EXPERIENCE 192 | It’s all about the EXPERIENCE! - Talking Food, Love, and Community with Juli Trujillo, Executive Chef and Juan Rodriguez, Business Manager, Co-Founders of Juli Y Juan’s Kitchen

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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I'm honored today to be joined by Huli Trujillo.

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And Juan Rodriguez.

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And they are the co founders, uh, Juli is the executive chef, and Juan is the make everything happen business manager and sous chef of really the best wedding and event catering business in northern Colorado, in my humble opinion.

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Uh, Juli, eh?

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E Huli, Ewan, kitchen.

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There you go.

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These panish, uh, ah, is thick with you guys.

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Here it is growing in us.

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It's, it's, I've always said Huli, yans, uh, because that's what your email, it's got a y between there.

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But you know what?

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When they ask me to spell, actually my company's name or my email is the same, I'm like, Huey at Huey.

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And I'm like, why?

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And they're like, W H Y.

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And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

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It's just the letter Y.

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Just the letter Y.

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And then J U A N.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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It's, I don't know what we were thinking when we put the name, but.

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I can tell you that if we had another opportunity, probably we would've put that Y in the middle.

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It would make our lives much easier.

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You do know, um, That you can change your business name and website and all that stuff.

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So, so, so, so the reason why we ended up with our name is because it doesn't matter what name we had before.

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Everybody will say, Oh yeah.

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Holy Juan.

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Holy Juan.

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And one day we were like, screw it.

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Let's just go.

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And now 10 years, it could have been amazing food catering or something like that.

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But it's, uh, they would always say, well, but you guys are, you know, Bigger than life.

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Like you're, you're part of the experience when you hire Julien Juan is, you know, the smiles and the hugs and the love that goes into the food and kind of spreads throughout the event.

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That's the idea, I guess.

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That's part of why I guess we put, it's all about the experience now.

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Yeah.

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And It really goes to how is it that we were able to, or we wanted to express what we'd love to do and the passion and everything that goes behind the food and all the journeys, spiritual or not, and all that kind of stuff.

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And so the experience is, it's a big part, but the experience of having us both is also, it's kind of like a double edged sword in one side.

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It's awesome.

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And it's amazing.

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And it's something fun that you can have, but on the other side, it's hard to replicate.

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How's that business?

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Right.

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There's definitely been a scale.

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Yes.

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And we've learned definitely a lot in the past 10 years.

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Like we've grown a beautiful brand, but at the same time, it's a business that at the heart of it is wanting myself.

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Right.

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So cloning yourself, uh, it's still not available.

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So it's kind of hard.

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Yeah.

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Dolly.

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We only got to Dolly the cheap.

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I know.

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Exactly.

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But, um, yeah.

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But yeah, it's been, it's been definitely fun.

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I mean, yeah, it's definitely all about the experience.

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And I guess at the beginning when it came to be all about the experience is because coming from the culture that we are, which is Latin, we are food is at the heart of everything that we do.

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It's an expression whether it's, you know, tradition or a celebration of life or whatever it is that you're doing.

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The food is something that it's core to a lot of our celebrations or traditions or moments in life.

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And when we experience what you guys do or what you guys had as a base here in the United States, we felt like we could enrich that base experience by, you know, adding a few of our personal touches.

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And that's, yeah, which is kind of like at the center of what, what we love about where we are here in the United States for us is that no, it's It's an enrichment of all the cultures in the world.

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That's what I feel.

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It's like the best embrace of the best of, it's like the best of everything in one place and it comes with its consequences.

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But I think if you see, um, you know, if, if you can take all the, the rich, the richness of every country and, and, and you kind of like put them together.

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It's, it's here, you know, and that's a little bit of what we wanted to bring in, in, in the whole idea of Only Juan's Kitchen and the experiences.

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The places that we already went in, in, in, in Mexico or in Colombia, in Latin America, all the parties that you over go, all that experience that we have over there.

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We wanted to see how is it that we can share it here because, because it was amazing, amazing memories and amazing food and amazing time.

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And, and we were like, you know, I think there's something that it's a little too boring around here for you.

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Yes.

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I don't know why.

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Well, it just is.

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I mean, I don't know if boring, but for example, when you, when you think, when you think of a wedding in Mexico, right, let's put a simple example, a wedding in Mexico, let's say that the actual ceremony starts at three We start our dinner at 10.

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The party finishes sometime until 2 in the morning.

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Like, we party from 2 that the ceremony starts and then you just, you know, everything starts to pile up.

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So our timeline on a wedding day, sometimes you can finish at 5 in the morning with chilaquiles or tortas or cochinita or esquites.

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Or sometimes we call it the tornavoda, which is You go and you have a horrible hangover and then you wake up early and then they give you chilaquiles or something else early and then they send off everybody from the party the next day with a breakfast.

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So we have a two day party sometimes in Mexico.

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So when you come to United States and they tell you that the venue you have it from twelve until ten, a hike.

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Great, at 10, we start partying at 10, like we're having dinner at 10 and you guys are literally shooting out people like, shoot, like you need to be out of here by 11.

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Oh, and since COVID, this country is even more dead after, like 10 o'clock at night on a Friday night.

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It's a ghost town almost, you know, anymore, I mean, and the bars are empty by 1130 a lot of times, they're not empty, but, you know, it used to be they were overflowing with, but I guess, you know, the kids have apps now, and they can just, you know, Find somebody to hook up with without having to go out there again.

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Honestly, it is different.

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Yeah, it is.

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It is very different.

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I mean, I enjoy what I had when I was growing up on all that aspect.

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We also had the opportunity to live in party towns, like tourist towns, like Playa del Carmen.

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I mean, in Playa del Carmen, who goes to bed at ten?

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Yeah, we lived there for ten years.

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You don't even see the sunrise on a party night.

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And That's, that's, you get used to that.

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I mean, I've heard, I've never been to Spain, but I've heard that in Spain is 11, 12, 1, and they're literally out on the streets enjoying their night.

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Yeah, well, even Alma's mentioned that even down in Mexico when she goes to visit family or friend things, like, At 11 o'clock at night, you can walk down to the corner and get some food at like five different places.

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The best places open up at 10.

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Nothing is open before that.

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You know what we're missing here that I think it will be fantastic in this, in the community culturally, which is sometimes we've gone, we've gone to places and we see it and we're like, Oh my God, which we had this in in the Fort Collin community.

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Everything is either in plazas.

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Or in the center of the town, there's no like, like, if I see the community where I live, fuck, I will wish I had like one of those houses or two or three or somewhere in there nearby walking, I can create, like, we can open up a little place.

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Why do we have to go to the plaza that it's, you know, driving distance?

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Why couldn't, you know, so I think like the diversification of, of, um, you know, I don't know how do you say this, but like, um, commercial residential and commercial land.

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It should be a little bit more mixed.

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So if we are, if it was a little bit more mixed, we could have more live around.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I agree with that.

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Like in my neighborhood is a, Old Town Westside, and we've got like the little restaurant there and the, the fresh foods market.

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And those are both about, you know, seven blocks away from my house.

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And I walk there with my dog, you know, not as often as he wishes, but, uh, it's a joy to have those little amenities right there.

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And it, and it promotes all the mamas and papas shop and all that kind of stuff.

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I think Sparks also, Like community, like community life within the community because you have this places like we grew up that like Juan was saying, you know, you have like the, como se dice, papeleria.

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Um, so where they sell all the school supplies, it's like where you buy all your supplies for the school.

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It would be like the staples from here, but not the office or the office Depot or office shop or whatever.

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But in a mini tiny garage of a house in that house, Kurt had no idea.

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Everything you would need for that Monday.

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From a potato chip and sodas to To, to the, um, we have, I don't know, there's a Pieces of paper that are printed that have information and you have to, you know, the, the school teacher tells you, Oh, you need to bring a monographia from the tough drop or the ice age.

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And then you go there and you're like, do you have one of these?

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And they're like, Oh, let me look.

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And they have like all the shit that you need from the eraser to the pencil sharpener.

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So you don't have to go to the office, but you just walk.

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Right.

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Obviously, it's exciting for nerds.

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Yeah, and then 10 blocks past that shop, there's another shop that's kind of like that.

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And you know, like the tiny corner store that also has those things.

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So, like, we bring more life to the communities, but I guess you get used to everything.

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We do miss that, and I feel it would be wonderful for us to have it.

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But at the same time, it also adds, you know, to the residential areas.

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Which is also fun.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, I agree.

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I agree.

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We have the mini golf in our neighborhood too.

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You got a mini golf?

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Oh, you don't know about the lightning mini golf?

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No.

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Oh, uh, yeah.

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There's ten, um, mini golf holes that are set up mostly in the, uh, You know, between the sidewalk and the street on the city property and it's there's free putters and you can donate like a monthly nonprofit and we've got the Jurassic Park hole in my front yard.

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So, um, we need to, we'll have you guys over.

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Oh, uh, put November 16 on your, well, you'll be busy.

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It's a Saturday, but not, not the weird.

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No, we have, we're going to be attending to a wedding, which we haven't done in quite a while.

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I want to say like eight, nine years was the last time we attended a wedding.

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This is one of our friends that worked with us at Holy Cross Kitchen.

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So he's getting married and it's weird.

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I guess at some point we were like, do you want us?

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Cause you know, the first time when a friend of ours gets married.

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It's like, Oh my God, you know, we would love to do your wedding and he's like, no, no, no, no, no.

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There's no way you're not going to be working that day.

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So it's nice.

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They recognize it.

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That's really cool.

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They want us dancing there.

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Well, uh, it will be our, what?

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Like, uh, 2007.

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Yeah.

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17th annual or something?

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Thanksgiving?

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We always have a big Thanksgiving party, but it's, uh, Wow! like 10 days before Thanksgiving, we fill our little Thanksgiving Yeah, we fill our little bungalow with like 25 or 35 people and, uh, I smoke a turkey, I roast a turkey, we make, uh, All the fixing, people bring stuff.

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But we'll have you over another time since you got to go.

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So I think I remember, um, before we even got started, you said that Juli and Juli Ijuan's kitchen, uh, started in Mexico.

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Is that what you said?

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Like that's where you were formerly and where you're planning to stay or what?

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Yeah.

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Tell me.

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We didn't, we didn't know what the hell we were doing.

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We, we were just gonna, we work for, for, uh, an American group of investors in Mexico for about 10 years.

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in Playa del Carmen they were building some sort of uh, last resort.

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Oh.

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Okay and and you guys were their food deliver people?

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Julie was uh, Julie was uh, exactly.

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And we will go back to the early days later, but yeah.

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Julie was the executive chef and I used to work in sales and kinda like, Selling the whole experience.

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So, so getting guests engaged in what was available and things like that.

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Make them fall in love with the region and who they will make them fall in love with the site and the food and the food being part of it.

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No, so I was super amazingly fun.

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So grateful.

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And we learned so much about the experience there.

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Sure.

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So much.

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And, uh, they're, they're a group here from Colorado.

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So we were always very.

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Uh, in tune with, with Colorados from there and people from Colorado.

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Oh, that was where the investment group was from.

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Yeah.

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That's gonna, how, that's what links it here.

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I was gonna say, that's what it brought us to Colorado.

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All of those beautiful people that we took care of them for so many years.

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Oh, interesting.

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The majority of them were from Colorado, like Colorado area.

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A lot of them obviously from Denver.

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Yeah, a few of them form Fort Collins and that's how we Oh, thank you Gabo.

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And that's how we.

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You're okay.

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She's got a big voice.

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I'm almost chewing the microphone.

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I even turned her down a little bit, but that's okay.

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Oh, wait, wait.

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Um, but that's what brought us here to Colorado.

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All the group of investors that we took care of them.

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And I mean, in Playa del Carmen, we, we were not wholly IJUAN's kitchen.

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Like it was not a company per se.

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We had a couple of, let's say, adventures in businesses.

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One of them was also a restaurant.

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So we were managing our own restaurant.

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We had a third partner back then.

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And then Juan and myself was, we were like a second job was handling this experience for this group of people.

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Um, and then obviously eventually.

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We set ourselves aside from the project.

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They could kind of stay there Lingering.

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They got kind of stuck.

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Yes, and we got tired, you know, real estate powers.

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New adventures.

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You're 30 years old or something I was trying to make my move on Julio for like Five, seven years.

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And then suddenly she's like, see you people.

00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:18.680
I'm leaving to Colombia.

00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:19.519
I'm going with Juan.

00:17:19.619 --> 00:17:21.069
I'm like, fuck no.

00:17:21.069 --> 00:17:21.859
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:17:21.859 --> 00:17:22.549
Oh, really?

00:17:22.940 --> 00:17:25.349
See, at this point I was not going with Juan anyway.

00:17:25.390 --> 00:17:27.579
I was, I was going on my own adventure.

00:17:27.750 --> 00:17:31.039
And then, and I had my own adventures there and all that kind of stuff.

00:17:31.109 --> 00:17:32.470
But we kind of knew there was something.

00:17:32.549 --> 00:17:34.420
So you knew each other, but didn't really.

00:17:34.490 --> 00:17:40.555
Uh, yeah, we, we have kind of like a, uh, How do you call that?

00:17:40.835 --> 00:17:42.214
Friend or Friend romance?

00:17:42.265 --> 00:17:43.194
Oh, go, go, go, go.

00:17:43.204 --> 00:17:45.174
I feel like, at least I'm gonna smoke this.

00:17:45.285 --> 00:17:46.684
Alright, we're in Mexico.

00:17:46.744 --> 00:17:47.244
I'll do a hit.

00:17:47.525 --> 00:17:47.884
Okay.

00:17:48.305 --> 00:17:49.454
You could be a one hitter quitter.

00:17:49.454 --> 00:17:50.125
Yes, exactly.

00:17:50.125 --> 00:17:51.505
I could be that person today.

00:17:51.505 --> 00:17:53.384
That was my one hit wonder.

00:17:53.464 --> 00:17:54.115
One hit wonder?

00:17:55.035 --> 00:17:58.144
One is still a one hit wonder.

00:17:58.144 --> 00:17:59.375
This is kind of a pin or two.

00:17:59.414 --> 00:17:59.765
Look at that.

00:17:59.765 --> 00:18:00.394
Perfect, perfect.

00:18:00.454 --> 00:18:05.890
That's like your old, like your old Uh, when we used to do more joints, they were always super thin.

00:18:06.029 --> 00:18:09.000
I like the pinners, you know, they just smoke easy.

00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.430
You don't have runners and stuff like that.

00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.859
I do the little packs now because, uh, like, Oh, you buy them pre rolled.

00:18:15.900 --> 00:18:16.609
No, no, no, no.

00:18:16.609 --> 00:18:19.779
The packs, you know, like, Oh, you buy the filter, you pack it yourself.

00:18:19.779 --> 00:18:20.049
Kind of thing.

00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:21.690
It's like, um, Oh, no.

00:18:21.730 --> 00:18:25.130
The thing that the vaporizer, but it burns the flour.

00:18:25.170 --> 00:18:25.450
Yes.

00:18:25.460 --> 00:18:27.720
Like it, it, uh, vaporizes the flour.

00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:28.569
It bakes it.

00:18:28.589 --> 00:18:28.849
Yeah.

00:18:28.849 --> 00:18:29.119
Yeah.

00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:30.009
Those are pretty cool.

00:18:30.105 --> 00:18:34.365
So, uh, I don't get such a high high, um, but it, it mellows.

00:18:34.664 --> 00:18:36.335
Well, you don't really get any tar to speak of.

00:18:36.335 --> 00:18:37.005
Exactly.

00:18:37.095 --> 00:18:38.575
And it's just more mellow for me.

00:18:38.605 --> 00:18:41.845
Otherwise my brain goes to corners that.

00:18:42.375 --> 00:18:51.795
Juan, if we smoke at a certain point and he, he takes a big hit, it would take, it would take like, Four to five hours to get him out of the really.

00:18:52.075 --> 00:18:58.785
So I'll be like, and he's like, Oh my God.

00:18:58.785 --> 00:19:01.208
In my own head.

00:19:01.208 --> 00:19:05.214
Like I try to start trying to fix everything in life.

00:19:05.454 --> 00:19:07.015
Have you done like mushrooms or anything?

00:19:07.015 --> 00:19:10.134
Yeah, I actually do more micro doses of mushrooms that we'd now.

00:19:10.894 --> 00:19:15.444
So in my, my Sundays, when we, Just gonna free ourselves from everything.

00:19:15.605 --> 00:19:24.075
Um, I take like a micro doses of, of wheat and and Juli does wheat.

00:19:24.365 --> 00:19:34.484
So, I mean a micro doses of, uh, of mushrooms and Juli does, no, I'll get one from, I got my, my own way of, Oh, you get a second hander.

00:19:34.515 --> 00:19:36.174
Oh, how cute is that?

00:19:37.684 --> 00:19:38.704
That's a micro dose right there.

00:19:38.704 --> 00:19:39.144
There you go.

00:19:41.224 --> 00:19:42.214
I don't think he can handle more.

00:19:42.434 --> 00:19:43.595
No, and more with alcohol?

00:19:43.744 --> 00:19:44.204
I dig it.

00:19:44.375 --> 00:19:45.204
I gotta keep it there.

00:19:47.115 --> 00:19:47.464
Yeah, I know.

00:19:47.494 --> 00:20:01.035
So anyway, so Juli's, like, you guys are working with this group, and you're at a restaurant, you got a partner, and So we had all of that going on with us, and then at some point when we set ourselves aside from the, from the project, I decided to make a change.

00:20:01.035 --> 00:20:02.825
I think Juan was going through his own thing.

00:20:02.845 --> 00:20:03.224
You're done.

00:20:03.404 --> 00:20:03.694
Yes.

00:20:03.714 --> 00:20:04.285
Thank you, Kurt.

00:20:04.484 --> 00:20:11.829
So he was going through his own thing, and then I decided that it was, At this point I've been in the industry, I want to say 14 years or so.

00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:17.390
So I haven't, you know, when you're a part of the industry, your birthdays, your mom's birthdays, your Christmases, all of those things.

00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:25.198
The fake, the fake Thanksgiving parties that you can't attend.

00:20:25.198 --> 00:20:25.740
Exactly.

00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:34.924
So I think I, I saw the opportunity that I could actually enjoy this part of my life again and just take a break from the industry without, you know, Without going too far.

00:20:34.924 --> 00:20:37.994
I mean, I love what I do and part of the service and the culinary industry.

00:20:37.994 --> 00:20:39.204
And are you from Colombia?

00:20:39.244 --> 00:20:39.474
Yes.

00:20:39.484 --> 00:20:41.634
Were you going back home in a manner of speaking then?

00:20:41.884 --> 00:20:42.615
Going home, home.

00:20:42.625 --> 00:20:46.134
Like, I was prepared to leave Mexico behind at that point.

00:20:46.174 --> 00:20:52.914
Um, my mom and my sister were still in Mexico, but I kind of wanted to go back to Colombia and, and be my roots and with my family.

00:20:52.914 --> 00:20:58.634
And I love how green, the green in Colombia is, and the food is just, it fills your heart in a different way.

00:20:58.634 --> 00:21:02.105
And we, We were just talking about this in a wedding on Saturday.

00:21:02.105 --> 00:21:07.875
I feel like Colombians, when we, when we, we love and hate intensely.

00:21:08.585 --> 00:21:08.615
Okay.

00:21:08.615 --> 00:21:09.384
Let's put it like that.

00:21:09.704 --> 00:21:17.625
And the love for the land is something that, it doesn't matter if you've been away from Colombia for 40 years, it still calls for you.

00:21:17.875 --> 00:21:18.055
Yeah.

00:21:18.055 --> 00:21:20.575
So, I was missing that part and I went back to Colombia.

00:21:20.845 --> 00:21:30.664
I kind of wanted to have, you know, A different project, and um, We've been, we've been in this project, well you've been in this project for ten, like eight, ten years at this point, so What project?

00:21:30.724 --> 00:21:31.484
In Sereno.

00:21:31.644 --> 00:21:32.305
Ah, yes, yes, in Cloud Economy.

00:21:32.305 --> 00:21:34.815
So you were, you were, you were very ready to, Right.

00:21:34.894 --> 00:21:37.384
And he was stalling a little bit, so.

00:21:37.634 --> 00:21:45.488
I was ready for a change, so I went to Colombia by myself, and Juan had his own journey, and when I landed in Colombia.

00:21:45.488 --> 00:21:46.276
His own journey.

00:21:46.276 --> 00:21:48.640
It seems like there's a story in there, too.

00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:55.194
Like journey as in shamanism, alternative medicine, as in a medicine man, the old way.

00:21:55.244 --> 00:21:55.684
Okay.

00:21:55.734 --> 00:21:56.704
So it was a journey.

00:21:57.789 --> 00:21:59.819
nothing to do with marketing and communication.

00:21:59.819 --> 00:22:04.170
It was more existential crisis kind of stuff.

00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:06.329
More experiential journey without a doubt.

00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:07.430
Yeah, fair.

00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:13.220
And then, um, so I went to Colombia and then at some point Juan and I obviously never let go of ourselves.

00:22:13.250 --> 00:22:17.130
We had a friend of Zon's while we were working together more than anything else.

00:22:17.130 --> 00:22:17.349
Yeah.

00:22:17.349 --> 00:22:17.619
Yeah.

00:22:17.819 --> 00:22:18.529
So.

00:22:18.884 --> 00:22:32.744
We kind of bonded and connected and we realized that the way that we thought and the way that we did everything and um, it was way more in tune than So you like, you like reached out or like snapchatted?

00:22:33.265 --> 00:22:34.575
We never let go, Kurt.

00:22:35.015 --> 00:22:35.634
We never let go.

00:22:35.724 --> 00:22:38.454
Were you like talking regularly while you were in Colombia and stuff?

00:22:38.605 --> 00:22:45.795
I, so the way I moved to Colombia is that I, I backpacked for three months through Central America to get my ass to Colombia.

00:22:45.795 --> 00:22:46.545
Oh wow.

00:22:46.575 --> 00:22:46.815
So.

00:22:47.134 --> 00:22:48.875
I was having my own journey.

