gonna do about it now?

01:28:59.671 --> 01:29:00.362
Exactly.

01:29:00.511 --> 01:29:01.712
Be careful if you go back up there.

01:29:03.452 --> 01:29:05.881
There's definitely like some ghost haunting us now or something.

01:29:05.881 --> 01:29:09.721
Well, um, I guess, you know, thanks for being here.

01:29:09.721 --> 01:29:10.771
If anybody wants to follow.

01:29:11.101 --> 01:29:11.851
Thanks having your journey.

01:29:11.851 --> 01:29:11.912
Yeah.

01:29:12.087 --> 01:29:14.011
Do you got like a LinkedIn page or anything like that?

01:29:14.282 --> 01:29:14.342
Uh, yeah.

01:29:14.347 --> 01:29:15.511
Edward Reinhardt on LinkedIn.

01:29:15.542 --> 01:29:15.992
All right.

01:29:15.992 --> 01:29:16.171
Yeah.

01:29:16.261 --> 01:29:17.282
I also have Instagram.

01:29:17.372 --> 01:29:17.731
Alright.

01:29:17.792 --> 01:29:22.261
Uh, Edward Reinhart, do you wanna see pictures from the Cavaliers?

01:29:22.261 --> 01:29:23.101
Uh.

01:29:23.492 --> 01:29:25.216
Football season this fall, fall or anything like that?

01:29:25.231 --> 01:29:29.072
Think my Instagram's on private, but Oh, I'll, I'll, I'll accept, I'll accept most people.

01:29:30.511 --> 01:29:33.391
As long as you don't seem weird, you should keep it on private.

01:29:33.421 --> 01:29:34.652
Don't get my fans that crazy.

01:29:36.242 --> 01:29:37.561
Um, anything you wanna close with?

01:29:37.952 --> 01:29:38.942
Um, no.

01:29:38.942 --> 01:29:39.692
Thank you for having me.

01:29:39.692 --> 01:29:41.131
Yeah, this was a great opportunity.

01:29:41.162 --> 01:29:42.511
Um, love sharing my story.

01:29:42.511 --> 01:29:44.792
I love talking about Deca as you could tell.

01:29:45.061 --> 01:29:48.362
Um, if you know anyone in high school yeah, send'em to Deca.

01:29:48.362 --> 01:29:51.091
Send'em to Deca, uh, send'em this episode.

01:29:51.212 --> 01:29:55.622
We were talking in the break and Ava's dad told her to get into Deca and she's like, oh, those dorks.

01:29:55.622 --> 01:29:57.992
I would never, you never know.

01:29:57.992 --> 01:29:59.971
You might regret not doing it at some point, right?

01:29:59.971 --> 01:30:04.202
Well, you were calling'em dorks too before you turn into one and now you don't think it's like, you think it's cool.

01:30:04.322 --> 01:30:04.832
Okay.

01:30:04.832 --> 01:30:05.492
Last message.

01:30:05.492 --> 01:30:06.152
Drink the Kool-Aid.

01:30:06.181 --> 01:30:07.082
Drink the Kool-Aid.

01:30:07.681 --> 01:30:08.072
I love it.

01:30:08.551 --> 01:30:09.002
Thanks Edward.

01:30:09.002 --> 01:30:09.061
Yeah.

01:30:09.122 --> 01:30:09.721
Thank you guys.

01:30:09.721 --> 01:30:09.902
Speed.