00:22:48.924 --> 00:22:50.075
Yes, oh yeah, of course.

00:22:51.295 --> 00:22:55.605
So I was doing nothing while working on what is the next step for me.

00:22:55.615 --> 00:22:58.555
If it would have been recently, you would have been passing everybody going the other way.

00:22:58.555 --> 00:23:00.565
It would have been like a swimming upstream.

00:23:00.914 --> 00:23:01.005
Excuse me.

00:23:01.934 --> 00:23:03.115
I'm going down, you guys are going up.

00:23:03.984 --> 00:23:04.404
I'm heading back.

00:23:04.569 --> 00:23:05.230
The other way.

00:23:05.990 --> 00:23:08.680
Um, but so we were obviously talking throughout.

00:23:08.700 --> 00:23:10.150
I was doing that by myself.

00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:14.829
So I had some scary moments and you know, some moments that you're like, yeah, that's intense.

00:23:14.859 --> 00:23:15.190
Yes.

00:23:15.750 --> 00:23:17.480
Honestly, a lot of beautiful moments.

00:23:17.539 --> 00:23:21.309
I'm sure some of the scary, some of them I did feel lonely and Juan was always there for me.

00:23:21.309 --> 00:23:24.390
And we would reach out, you know, every week or so.

00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:24.609
Yeah.

00:23:24.609 --> 00:23:30.920
And in my own shamanic journey that it happens, you touch, you, you touch, uh, you get into.

00:23:31.694 --> 00:23:53.944
Realities that you normally don't, don't, well, you can ignore a lot of things sometimes, but not if you're, well, you're getting in touch with your, properly, yeah, you're getting in tune with, but just your emotional connection with life and earth and, and, and you kind of like block all the, all the noise that regular life like teaches you.

00:23:54.144 --> 00:23:54.384
Yeah.

00:23:54.444 --> 00:23:54.664
Yeah.

00:23:54.734 --> 00:23:55.515
Gets you swirled up in.

00:23:55.515 --> 00:23:55.835
Yeah.

00:23:55.845 --> 00:23:59.384
So literally in my meditations and blah, blah, blah.

00:23:59.765 --> 00:24:01.535
I would, I would feel Hooli struggling.

00:24:01.535 --> 00:24:02.865
You'd be like, oh, wow.

00:24:02.904 --> 00:24:04.214
So I would reach out.

00:24:04.214 --> 00:24:06.424
It would be really magical.

00:24:06.684 --> 00:24:08.835
I was thinking you were going to say like, Hooli is the answer.

00:24:09.964 --> 00:24:10.855
What is the question?

00:24:10.904 --> 00:24:14.075
Hooli was the answer.

00:24:14.075 --> 00:24:14.964
Hooli was the answer.

00:24:15.585 --> 00:24:17.744
Always and forever as long as I want to.

00:24:17.755 --> 00:24:20.005
She took my heart and then I was like, wait, wait.

00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.990
But I had to find myself first.

00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:22.470
Yeah.

00:24:22.470 --> 00:24:36.509
We were all in our personal journey, but at the end when, when we reached Colombian, um, we started working in a project together, which was called, I mean, if you translate it as like creative flavor, but it sounds so much better if you say SA TiVo.

00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.250
It just, it has a different tone to it.

00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:45.779
So we started working in sa, were literally classes, Kurt, so it was, uh, you keep going.

00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:46.200
Oh, okay.

00:24:46.539 --> 00:24:50.345
Um, so, we started doing this Thank you.

00:24:50.355 --> 00:24:58.684
We started doing these classes and we were basically, we rented this beautiful country house outside of Medellin, which is the city where I was born.

00:24:58.755 --> 00:24:59.954
It's like 40 minutes away from it.

00:24:59.954 --> 00:25:03.994
So people from the city in Colombia were very used to going to the country.

00:25:05.150 --> 00:25:14.490
To the country on the weekends, people have like, we went to Puerto Rico, uh, and like on the weekends, the city, people would go up into the mountains and go to dances and stuff like that.

00:25:14.789 --> 00:25:16.210
Basically we do the same thing.

00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:22.410
Like we leave the city and a lot of people have the opportunity to have small houses in the country.

00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:29.779
So you go to the country and you go for lunch and you go for coffee and you go for concerts and you just enjoy yourself out in the country and then you go back to the city.

00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:46.835
So we rented this beautiful house in the mountains of Colombia and we kind of, um, restructured the spaces inside the house, did a little bit of renovations so we could create like a scenario that we could hose 18 people sitting down on like a farm table, a long table with benches on the side.

00:25:47.164 --> 00:25:53.555
We put like a mirror on top of the, um, the stove space so everyone could watch where we're doing as we're doing it.

00:25:53.795 --> 00:25:55.434
We would bring them on this side.

00:25:55.434 --> 00:25:58.394
So it was really an experiential dining.

00:25:58.404 --> 00:25:59.154
Completely.

00:25:59.585 --> 00:26:01.375
It was like eight to ten hours.

00:26:01.375 --> 00:26:01.750
Where you wouldn't expect it.

00:26:01.940 --> 00:26:03.569
It was like 8 to 10 hours.

00:26:03.589 --> 00:26:04.309
Oh, dang.

00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:05.009
Just all day.

00:26:05.009 --> 00:26:06.599
And these are, are these like rich people?

00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.319
Is this super expensive?

00:26:08.380 --> 00:26:10.079
So we No, we were not charging.

00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:13.529
We didn't make any money, actually.

00:26:13.539 --> 00:26:14.180
No, no.

00:26:14.180 --> 00:26:15.069
We did not.

00:26:15.069 --> 00:26:16.307
We lost it all.

00:26:16.307 --> 00:26:18.130
But we did have all the rich people.

00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:19.049
We just didn't charge it.

00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:20.509
That's why you got them all.

00:26:20.509 --> 00:26:21.160
It was easy.

00:26:21.450 --> 00:26:22.420
We had all the market.

00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.804
We just never knew how to actually take advantage of it.

00:26:25.804 --> 00:26:27.579
We have to learn the business side.

00:26:27.579 --> 00:26:28.690
We're still learning it right now.

00:26:28.755 --> 00:26:30.244
I understand.

00:26:30.244 --> 00:26:33.285
In the United States, oh my God, it kicks you in the butt if you don't know it.

00:26:33.305 --> 00:26:39.634
But it's a beautiful place to learn that like, when, so we had savings from the work that we've done before with the other job.

00:26:39.634 --> 00:26:39.954
Okay.

00:26:40.095 --> 00:26:45.365
So when you have the money to back up your dreams, you never think about the financial aspect of your dream because.

00:26:45.789 --> 00:26:50.190
So you have that cover, you know, so it's not a neat mistake to all of you out there.

00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:50.980
Mistake.

00:26:52.099 --> 00:26:53.690
I'm coming from a spiritual journey.

00:26:53.690 --> 00:26:54.619
You don't care about that.

00:26:54.710 --> 00:26:55.069
Yeah.

00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:56.119
I'm going to be a chef.

00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:57.450
It's all going to be great.

00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:59.819
Mirrors over the stove.

00:26:59.819 --> 00:27:03.269
Life is wonderful and I only need to feel it.

00:27:03.339 --> 00:27:08.380
But had you only been just pushing a pencil to every event, you'd have been like, Oh, dang.

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:14.809
Between our marketing spend and our, and our food costs.

00:27:14.809 --> 00:27:16.000
Like we can't serve.

00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:16.549
No, no.

00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:23.380
Our friends that we had like recruit, like, like people that knew the numbers that had business, they were like, there's no way you're making it.

00:27:23.380 --> 00:27:25.076
You guys are not going to make it.

00:27:25.076 --> 00:27:29.150
We don't want you guys to go.

00:27:29.150 --> 00:27:32.799
Like, we want to keep coming to this and we know that you're, you're just.

00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:34.539
Well, and honestly, that's.

00:27:35.035 --> 00:27:56.605
Ben, probably the journey of your time, even here in Fort Collins, is learning how to finally price yourselves appropriately, um, because, you know, you can say, well, we're just building some market share, establishing a following, so that's why we're giving Kurt the hookup on tacos for, did you guys do the tacos for Tip's Tacos Tequila?

00:27:56.654 --> 00:27:57.444
I think you did.

00:27:57.565 --> 00:27:58.694
I don't, I don't even remember.

00:27:58.714 --> 00:28:00.684
At the Anosphere way back when.

00:28:01.244 --> 00:28:01.734
Anyway.

00:28:01.789 --> 00:28:04.900
Um, was I food, was I still food trucking when we first met?

00:28:04.910 --> 00:28:06.029
No, no, no.

00:28:06.109 --> 00:28:06.692
I was out of that.

00:28:06.692 --> 00:28:07.609
I had quit that.

00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.059
I think you had just quit that.

00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:14.099
And I was, was I, but I was probably selling life insurance and investments, but also local think tank.

00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:20.710
I think you were starting, I think it was like, I want to say like the first, first or second year max.

00:28:20.710 --> 00:28:21.457
For sure.

00:28:21.457 --> 00:28:22.203
For sure.

00:28:22.203 --> 00:28:24.380
You were still at the articulate.

00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:24.779
Right.

00:28:24.809 --> 00:28:28.460
And we would have whipped you into shape a lot faster had you joined, probably.

00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:29.430
Yeah.

00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:29.829
Kurt.

00:28:29.849 --> 00:28:30.940
Save you some headaches.

00:28:31.089 --> 00:28:31.369
Oh my God.

00:28:31.859 --> 00:28:32.450
You know what?

00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:34.390
Anyway, love you.

00:28:34.410 --> 00:28:51.819
No, but, but we can see like now when we look back into those opportunities, now we see them with a very different head because now we see the opportunity, not only the financial expense, which is as a business owner, when you're a small, you see the money and you're like, no, it doesn't make any sense.

00:28:51.849 --> 00:28:56.000
No, you, that money will allow you to do bigger things.

00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:56.700
It's an investment.

00:28:56.710 --> 00:28:57.839
You need to see it as an investment.

00:28:57.890 --> 00:28:58.390
But we.

00:28:58.549 --> 00:29:00.799
We didn't have the capacity, nor the mind, nor the maturity.

00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:11.140
When we were about to start here, a good friend of Uli, like his best friend, childhood kind of brother, uh, gave us a book that it's called The E Myth Entrepreneur.

00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:18.750
Well, we, I don't know what the hell we did with it because apparently we're reading it again and we did all the fucking mistakes All of it.

00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:21.900
We put ourselves into all the situations that we shouldn't have.

00:29:21.900 --> 00:29:28.538
And we're rereading it now and we're like, We're like hitting ourselves in the head like, Did we even listen to this book?

00:29:28.538 --> 00:29:30.726
Well, sometimes context is what's necessary.

00:29:30.726 --> 00:29:32.039
Well, now the book makes sense.

00:29:32.470 --> 00:29:33.519
I guess it didn't back then.

00:29:34.734 --> 00:29:42.075
I, I think from the outside looking in the last, you know, I think probably COVID and you guys had the kitchen and different things.

00:29:42.075 --> 00:29:44.105
You probably got the snot beat out of you a little bit.

00:29:44.194 --> 00:29:47.085
You know, you know how I feel, but I think you learned a lot.

00:29:47.095 --> 00:29:53.234
And I think you, I feel like you've turned the corner and now you're charging what you need to for the experiences that you can.

00:29:53.275 --> 00:29:53.694
Yeah.

00:29:53.944 --> 00:29:58.845
And, you know, at least maybe not getting rich, but at least not going back.

00:29:59.625 --> 00:30:02.224
We're definitely surviving, but we're learning how to do it better.

00:30:02.424 --> 00:30:03.414
This is how we feel.

00:30:03.444 --> 00:30:04.204
We.

00:30:04.670 --> 00:30:05.420
You know, we got it.

00:30:05.450 --> 00:30:08.029
We said, Holy shit, you know, it's fun.

00:30:08.029 --> 00:30:16.589
Our experiences and the community is so kind and has been so amazing to support us and giving us opportunities to do what we love to do and all that kind of stuff.

00:30:16.589 --> 00:30:16.779
No.

00:30:16.779 --> 00:30:20.089
And, and, and we were like, all right, I think we got enough business lists.

00:30:20.259 --> 00:30:23.319
Let's open up a place and grow it.

00:30:23.339 --> 00:30:24.740
And, you know, do all this.

00:30:25.339 --> 00:30:30.849
Uh, dream thing and, and, and have a, an actual kitchen of our own where we can move around and all that kind of stuff.

00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:39.549
We felt like two surfers going into the ocean and you're like looking at the waves and you're like, Damn, that looks beautiful.

00:30:39.549 --> 00:30:40.269
I'm going to get in.

00:30:40.309 --> 00:30:49.525
And before we knew it, You're reaching out for your bikini part because it's falling after the wave has just like And your surfboard's way over there.

00:30:50.214 --> 00:30:50.535
Broken.

00:30:51.505 --> 00:30:53.605
My shorts, my shorts are somewhere else.

00:30:53.694 --> 00:30:55.075
I think I saw a shark fin.

00:30:56.035 --> 00:30:59.894
I'm like shivering in the sand like, what the hell happened?

00:31:00.275 --> 00:31:02.404
Four years later, no, we got our ass whooped.

00:31:02.605 --> 00:31:03.894
Like, completely.

00:31:04.214 --> 00:31:04.585
There's no way.

00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.069
There is no shame on the game.

00:31:07.430 --> 00:31:13.009
We got our ass whooped, and Hooli opened up that book again, and we started reading it lately.

00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:19.339
And we started realizing Uh, like, and it just made sense, all the things that we should have done.

00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:31.910
So like you were saying, you know, we're, we're in this stage where we're pricing, uh, we figured out the pricing, but once you figured out the pricing, now you have to figure it out how to replicate it and there's no way to replicate.

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.130
Well, and how to sell it, right?

00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:39.049
Like I'm imagining probably it's too complicated to replicate it.

00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:43.299
So now we have, now we're in the, How can we simplify it?

00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.960
So we can share more of what we enjoy.

00:31:46.990 --> 00:31:47.440
I dig it.

00:31:47.690 --> 00:31:48.240
I dig it.

00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.309
Um, I wanted to ask about Columbia.

00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.220
While I'm thinking about it actually.

00:31:54.690 --> 00:32:01.184
Um, like You, uh, your, your physical appearance could be like European or something.

00:32:01.184 --> 00:32:04.394
Is Colombian very Spanish or a very what?

00:32:04.404 --> 00:32:07.684
Like what's the, I definitely do not look like the majority.

00:32:07.694 --> 00:32:10.795
You don't look like your accent at all and you're tall.

00:32:10.825 --> 00:32:12.305
Well, you're almost as tall as me.

00:32:12.424 --> 00:32:13.755
I'm Eastern European.

00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:21.786
If you hear my accent, well, and even just your, your physicality, you could be Polish or Czech or something like that.

00:32:21.786 --> 00:32:22.304
You know what?

00:32:22.304 --> 00:32:26.140
Like, Sikh food, red hair, I know, really Caucasian, but no, nothing else.

00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:27.380
Now you see why I went to Colombia?

00:32:27.430 --> 00:32:29.319
Yeah, I know, but Colombians do not look like this.

00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.180
No, no, Colombia.

00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:36.674
So I'm, I'm, um, I'm definitely not the, She's a camel in Colombia.

00:32:36.704 --> 00:32:36.984
Yes.

00:32:37.015 --> 00:32:38.345
I'm also a weird person.

00:32:38.345 --> 00:32:41.204
Like now that I was, I was just there visiting my mom.

00:32:41.244 --> 00:32:47.964
Um, and it's so funny because I was walking in the mall with my mom and she was like, why is everybody looking at you?

00:32:47.964 --> 00:32:50.244
And I'm like, I was wondering the same stupid shit.

00:32:50.434 --> 00:32:52.144
I'm like, why is everybody looking at me?

00:32:52.444 --> 00:32:54.615
But I dress differently.

00:32:55.105 --> 00:33:00.240
People there have a, a very conservative Regional.

00:33:00.930 --> 00:33:02.730
I was gonna go for the other thing.

00:33:02.740 --> 00:33:05.309
No more like more like women in Colombia.

00:33:05.309 --> 00:33:06.170
Okay, let's put it like this.

00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:10.049
Um Culturally women in Colombia are known for being very beautiful.

00:33:10.059 --> 00:33:13.970
All right, and very voluptuous Yes, so we have a lot of front and a lot of back.

00:33:14.289 --> 00:33:18.259
I have neither of those I have neither of those I mean, some.

00:33:18.269 --> 00:33:19.220
I said some.

00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:20.559
Just enough for me.

00:33:20.630 --> 00:33:22.589
Okay, just enough, but not Colombian.

00:33:22.589 --> 00:33:23.359
Colombian stereotypes.

00:33:23.390 --> 00:33:24.079
No, agreed.

00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:24.539
Yeah, yeah.

00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:27.884
Usually, uh, you're thinking of the wah wah wah.

00:33:27.884 --> 00:33:29.327
Exactly, exactly, exactly.

00:33:29.327 --> 00:33:30.299
Yeah, yeah.

00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:32.430
Have you ever thought about trying to get your booty bigger?

00:33:33.859 --> 00:33:37.960
I work on my booty, but I don't have the Colombian food to keep me going.

00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.559
I need the good dairy, the good bread that I don't eat as often.

00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:49.700
But um, No, but can I back up a step and just talk about Colombia as a nation, um, like, cause I've hosted a couple of Brazilian exchange students.

00:33:49.710 --> 00:33:56.775
So I know a fair bit about kind of the, the makeup, the cultural and the regions and like, Is, was it Spanish?

00:33:56.785 --> 00:33:58.285
We are very It's not Portuguese.

00:33:58.295 --> 00:34:01.855
No, so Spanish settled, but also Definitely Spanish.

00:34:01.865 --> 00:34:06.964
So, the thing that happened in Colombia is that we were conquered by the Spanish people just like Mexicans did.

00:34:07.325 --> 00:34:22.635
But the difference between what happened in Mexico and what happened in Colombia is that in Mexico there was a mix between the Spanish, Spanish people that came, got, you know, They get mixed with the indigenous people and produce the mestizo, which is the mestizo, which is one.

00:34:22.704 --> 00:34:26.885
Yeah, well, the Mayans are a little different part of the mix too in Mexico, right?

00:34:26.934 --> 00:34:32.474
Well, so you have different, the Mayans, the Mayans have a very particular, uh, physical aspect.

00:34:32.684 --> 00:34:33.994
Filipino almost or something.

00:34:34.005 --> 00:34:34.724
With, with, yeah.

00:34:34.724 --> 00:34:40.155
And the neck is definitely shorter and they have like the, the, The forehead is tilted to the back.

00:34:40.175 --> 00:34:53.264
Anyway, so they got mixed and it gave us the Mexican race, which who we are right now But within the Mexicans you'll have you also have a lot of Mexicans that look Spanish in Colombia We did not get any type of mix.

00:34:53.375 --> 00:34:57.574
We just they eradicated our native people Oh, really?

00:34:57.574 --> 00:35:00.300
So that's so we became Spanish.

00:35:00.340 --> 00:35:00.739
Really?

00:35:02.389 --> 00:35:03.079
I had no idea.

00:35:03.139 --> 00:35:05.519
And Mexico did got a lot mixed.

00:35:05.610 --> 00:35:06.659
So here's the thing.

00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:11.849
In Colombia Well, cause all these Spanish soldiers in Mexico are like The Aztecs were badasses.

00:35:11.860 --> 00:35:12.199
Right.

00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:14.619
They couldn't conquer them completely.

00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:15.150
Right.

00:35:15.349 --> 00:35:21.650
We always say it, love, love broke a lot of the barriers, like, uh, the Spanish started falling in love with the natives.

00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:25.110
Well, and partly because there's, you No other women around either.

00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:51.420
Whereas Columbia was like settled by families and stuff quickly after the military was the main poured for all the slave trades, trade, trade, sorry, on the way to us or on the way to Brazil, because Brazil must've had a lot of slaves too, because they've got a very, Black Colombian population.

00:35:51.630 --> 00:35:55.340
So let's say that Brazil has 60 percent of the population.

00:35:55.340 --> 00:35:56.159
Let's say that it's black.

00:35:56.269 --> 00:35:59.090
Columbia has 40, almost 40 percent of our population is black.

00:35:59.849 --> 00:36:08.300
So we are, we are Caucasian and we are black and our indigenous is very little because it's, it was almost eradicated.

00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:11.909
So the mix in Columbia that you see, you see mulattoes.

00:36:12.019 --> 00:36:14.650
It's from black and white people getting married together.

00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:18.989
Yeah, that's why the Colombians got all into the drug trade good, cause they're just more business like about it.

00:36:18.989 --> 00:36:25.000
Well, because it rains, it rains every day in the jungle, so you don't have to create a water system.

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.565
So you just throw whatever and it grows and the earth is beautiful.

00:36:28.565 --> 00:36:34.780
In Colombia, you spit on the So it's like the California of, uh, should be, what California should be.

00:36:35.250 --> 00:36:39.289
And the jungle is so dense that there's no way, uh, society can get into it.

00:36:39.300 --> 00:36:39.650
So Right.

00:36:40.650 --> 00:36:43.230
They'll get into places where you wouldn't make it.

00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:48.559
So yeah, yeah, you know, Colombian people are very smart for their own good.

00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:49.449
Very creative.

00:36:49.619 --> 00:36:52.420
And then we are physically strong people.

00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:57.530
And on top of that, our history, like our history as a, as a country.

00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.014
I mean, we were in a.

00:36:59.594 --> 00:37:10.485
in a civil war for, I don't know what, what was like 60, 65 years with the guerrilla guerrillas and the coke and all the marijuana and all of those things that thanks to Pablo Escobar and everybody before and after him.

00:37:10.594 --> 00:37:10.965
Sure.

00:37:11.235 --> 00:37:12.445
We have all of that.

00:37:12.445 --> 00:37:17.324
So Colombians have been As a race, we know what struggle means.

00:37:17.335 --> 00:37:20.204
So we're very, you know, think about it.

00:37:20.204 --> 00:37:25.114
How are race relations in Colombia, like the black populace with versus the area?

00:37:25.144 --> 00:37:34.005
That's actually a very interesting question, because I recently learned through my best friend, um, that I was born and raised in Colombia, but I was only there until I was 11.

00:37:34.025 --> 00:37:37.440
So the way I perceive race, very different.

00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.909
When I was a kid, I didn't see any racism.

00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:41.590
I honestly didn't live it.

00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:42.579
It wasn't a part of my life.

00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:44.190
My mom never put that into me.

00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:46.179
It wasn't part of my family values or anything like that.

00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.219
So it was never a part of my life.

00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.840
So I grew up thinking that Columbia didn't have any problem with racism.

00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:52.699
Yeah.

00:37:52.699 --> 00:38:01.829
Only to realize that my almost 40, that it is a very different subject when it comes to actual finding a work and moving in society when you're an adult.

00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:11.474
And that was, shown to me in a recent trip that we had that is, unfortunately, it seems like it is similar to what we live here in the United States.

00:38:11.704 --> 00:38:13.324
At least the perception is anyway.

00:38:13.414 --> 00:38:13.885
Yes.

00:38:13.934 --> 00:38:17.204
So I guess there is a problem about race.

00:38:17.235 --> 00:38:21.275
Um, it's not as common as we would like it to be.

00:38:21.275 --> 00:38:34.985
It's not like It's not like, exactly, like here in the United States that you know, you know that we have a problem, perhaps in Colombia there is a problem but we don't talk about it as much, or we don't bring it up to light as much.

00:38:34.985 --> 00:38:42.045
Well and like, I think it's a problem maybe regionally, like do you think, Racism is a problem in Northern Colorado.

00:38:42.045 --> 00:38:44.534
Do you feel like that?

00:38:44.534 --> 00:38:44.824
I don't know.

00:38:44.855 --> 00:38:45.864
Cause I mean, you don't see a lot.

00:38:45.864 --> 00:38:46.755
I haven't perceived it.

00:38:46.775 --> 00:38:48.425
You don't see a lot of diversity.

00:38:48.465 --> 00:38:48.914
No.

00:38:48.925 --> 00:38:49.485
Around here.

00:38:49.485 --> 00:38:49.855
So.

00:38:49.885 --> 00:38:56.284
But I think when there are blacks or Latinos or different things like that, I think it's almost celebrated in some respects.

00:38:56.284 --> 00:38:57.704
I don't see anything here.

00:38:57.715 --> 00:38:58.525
Maybe that's me.

00:38:58.565 --> 00:38:58.965
I don't know.

00:38:59.005 --> 00:39:00.105
I, we, uh, so.

00:39:00.324 --> 00:39:00.684
I don't know.

00:39:00.724 --> 00:39:03.764
I'm just asking because I'm not asking for a friend.

00:39:03.764 --> 00:39:03.945
Of course.

00:39:03.945 --> 00:39:04.375
Of course.

00:39:05.364 --> 00:39:07.824
So for example, as, um, well.

00:39:08.230 --> 00:39:11.360
Let's say in my case, I don't look Latin, right?

00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:15.769
When you start talking to me, I am very proud of who I am.

00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:19.400
And I'm, I mean, I have Columbia even tattooed on my body.

00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:21.699
I love my country, my culture, and I don't care.

00:39:22.139 --> 00:39:30.190
Like it for, if you're in a naughty kid, uneducated people, I'm just going to say the first thing that you're come to me and say, if you know that I'm Columbia is like, Oh my God, the Coke there is so good.

00:39:30.219 --> 00:39:31.309
I have never fucking tried.

00:39:32.809 --> 00:39:33.909
And I am Colombian.

00:39:33.909 --> 00:39:36.960
And I'm proud to say that, you know, that has nothing to do with who I am.

00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:37.579
As.

00:39:37.969 --> 00:39:38.780
From, from, of course.

00:39:38.784 --> 00:39:38.864
Yeah.

00:39:39.304 --> 00:39:39.425
Columbia.

00:39:39.565 --> 00:39:39.784
No.

00:39:39.784 --> 00:39:39.905
Yeah.

00:39:39.905 --> 00:39:39.905
Yeah.

00:39:39.949 --> 00:39:49.730
Like if you ask me, I would bring out our textiles, our biodiversity, our fauna, our flora, our coffee, our, you know, dances, the music, our dancing, the music.

00:39:50.300 --> 00:39:52.849
So much more to the topic in the conversation.

00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:53.630
Oh, for sure.

00:39:53.630 --> 00:39:53.900
Yeah.

00:39:53.900 --> 00:39:55.099
No, no disagreement.

00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.199
The stigmas are, but we have.

00:39:57.965 --> 00:39:58.625
Oh, yeah.

00:39:58.625 --> 00:40:08.795
So you feel like because of, Oh, no, Cord, yes, they have something to me that they have even called me a wetback and they're literally leaving anything coming to the country lately.

00:40:08.804 --> 00:40:13.094
Like they're telling me like, Oh my God, lately in here in Northern Colorado, Oh, no shit.

00:40:13.284 --> 00:40:15.454
On a networking event, probably.

00:40:16.135 --> 00:40:24.434
So kind of this, this nasty talk around elections and illegal immigration has got people twisted around their own axles kind of in their thoughts.

00:40:24.465 --> 00:40:34.724
So unfortunately, I, and we understand all of those things, yeah, it doesn't happen often and it's only been a couple of times, but it's not in existence.

00:40:34.735 --> 00:40:44.449
I think, uh, I think the entitlement has probably become more, I think that, yeah, the entitlement of, of, of, uh, I don't know.

00:40:44.449 --> 00:41:02.679
I just feel like it lures you, you know, when people hear stories about, you know, literally hundreds and thousands of millions of people getting like free housing for quite a while and stuff like that, it's like, well, my family waited for seven years, I think we're in a, we're in a moment where like.

00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:07.599
You know, when, when we didn't have books and, and suddenly we had the printing press and now there's books.

00:41:07.909 --> 00:41:14.000
I, I, I assure you that there are books that speak, spoke about reality and books that didn't spoke about the reality.

00:41:14.389 --> 00:41:17.949
So there was, there was manipulation because there was a new medium of manipulation.

00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:18.250
Yeah.

00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.469
Social media has become also that.

00:41:20.704 --> 00:41:23.954
So it's, it's totally, you know, the internet was like that.

00:41:23.954 --> 00:41:30.195
I mean, a long time ago in the internet, you will find all this crazy stuff until it started getting regulated.

00:41:30.255 --> 00:41:32.425
Radio happened the same TV happened the same.

00:41:32.715 --> 00:41:34.775
So I think we're getting into this and.

00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:41.150
So you think it's good that kind of the internet's being brought under control a little more, or?

00:41:41.179 --> 00:41:44.320
I think, I think that what it does, it's a megaphone.

00:41:44.460 --> 00:41:47.880
And who you are, you're able to expand your voice.

00:41:48.530 --> 00:41:53.489
I don't think that good or bad should always be the thing that it needs to be.

00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.719
It's you are who you are, I root for you.

00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:05.199
For what I root and I root for what for my beliefs of kindness and I and I judge based on kindness and based on love and not every but not everybody does that.

00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:06.969
And they're entitled to do that.

00:42:06.969 --> 00:42:14.599
And I think unfortunately, but they're very loud and they tell you that they tell you that that you know what they feel and because you're not used to it.

00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:20.230
So fine, you know, if you don't learn not to take it personal, they can speak whatever they want to speak.

00:42:20.670 --> 00:42:24.074
It says that usually they're They're louder than we are.

00:42:24.074 --> 00:42:30.335
Like, for example, we are more, um, not assertive, but, um, reticence.

00:42:30.414 --> 00:42:31.465
I don't know if it's the right word.

00:42:31.465 --> 00:42:36.855
Like, before we speak something, you kind of think and you're like, is it worth for me to say this?

00:42:36.864 --> 00:42:43.079
But they, I feel like the people that want to offend you and use this type of tools, they have no process of thinking.

00:42:44.050 --> 00:42:47.719
acting, you know, they just feel and just spit up the shit.

00:42:48.309 --> 00:42:50.900
I think anger, anger slips faster than anything else.

00:42:50.909 --> 00:43:00.039
So if somebody is angry, uh, and then your president is, is talking angry, it was definitely, they're going to feel like they can speak the same language.

00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:07.469
And, and whether, you know, They think about it that they're hurting or not hurting or this, maybe that just gets overwrote, overrided in a way.

00:43:07.489 --> 00:43:09.260
And I've seen this change.

00:43:09.510 --> 00:43:12.019
Like I've seen this change in the United States in the last 10 years.

00:43:12.019 --> 00:43:17.989
And I, I remember telling Julio since the last, you know, few whole political things.

00:43:18.019 --> 00:43:21.090
And I'm like, I'm sorry, but this is not the United States that I grew up with.

00:43:21.809 --> 00:43:28.420
And, and it's sad, but I also believe that, um, you know, democracy, it's an organism.

00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:38.030
So it needs to, it has a flu and whether we die with the flu or we get better and we, and we outgrow this.

00:43:38.050 --> 00:43:42.170
So besides the politics all over the world, it doesn't matter where you go.

00:43:42.179 --> 00:43:51.349
Even like, for example, if we compare, cause we do that, I have family in Colombia, we have family in Mexico and we're comparing that all the time because we are, we have the opportunity that, you know.

00:43:51.849 --> 00:43:55.278
If shit hits the fan, you have another two countries.

00:43:55.278 --> 00:43:57.356
I'm going to North Dakota.

00:43:57.356 --> 00:43:59.900
Well, that could be another whole country.

00:44:00.230 --> 00:44:00.719
Pretty much.

00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:02.440
Nobody really cares about it.

00:44:02.730 --> 00:44:03.460
Do you need a passport?

00:44:04.929 --> 00:44:05.449
Not yet.

00:44:05.510 --> 00:44:06.619
You need a snowmobile.

00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.880
We always used to joke that, uh, if the U.

00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:10.050
S.

00:44:10.059 --> 00:44:12.190
got too crazy, we could just become part of Canada.

00:44:13.019 --> 00:44:17.440
But now I'm like, no, Canada's pretty freaking far out.

00:44:17.945 --> 00:44:19.295
I don't want to be a part of that either.

00:44:19.494 --> 00:44:20.125
No, no, no.

00:44:20.914 --> 00:44:23.045
Like, why wouldn't they want global warming in Canada?

00:44:23.514 --> 00:44:26.144
I know, well, anyway, I digress.

00:44:26.204 --> 00:44:29.375
It would be very convenient for them, definitely, definitely.

00:44:29.775 --> 00:44:31.635
Um, so I want to talk about food.

00:44:31.945 --> 00:44:32.385
Alright.

00:44:32.474 --> 00:44:38.664
So, like, how would you, oh, and by the way, so you're from Mexico Juan, not to ignore.

00:44:39.105 --> 00:44:40.985
No, no, it's just more interesting, always.

00:44:41.135 --> 00:44:42.034
For sure, for sure.

00:44:42.045 --> 00:44:44.414
But what, what part of, what part of Mexico?

00:44:44.635 --> 00:44:53.525
Uh, I was, uh, I was born actually in La Jolla in California and then raised in Mexico my mom is Mexican my dad's American Oh, so you're American by birth?

00:44:53.534 --> 00:44:54.695
Yes, originally.

00:44:54.695 --> 00:44:56.835
So you didn't have any trolls with the citizenship thing.

00:44:56.844 --> 00:45:07.760
Well, she didn't have any troubles They gave him more trouble We'll get, we'll get, there's a lot of Juan Rodriguez.

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.300
I already had that with my parents.

00:45:09.300 --> 00:45:11.119
There's a hundred Juan Rodriguez's.

00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:17.579
It's the most boring name in the world, but I guess that they had the reason.

00:45:17.610 --> 00:45:26.380
So, uh, yeah, I was, so I was born in California and then raised in Baja in the North part and then moved to Mexico city.

00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.150
He's a port, a port boy.

00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:28.559
Yeah.

00:45:28.610 --> 00:45:30.190
I grew up in a port, beautiful port.

00:45:30.260 --> 00:45:32.280
And then, uh, then I moved to.

00:45:32.909 --> 00:45:34.289
Uh, the United States came back.

00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:40.070
So having the dual citizenship, I'm able to, my territory goes from the U S all the way to Guatemala.

00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:43.190
So I can actually go up and down and it's, it's actually pretty cool.

00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:48.545
And, and I, you can kind of bounce all around, but, uh, Yeah.

00:45:48.574 --> 00:45:52.574
Well, we're going to get to, uh, we're going to jump in the time machine and go to like first grade here.

00:45:52.574 --> 00:45:54.795
But I do want to talk about food first.

00:45:54.795 --> 00:45:59.355
Like how would you describe your style and major influences?

00:45:59.355 --> 00:46:00.954
Did you go to culinary school?

00:46:01.795 --> 00:46:02.244
I did.

00:46:02.244 --> 00:46:02.605
I did.

00:46:02.605 --> 00:46:08.934
I went to culinary school for four years in Mexico city and, uh, it was a beautiful experience.

00:46:08.974 --> 00:46:20.210
I think, um, I'm grateful for everything that it gave me, my school, like the technical part, the, the history part about how we came to be in the cultures and the clashes and all of those things are very interesting.

00:46:20.210 --> 00:46:25.539
But when it comes to becoming the chef that I am, it definitely has to do with life experiences.

00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.889
Like I graduated 20 years ago from college and I went to college for four years.

00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.989
So, you know, at this point, college is, that was a foundation.

00:46:34.394 --> 00:46:34.965
Exactly.

00:46:34.974 --> 00:46:38.114
But everything else that has happened has made me the person that I am today.

00:46:38.155 --> 00:46:47.364
Um, when it comes to Colombian bases, I think that we rediscover Colombian gastronomy or culture in the past.

00:46:47.364 --> 00:46:51.085
So you would say your food is particularly inspired Colombian right now?

00:46:51.255 --> 00:47:05.585
No, you know what, Kurt, I think if we were to, like, if I was to, if I was to, if I was to say what is my biggest influence, would that without a doubt, it would be Mexican, Mexican food.

00:47:05.684 --> 00:47:05.885
Okay.

00:47:06.074 --> 00:47:09.114
Mexican food is, and I'm grateful for it because.

00:47:09.869 --> 00:47:13.079
One of the reasons why I love it so much is that it's not only Mexican.

00:47:13.090 --> 00:47:18.420
Mexican is ancestral cuisine from the Aztecs and the Mayans and all of them that had different things.

00:47:18.449 --> 00:47:18.730
Right.

00:47:18.969 --> 00:47:24.340
And on top of that, we were kind of a fusion of sorts.

00:47:24.340 --> 00:47:27.340
We were conquered there, but then by the Spanish people.

00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.360
And then at some point we were also conquered by the French people.

00:47:30.389 --> 00:47:32.019
And then you also have Danish.

00:47:32.090 --> 00:47:35.380
And then, and then we also had all the immigrants, French people conquered.

00:47:35.420 --> 00:47:38.159
Yes, we had, we had an emperor.

00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:46.110
We had an emperor living in Mexico City with his wife that after that he was unfortunately killed by a peloton.

00:47:48.405 --> 00:47:49.184
Uh, platoon?

00:47:49.465 --> 00:47:50.114
A bicycle.

00:47:50.425 --> 00:47:50.635
No.

00:47:50.635 --> 00:47:51.144
Peloton?

00:47:51.144 --> 00:47:52.625
No, uh, platoon.

00:47:52.675 --> 00:47:53.215
Oh, platoon.

00:47:53.414 --> 00:47:54.125
Like the firing platoon?

00:47:54.465 --> 00:47:54.704
Yeah.

00:47:55.735 --> 00:47:56.925
Anyway, um, so.

00:47:56.925 --> 00:47:57.594
Firing squad.

00:47:57.655 --> 00:47:58.144
There we go.

00:47:58.195 --> 00:47:58.934
Firing squad.

00:47:58.934 --> 00:47:59.625
That's the right word.

00:47:59.724 --> 00:48:11.155
So, anyway, when it comes to Mexican cuisine, I feel blessed because everybody loves Mexican Just in the journey of being a chef and working in Mexico, you are exposed to so many different other cultures, uh, even Asian.

00:48:11.175 --> 00:48:19.875
I mean, Mexico has the sushi restaurants in Mexico are ridiculous because our flavors and their flavors pair beautifully.

00:48:19.885 --> 00:48:41.784
So Only by exploring the Mexican cuisine, I feel like I also have French bases, Spanish bases, ancestral cuisine, and I have the Asian one, and I have a little bit of you, and now because I'm Colombian, I have that part as well, and we've been exploring, and here in the United States, in the past 10 years, when we got here, Kurt, I had no clue what a brisket was, how to eat it, how to cook it.

00:48:41.784 --> 00:48:43.605
People were like, Oh my God, you have to try it.

00:48:43.605 --> 00:48:45.364
And all the bacon that we tried in Texas.

00:48:45.375 --> 00:48:53.259
When we first tried the bacon in Texas, I was like, it was like 10 bacons of Mexico stuck together into one.

00:48:53.259 --> 00:48:55.371
Just like a steak of bacon.

00:48:55.371 --> 00:48:57.014
It was fucking amazing.

00:48:57.534 --> 00:48:58.275
Amazing.

00:48:58.324 --> 00:49:07.655
But so nowadays I feel like our bases are definitely Mexican, but we are exploring, we've been enjoying the American culture and the American cuisines.

00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.570
It's been super fun and playful.

00:49:10.570 --> 00:49:12.440
Because everything here is super meat.

00:49:12.579 --> 00:49:13.320
Meat, meat, meat, meat.

00:49:13.329 --> 00:49:13.739
Right.

00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.900
Slow cooks, uh, you know, smokes.

00:49:16.900 --> 00:49:16.965
Sauces.

00:49:16.965 --> 00:49:24.244
Marinades, dry rubs, and a lot of stuff with Oh, let me get you some Steak Shake, by the way.

00:49:24.335 --> 00:49:26.284
I've got my No Mistakes Everything Shake.

00:49:26.284 --> 00:49:27.474
Have I given you one of those before?

00:49:28.054 --> 00:49:33.092
Oh, it's like a, you can put it on ribs, you can put it on vegetables, your eggs, your steak.

00:49:33.092 --> 00:49:34.206
You can put it in your sandwich.

00:49:34.206 --> 00:49:34.523
Yeah, whatever.

00:49:34.523 --> 00:49:37.164
You can put it on a shoe sole, put it on the grill, lick it later.

00:49:37.164 --> 00:49:38.445
It's that good.

00:49:38.514 --> 00:49:43.545
That's how I describe the, uh The tortillas over at, uh, uh, Los Cuatros.

00:49:43.554 --> 00:49:52.324
Yeah, cause that was who I used when I had a food trailer and I was like, you could literally put shoelaces in these tortillas and serve them to people and they'd be like, Oh, these are good.

00:49:53.554 --> 00:49:58.105
The owner, Don Luis, he does a great, those are the only tortillas that we bring to our events.

00:49:58.114 --> 00:50:02.074
Las Cuatro Américas, because they actually brought the machine from Mexico.

00:50:02.074 --> 00:50:06.394
I mean, you walk into that store and it's like, it's quickies and everything, it's quickies in.

00:50:06.855 --> 00:50:09.934
No, no, it's it's the only way that uh, excuse me.

00:50:10.005 --> 00:50:24.710
No, no, it's a good It's beautiful it's part of the community and it's the only ones the only tortillas that last so increasingly Kind of American, uh, influence and flavor.

00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:25.909
Are you smoking things?

00:50:25.980 --> 00:50:27.789
Are you doing, uh, doing that?

00:50:27.829 --> 00:50:28.090
You know what?

00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:29.409
We've never Brisket?

00:50:29.510 --> 00:50:33.409
No, we haven't explored We have our own weird way of doing things.

00:50:34.389 --> 00:50:35.570
We haven't explored the smoking.

00:50:35.579 --> 00:50:40.130
The smoking, we haven't, um, first of all, because I don't feel like we know enough.

00:50:40.349 --> 00:50:43.969
So you would have to learn a little bit before you can actually smoke.

00:50:45.065 --> 00:50:45.235
Right.

00:50:45.465 --> 00:50:59.449
Because feeding 100 to 150 people is a big responsibility and getting there with a really dry brisket that only tastes like smoke would be a horrible thing, but we figured out how to do things where I don't know if it's, it's a French thing.

00:50:59.460 --> 00:51:01.309
The one that we do, it's like a French thing.

00:51:01.309 --> 00:51:11.170
So we try to incorporate methods of cooking, like the barbacoa, which are long, slow steam on the ground, which we can do, but then the French people have a different way to do it.

00:51:11.170 --> 00:51:14.280
They use the Dutch ovens and the cast irons with the ceramic enamel.

00:51:14.739 --> 00:51:17.559
So we found a way, I use those things a lot as well.

00:51:18.610 --> 00:51:24.030
Jill gave me the biggest, uh, Dutch oven pot for Christmas last year.

00:51:24.030 --> 00:51:24.389
It's like.

00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.050
This big and this deep.

00:51:26.070 --> 00:51:27.570
Uh, it's like the white one that we have.

00:51:27.579 --> 00:51:28.989
Yeah, it's so nice.

00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:37.719
Those, I mean, you put anything in there and you can just forget it and it will make the throw a chunk of any meat and a bunch of vegetables and some broth and some herbs, fresh herbs in there.

00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.199
And you rub it with, you know, whatever it is that you want to rub it with.

00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.369
Nothing, and you just leave it on the stove and that thing makes magic.

00:51:42.380 --> 00:51:45.380
Well, in the, the, uh, we have a, uh, wood stove.

00:51:45.775 --> 00:51:51.570
And so I love, like, watching football all Sunday and my Dutch oven is just kind of simmering away on the stove top.

00:51:51.570 --> 00:51:52.925
Making sure that it doesn't get too dry.

00:51:52.925 --> 00:51:53.394
Yeah.

00:51:53.394 --> 00:51:56.715
Man, if you have a wood stove, then you don't need anything else.

00:51:56.735 --> 00:51:58.885
That and a Dutch oven will make all the magic that you need.

00:51:58.885 --> 00:52:01.195
We'll have you guys over for dinner sometime soon.

00:52:01.644 --> 00:52:02.307
I'll cook for you.

00:52:02.307 --> 00:52:03.114
Hopefully for a wood something.

00:52:03.114 --> 00:52:04.474
You've cooked for me quite a few times.

00:52:04.474 --> 00:52:06.175
I've never probably cooked for you.

00:52:06.215 --> 00:52:10.675
Yeah, it's, it's, um, it's not something that a lot of people want to do voluntarily.

00:52:10.675 --> 00:52:11.485
Cook for a chef.

00:52:11.505 --> 00:52:13.005
You know, I'm going to put chef Corduco.

00:52:13.034 --> 00:52:14.005
Oh, I'm not scared.

00:52:14.005 --> 00:52:14.885
I'm not scared.

00:52:15.030 --> 00:52:19.760
You, everybody knows how to do something amazing, amazing.

00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:28.130
And we're like, I'm going to tell you, we eat quesadillas, which is a tortilla and a cheese on any hot surface that you want to put, it can be a microwave.

00:52:28.139 --> 00:52:31.619
And we literally eat quesadillas at least three to four times a week.

00:52:31.619 --> 00:52:36.369
We call it quesadillas, it doesn't need to be complicated.

00:52:36.380 --> 00:52:37.599
It needs to come from the heart.

00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.559
We always have like extra stuff from the weddings or the events.

00:52:41.219 --> 00:52:43.389
So it's always like quesadillas stuff.

00:52:43.389 --> 00:52:43.750
We'd like.

00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:46.809
Pulled pork or whatever is left over or these or that.

00:52:46.809 --> 00:52:48.590
And it's just, ah, it's a subject.

00:52:48.590 --> 00:52:52.260
We cook complicated processes for our clients.

00:52:52.260 --> 00:52:53.583
And then we just use the leftovers.

00:52:53.583 --> 00:52:55.954
Well, it's easier to be simple when you're just for yourself.

00:52:55.954 --> 00:52:56.385
Oh, yeah.

00:52:56.385 --> 00:52:57.840
We don't, we definitely don't do that.

00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:04.920
But, um, anyway, going back to the subject, we realized that, um, we, we always say we don't like to cut corners.

00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:08.210
So food, there's so many ways that you can make food, right?

00:53:08.260 --> 00:53:08.889
You can.

00:53:09.204 --> 00:53:15.244
You can spend a lot of resources and time like French people do, in all honesty, that is not the school that we have.

00:53:15.255 --> 00:53:21.465
Like for me, peeling a potato, peeling, no se que, chopping all the edges so it's square and perfect.

00:53:21.894 --> 00:53:22.994
Taking all the, yeah.

00:53:23.215 --> 00:53:24.804
That does, for me, that's a huge waste.

00:53:24.905 --> 00:53:26.655
of time or resources and food.

00:53:26.675 --> 00:53:29.914
And at the end, I do believe that the fiber is good for you.

00:53:30.514 --> 00:53:35.085
The fat is flavorful, you know, all of those things just add at the end.

00:53:35.465 --> 00:53:41.914
So we don't think about those things, but what we do think is if I want to replicate a slow cook, but I don't have.

00:53:42.105 --> 00:53:46.155
You know, the Dutch oven to put for 110 people, because that would be ridiculous.

00:53:46.175 --> 00:53:46.474
Right.

00:53:46.514 --> 00:53:47.684
What other way we can do.

00:53:47.704 --> 00:53:59.635
And we've learned with time experience and other chefs as well and their processes, because it's fair to say that even though you can create new methods, you always basing on somebody else's work, right?

00:53:59.635 --> 00:54:00.960
So like a long, slow oven and stuff.

00:54:01.610 --> 00:54:05.579
So for example, what we do, because it's, it's everything that we do is commercial.

00:54:05.610 --> 00:54:07.079
So you use the full pans.

00:54:07.579 --> 00:54:15.969
And what we do is that obviously we never cut corners on the ingredients, the quality, the, the, the good wine, the herbs, the good shore ribs, all of those things.

00:54:15.969 --> 00:54:16.110
Right.

00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:17.989
So you put everything together in the full pen.

00:54:18.010 --> 00:54:25.659
And what we do is that we realize if you have enough, uh, plastic film and foil, you can create a Dutch oven inside.

00:54:25.670 --> 00:54:26.929
So, so you.

00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:28.010
Yes.

00:54:28.010 --> 00:54:32.269
So, so you Saran wrap the shit out of that for like four times.

00:54:32.309 --> 00:54:33.170
It doesn't melt.

00:54:33.210 --> 00:54:34.570
So it's, it's a lot of, well, there you go.

00:54:34.619 --> 00:54:36.050
The temperature and the time.

00:54:36.110 --> 00:54:38.469
it's a lot of physics and, and chemistry, like everything.

00:54:38.570 --> 00:54:52.369
If you put like, let's say six layers of that, uh, plastic Saran and Saran wrap, and then you don't, and then the foil on the top, and then you don't lift it, the temperature above 325, the plastic won't melt.

00:54:53.059 --> 00:54:54.139
So fascinating.

00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.780
But if you only do one layer, it does.

00:54:56.994 --> 00:54:57.465
Yeah, yeah.

00:54:57.534 --> 00:55:02.514
Uh, so you create something thick enough and then that plastic will just kinda attach and seal.

00:55:02.554 --> 00:55:04.375
Yeah, there's nothing, no moisture coming out.

00:55:04.474 --> 00:55:05.775
Like the Dutch oven, basically.

00:55:05.775 --> 00:55:09.635
Yeah, and, and uh, and then you create yourself a vacuum.

00:55:09.635 --> 00:55:13.385
It's a shame that full pans don't have, like, just a, a tight fitted lid.

00:55:13.405 --> 00:55:13.875
I know.

00:55:14.164 --> 00:55:16.505
It will probably be bouncing.

00:55:16.514 --> 00:55:21.644
Like if you have something, but there's not nothing, there's not an option.

00:55:21.985 --> 00:55:23.934
I mean, well, somebody should make that for the shape.

00:55:23.994 --> 00:55:26.394
Like just a, you could make a cast even right.

00:55:26.405 --> 00:55:31.704
Like you could, cause full pans are pretty standard size, although they shape a little bit different, but you could, that could be fun.

00:55:31.704 --> 00:55:34.514
Like, but because the weight, yeah, the weight would be heavy.

00:55:34.514 --> 00:55:34.715
Yeah.

00:55:34.715 --> 00:55:36.954
It would have to be a heavy, it has to be cast iron.

00:55:36.954 --> 00:55:41.224
Otherwise it is, like you say, going to go, and it all comes to storage room.

00:55:41.465 --> 00:55:45.094
You can put the pans one on top of the other, why are you gonna put the stupid lids?

00:55:45.094 --> 00:55:48.175
Well, if the lids didn't have a handle on top, they would stack nicely too.

00:55:48.235 --> 00:55:52.894
Yes, but they usually have that stupid bump on the bottom, where like, so you can put your fingers.

00:55:52.925 --> 00:55:55.215
And that bump becomes your worst enemy.

00:55:55.215 --> 00:56:00.434
Yeah, you would have to do something where you have like a little ledge where you click on it and it just goes up.

00:56:00.485 --> 00:56:06.675
Well, I have to say that my bourbon has been empty for longer than I prefer, and so I'm gonna call a pause.

00:56:06.744 --> 00:56:07.061
Oh, perfect.

00:56:07.061 --> 00:56:08.192
We'll take a short break.

00:56:08.192 --> 00:56:08.418
Alright.

00:56:08.418 --> 00:56:08.643
Alright.

00:56:08.643 --> 00:56:08.869
Alright.

00:56:08.869 --> 00:56:09.219
Yeah, gordita.

00:56:09.219 --> 00:56:14.610
Every time we sing, uh, happy birthday.

00:56:15.289 --> 00:56:16.139
That's his favorite song.

00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.380
Happy birthday to you.

00:56:22.030 --> 00:56:24.420
Happy birthday to you.

00:56:24.420 --> 00:56:28.719
Happy birthday, happy birthday.

00:56:30.065 --> 00:56:39.684
Happy Birthday to you! Muy bien, gordito! You did so good! So that's a husky and him.

00:56:41.795 --> 00:56:41.974
I know.

00:56:42.204 --> 00:56:43.295
Thank you, Gordo, for that.

00:56:43.304 --> 00:56:49.260
My most recent dog, before the current, was a, uh Pitbull and Border Collie.

00:56:49.699 --> 00:56:49.989
Oof.

00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.679
Yeah, so she was like, she looked like a Border Collie.

00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.659
Big, shaggy, white with a black eye.

00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:56.829
Kind of really cute.

00:56:56.829 --> 00:56:57.510
Oh, it's so cute.

00:56:57.510 --> 00:56:59.500
But then hose her down and she looked like a Pitbull.

00:56:59.510 --> 00:57:01.880
She was like built like a brick shithouse, you know.

00:57:02.380 --> 00:57:09.230
And she could do, like, she had this mouth thing where she could go Like that's how fast she could Yes.

00:57:09.510 --> 00:57:10.980
And other dogs would be like Respect.

00:57:12.545 --> 00:57:14.655
I do not want to play with you.

00:57:15.385 --> 00:57:18.315
When the energy level of that dog.

00:57:18.755 --> 00:57:22.195
Actually, it wasn't bad because the pitbull always makes them lazy.

00:57:22.724 --> 00:57:25.934
But for example, they go from zero to a hundred.

00:57:25.985 --> 00:57:26.364
Oh yeah.

00:57:26.394 --> 00:57:28.385
No, they could go turn on at any time.

00:57:28.385 --> 00:57:32.034
And the border collies are like high energy dogs as well.

00:57:32.034 --> 00:57:32.764
She was a good dog.

00:57:32.815 --> 00:57:35.605
I mean, she was a good hiker and squirrel chaser.

00:57:35.635 --> 00:57:36.844
Did you have her for many years?

00:57:36.844 --> 00:57:36.875
Yeah.

00:57:37.050 --> 00:57:37.440
Uh, 13.

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.007
Uh, good.

00:57:38.007 --> 00:57:38.856
13 are good.

00:57:38.856 --> 00:57:42.050
And now we have, well, we've had Tucker now for, he's 12.

00:57:42.489 --> 00:57:46.739
We've had him for 11 years and he's a miniature Schnauzer Cocker Spaniel.

00:57:47.050 --> 00:57:50.079
Oh, but that's good because small breeds will give you a little bit.

00:57:50.099 --> 00:57:51.585
I hope another 5 years or so.

00:57:51.585 --> 00:57:53.639
I was gonna say, you'll get a little bit more time out of him.

00:57:53.670 --> 00:58:04.099
Yeah, he got hit by a car a few weeks ago, uh, and got like, maybe a concussion or something, but it's actually pulled through, and then two weeks to the day after, he got sprayed by a skunk.

00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:05.510
Oh no.

00:58:05.510 --> 00:58:07.110
And he wanted to go back in there again.

00:58:07.130 --> 00:58:11.460
So I had to like leave him tied up in the backyard.

00:58:12.829 --> 00:58:14.730
How do you get rid of the smell?

00:58:15.050 --> 00:58:16.789
With tomato paste, remember?

00:58:17.650 --> 00:58:19.420
The tomato paste works like crazy.

00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.889
I've seen tomato, but I don't know, in a dog?

00:58:21.940 --> 00:58:24.099
I mean Yeah, just buy tomato paste.

00:58:24.099 --> 00:58:24.630
Time.

00:58:24.630 --> 00:58:27.094
We just let him sleep outside for a few weeks.

00:58:27.094 --> 00:58:28.090
For like a few weeks.

00:58:28.099 --> 00:58:30.610
Yeah, then we get him washed at the groomers.

00:58:34.224 --> 00:58:37.545
You don't know if it's the, if it's the, the wheat plant or if it is.

00:58:37.795 --> 00:58:38.635
No, it was a real skunk.

00:58:38.954 --> 00:58:40.164
I saw the skunk, actually.

00:58:40.585 --> 00:58:45.864
I went out there that night and Tucker was freaking out and I saw the skunk, he was like pointing his tail right at me.

00:58:45.864 --> 00:58:47.764
I'm like, okay, he's still here.

00:58:48.525 --> 00:58:48.965
So it was in your house?

00:58:49.264 --> 00:58:50.155
In my backyard.

00:58:50.204 --> 00:58:50.485
Yeah.

00:58:50.780 --> 00:58:51.730
He lives around there, then.

00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:52.510
Yeah, apparently.

00:58:52.579 --> 00:58:53.840
I didn't know we had skunks here.

00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:54.730
Like, in the city.

00:58:55.019 --> 00:58:55.570
But that makes sense.

00:58:55.570 --> 00:58:57.199
If we have raccoons, we have everything else, right?

00:58:57.210 --> 00:58:57.780
Yeah, yeah.

00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:59.849
No, I've, uh How many raccoons have you killed?

00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:00.929
No.

00:59:00.980 --> 00:59:01.329
None.

00:59:01.510 --> 00:59:01.800
Zero.

00:59:01.809 --> 00:59:02.440
Thank god, yeah.

00:59:02.619 --> 00:59:03.280
Thank god, zero.

00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:04.030
I've killed five.

00:59:04.170 --> 00:59:04.800
Oh my god.

00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.139
Yeah, in defense of my chickens.

00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:07.969
Oh! And for sport.

00:59:08.170 --> 00:59:09.019
No, not really sport.

00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:10.572
No, they're vicious with their chickens.

00:59:10.572 --> 00:59:11.610
Yeah, they're ridiculous.

00:59:11.905 --> 00:59:20.315
Well, in the most recent one, I've told this story in the podcast, but Tucker jumped and grabbed him off the top of a six foot fence and bled into him.

00:59:20.315 --> 00:59:22.784
It was like a 35 pound male raccoon.

00:59:24.284 --> 00:59:25.525
He was way bigger than Tucker.

00:59:25.525 --> 00:59:27.275
Tucker's 25, 23.

00:59:27.275 --> 00:59:29.835
And I got bit by the raccoon.

00:59:29.844 --> 00:59:34.079
Cause I like, Pulled the raccoon off of what I thought was Tucker beat up.

00:59:34.329 --> 00:59:56.219
Yeah, and it was a raccoon gonna beat up I didn't know the raccoon bit me Yeah, exactly that I threw the raccoon in the ground went get my baseball bat and Tucker like was kicking his butt It wasn't even close Which I was really surprised by Yeah, I would never think that a 25 dog, 25 pound dog would get into a fight with a 35 pound raccoon, especially because raccoons are vicious.

00:59:56.219 --> 00:59:57.349
I mean, they're tough.

00:59:57.349 --> 00:59:58.989
Yeah, but yeah, I just, I don't know.

00:59:58.989 --> 01:00:02.510
The raccoon was all squeals and Tucker was all Proud.

01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.449
You know, he was like, I got this, dad, you don't need the baseball bat.

01:00:05.929 --> 01:00:11.139
We've never had the need to kill any, but No, this guy just, uh, killed a squirrel not too long ago.

01:00:11.269 --> 01:00:12.550
Oh yeah, that's impressive.

01:00:12.550 --> 01:00:13.519
I know.

01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.960
I don't think he even knew No, we gave him the biggest care of his life with that.

01:00:16.969 --> 01:00:24.039
We don't like him to kill We have I mean, we have a big tree and there's a lot of squirrels, so if he starts killing one before we know it, it's gonna be a family.

01:00:24.059 --> 01:00:24.960
No, it's hard.

01:00:24.969 --> 01:00:25.579
No, yeah.

01:00:25.670 --> 01:00:26.789
Like, they're always hard.

01:00:26.789 --> 01:00:36.985
Like, Tucker killed one right away when he moved in, and then another one a week later he's gotten like It's always hard for us to see them die, you know, you never want that to happen.

01:00:37.414 --> 01:00:39.280
We try to teach them a little bit, but they don't understand.

01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:40.224
With squirrels and raccoons it's okay.

01:00:40.304 --> 01:00:41.065
There's too many of them?

01:00:41.065 --> 01:00:42.594
There's plenty of them, yes, both.

01:00:43.094 --> 01:00:47.518
Well, in our house between the chickens and everything, there's a big community in the house too.

01:00:47.518 --> 01:00:49.581
We've got owls and probably a raccoon.

01:00:49.581 --> 01:00:52.663
We lose our chickens to owls and um, hawks.

01:00:52.663 --> 01:00:53.284
Oh wow, interesting.

01:00:53.675 --> 01:00:56.324
I found a pygmy owl in my chicken coop one time.

01:00:56.335 --> 01:01:04.155
He was just like the size of my fist, and he was like trapped in there, like he couldn't find his way out because I had a fence all over the top and the sides and everything.

01:01:04.164 --> 01:01:05.054
How did he get in?

01:01:05.144 --> 01:01:11.065
It must have been, he came in through the door, um, but he couldn't find the door back out kind of thing.

01:01:11.094 --> 01:01:11.414
Ah.

01:01:11.659 --> 01:01:19.059
Um, and so I got my leather gloves and I, I grabbed him and, and he was like the calmest thing.

01:01:19.059 --> 01:01:29.269
He was like, I, I think I trust you right now and he was just chill and then I like, you know, got him out of the side of the coop and, and release him and he released him and he flew away.

01:01:29.269 --> 01:01:29.449
Yeah.

01:01:29.449 --> 01:01:29.659
Yeah.

01:01:30.315 --> 01:01:34.465
And he, but he was so chill, like he stood on my leg for, or my finger for a while afterwards.

01:01:34.465 --> 01:01:36.394
He's like, okay, I guess I'm free now.

01:01:36.445 --> 01:01:38.434
We were, uh, it was so cool.

01:01:38.445 --> 01:01:41.965
We're smoking a joint in the morning or, yeah, I wanted to smoke that joint more.

01:01:41.965 --> 01:01:43.014
Yeah.

01:01:43.014 --> 01:01:44.135
Talking about, talking about that.

01:01:44.425 --> 01:01:46.735
And, uh, we were like, I started watering the plant.

01:01:46.735 --> 01:01:52.295
I have these devices that, uh, they literally just kind of, you put the perimeter of your grass and it just goes around it.

01:01:52.875 --> 01:01:55.505
And it's the only thing that I have figured out how to.

01:01:56.085 --> 01:01:58.315
Not have to stand for an hour watering the grass.

01:01:59.094 --> 01:02:03.144
And we were just there and suddenly out of the chicken coop.

01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:11.179
And the outside, a little thing started crawling up and we come, we came close to it and it was a bat.

01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:12.010
Oh, cool.

01:02:12.059 --> 01:02:15.710
And like 10 in the morning, he was just like, he went all the way up.

01:02:15.710 --> 01:02:16.760
I see him in my backyard a lot of times.

01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.630
Kurt, we didn't know, we didn't know that we had bats in Colorado.

01:02:19.989 --> 01:02:20.380
Oh, really?

01:02:20.460 --> 01:02:23.880
And he was so tiny and we were surprised by the size of them.

01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:25.260
They look like little sparrows or something.

01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:25.920
Yes.

01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.630
Not even a sparrow, like a swallow, like smaller than a swallow.

01:02:27.630 --> 01:02:29.000
Like a swallow, exactly.

01:02:29.030 --> 01:02:30.409
Um, yeah.

01:02:30.980 --> 01:02:36.449
He hooked his, his, uh, leg into the wood and couldn't find it for like 10 minutes.

01:02:36.449 --> 01:02:38.449
I was like, come on, come on.

01:02:38.449 --> 01:02:39.179
I had it the other day.

01:02:41.710 --> 01:02:42.309
Where are you?

01:02:42.329 --> 01:02:43.130
Where are you?

01:02:43.130 --> 01:02:46.289
He's like, I know you're here, you motherfucking crack.

01:02:46.289 --> 01:02:46.820
Get in there.

01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:47.340
Get in there.

01:02:50.409 --> 01:02:51.610
I already climbed all the way here.

01:02:52.059 --> 01:02:52.599
Anyways.

01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:53.050
Yeah.

01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:53.699
I know.

01:02:53.699 --> 01:02:54.989
Beautiful living in Fort Collins.

01:02:54.989 --> 01:02:55.760
It's a beautiful thing.

01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:56.139
That's it.

01:02:59.230 --> 01:03:00.590
One of the few things that we love that.

01:03:00.869 --> 01:03:05.400
So we always jump in the time machine and get kind of the zoom back to the life story thing.

01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.519
We'll have to move fairly quickly to get to all the segments.

01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:18.760
But, uh, um, why don't we go to, uh, you said La Jolla in California, right?

01:03:18.769 --> 01:03:19.769
That's where you were born.

01:03:20.409 --> 01:03:21.940
And through how age of what?

01:03:22.619 --> 01:03:29.510
Um, I was literally born there, and my dad was, um, studying in Santa Barbara.

01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:29.929
I see.

01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:30.789
Photography.

01:03:31.050 --> 01:03:35.880
And, literally as soon as he was done, we went, we went back to Ensenada.

01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:36.079
Okay.

01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.309
Which is like about a, an hour and a half, like two hours south of Ensenada.

01:03:39.804 --> 01:03:40.434
Of the border.

01:03:40.824 --> 01:03:41.215
Don't worry.

01:03:41.219 --> 01:03:42.985
Like San Diego, like the first big town, Lebanon?

01:03:42.985 --> 01:03:44.664
No, first big town south of San Diego.

01:03:44.664 --> 01:03:45.954
Basically past Tijuana.

01:03:45.954 --> 01:03:47.367
So you go down past Tijuana, it Tijuana.

01:03:47.371 --> 01:03:47.635
Sure.

01:03:47.815 --> 01:03:48.114
Yep.

01:03:48.175 --> 01:03:51.565
You pass the circus and then you pass the circus.

01:03:51.565 --> 01:03:51.567
The circus.

01:03:51.572 --> 01:03:52.190
What's the circus?

01:03:52.630 --> 01:03:52.909
Tijuana.

01:03:53.030 --> 01:03:53.230
Tijuana.

01:03:53.269 --> 01:03:53.869
Tijuana is the circus.

01:03:54.190 --> 01:03:54.789
Tijuana is the circus.

01:03:55.105 --> 01:03:55.465
I see.

01:03:55.855 --> 01:03:59.364
And uh, you literally go to the coast and you go down for an hour.

01:03:59.369 --> 01:03:59.755
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:59.784 --> 01:04:00.204
Coasting.

01:04:00.235 --> 01:04:00.715
Okay, cool.

01:04:00.715 --> 01:04:01.614
Beautiful coasting.

01:04:01.614 --> 01:04:02.965
And uh, and you just.

01:04:03.385 --> 01:04:10.534
You get to this little first town, uh, of Mexico and it's just, or a city, it was just super fun.

01:04:10.545 --> 01:04:11.295
It was very chill.

01:04:11.295 --> 01:04:11.905
How big was it?

01:04:11.905 --> 01:04:12.704
You know where it is?

01:04:13.045 --> 01:04:18.914
Um, Kurt, have you heard of El Valle de Guadalupe, like the Sonoma Valley or the Napa Valley of Mexico?

01:04:18.994 --> 01:04:19.315
Sure.

01:04:19.485 --> 01:04:21.264
It's 45 minutes away from Ensenada.

01:04:21.335 --> 01:04:21.724
Okay.

01:04:21.755 --> 01:04:27.065
So, Ensenada is the city that hosts the entrance to the Valley of Guadalupe.

01:04:27.114 --> 01:04:27.724
Oh, interesting.

01:04:27.795 --> 01:04:34.210
In Ensenada Well, yeah, you have like, let's say it's just the coast keeps it cool.

01:04:34.230 --> 01:04:34.449
Yeah.

01:04:34.449 --> 01:04:42.380
You have like the, the Rocky mountains, let's say that goes all the way down and then it separates into one, uh, that it's Baja, California, all the mountains.

01:04:42.380 --> 01:04:44.539
And then the other one goes into the center of Mexico.

01:04:44.780 --> 01:04:45.980
Oh, so there's still mountains on the bottom.

01:04:46.309 --> 01:04:49.750
So Baja has like, uh, we call it Sierra, Sierra Madre Occidental.

01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:57.414
I think it's like, um, I don't know how they call it here, but like, so, so it's, uh, I'm fine.

01:04:57.414 --> 01:04:57.735
Thanks.

01:04:58.105 --> 01:05:02.125
So it's like, uh, there's huge mountains and then you just kind of have all the planes and then the water.

01:05:02.125 --> 01:05:05.235
No, so it's kind of like the tip of a, of a mountain.

01:05:05.235 --> 01:05:06.144
If you take the water off.

01:05:06.570 --> 01:05:06.800
Yeah.

01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:09.190
It's a more like European setting for wines.

01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:13.010
It's like the wines like, like the coast comes in and then you have the moisture.

01:05:13.510 --> 01:05:13.630
Okay.

01:05:13.630 --> 01:05:14.650
Very California weather.

01:05:14.670 --> 01:05:14.840
Cool.

01:05:14.969 --> 01:05:15.699
Uh, style.

01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:21.840
And so tell me in, uh, five years old, uh, is your dad a photographer now or?

01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:22.050
Yeah.

01:05:22.050 --> 01:05:28.614
My dad is a photographer of another town a little bit southern from there that he, you Can I retire and all his cousins and everybody lives?

01:05:28.644 --> 01:05:33.284
No, but not, but, uh, back then when you were a five year old, cause we, oh wait, hold on.

01:05:33.284 --> 01:05:34.284
We'll make this more formal.

01:05:34.534 --> 01:05:35.715
We're jumping into the time machine.

01:05:39.664 --> 01:05:39.965
Okay.

01:05:39.965 --> 01:05:41.344
We're you're five years old.

01:05:41.344 --> 01:05:42.284
You're in Ensenada.

01:05:42.735 --> 01:05:43.474
What am I doing?

01:05:43.474 --> 01:05:44.775
You have brothers, sisters.

01:05:44.954 --> 01:05:47.675
Uh, yeah, I'm, I'm the youngest of four.

01:05:47.755 --> 01:05:48.085
Okay.

01:05:48.135 --> 01:05:54.614
I live in, uh, In a big house that, uh, my parents inherited, and it had a lot of land.

01:05:54.844 --> 01:05:59.005
Is that why your dad was up in California doing photography school, because he had inherited some wealth or something?

01:05:59.005 --> 01:06:05.224
He loved photography because his, uh, grandfather, um, gave him a camera when he was a kid.

01:06:05.284 --> 01:06:05.655
Okay.

01:06:05.775 --> 01:06:09.664
And he loved So, he Did that.

01:06:10.175 --> 01:06:14.244
But before he started photography, he was studying economics and all that stuff.

01:06:14.565 --> 01:06:16.605
They were, he was forced to be smart too.

01:06:16.934 --> 01:06:20.534
It was no, he never really applied the economics economics.

01:06:20.534 --> 01:06:22.085
He was there because he was forced.

01:06:22.085 --> 01:06:24.304
He was a first student for that.

01:06:24.304 --> 01:06:29.195
So as soon as he was able to get out of that, he went directly into studying what he wanted to.

01:06:29.195 --> 01:06:35.045
So he did photography and, and, and then he became a photographer for, it was all his life, basically.

01:06:35.405 --> 01:06:36.914
He's still, he still does that.

01:06:37.505 --> 01:06:42.795
And, um, He was married obviously already to your mother.

01:06:42.815 --> 01:06:44.525
Yeah, five years old.

01:06:44.744 --> 01:06:59.389
Uh, my parents were married and Not they're not anymore, but they were there back then and were there more littles to follow or years of life I'm the youngest of four youngest of so I was always more like, kind of, in my own universe.

01:06:59.869 --> 01:07:03.829
Because the other three are one year apart, and then I'm like two and three years apart.

01:07:03.900 --> 01:07:04.409
Yeah, yeah.

01:07:04.500 --> 01:07:07.079
So, I, I was always too small to do anything.

01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:09.250
Like they were a clump, and then you were like the straggler.

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:09.820
Exactly.

01:07:09.820 --> 01:07:10.849
That's the same as my family.

01:07:10.869 --> 01:07:11.219
Yeah?

01:07:11.309 --> 01:07:18.295
Uh, yeah, cause I'm, I'm fifty, my brother's gonna be forty eight, my sister will be 45.

01:07:18.905 --> 01:07:20.860
And then my youngest brother is five years younger.

01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:23.139
Ah, so you he's the, you 35.

01:07:23.449 --> 01:07:23.739
Yeah.

01:07:23.739 --> 01:07:23.940
Yeah.

01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.425
And no, 40, so, so there's five years, but so there's three of us.

01:07:27.425 --> 01:07:29.764
So you have 10 years in different that, so three of us in a group of five.

01:07:29.769 --> 01:07:29.880
Yeah.

01:07:29.914 --> 01:07:31.295
And then five more years.

01:07:31.295 --> 01:07:32.315
And there's one more striker.

01:07:32.974 --> 01:07:33.005
Oh man.

01:07:33.005 --> 01:07:33.007
Yeah.

01:07:33.809 --> 01:07:34.469
I love it.

01:07:34.469 --> 01:07:38.574
You know, Mexicans do it faster though, you know, one, two, three, and then boom, boom.

01:07:38.574 --> 01:07:40.269
And then it was like, damn it.

01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:46.739
So I, so I tell my, I asked my mom one day, I was like, Hey, you know, we're older, not five at that point, but we're older.

01:07:46.739 --> 01:07:48.909
And I'm like, Hey, did you plan this all?

01:07:48.940 --> 01:08:00.594
Like all of our, Yeah, with all the love and everybody in each one of you, and then I go with my dad and I asked the same question and he was like, Nope, we only planned the first one.

01:08:03.485 --> 01:08:04.894
The other three came along.

01:08:04.894 --> 01:08:06.894
So I'm happy to be the hole in the condom maybe.

01:08:07.664 --> 01:08:09.244
So I'm happy about that too.

01:08:10.655 --> 01:08:17.914
Let's zoom to, like, fifth grade or something, like, what, what, you were already kind of a binational citizen, kind of?

01:08:18.194 --> 01:08:20.515
Yeah, we used to go back and forth.

01:08:20.654 --> 01:08:24.015
Yeah, it was very common back then that you, uh, you used to go to the U.

01:08:24.015 --> 01:08:24.354
S.

01:08:24.385 --> 01:08:26.154
and you do all your shopping and groceries.

01:08:26.395 --> 01:08:26.814
Oh, really?

01:08:26.814 --> 01:08:27.654
And then we'll come back.

01:08:27.654 --> 01:08:31.199
Like, the food was better, or cheaper, or I think it was closer.

01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:31.399
Yeah.

01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:31.680
Yeah.

01:08:32.050 --> 01:08:35.149
I think it was closer to go to San Diego, to a nice supermarket.

01:08:35.149 --> 01:08:40.300
I guess you have more whole foods and like, uh, just bigger books were a lot in the house.

01:08:40.310 --> 01:08:43.949
So they'll buy like, you know, all the, all the big bulk stuff.

01:08:43.949 --> 01:08:52.720
And, uh, we'll, we'll head to, We'll cross into San Diego and they will drop us into a place called Fun For All, which is like a batting cage.

01:08:52.789 --> 01:08:53.960
Alright, I dig it.

01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:55.069
It's like Fort Fun here.

01:08:55.329 --> 01:08:55.720
Sure, sure.

01:08:55.720 --> 01:09:01.750
And they were like, my parents would probably, oh yeah, can you imagine four kids driving in that place to San Diego?

01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:02.425
We were like, oh yeah.

01:09:02.975 --> 01:09:19.274
My, my parents will get so pissed because we were playing like curves, which is all together in the backseat, we're like pushing each other and like laughing or until normally I was the one that something happened and I got, I normally got hurt and I started crying and we used to fight for the windows.

01:09:19.289 --> 01:09:21.029
Like, who sits in the windows?

01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.119
'cause their arms can't reach when they slap back there.

01:09:25.260 --> 01:09:30.239
So guys, I grew, I grew up in a time where, uh, slapping your kids was, yeah, the normal thing.

01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.829
Not, not, not very big, but, uh, there were no, I'll sue you.

01:09:33.829 --> 01:09:34.250
Nothing.

01:09:34.310 --> 01:09:37.760
It was, was just like, you'll just try to get the windows so you don't get the slap.

01:09:37.789 --> 01:09:39.409
In Latin America, super common.

01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:43.774
Also, for example, in Colombia and in Venezuela, we throw the chala, you have a sandal.

01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:45.829
I like it.

01:09:46.250 --> 01:09:48.609
Yeah, I got these pretty good.

01:09:48.630 --> 01:09:50.369
Well, that one would be more heavy.

01:09:51.220 --> 01:09:52.600
That's like a heavy duty one.

01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:53.380
Pretty aerodynamic.

01:09:55.350 --> 01:09:57.000
The chancla fly is like a Frisbee.

01:09:57.029 --> 01:10:00.149
So they would throw the chancla or the belt as well.

01:10:00.220 --> 01:10:00.920
That was another one.

01:10:01.109 --> 01:10:02.170
That was a heavier one.

01:10:02.170 --> 01:10:02.569
But yeah.

01:10:02.899 --> 01:10:11.000
Uh, but yeah, well, going back to it, uh, fifth grade, I mean, I grew up in a very beautiful, like in front of, near the ocean, very close to the ocean.

01:10:11.010 --> 01:10:13.029
And my house had all sorts of.

01:10:13.539 --> 01:10:19.350
Like, trees, like fruit trees, so my parents didn't give So you were in a pretty privileged setting.

01:10:19.510 --> 01:10:20.779
Well, I was, I was very free.

01:10:21.524 --> 01:10:23.954
Yeah, my parents didn't really give a lot of shit about it.

01:10:24.614 --> 01:10:24.675
Yeah.

01:10:24.675 --> 01:10:33.375
They were very young and they, they were very free and, and, and they were, my mom's motto when we talk to her now, it, she's like, well, they're gonna do it with or without me.

01:10:33.375 --> 01:10:40.329
I'd rather them learn when they're young, so if they're gonna climb a tree, I'd rather they learn how to climb a tree when they.

01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:41.590
We were the same.

01:10:41.590 --> 01:10:49.569
I mean, uh, me and my friends, like we got a bicycle when we were five and then we were free to wander the town of one hundred people or so.

01:10:49.630 --> 01:10:49.760
One hundred people.

01:10:50.229 --> 01:10:50.760
Yeah, yeah.

01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:52.949
It was a little village, you know, in the middle of North Dakota.

01:10:52.949 --> 01:10:56.340
I grew up in also a little But there were nine kids under twelve.

01:10:56.609 --> 01:10:56.764
Of course.

01:10:56.764 --> 01:10:57.296
You know, or something.

01:10:57.296 --> 01:10:58.489
And you all hang out together.

01:10:58.489 --> 01:10:59.363
Of course.

01:10:59.363 --> 01:10:59.800
Yeah.

01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:10.399
I was like literally in pieces of land in the middle of There was not a lot of houses, so from my house to the next house, it was like two miles and stuff like, or a mile.

01:11:10.409 --> 01:11:15.859
So, you know, you get along and then there was a city, but I lived like in the outsides of the city.

01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:16.489
Interesting.

01:11:16.489 --> 01:11:20.079
Um, it was, uh, yeah, it was, it was really fun.

01:11:20.109 --> 01:11:21.659
A lot of freedom on mind.

01:11:21.659 --> 01:11:23.689
And I think that's part of why.

01:11:24.164 --> 01:11:28.234
Part of, uh, what, what made me, has made me who I am in that aspect.

01:11:28.255 --> 01:11:29.984
Be the adventurer that you became.

01:11:29.984 --> 01:11:34.284
Yeah, I was lifting rocks all, all day long and figuring out life and what the hell was there.

01:11:34.284 --> 01:11:37.784
So, uh, observation became like my, my best friend.

01:11:37.784 --> 01:11:38.244
Interesting.

01:11:38.244 --> 01:11:38.604
In life.

01:11:38.654 --> 01:11:39.034
Okay.

01:11:39.064 --> 01:11:39.715
And just.

01:11:39.744 --> 01:11:41.555
Were you a good student as far as the school system?

01:11:41.595 --> 01:11:43.078
I was always a great student.

01:11:43.078 --> 01:11:44.140
The biggest nerd.

01:11:44.140 --> 01:11:47.505
Until the, yeah, I was, yeah, so I was, I was always been intrigued about life.

01:11:47.550 --> 01:11:47.579
Okay.

01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:49.109
So I was always lifting rocks.

01:11:49.109 --> 01:11:49.170
Yeah.

01:11:49.229 --> 01:11:50.840
So I was always why?

01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:52.085
And my, if there was a, a good new book.

01:11:52.085 --> 01:11:52.364
Yeah.

01:11:52.475 --> 01:11:55.880
Even my brothers were always just, uh, getting tired of that.

01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:57.680
I was always asking the whys of everything.

01:11:58.250 --> 01:12:00.529
And then it would be like, yeah, stop, stop asking everything.

01:12:00.529 --> 01:12:00.649
Stop.

01:12:02.210 --> 01:12:07.489
My dad will get, so probably conf, like, so, uh, like, uh, overwhelmed.

01:12:07.489 --> 01:12:10.369
Overwhelmed that he'll start singing the questions that I ask him.

01:12:11.029 --> 01:12:14.960
that or, uh, what, and then it would be like, what is the time?

01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:16.005
So why does it sound right in this?

01:12:16.329 --> 01:12:20.399
The sun and the moon, they walk down the path.

01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:21.340
They will never answer me.

01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:28.170
I was like, so, uh, so I guess, yeah, knowledge has been always intriguing and fun.

01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:29.289
I feel it feels fun.

01:12:29.289 --> 01:12:33.274
So going a little bit to, to the culinary side, it's, it's been great.

01:12:33.454 --> 01:12:36.795
You know, yeah, there's a never ending learning in culinary for sure.

01:12:36.835 --> 01:12:45.914
It's nature together with spirituality together with chemistry, chemistry, science, it's healing.

01:12:45.925 --> 01:12:47.154
It's camaraderie.

01:12:47.154 --> 01:12:47.694
It's community.

01:12:48.484 --> 01:12:48.975
It's medicine.

01:12:48.984 --> 01:12:54.545
It's in the center of who we are and what we do and what we are and you move three miles away.

01:12:54.545 --> 01:12:58.975
I can't wait until we just have IVs that feed us the necessary nutrients to stay alive.

01:12:59.064 --> 01:13:00.725
Oh God, I wish that would never happen.

01:13:01.564 --> 01:13:02.654
I need my tongue.

01:13:02.725 --> 01:13:05.645
I know, I'm like, I hope that never happens while I'm alive.

01:13:05.975 --> 01:13:07.614
I would like to chew my food and taste it.

01:13:07.614 --> 01:13:09.564
Can we get out of that time traveling place?

01:13:09.564 --> 01:13:10.015
Oh, sweet IV.

01:13:10.015 --> 01:13:15.631
Just a little bit of, uh, a little bit of opium kind of derivative in there too.

01:13:15.631 --> 01:13:17.274
Well, those type of nutrients are different.

01:13:19.765 --> 01:13:25.015
So, um, I want to, I want to, like, zoom over in the time machine to Columbia.

01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:28.909
Um, and you're my part of one or two or five.

01:13:28.909 --> 01:13:29.090
Yeah.

01:13:29.090 --> 01:13:30.050
Whatever childhood.

01:13:30.979 --> 01:13:37.340
So, um, very different, uh, childhood from one Without a doubt.

01:13:37.369 --> 01:13:40.670
Um, I lived no, see without a doubt.

01:13:40.970 --> 01:13:41.510
So What age?

01:13:41.510 --> 01:13:41.960
What age?

01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:42.800
No, five.

01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:43.430
Five years.

01:13:43.460 --> 01:13:43.579
Five.

01:13:43.579 --> 01:13:43.581
Alright.

01:13:43.805 --> 01:13:45.064
So, yeah.

01:13:45.170 --> 01:13:49.550
Um, very different I lived in a, in a neighborhood, in a really nice neighborhood in Meine.

01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:53.524
Um, Columbia was, which is one of the largest cities of it.

01:13:53.994 --> 01:13:54.965
It's like the me, me.

01:13:56.034 --> 01:13:57.770
Well, it looks like Mein for me.

01:13:58.295 --> 01:14:01.244
Meine is, um, me.

01:14:01.489 --> 01:14:03.079
You use a J in that context?

01:14:03.409 --> 01:14:04.010
Double L.

01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:07.220
So Meine is, it could be Meine or me.

01:14:07.460 --> 01:14:11.420
Well, you guys, I guess the pronunciation that works too.

01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:11.659
Okay.

01:14:11.659 --> 01:14:14.779
But probably I do the double end and stronger on my end.

01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:17.539
So we're talking about the same plate, we're talking about the same place.

01:14:18.005 --> 01:14:22.204
Put a a j instead of a double L ine put a gene.

01:14:22.475 --> 01:14:25.970
So I grew up in ine when I grew up in, uh, there, it was.

01:14:26.659 --> 01:14:30.979
Um, I was born in 85 and I was there until 96, 97.

01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:35.300
So let's say in the nineties, Mein was a beautiful city.

01:14:35.300 --> 01:14:38.510
I guess it was about not a hundred people by any means.

01:14:38.510 --> 01:14:39.949
It was not a village right?

01:14:40.010 --> 01:14:42.380
This was probably about a million and a half.

01:14:42.890 --> 01:14:42.920
Okay.

01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.710
So very urban, the second biggest city in Colombia.

01:14:45.770 --> 01:14:45.859
Yep.

01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.109
Um, very beautiful, but.

01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:54.010
In the 90s, it was ridiculously violent, to say anything.

01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:56.920
Like, if you watch Like kidnappings and stuff?

01:14:56.930 --> 01:14:59.109
Like, if you watch Narcos Or gangs fighting turf wars?

01:14:59.109 --> 01:15:00.609
It's not Yeah, I've watched Narcos.

01:15:00.619 --> 01:15:02.717
So, what you watch in Narcos is what we lived.

01:15:02.717 --> 01:15:03.405
It was Pablo Escobar.

01:15:03.405 --> 01:15:04.739
It was Pablo Escobar.

01:15:04.739 --> 01:15:07.452
And that was the epicenter of his, like, territory.

01:15:07.452 --> 01:15:08.177
He's from my city.

01:15:08.177 --> 01:15:08.359
Yeah.

01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:12.475
So My city was the epicenter of his whole operation.

01:15:12.475 --> 01:15:16.385
Right, virtually trying to take control of the country through narco trafficking.

01:15:16.385 --> 01:15:22.824
Yes, so, Medellin was a shitshow, but at the same time it's so funny because people continue on with their lives.

01:15:22.984 --> 01:15:25.975
What were your parents doing, like, for work, or?

01:15:26.965 --> 01:15:27.755
Father.

01:15:27.774 --> 01:15:30.984
My father was a Marine officer.

01:15:31.074 --> 01:15:32.814
He was working at some point.

01:15:32.824 --> 01:15:35.015
He was with the, as an, with the Navy.

01:15:35.335 --> 01:15:39.484
And then he become a merchant, like a commercial Marines.

01:15:39.484 --> 01:15:40.055
Yes, exactly.

01:15:40.524 --> 01:15:43.225
So he was, my father was almost never.

01:15:44.164 --> 01:15:49.694
The guy that helped me, uh, move into my place in Fort Collins, Dave Higdon, shout out.

01:15:50.154 --> 01:15:52.404
Um, he's in the Merchant Marines.

01:15:52.435 --> 01:16:00.244
Uh, he like, went through this banker training school, and was a banker for five years or seven, and then he was like, eh.

01:16:01.125 --> 01:16:02.845
Merchant Marines is way more cool.

01:16:03.425 --> 01:16:08.055
And he met a gal from Laos and married her and they have got a bunch of littles now.

01:16:08.774 --> 01:16:13.364
Um, and, uh, I guess you need to be by the ocean to be able to be a Merchant Marine.

01:16:13.364 --> 01:16:13.625
For sure.

01:16:13.875 --> 01:16:15.935
Colorado doesn't have any, um, He was a Washington.

01:16:16.364 --> 01:16:17.585
He was from Washington.

01:16:17.585 --> 01:16:17.755
Yeah.

01:16:17.755 --> 01:16:20.215
The islands of Washington there in the San Juan somewhere.

01:16:20.225 --> 01:16:20.635
I forget.

01:16:20.784 --> 01:16:21.555
Oh, very nice.

01:16:21.635 --> 01:16:22.625
Anyway, I digress.

01:16:22.694 --> 01:16:24.034
So shout out Merchant Marines.

01:16:24.774 --> 01:16:26.694
So anyway, my dad was a Marine.

01:16:26.694 --> 01:16:29.534
So that means that I would spend the majority of the time with my mom.

01:16:29.534 --> 01:16:29.595
Yeah.

01:16:29.774 --> 01:16:34.545
Uh, in Medellin, my mom was, um, is a hairstylist, just me and my mom.

01:16:34.545 --> 01:16:36.475
At that point, I had no sisters or nothing.

01:16:36.475 --> 01:16:39.345
There was only me from my, from my mom's first marriage.

01:16:39.774 --> 01:16:45.095
Um, eventually, obviously because of how much my dad wasn't in the house, that didn't work for my mom.

01:16:45.829 --> 01:16:54.189
They got divorced, blah, blah, blah, um, and then my life became, blah, blah, blah, well, blah, blah, blah, as in, you know, divorce is just so common.

01:16:54.189 --> 01:16:56.020
Like, what was that like from your perspective?

01:16:56.020 --> 01:17:00.835
Like, did, she was just like, okay, I'm kind of over the merchant Marines, you were five, you were eight.

01:17:00.835 --> 01:17:02.949
I was, exactly, I was six years old.

01:17:02.970 --> 01:17:03.960
Whatever, mom, yeah.

01:17:03.970 --> 01:17:27.104
So, when my dad and my mom got divorced, I don't think I had, Uh, the, the conception or the conscious or the maturity to understand what was actually happening, especially because you're just kind of assumed to be with your mom because your dad was never around being a merchant Marine in some ways, he says that he's probably has brothers.

01:17:27.635 --> 01:17:46.454
Like when I, when I logged into some old places, I got into 23andme and the first thing that came into my mind, I'm like, I am sure that in the next 5 to 10 years, someone with 50 percent of my genetics will pop out somewhere in the world, because being a Merchant Marine.

01:17:46.465 --> 01:17:54.385
Well, I mean, I don't know how, like, no healthy man can really spend 6 months at a time away from a woman.

01:17:54.385 --> 01:17:56.255
Kurt, it was like 10 months.

01:17:56.305 --> 01:17:57.925
It was like, no.

01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:00.180
And on top of that, my daughter's not ugly.

01:18:00.180 --> 01:18:03.449
Maybe some people are better than me.

01:18:03.449 --> 01:18:06.252
Long distance relationship can be hard.

01:18:06.252 --> 01:18:08.090
You need to have What did you say?

01:18:08.250 --> 01:18:08.930
Somebody was ugly?

01:18:08.930 --> 01:18:09.739
Your dad was ugly?

01:18:09.750 --> 01:18:10.060
What?

01:18:10.180 --> 01:18:11.380
No, he was not ugly to look at.

01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:12.189
He was not ugly.

01:18:12.420 --> 01:18:13.510
Oh, he was a beautiful man.

01:18:13.529 --> 01:18:16.100
So he was, and he had charisma, and ah.

01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:17.399
Oh, yeah, right.

01:18:19.270 --> 01:18:21.159
I'm sure your mother was beautiful as well.

01:18:21.170 --> 01:18:22.840
My mom is definitely beautiful as well.

01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:23.739
Yes, without a doubt.

01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:25.500
And I actually have a lot of my mom in me.

01:18:25.500 --> 01:18:26.765
Like, if you put a together.

01:18:26.765 --> 01:18:27.994
You're like, you're definitely glorious.

01:18:28.074 --> 01:18:29.845
So it's you and your mom for a while.

01:18:30.034 --> 01:18:32.015
So it's me and my mom for a while.

01:18:32.045 --> 01:18:33.555
Um, we're living in Colombia.

01:18:33.614 --> 01:18:35.444
She has her, her business.

01:18:35.484 --> 01:18:39.104
Colombia is violent, complicated, politically, politically.

01:18:39.274 --> 01:18:40.845
Hairstylists know lots of secrets.

01:18:41.234 --> 01:18:41.774
Exactly.

01:18:42.175 --> 01:18:42.685
You can imagine.

01:18:43.074 --> 01:18:43.395
Yes.

01:18:43.564 --> 01:18:44.024
Yes.

01:18:44.034 --> 01:18:45.454
We have all the stories.

01:18:45.454 --> 01:18:46.765
At least they got some intel at least.

01:18:46.765 --> 01:18:47.144
Yeah.

01:18:47.144 --> 01:18:49.034
It's the news channel five.

01:18:49.034 --> 01:18:49.664
It's the news channel.

01:18:49.664 --> 01:18:51.935
The most dependable news channel probably for most people.

01:18:51.984 --> 01:18:54.414
My mom would call me when she would have like the salon.

01:18:54.414 --> 01:18:57.845
She would call me and be like, Hi Juliana, you're not going to believe what my client told me.

01:18:58.095 --> 01:18:58.734
I was like, don't tell me.

01:18:59.095 --> 01:18:59.541
I don't want to know.

01:18:59.541 --> 01:19:00.085
I don't want to know.

01:19:00.484 --> 01:19:04.585
Like Jesus, this shit would stay with me for like two weeks and I was like, damn you mom.

01:19:04.604 --> 01:19:06.774
Like she would put the weirdest information in my brain.

01:19:06.774 --> 01:19:07.354
That hasn't changed by the way.

01:19:07.354 --> 01:19:08.675
That hasn't changed.

01:19:08.675 --> 01:19:09.114
Yeah.

01:19:09.114 --> 01:19:09.454
Anyway.

01:19:09.574 --> 01:19:10.045
It's still the same.

01:19:10.414 --> 01:19:11.564
So we're back in Colombia.

01:19:11.564 --> 01:19:12.694
My mom is doing the hairstyle.

01:19:12.725 --> 01:19:15.125
My mom is at that point, a single mom.

01:19:15.539 --> 01:19:18.600
So food in my house, it's not priority.

01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:24.880
Priority is to make money to put in the household so we can sustain the mortgage and all of those things, you know, that as a kid, you have no fucking clue.

01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:26.380
And it's really better that way.

01:19:26.859 --> 01:19:39.350
Um, so my food relationship came from my uncle and my uncles and my aunts that would cook because they were, you know, State at home moms.

01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.729
So they would have the time to cook for their family.

01:19:42.750 --> 01:19:44.229
My mom was a working mom.

01:19:44.229 --> 01:19:48.493
Did they bring food over to you or did you go over to them for family meals and stuff?

01:19:48.493 --> 01:19:48.777
Exactly.

01:19:48.777 --> 01:19:54.109
So every Sunday we would go either to visit my aunts or my uncle or my grandmother back then.

01:19:54.449 --> 01:19:57.630
And that's where I would sample food that was not part of my weekly menu.

01:19:57.630 --> 01:19:58.260
My mom had.

01:19:58.375 --> 01:19:59.734
Five things that she would knock out to cook.

01:19:59.805 --> 01:20:00.095
All of them horrible.

01:20:00.095 --> 01:20:00.774
What was your weekly?

01:20:01.164 --> 01:20:01.784
Tell me, tell me.

01:20:01.835 --> 01:20:02.024
Oh Jesus.

01:20:02.395 --> 01:20:03.505
I want to hear what they are a little bit.

01:20:03.845 --> 01:20:04.164
Okay.

01:20:04.194 --> 01:20:09.085
She, she would call, one of them was we eat, we call it, so it's a bean soup, right?

01:20:09.154 --> 01:20:09.475
Okay.

01:20:09.484 --> 01:20:10.024
Super simple.

01:20:10.045 --> 01:20:11.675
So it's just beans and rice.

01:20:12.274 --> 01:20:13.704
You think that you cannot mess those up.

01:20:13.704 --> 01:20:15.814
With some broth and some salt and pepper or whatever.

01:20:15.814 --> 01:20:16.574
Yes, yes.

01:20:16.574 --> 01:20:19.654
Just, just peasant food at Gruel.

01:20:20.100 --> 01:20:24.010
Yes, but at least you could make beans and rice soup.

01:20:24.270 --> 01:20:25.000
Tastes good.

01:20:26.090 --> 01:20:27.279
My mom would not try.

01:20:28.289 --> 01:20:30.560
That was not, not part of the agenda.

01:20:31.859 --> 01:20:32.930
Not a priority by any means.

01:20:32.930 --> 01:20:39.569
She would make this, I'm going to call saute veggies, but it was horrible.

01:20:39.590 --> 01:20:41.550
It was just onion and peppers.

01:20:41.824 --> 01:20:42.845
semi sauteed.

01:20:42.845 --> 01:20:44.835
So there will still be like fajita.

01:20:45.074 --> 01:20:48.125
Yes, but, but, but badly, like poorly made.

01:20:48.494 --> 01:20:48.814
Right.

01:20:49.135 --> 01:20:49.664
Barely warm.

01:20:49.765 --> 01:20:51.354
Barely not translucent.

01:20:51.395 --> 01:20:51.854
No.

01:20:51.885 --> 01:20:52.194
Yes.

01:20:52.314 --> 01:20:53.265
Just horrible chicken.

01:20:53.265 --> 01:20:55.255
Flavorless.

01:20:55.255 --> 01:20:56.024
Not hot skillet.

01:20:56.024 --> 01:20:56.175
No.

01:20:56.185 --> 01:20:57.435
Almost like steam fajitas.

01:20:57.835 --> 01:20:59.494
The worst type of fajitas that you can have.

01:20:59.524 --> 01:21:05.010
And then she would make She would call it like a tuna souffle, which has nothing to do with the tuna souffle.

01:21:05.380 --> 01:21:07.779
Especially because, first of all, tuna in a souffle, no.

01:21:08.020 --> 01:21:09.020
Wait, you're talking about like a can of tuna?

01:21:09.189 --> 01:21:11.180
Like, yeah, like canned tuna.

01:21:11.310 --> 01:21:11.449
Okay.

01:21:11.510 --> 01:21:19.805
And she would put canned veggies, and probably mayo and eggs, and she would just mix that shit up and put it in a, in a, in a pan, like in a muffin pan.

01:21:19.805 --> 01:21:19.944
it for a while.

01:21:19.944 --> 01:21:20.590
And bake, bake it.

01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:23.479
And then she would cut that like a meatball.

01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:24.283
That sounds amazing.

01:21:24.283 --> 01:21:25.085
Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:21:25.085 --> 01:21:26.154
It was, it was.

01:21:26.154 --> 01:21:27.949
It was like the version of Spam.

01:21:27.949 --> 01:21:35.090
It And then obviously, you know, I wouldn't eat any of that stuff.

01:21:35.100 --> 01:21:38.640
So my mom would have to go to a psychologist and be like, my daughter doesn't eat.

01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.439
And then she would tell the psychologist what she was cooking.

01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:42.630
And she was like, no wonder why you can't.

01:21:43.659 --> 01:21:47.640
So, and I gotta tell you, she eats like a cow, like you eat so much.

01:21:48.189 --> 01:21:52.600
When I, I have an appetite for good food, but it doesn't necessarily need to be.

01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:53.939
I don't like complicated food.

01:21:53.939 --> 01:21:57.569
You don't get to me with complicated processes and high end.

01:21:57.609 --> 01:22:03.199
No, I like, I appreciate that, but you make me a really good rice and I am there for you.

01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:07.560
You put a fried egg on top of that rice and I'm the happiest girl on life.

01:22:09.489 --> 01:22:11.010
What do you think about the loco moco?

01:22:11.510 --> 01:22:12.119
What is that?

01:22:12.470 --> 01:22:13.819
You don't know about the loco moco?

01:22:13.859 --> 01:22:22.579
No! Oh it's a Hawaiian dish, uh, and it's rice, usually a hamburger patty.

01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:23.409
Okay.

01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:24.859
Brown gravy.

01:22:25.255 --> 01:22:26.305
And a fried egg.

01:22:26.614 --> 01:22:27.654
No, I didn't.

01:22:27.654 --> 01:22:29.145
You know what moco means in Spanish?

01:22:29.345 --> 01:22:29.734
Booger.

01:22:29.845 --> 01:22:30.284
Booger.

01:22:32.064 --> 01:22:32.975
The crazy booger.

01:22:32.984 --> 01:22:33.765
That's what I heard.

01:22:34.864 --> 01:22:36.375
I don't know if I want to try that burger.

01:22:36.375 --> 01:22:40.604
Hooli's favorite thing is a booger.

01:22:40.604 --> 01:22:41.185
For a while.

01:22:41.185 --> 01:22:49.095
And that is, uh, Like the meal, like, um, it is the thing, like, it is the thing that if you go to Hawaii, you don't have a local moko.

01:22:49.215 --> 01:22:52.890
We, we, you know what we tried, we tried the Musubi, uh, oh God, God.

01:22:52.890 --> 01:22:54.810
Which is the spam with the rice and a little bit of, uh oh.

01:22:54.810 --> 01:22:54.930
Yeah.

01:22:54.930 --> 01:22:55.050
Yeah.

01:22:55.050 --> 01:22:55.930
I had some of those.

01:22:55.930 --> 01:22:56.895
That was so fucking good.

01:22:56.925 --> 01:23:00.194
That was so, we love mu we would go to the gas stations and just pack in Musubi.

01:23:01.125 --> 01:23:04.335
I still, I still have to win her heart by cooking for her all the time.

01:23:04.335 --> 01:23:08.444
So I'm going to make you guys Loko, moko oh, when we have you over for dinner.

01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:14.270
It's been, I've been too long since we do, I like to do like, we have a table for eight.

01:23:14.909 --> 01:23:18.265
So I like to have eight people for dinner and couples that don't know each other.

01:23:18.265 --> 01:23:19.380
That's such a nice number too.

01:23:19.430 --> 01:23:19.699
Yeah.

01:23:19.750 --> 01:23:23.180
Because it's easy to host eight people and be a part of your gathering.

01:23:23.619 --> 01:23:27.262
So it's not, you know, when you have 15, 16, you know, exactly, exactly.

01:23:27.262 --> 01:23:27.500
Yep.

01:23:27.500 --> 01:23:27.739
Yep.

01:23:27.739 --> 01:23:34.229
And then a corner can be like three or four people and then some people can go outside and hang and whatever, you know.

01:23:34.779 --> 01:23:35.779
We love, we love that.

01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:36.340
That number.

01:23:36.670 --> 01:23:37.279
Makes us feel good.

01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:38.560
So, um.

01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:38.625
Um.

01:23:39.034 --> 01:23:41.055
We'll have to plan like a Tuesday.

01:23:41.515 --> 01:23:47.354
I was gonna say between a Tuesday and a Wednesday, more likely we can make it.

01:23:47.395 --> 01:23:49.864
But, uh, and I'm going to ask you to bring something too.

01:23:49.885 --> 01:23:50.814
Just perfect.

01:23:51.034 --> 01:23:51.545
Perfect.

01:23:52.074 --> 01:23:55.545
I'll be the main host, but we can, we can bring a little something.

01:23:55.875 --> 01:23:56.305
Exactly.

01:23:57.244 --> 01:24:01.255
So, um, so your mom then remarries, I guess, and that's a new chapter.

01:24:01.875 --> 01:24:02.244
Yes.

01:24:02.305 --> 01:24:08.265
So basically this is my life until I was Not not so long after she actually fell in love.

01:24:08.314 --> 01:24:09.635
So my mom used to rent.

01:24:09.864 --> 01:24:12.494
We used to own a big house for just the two of us.

01:24:12.505 --> 01:24:14.925
So she had the salon in the garage.

01:24:14.954 --> 01:24:21.935
And just like Juan was saying, in Colombia, it's really normal that you have the residential and the commercial areas kind of get mixed in some neighborhoods.

01:24:22.494 --> 01:24:27.755
So she had her salon in the garage and then we had like another two, three rooms spare in the house.

01:24:28.074 --> 01:24:31.164
And there was a college close to my house, like a couple of, uh, blocks.

01:24:31.255 --> 01:24:32.265
Like a boarding house almost?

01:24:32.274 --> 01:24:37.895
So, so students from other countries, I mean, other cities in the country would come to Medellín to study.

01:24:37.895 --> 01:24:42.484
So my mom, because it was a family house, like they would come and rent a house.

01:24:42.484 --> 01:24:43.515
It was a source of income for her too.

01:24:43.524 --> 01:24:45.404
Exactly, to sustain us as well.

01:24:45.414 --> 01:24:47.354
So basically, that was my life, blah, blah, blah.

01:24:47.604 --> 01:24:48.215
One of those.

01:24:48.234 --> 01:24:55.305
students, basically a guy, 16 years younger than my mom.

01:24:55.305 --> 01:24:56.435
I mean, this is ridiculous.

01:24:56.444 --> 01:24:59.034
I'm always like, how old was you compared to him?

01:24:59.194 --> 01:25:07.194
Um, him and I have 12 years in difference and he has 16 with my mom, so there's less years between the two of us.

01:25:07.734 --> 01:25:10.364
Damn, like that's cougar action all the way.

01:25:10.614 --> 01:25:11.145
That's impressive.

01:25:11.185 --> 01:25:14.559
But my mom, she says that she has no, she had no self control at that point.

01:25:14.559 --> 01:25:15.253
It was just love.

01:25:15.253 --> 01:25:17.074
Did she grab him at 16?

01:25:17.114 --> 01:25:17.944
He was very insistent.

01:25:17.944 --> 01:25:26.194
No, he was, so he was, my mom was, he was 18 and my mom was, well you do the math, 30 something.

01:25:26.194 --> 01:25:26.274
Yeah.

01:25:26.274 --> 01:25:26.625
Yeah.

01:25:26.989 --> 01:25:28.760
So, and she was like, do you wanna be my husband?

01:25:28.970 --> 01:25:29.510
So, no.

01:25:29.510 --> 01:25:32.145
He, he, no, he really like, he wared my mom.

01:25:32.164 --> 01:25:32.385
Oh.

01:25:32.404 --> 01:25:32.625
Oh.

01:25:32.625 --> 01:25:33.949
He fell in love with my mom.

01:25:33.949 --> 01:25:35.960
And he would, for time, he would write.

01:25:36.329 --> 01:25:47.760
What like, uh, those like Egyptian parchment papers that you would roll and just like scroll out, he would write just like, you know, 10 letter, 10 page letters to my mom.

01:25:48.100 --> 01:25:53.560
So anyway, they fell in love and they had this relationship, which was like in the pink stage for what it seemed like years.

01:25:53.579 --> 01:25:57.199
And then he was working with the textile.

01:25:58.529 --> 01:26:04.210
He's well, he's my stepdad because him and I had many years and then my sister came along.

01:26:04.619 --> 01:26:08.779
So he, for, for that, I'm forever grateful, forever grateful.

01:26:09.010 --> 01:26:16.250
We have, um, I'd say a complicated relationship, but I love him to death because my sister is like the best gift that ever came to me.

01:26:16.630 --> 01:26:21.069
So anyway, he came to our life and, and then, uh, he was working with the textile.

01:26:21.555 --> 01:26:24.185
Let's say department in Colombia with the government and everything.

01:26:24.185 --> 01:26:30.694
And at some point they were opening a market to Mexico, like starting to expand that operation to Mexico.

01:26:30.734 --> 01:26:32.404
And he was a really good salesman.

01:26:32.595 --> 01:26:35.005
I mean, he got my mom 16 years different.

01:26:35.085 --> 01:26:45.680
So he had a lot of, um, yeah, we call it like when you have, um, the charisma, the wording, like That would be a good word for it.

01:26:45.739 --> 01:26:52.100
Kurt, when you have a way to manipulate the words and you're like, savvy with it and you convince people.

01:26:52.100 --> 01:26:54.159
Yeah, persuasive.

01:26:54.159 --> 01:27:14.715
I have that and then if I, Like, I usually vomit too, just intentionally, like, I, I, I sabotaged my own suave, yeah, I have lots of it, and then I don't want to seem to be that kind of guy, I don't want to be around people like that, I just, you know, here, let me say this, anyway.

01:27:16.225 --> 01:27:17.545
So that moved you to Mexico, your family.

01:27:17.545 --> 01:27:17.994
Exactly.

01:27:18.024 --> 01:27:20.664
So, through that, he moved to Mexico.

01:27:20.664 --> 01:27:23.765
And you're like 10 years older or 8 years older than your 11.

01:27:23.835 --> 01:27:25.104
No, but how old is your sister?

01:27:25.145 --> 01:27:26.364
My sister doesn't exist.

01:27:26.385 --> 01:27:27.744
My sister was born in Mexico.

01:27:27.744 --> 01:27:28.175
Oh, wow.

01:27:28.494 --> 01:27:32.885
So, he moved to Mexico and my mom is like, I have my life here, my house, you know, my daughter.

01:27:32.885 --> 01:27:34.524
I'm not gonna move my daughter to Mexico.

01:27:34.524 --> 01:27:34.814
Oh, wow.

01:27:35.215 --> 01:27:38.074
And he's like, okay, I'll go and I'll figure it out.

01:27:38.095 --> 01:27:44.604
It wasn't, it wasn't even three to six months, I want to say, and they were writing each other and crying over the phone.

01:27:44.604 --> 01:27:46.215
And then this was just huge.

01:27:46.215 --> 01:27:46.335
Yeah.

01:27:46.795 --> 01:28:12.439
So at some point he's, he's like, you know what, just Fuck your life in Colombia just come and let's figure it out together for a while for a while Yeah so my mom put her house in brand and she's like let's go and figure it out blah blah blah and we moved to Mexico and We found a life in Mexico and my mom found a calling to she started working with textiles She went back to the hairstylist You know, uh, years later, but they both started working in textiles and that relationship just flourish.

01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:15.890
And my sister textiles, like, what is that?

01:28:15.890 --> 01:28:17.210
What are you like rugs?

01:28:18.170 --> 01:28:21.399
No, Columbia has really good, um, cotton.

01:28:21.609 --> 01:28:21.909
Okay.

01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.430
So we, we create.

01:28:24.845 --> 01:28:31.435
Fabrics that are cotton and then we sell that whether it's fabric, or already confection.

01:28:31.725 --> 01:28:33.284
It's almost like mining really.

01:28:33.904 --> 01:28:34.345
Basically.

01:28:34.604 --> 01:28:35.364
And farming too.

01:28:35.364 --> 01:28:36.574
I mean, I'm the son of a farmer.

01:28:36.645 --> 01:28:41.984
And like, there's only a few real pure industries.

01:28:42.354 --> 01:28:55.045
You know, if you pull gold out of the ground, or you grow crops, or you make clothing, or whatever, like those are the really base industries upon which everything else is built.

01:28:55.494 --> 01:29:03.289
You know, the reason that we can have a food service organization, cause somebody pulled some gold out of the ground one day, you know, with the farming and all that.

01:29:03.289 --> 01:29:06.935
And then we're not farming naked, so Right, right, exactly.

01:29:07.625 --> 01:29:12.074
Maybe some, but I would like to, but I need a little bit bigger yard.

01:29:12.074 --> 01:29:12.475
One of these days.

01:29:14.944 --> 01:29:18.604
So anyway, that moved us to, to Mexico.

01:29:18.625 --> 01:29:22.175
And I guess after a few years, it wasn't temporary anymore.

01:29:22.175 --> 01:29:33.699
And we found a life in Mexico and my sister came along and, um, Columbia was if Columbia was complicated and violent when we were living there, when the opportunity to move to Mexico came, we were really grateful.

01:29:33.699 --> 01:29:34.420
That was a relief.

01:29:34.430 --> 01:29:36.090
That was a relief without a doubt.

01:29:36.100 --> 01:29:39.050
Like moving aside from all the violence and craziness.

01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:40.229
No way.

01:29:40.260 --> 01:29:41.890
Columbia is cooler.

01:29:41.890 --> 01:29:42.399
That's my home.

01:29:42.460 --> 01:29:43.210
No, of course.

01:29:43.210 --> 01:29:54.550
I mean, I love Columbia to death, but the reality is that for example, it was so extreme Kurt that as I was walking to school and I was only, I'm going to say.

01:29:54.770 --> 01:30:11.805
Eight to ten blocks away from my school, my mom would walk with me and Some at some occasions that there would be bombs happening in, in commercial places that if you were there in the wrong time at the wrong place, it happened to a cousin of mine.

01:30:11.805 --> 01:30:12.835
I lost family.

01:30:13.074 --> 01:30:17.045
I had family that was kidnapped and killed and kidnapped and blah, blah, blah.

01:30:17.045 --> 01:30:21.685
And all of those things, all those scenarios that you guys have in movies that was happening in the city.

01:30:22.114 --> 01:30:27.034
So moving away your kid from that scenario, knowing that they cannot walk to school.

01:30:27.034 --> 01:30:27.284
Of course.

01:30:27.475 --> 01:30:27.725
Right.

01:30:27.725 --> 01:30:28.765
It's fine to take it out of that.

01:30:28.765 --> 01:30:29.125
Survival.

01:30:29.795 --> 01:30:30.074
Yeah.

01:30:30.114 --> 01:30:36.408
It didn't matter if we were moving from Colombia to Mexico, which Mexico has its own problems, has nothing to do with the problems that we had.

01:30:36.408 --> 01:30:41.810
And is Venezuela in some ways kin to Colombia in terms of the slave trade, but they don't have as much black population, right?

01:30:41.810 --> 01:30:44.795
Well, back in the day, it was the great Colombia, all that territory.

01:30:44.805 --> 01:30:45.864
La Gran Colombia was.

01:30:45.954 --> 01:30:46.475
Oh.

01:30:46.475 --> 01:30:46.795
Was.

01:30:46.795 --> 01:30:47.574
So it was huge.

01:30:47.574 --> 01:30:48.295
It was all the way to Panama.

01:30:48.295 --> 01:30:49.649
It was Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador.

01:30:49.649 --> 01:30:52.114
Oh, which would have been a contender to Brazil.

01:30:52.505 --> 01:30:53.295
And Bolivia, yes.

01:30:53.295 --> 01:30:57.385
And somebody decided they didn't want, Well, they divided like everything.

01:30:57.385 --> 01:31:06.020
They started dividing the land that I don't know as much, but, uh, Venezuela, it's interesting that would have been like the super state of the, of the.

01:31:06.489 --> 01:31:07.220
South America.

01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:17.850
So the Venezuelan, the conflict that the Venezuelans have had has, it's completely, let's say, I'm going to say for what I know, because obviously I'm not from Venezuela, so my opinion is not objective.

01:31:18.289 --> 01:31:18.560
Yeah.

01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:19.189
Oh yeah.

01:31:19.189 --> 01:31:29.284
So the conflict that they have had in the past 30 years that I've been living the conflict of being a part of it because it obviously affects my, my country directly.

01:31:29.944 --> 01:31:36.364
They've had horrible governments that have abused the resources of the country for the benefit of only a few.

01:31:36.824 --> 01:31:41.954
So, the general population has been fighting with poverty.

01:31:42.034 --> 01:31:44.854
I've had several financial problems on the podcast over time.

01:31:44.925 --> 01:31:52.260
And it's super hard because A lot of them are trying just to have a decent living, but it was so prosperous 20 years ago.

01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.590
Before Chavez, Venezuela was one thing.

01:31:56.039 --> 01:31:59.859
When Chavez came along, the country changed and now with Maduro, it's a whole different situation.

01:31:59.859 --> 01:32:03.390
So their struggle is more a social political struggle.

01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:07.859
Our struggle was with violence on the street from guerrillas.

01:32:09.420 --> 01:32:14.000
There were still factories running, the textile mills were still churning out goods, all that.

01:32:14.029 --> 01:32:15.260
Everybody was living in dodgy moods.

01:32:15.270 --> 01:32:16.050
Yeah, exactly.

01:32:16.060 --> 01:32:18.770
You just don't know if you're going to get blowed up on a particular day.

01:32:18.779 --> 01:32:19.699
Life has to continue.

01:32:19.699 --> 01:32:24.439
Like for example, we never had the issues, like in Colombia you go to the store and you can still find toilet paper.

01:32:24.449 --> 01:32:24.630
Right.

01:32:24.630 --> 01:32:26.140
You can still buy eggs and shit.

01:32:26.140 --> 01:32:26.974
You can still.

01:32:26.974 --> 01:32:34.039
Venezuela, you go to the stupid store and there's nothing on the shelves, and if there was anything, you might not even have the money to buy it, you know?

01:32:34.409 --> 01:32:35.159
Colombia has never.

01:32:35.725 --> 01:32:37.614
For two weeks ago, but now you don't.

01:32:39.375 --> 01:32:39.704
Yes.

01:32:39.744 --> 01:32:41.664
Our situation has always been very different.

01:32:42.875 --> 01:32:48.164
When we moved to Mexico, like my reality completely changed and I feel like I'm Colombian inside.

01:32:48.164 --> 01:32:52.125
Like I have a lot of Columbia in me, but I'm, that's why I carry.

01:32:52.229 --> 01:32:53.750
The Mexican and the Colombian flag.

01:32:53.770 --> 01:32:59.930
Like I went to, I got to Mexico when I was 11 and I saw Mexican ground for the next 20, 25 years of my life.

01:32:59.960 --> 01:33:05.329
I became Mexican, like the tradition, the culture, I got enriched by it.

01:33:05.329 --> 01:33:06.420
It became a part of me.

01:33:06.420 --> 01:33:12.704
So I cannot deny, like, obviously I love Colombia to death, but the two countries are, Very important for me.

01:33:12.704 --> 01:33:14.145
There's a Mexican sassiness.

01:33:14.284 --> 01:33:24.755
While we're here, um, because I think you're, it's fascinating because of your, like, European lookingness and stuff, like, were you accepted well in Mexico?

01:33:24.854 --> 01:33:26.854
No, I was bullied so much.

01:33:27.265 --> 01:33:28.835
Even as an 11 year old and whatever?

01:33:28.835 --> 01:33:29.645
Oh my god, yes.

01:33:29.645 --> 01:33:31.225
Were you like, weird, tall, early?

01:33:31.670 --> 01:33:32.829
I was really tall.

01:33:32.829 --> 01:33:33.430
Unfortunately.

01:33:33.729 --> 01:33:33.949
Yes.

01:33:33.960 --> 01:33:37.225
Sorry, just asking you should I know was super short.

01:33:37.225 --> 01:33:41.125
I was five foot one at the beginning of my junior year of high school.

01:33:41.274 --> 01:33:43.074
Oh, so you were like one That's what me, I was Mr.

01:33:43.074 --> 01:33:43.795
Tiny Pants.

01:33:43.795 --> 01:33:45.085
I was the first in line.

01:33:45.204 --> 01:33:53.095
I never had to like worry about anything else except that I was just the tiniest, no, that did not happen for me.

01:33:53.425 --> 01:33:54.625
I, for me it was.

01:33:55.069 --> 01:34:09.800
So, you know how, if you put me at 11 years old in, in, in Mexico City, in a place that it's more like, um, for locals, like we were the only, I was the only foreigner in my school and it was a big school.

01:34:10.180 --> 01:34:12.649
So my accent was really funny.

01:34:13.270 --> 01:34:20.829
My words were very different, like the way, like to put an example in Colombia, when we, what we call wax.

01:34:21.135 --> 01:34:23.034
It's called semen, like literally.

01:34:23.425 --> 01:34:23.994
Oh.

01:34:24.335 --> 01:34:29.989
So if you are trying to explain a situation that involves wax on your chair in school in year 11.

01:34:29.989 --> 01:34:31.631
Like I've got semen on my chair.

01:34:31.631 --> 01:34:40.585
So that would be, you know, and on top of that I had all the braces and all the, Equipment that they could put on your teeth around your mouth already.

01:34:40.645 --> 01:34:46.125
I had, thank God, no glasses, but I had like the things that pull your teeth that go above your head.

01:34:46.125 --> 01:34:46.824
Oh, no way.

01:34:46.824 --> 01:34:47.704
You had to wear it to school?

01:34:47.725 --> 01:34:48.234
Yes.

01:34:48.404 --> 01:34:50.255
So I had like the outer part of that.

01:34:50.274 --> 01:34:53.319
I had like all the tiny, Rubber bands.

01:34:53.350 --> 01:34:53.460
All the colors.

01:34:53.460 --> 01:34:54.609
Your teeth are beautiful, though.

01:34:54.630 --> 01:34:56.476
Look how, compared to my smile.

01:34:56.476 --> 01:34:56.943
After six years.

01:34:56.943 --> 01:34:57.564
Yeah, look at mine.

01:34:57.564 --> 01:34:57.720
Yeah.

01:34:57.720 --> 01:34:59.779
Yeah, mine's all janky compared to yours.

01:35:00.220 --> 01:35:02.130
Six years of torture, people.

01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:04.529
This is what it takes to have this kind of teeth.

01:35:05.350 --> 01:35:12.439
But anyway, so I was bullied through so many angles and I was miserable, I think, for the first two to three years of my life in Mexico.

01:35:12.710 --> 01:35:14.149
It was a really rough time.

01:35:14.529 --> 01:35:15.279
But then, you know what?

01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:19.689
You find also I agree, because that, like I think you find your way.

01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:33.234
I think every time you move to anywhere, it Especially at that age, yeah, like, even, even when it happened to me when I moved to Mexico City from Ensenada, Uh, I also, I was a tiniest and I got bullied for two, three years.

01:35:33.284 --> 01:35:34.194
Yeah, yeah.

01:35:34.564 --> 01:35:37.454
One summer I just grew and I came back and it was pay time.

01:35:37.454 --> 01:35:41.335
What was the circumstance of your move, uh, to Mexico City?

01:35:41.375 --> 01:35:42.255
My parents got divorced.

01:35:42.609 --> 01:35:43.210
Oh, really?

01:35:43.229 --> 01:35:43.710
Okay.

01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:44.729
Now the drama's turned.

01:35:45.319 --> 01:35:47.399
Um, I'm gonna actually call a short break.

01:35:47.500 --> 01:35:48.805
Because I have to pee.

01:35:48.805 --> 01:35:48.970
Good.

01:35:48.970 --> 01:35:50.159
And I want a little more bourbon.

01:35:50.590 --> 01:35:50.699
Perfect.

01:35:50.699 --> 01:35:51.939
And, uh, then we'll jump back in.

01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:53.029
Sounds beautiful.

01:35:53.140 --> 01:35:53.439
Alright.

01:36:40.524 --> 01:36:45.465
And when we left, uh, you had just moved to Mexico City as a young lad.

01:36:45.484 --> 01:36:47.125
Uh, were you high school, teenage?

01:36:47.194 --> 01:36:48.984
I was in, uh, Middle school?

01:36:49.164 --> 01:36:50.005
Middle school.

01:36:50.354 --> 01:36:51.284
I was 11 years.

01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:53.270
11 to 12, somewhere around there.

01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:53.659
Okay.

01:36:53.989 --> 01:36:59.060
And funny, um, because I mean, like we were talking, there's, there was a lot of bullying.

01:36:59.060 --> 01:37:01.920
My accent was super thick for the city boys.

01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:02.819
Oh yeah.

01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:10.829
From being like, from there an from Escondido like, or es up in Ada in the northwest of, uh, of Mexico.

01:37:10.829 --> 01:37:17.284
Well, he literally came with a cowboy, like the ones in the north It's like Gonzalez like.

01:37:18.824 --> 01:37:23.045
And in Mexico City, we don't speak like that.

01:37:23.045 --> 01:37:24.515
Literally like a cartoon.

01:37:24.534 --> 01:37:24.944
Yeah.

01:37:26.034 --> 01:37:35.225
So every time I was in school, plus my parents, I don't know what they were thinking and not to offend any Catholic out there, but they put me in like Catholic school.

01:37:35.255 --> 01:37:39.284
So I grew up in Ensenada in a school that it was.

01:37:39.689 --> 01:37:42.399
It's kind of like a Montessori style.

01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:48.529
So they taught me how to communicate with plants and grow and everything was very purposeful.

01:37:48.630 --> 01:37:50.750
But with priests and nuns too?

01:37:50.979 --> 01:37:51.699
No, this is in Ensenada.

01:37:51.699 --> 01:37:52.884
This is their hometown.

01:37:52.884 --> 01:37:53.770
Oh, back there.

01:37:53.770 --> 01:37:58.208
And then when we moved to Mexico City, Oh, they're like, time for Catholic school.

01:37:58.208 --> 01:37:58.505
Yeah.

01:37:58.505 --> 01:38:02.640
I gotta do, no girls, all gray, like all dressed in gray.

01:38:02.689 --> 01:38:03.060
Right.

01:38:03.609 --> 01:38:04.270
No bugs.

01:38:04.270 --> 01:38:05.520
No rocks to flip over.

01:38:05.529 --> 01:38:06.000
Nothing.

01:38:06.029 --> 01:38:06.279
Nothing.

01:38:06.500 --> 01:38:14.079
I was like inside, I was like inside a jail, like literally like if they're for me, like how was that for your mental health?

01:38:14.260 --> 01:38:15.439
I horrible.

01:38:15.449 --> 01:38:19.010
It was like, it has been my worst five years of my life.

01:38:19.010 --> 01:38:21.989
I had, I was like in a reclusorio and like a.

01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:29.789
Like in jail, literally, like, we will get there like a prison because it was like, in order to get to school, they have to make you go at the end.

01:38:30.069 --> 01:38:32.380
Well, I was a nice kid.

01:38:32.380 --> 01:38:33.470
I guess I didn't say anything.

01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:36.867
I was like following my mom and my mom was a little boy.

01:38:36.867 --> 01:38:38.550
It was trusting her misery.

01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:38.890
Yeah.

01:38:38.890 --> 01:38:39.890
Day after day.

01:38:39.949 --> 01:38:40.380
Yeah.

01:38:40.409 --> 01:38:46.829
Well, it was like, you're, you're like the new kid in a, in a new prison, you know, that's how I felt.

01:38:47.300 --> 01:38:49.920
And with, uh, an accent that I will.

01:38:50.055 --> 01:38:52.204
Pinpoint me amongst everybody out there.

01:38:52.234 --> 01:38:53.925
Plus, I was the shortest of the whole fucking place.

01:38:54.494 --> 01:38:55.324
Talking about that.

01:38:55.505 --> 01:38:57.414
So, you know, everywhere.

01:38:57.425 --> 01:38:58.100
It was like.

01:38:58.670 --> 01:39:00.859
You know, for the bullies, I was, I was the target.

01:39:00.869 --> 01:39:11.939
So I also think that coming, I think when you're a kid and they move you from the countryside to the capital city, without a doubt, you're going to get bullied like the whole world.

01:39:12.020 --> 01:39:17.289
Plus I was sure just moving to Fargo, North Dakota, that I was going to be the dumbest person in town almost, you know, and just.

01:39:17.414 --> 01:39:26.024
Like I felt like a country bumpkin comparatively, and it took me a couple of years, it took me a couple of years to really realize that I'm just as smart as these fucking boners.

01:39:30.824 --> 01:39:39.625
But the first, the first few years, well, in North Dakota in general, like it's, it's Like a culture that doesn't think it can really compete with the rest of the world, almost, you know?

01:39:39.864 --> 01:39:40.784
Because you're isolated.

01:39:41.154 --> 01:39:41.994
Yeah, kind of.

01:39:41.994 --> 01:39:43.685
It's like, it's kind of that, you know?

01:39:43.685 --> 01:39:47.845
It's kind of the Guatemala of the United States.

01:39:48.135 --> 01:39:49.185
Well, there's two Dakotas.

01:39:49.215 --> 01:39:50.354
Is it the same for both of them?

01:39:50.715 --> 01:39:55.545
Um, South Dakota, well, South Dakota's got like the Mount Rushmore and the Black Hills.

01:39:56.055 --> 01:39:56.545
Ah, the Sturgis.

01:39:56.545 --> 01:39:58.255
Is that the reason why they divide them?

01:39:58.885 --> 01:40:09.265
Well, the reason that they were divided is because a bunch of people from South Dakota got all butthurt when Bismarck was chosen as the capital, so they split off and made South Dakota a separate state.

01:40:09.265 --> 01:40:11.034
No, they were supposed to be, it was supposed to be Dakota.

01:40:12.395 --> 01:40:12.914
And because of the capital?

01:40:12.914 --> 01:40:24.060
It was the Dakota Territory, and there was like a big fight about where the capital should be, and when North Dakota won with Bismarck, Then the South Dakotans were like, well, fuck you, we're not gonna do that.

01:40:24.060 --> 01:40:25.140
I'll just recreate, like, my acting.

01:40:25.140 --> 01:40:26.399
Yeah, we'll just split off, yeah.

01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:41.350
And, like, there wasn't really, like, armies or things to do, but you're like, alright, well, fuck you too, then, and so, historically, North Dakota State has beaten the tar out of South Dakota State in football, but last year, South Dakota State won the championship in the whole nation.

01:40:41.750 --> 01:40:42.220
Oh, holy shit.

01:40:42.260 --> 01:40:49.364
Um, yeah, they beat North Dakota Yeah, for, like, the level below, like, the Alabama and all the fancy colleges.

01:40:49.364 --> 01:40:53.555
Well, at least you were able to say, well, I got my ass whooped like everybody else.

01:40:53.585 --> 01:40:57.335
Well, but North Dakota won, like, 12 out of the last 15 championships.

01:40:57.654 --> 01:40:58.364
So they can have it.

01:40:58.454 --> 01:40:58.875
They can have it.

01:40:59.135 --> 01:40:59.664
But, yeah.

01:41:00.284 --> 01:41:01.534
Anyway, so I digress.

01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:03.310
Going back to that.

01:41:03.310 --> 01:41:06.189
I guess it's normal if you live from, if you come from a small place.

01:41:06.189 --> 01:41:06.399
Yeah.

01:41:06.694 --> 01:41:07.095
Come from the country.

01:41:07.314 --> 01:41:07.960
Go into the city.

01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:08.800
You know what's the worst part?

01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:12.130
Also, all those kids that they were in, in school, in Mexico is very different than here.

01:41:12.130 --> 01:41:15.520
Here you go to the system and, and to the school.

01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:15.774
Public schools.

01:41:16.354 --> 01:41:17.829
To the public schools and Mexico.

01:41:17.829 --> 01:41:20.079
You don't go to the public, you go to the private schools.

01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:21.354
No, but if private, right.

01:41:21.354 --> 01:41:25.090
If you've got the resources, nobody goes to, but you will think that the private schools are good.

01:41:25.090 --> 01:41:27.760
No, this is like the worst fucking school in the fucking world.

01:41:28.510 --> 01:41:30.375
like you're paying for really bad education.

01:41:30.380 --> 01:41:31.534
You have, you have like, yes.

01:41:32.085 --> 01:41:36.965
Like, priests telling you, it was like, just, you know.

01:41:36.965 --> 01:41:37.954
For you at least.

01:41:37.965 --> 01:41:41.765
Like, there's probably some kids that maybe somewhat thrived in that.

01:41:41.765 --> 01:41:42.744
Nobody liked the school.

01:41:42.795 --> 01:41:43.194
Okay.

01:41:43.604 --> 01:41:45.442
At an educational level, they're better.

01:41:45.442 --> 01:41:47.204
No, no, like, we all trashed it.

01:41:47.364 --> 01:41:48.654
We all trashed the school.

01:41:48.795 --> 01:41:49.744
They didn't teach us shit.

01:41:49.774 --> 01:41:51.015
The nuns were bitches.

01:41:51.024 --> 01:41:52.324
The priests were assholes.

01:41:52.324 --> 01:41:54.925
This is not, uh, this is not a Catholic school here in the United States.

01:41:54.925 --> 01:41:56.114
This is a Catholic school in Mexico.

01:41:56.385 --> 01:42:01.045
The priests are, uh, you know, We are the double standards in the Mexican culture.

01:42:01.055 --> 01:42:06.734
You guys goes all the way to the faith, to the organization, to the Catholic, like expand on that.

01:42:07.284 --> 01:42:17.404
Like, for example, uh, well, so hypocrisy is, we feel like hypocrisy is something of our culture as Mexicans and as Catholics to a point.

01:42:17.404 --> 01:42:17.835
I think.

01:42:18.010 --> 01:42:20.045
Catholic, Catholics in general.

01:42:20.045 --> 01:42:21.550
Catholics in general.

01:42:21.550 --> 01:42:22.409
Ask for forgiveness on Sunday.

01:42:22.409 --> 01:42:24.239
And like I said, exactly.

01:42:24.250 --> 01:42:24.279
Yes.

01:42:24.630 --> 01:42:33.791
So, so the culture, the culture of it, and I know probably everybody who's Catholic out there will not think the way that I think, and I'm sorry for what's Fuck them if they can't do a joke.

01:42:33.791 --> 01:42:34.538
There's no judging.

01:42:34.538 --> 01:42:36.033
We're not trying to offend anyone.

01:42:36.033 --> 01:42:43.819
This is me For me This is me going through the pool, to the pool of Catholicism for eight years of my life and getting out and being like, fuck, I'm not going back there.

01:42:44.899 --> 01:42:45.590
At least for now.

01:42:45.810 --> 01:42:46.090
All right.

01:42:46.100 --> 01:42:48.760
So I got into there.

01:42:48.819 --> 01:42:50.550
I've never been religious.

01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:54.930
Uh, and when I grew up in my hometown, and then suddenly they put me into this Catholic school.

01:42:54.939 --> 01:42:56.819
So like, you'd never even went to church hardly.

01:42:57.189 --> 01:42:59.739
Didn't know what Jesus was, all that kind of stuff.

01:42:59.789 --> 01:43:00.510
Not like that.

01:43:00.510 --> 01:43:08.189
Like my mom will be like, Uh, you don't have to go to church in order to talk to Jesus or to talk, not Jesus specifically, but to talk to a God.

01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:08.670
Yeah.

01:43:08.779 --> 01:43:09.039
Okay.

01:43:09.100 --> 01:43:11.420
But she did grow up, uh, Catholic as well.

01:43:11.460 --> 01:43:14.050
So we did got baptized and all that kind of stuff.

01:43:14.340 --> 01:43:16.760
But you did it more for, probably for the parties and the traditions.

01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:17.149
Yeah.

01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:19.300
You get your first communion because you get a party out of it.

01:43:19.300 --> 01:43:20.760
The first, the first, Yeah, yeah.

01:43:21.170 --> 01:43:34.949
All the time that, uh, that I grew up, that I was going to church, I was falling asleep every time, you know, and, and we were going three or two times a year, if at most, but, but that doesn't mean that we were not good, that we were not good people, you know?

01:43:35.350 --> 01:43:35.720
Yeah.

01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:37.850
So suddenly everything is about that.

01:43:38.100 --> 01:43:38.880
Everything is about religion.

01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:44.960
All the, all the kids that will go there have been together in the similar school system for 12 years.

01:43:45.189 --> 01:43:45.880
I haven't.

01:43:46.310 --> 01:43:50.380
So they come from, sorry, they come from the, from the tail system up already.

01:43:50.380 --> 01:43:51.829
No, they, they're veterans in there.

01:43:52.109 --> 01:43:54.579
So suddenly there's new kid, there's new rules.

01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:56.090
There's new, and you're rolling.

01:43:56.090 --> 01:43:59.199
You're like, I'm in school.

01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:01.779
And I'm trying to talk to the teacher to ask a question.

01:44:01.779 --> 01:44:03.220
And it's like, Hey, how do you say it?

01:44:04.100 --> 01:44:09.859
And then before, you know, everybody's laughing because it's super thick.

01:44:09.979 --> 01:44:11.750
And then fuck my question.

01:44:13.204 --> 01:44:13.625
Right.

01:44:13.625 --> 01:44:17.154
I'm just red faced and like, forget it.

01:44:17.154 --> 01:44:18.975
So I'm never going to ask a question again.

01:44:19.494 --> 01:44:23.774
Can I deal when I was always asking questions when you were always exploring always.

01:44:23.885 --> 01:44:27.734
So this place, this place took, like, they took my colors away.

01:44:28.965 --> 01:44:31.345
Like probably in the end I learned.

01:44:31.354 --> 01:44:33.045
Yeah, it was a benefit.

01:44:34.100 --> 01:44:35.039
Everything is a benefit.

01:44:35.060 --> 01:44:35.489
Yeah.

01:44:35.569 --> 01:44:36.039
At the end.

01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:47.500
If you, if you learn to see the angle, but you know, what was really fun about going to that school, uh, which I still have some of my best friends are from there, uh, came from that being in the place.

01:44:48.060 --> 01:44:48.725
Uh, it's.

01:44:49.484 --> 01:44:54.975
Hulu was going actually to the same school, but the girls, we were, we were literally wall fence, wall the fence away.

01:44:55.364 --> 01:44:56.895
No way before knowing each other.

01:44:56.895 --> 01:44:57.225
Yeah.

01:44:57.734 --> 01:44:57.975
Hilarious.

01:44:57.975 --> 01:45:01.329
I was going to the Catholic side of that same school, a school.

01:45:01.664 --> 01:45:02.715
And so how was that for you?

01:45:02.715 --> 01:45:04.364
Did you have a similar experience?

01:45:04.364 --> 01:45:08.555
So I, when I was going to schools in Columbia, I always went to private.

01:45:08.555 --> 01:45:09.335
I always went.

01:45:09.645 --> 01:45:10.414
To private schools.

01:45:10.414 --> 01:45:12.824
And they were usually Catholic and girls only in Columbia.

01:45:13.274 --> 01:45:20.774
But when we moved to Mexico for me, it was different because in Columbia, the majority of the schools that are not public are either for girls or for boys.

01:45:20.774 --> 01:45:21.835
And they're always religious.

01:45:22.045 --> 01:45:23.404
Those are the options that we had.

01:45:23.425 --> 01:45:29.645
Well, when I was growing up, probably nowadays, you probably have the Waldo charter school type things, Montessori schools, whatever.

01:45:29.694 --> 01:45:31.225
But back in the nineties, there was none of that.

01:45:31.234 --> 01:45:32.734
So the options were limited.

01:45:32.734 --> 01:45:49.824
So when I moved to Mexico, I actually moved to a school that was, um, Like, um, that, that education and religion does not mix, uh, like you separate that and, and our school systems in Latin America, religion goes hand by hand with education.

01:45:50.295 --> 01:45:53.645
So we don't have, there's no separation of faith and church.

01:45:53.914 --> 01:45:59.274
I mean, there is, but there's, but, but, you know, so corruption, you know, which one you're studying, but yeah.

01:45:59.585 --> 01:46:04.404
So when I went to Mexico and Mexico, there's more of the schools that have no religion in them.

01:46:04.404 --> 01:46:04.454
Yeah.

01:46:04.975 --> 01:46:06.345
And less of the ones that have religion.

01:46:06.345 --> 01:46:10.515
So my first change was from a school of only girls to a school with no religion.

01:46:11.045 --> 01:46:13.404
Uh, we had uniforms, but there were boys and girls.

01:46:13.414 --> 01:46:14.835
That was super different for me.

01:46:15.324 --> 01:46:16.524
That was no, no religion.

01:46:16.564 --> 01:46:18.215
And then I was there.

01:46:18.484 --> 01:46:21.164
I moved, we moved a lot with my family.

01:46:21.164 --> 01:46:25.194
So I moved from one school to another, they were both boys and girls.

01:46:25.225 --> 01:46:31.614
And then when I got to high school, which is preparatory, you know, when I got to high school, they put me in that school.

01:46:31.925 --> 01:46:32.814
And I was.

01:46:32.895 --> 01:46:37.095
It's uncomfortable to say the least because of the same reason.

01:46:37.335 --> 01:46:47.262
So when you get into a school and you're already 15 and they've been on a stem, like growing up from the same place, following the same rules together, and you get there the way you think.

01:46:47.262 --> 01:46:49.295
And you barely take anybody new in kind of thing.

01:46:49.305 --> 01:46:50.465
It's really difficult.

01:46:50.704 --> 01:46:58.675
It's really difficult because you have no way, first of all, you only have three years and are the last three years of school.

01:46:58.715 --> 01:47:01.524
So at that point, everybody already has a friend.

01:47:01.524 --> 01:47:04.675
Everybody's very wise and you're completely different.

01:47:04.784 --> 01:47:05.564
You're a foreigner.

01:47:06.074 --> 01:47:07.635
You have to adapt to the new thing.

01:47:07.645 --> 01:47:16.984
You're the skinny Colombian girl in this, on top of that, with braces, on top of that, they, on top of the fact that they would bully for being Colombian.

01:47:17.484 --> 01:47:18.465
My mom was.

01:47:19.020 --> 01:47:21.680
At that point, divorce and marry it again.

01:47:22.145 --> 01:47:28.435
Which was already hard for me to go into that school, like she had to have recommendation letters from friends.

01:47:28.435 --> 01:47:38.125
So they would allow me, because I was, my mom was living in sin, quote unquote, for certain religious, you know, groups from the Catholic.

01:47:38.454 --> 01:47:41.845
You could be living in sin if you're divorced and married again.

01:47:41.845 --> 01:47:42.734
If you ever marry again.

01:47:43.090 --> 01:47:50.858
So, my mom got the absolution of the first marriage because my dad did a lot of things that he shouldn't have done as a husband.

01:47:50.858 --> 01:47:53.500
So, they gave my mom An annulment.

01:47:53.500 --> 01:47:54.288
Yes, exactly.

01:47:54.288 --> 01:47:57.445
So, basically, she became a single mom again.

01:47:57.445 --> 01:47:58.310
From the Vatican.

01:47:58.310 --> 01:48:02.489
But she never remarried, so she was living in sin with my stepdad.

01:48:02.489 --> 01:48:02.880
Oh, she never did?

01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:03.329
She never did.

01:48:03.399 --> 01:48:03.640
Oh, interesting.

01:48:03.670 --> 01:48:03.970
Okay.

01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:05.670
So they continue on that at anyway.

01:48:05.670 --> 01:48:08.109
So long story daughter of the sinner.

01:48:08.109 --> 01:48:15.659
So on top of that, they, when you move into, at least that's kind of how you were perceived in this community, right?

01:48:15.930 --> 01:48:18.479
Like your mom was this.

01:48:18.975 --> 01:48:21.364
Woman whose daughter they let be in the school.

01:48:22.614 --> 01:48:26.534
It's not their better judgment because she was like a single mom and whatever.

01:48:26.534 --> 01:48:30.564
It's not like she's this wonderful person that has this beautiful ethics and all.

01:48:30.564 --> 01:48:32.175
No, none of those things.

01:48:32.175 --> 01:48:33.284
It's all the judgment side.

01:48:33.854 --> 01:48:34.854
So for example, when you walk.

01:48:34.854 --> 01:48:36.395
That's the hypocrisy that you talk about.

01:48:36.454 --> 01:48:37.564
When you walk into those schools.

01:48:38.125 --> 01:48:48.744
Even though I was an A student top of my class, when it came to moral and ethics, which is a subject in religion, I would never get more than a C.

01:48:48.975 --> 01:48:52.534
Not because of my merits, but because of my family situation.

01:48:52.635 --> 01:48:53.274
Wow.

01:48:54.225 --> 01:48:55.694
Which in our mind is corruption.

01:48:55.694 --> 01:48:58.465
And all of those things are super uncomfortable.

01:48:58.534 --> 01:49:03.024
And when you're a Let's say a strong Oh, did you want another Pacifico?

01:49:03.265 --> 01:49:04.595
No, I'm I didn't get you one.

01:49:04.685 --> 01:49:06.534
No, but you offer me the water, this is better.

01:49:07.095 --> 01:49:07.204
Okay.

01:49:07.204 --> 01:49:09.125
I think this, this is a better decision right now.

01:49:09.125 --> 01:49:10.255
Okay, that's fair.

01:49:10.265 --> 01:49:17.685
Um, but anyway, so all of those things is like, I mean, they create an opposition from within because they're pushing things on you.

01:49:17.685 --> 01:49:35.439
So it's not only that So you guys were, when you, when you did meet and become friends, my perception is that at least, Somewhat your shared discomfort with your experience in the Catholic church school system in Mexico was We both came from foreign lands into the city, into a Catholic system that we were not great at.

01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:36.199
It was a shit show.

01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:40.239
So, the funny thing is that we have five years of experience.

01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:41.829
Maybe not a shit show, but not your flavor.

01:49:41.840 --> 01:49:43.689
Yes! No, it was a shit show.

01:49:43.689 --> 01:49:48.319
I licked it and it tasted like poop to me.

01:49:48.350 --> 01:49:49.479
Oh, no, no, no.

01:49:49.479 --> 01:49:52.199
It was, it was, uh, it was difficult.

01:49:52.210 --> 01:49:52.470
Yeah.

01:49:52.470 --> 01:49:53.880
It was all my freedoms.

01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:55.140
All of them were taken away.

01:49:55.149 --> 01:49:55.539
Oh, right.

01:49:55.539 --> 01:49:57.409
Cause you were kind of free range before that.

01:49:57.770 --> 01:49:58.880
I was a free range chicken.

01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:00.199
Completely.

01:50:00.750 --> 01:50:04.409
And I, and you know, I had to start fighting people in order to, to Right.

01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:05.409
To get some status.

01:50:05.409 --> 01:50:05.949
Yeah.

01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:06.819
It was ridiculous.

01:50:06.939 --> 01:50:07.140
Which sucks.

01:50:07.140 --> 01:50:09.220
And it took me three years in order to realize Right.

01:50:09.220 --> 01:50:09.899
You're not a fighter either.

01:50:09.930 --> 01:50:13.109
Like, you love hugs a lot more than you, like, Zero fighter.

01:50:13.109 --> 01:50:18.689
I was lucky enough that I, that I went to gymnastic when I was a kid, so I was strong, but I was little.

01:50:19.199 --> 01:50:20.375
And you had a kiddo too, but I, but huh?

01:50:20.395 --> 01:50:22.529
You had Aikido too, which probably helped.

01:50:22.529 --> 01:50:24.960
And a, but I mean, little things like that.

01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:31.109
And then I was the smallest of two older brothers, so But it wasn't until I get, I gained like, uh, size.

01:50:31.229 --> 01:50:31.649
Right.

01:50:31.739 --> 01:50:33.000
Uh, and when was that for you?

01:50:33.180 --> 01:50:35.729
Uh, it was like the freshman of.

01:50:36.194 --> 01:50:38.005
Here like the same equal year.

01:50:38.005 --> 01:50:38.744
It's freshmen.

01:50:38.755 --> 01:50:39.914
It's like 19 years old.

01:50:40.015 --> 01:50:40.784
Oh freshman high school.

01:50:40.784 --> 01:50:45.145
Yeah, I was uh, okay So you were normal timing for you.

01:50:45.234 --> 01:50:48.925
Yeah, it was like literally in the summer I was like 17 by the time I had my girl.

01:50:48.925 --> 01:50:55.335
I know I was a little bit late late bloomer I had given up.

01:50:55.335 --> 01:50:58.395
I was like, I was convinced I was going to be five foot three.

01:50:58.395 --> 01:51:01.534
This is what you still have here.

01:51:01.814 --> 01:51:03.164
This is what you still look young.

01:51:03.234 --> 01:51:03.715
Partly.

01:51:03.845 --> 01:51:04.074
Yeah.

01:51:04.074 --> 01:51:05.444
No, I'm, I'm a slow.

01:51:05.505 --> 01:51:08.595
I just turned 50.

01:51:08.595 --> 01:51:09.914
Look at my beard and look at your beard.

01:51:11.154 --> 01:51:13.175
Well, I got some white hairs in here.

01:51:13.175 --> 01:51:14.414
You're only 40 or something, right?

01:51:14.414 --> 01:51:15.015
44.

01:51:15.034 --> 01:51:21.699
But even me, uh, when I was in that school, I was what we call a years, uh, Swallower or whatever.

01:51:21.699 --> 01:51:22.029
Whatever say.

01:51:23.140 --> 01:51:23.560
Yeah.

01:51:23.859 --> 01:51:24.699
A skip year or something.

01:51:24.699 --> 01:51:26.770
Like a young like age.

01:51:26.770 --> 01:51:27.579
A baby face.

01:51:27.579 --> 01:51:27.582
Baby face.

01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:28.024
You don't need age.

01:51:28.024 --> 01:51:28.225
Yeah.

01:51:28.229 --> 01:51:28.329
Yeah.

01:51:28.329 --> 01:51:28.810
Me too.

01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:31.720
When I was in, I couldn't grow facial hair until I was like 28.

01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:35.140
I didn't like 33, 30 a long time.

01:51:35.140 --> 01:51:35.529
Really?

01:51:35.529 --> 01:51:38.050
It was basically I was 34, 33.

01:51:38.050 --> 01:51:39.699
I was able, I could really grow goatee.

01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.340
Yeah, but I mean, you've been fucking enjoying the color for a while.

01:51:42.390 --> 01:51:44.739
They gave me two years or three of color and fuck it.

01:51:46.500 --> 01:51:48.569
I'm like waiting for this fucking thing to grow.

01:51:48.569 --> 01:51:52.239
And then it grows and it turns white in like three fucking years, but I love it.

01:51:52.239 --> 01:51:53.479
And I love that you look beautiful.

01:51:53.810 --> 01:51:54.800
You're a handsome man.

01:51:57.579 --> 01:51:58.590
I do like the white.

01:51:58.590 --> 01:51:59.430
It does not bother me.

01:51:59.460 --> 01:52:00.430
No, I think it's fun.

01:52:00.930 --> 01:52:02.649
And you know what I like is.

01:52:03.335 --> 01:52:13.475
Like young gray haired women like that just rocked the gray when they're 34 years old or 37 and they got a young or even when they're 45 but they got a young face.

01:52:14.194 --> 01:52:14.685
I love it.

01:52:14.715 --> 01:52:16.824
I'd like, that's one of my favorite things.

01:52:16.824 --> 01:52:25.255
I think white hair is a, Oh my God, we've been celebrating, we've been celebrating my whites actually lately cause you know, and the red hair is, it's harder.

01:52:25.635 --> 01:52:27.145
Like, I'm never gonna get this contrast.

01:52:27.145 --> 01:52:27.744
I'm sure.

01:52:27.765 --> 01:52:29.854
Because I'm lighter in the base and all of those things.

01:52:29.864 --> 01:52:30.194
Right.

01:52:30.234 --> 01:52:30.835
Just like you.

01:52:30.845 --> 01:52:33.305
You probably have gray, but it's harder to see.

01:52:33.305 --> 01:52:34.425
Not in my hair, actually.

01:52:34.944 --> 01:52:35.244
Sorry.

01:52:35.465 --> 01:52:36.104
But in my beard, yeah.

01:52:36.104 --> 01:52:36.765
This is like gray.

01:52:37.225 --> 01:52:37.585
Yeah, yeah.

01:52:37.604 --> 01:52:41.885
But if you had like a black base, it would probably look so much more, yeah, for sure.

01:52:41.885 --> 01:52:48.640
Like, Juan and I have been talking, because as a, as a, As a redhead, you usually put like, uh, I don't know, color shampoos and shit like that to boost your color.

01:52:48.670 --> 01:52:54.810
I've never tint, like, I've never put, like, bleach and did something else on my voluptuous curly hair.

01:52:54.859 --> 01:52:55.300
Voluptuous.

01:52:55.430 --> 01:52:57.100
That's crazy for a Ah, it's so fucking cool.

01:52:57.109 --> 01:53:03.914
Like, nobody with a Hispanic accent, like It has hair like yours, like Irish people have hair like yours, basically.

01:53:04.475 --> 01:53:07.095
The weird camel looking girl that has hair.

01:53:07.095 --> 01:53:14.972
Every time we were in Colombia, because I don't know how people perceive me, like, they look at me and they're like You're just another Mexican dude, really.

01:53:14.972 --> 01:53:18.074
But when in Colombia, I'm not a Mexican dude.

01:53:18.074 --> 01:53:20.465
Because I look, I look more Spanish in Colombia.

01:53:20.475 --> 01:53:23.965
You do, yeah, well, especially if you're with this bright red haired gal.

01:53:24.095 --> 01:53:27.364
And then, for example, he also has some You look very Spanish, actually.

01:53:27.555 --> 01:53:41.034
I mean, I would say that's, yeah, it's more like, if I was gonna guess your heritage, it would be that Spanish, no Spanish, like not Hispanic, Spanish, like he's kind of classic.

01:53:41.034 --> 01:53:52.524
He's like a, like a What do they call that the, uh, like the picture in the, in the, in the dictionary, a specimen.

01:53:52.524 --> 01:53:54.875
He's like a specimen of a Spanish man.

01:53:54.885 --> 01:54:00.024
If you look the word Spanish man in the dictionary, a picture of Juan would come up.

01:54:00.055 --> 01:54:01.375
Yes, exactly.

01:54:01.385 --> 01:54:01.965
Exactly.

01:54:02.314 --> 01:54:03.854
Even though he's, you know, a half British.

01:54:03.914 --> 01:54:09.215
Read Mexican, Spanish, uh, you know, with the 23 and me, and that's actually kind of cool.

01:54:09.215 --> 01:54:11.444
I have like a bunch of friends somehow.

01:54:11.914 --> 01:54:21.414
And then my dad, he does have like the, and, uh, Native American, I have like 7 percent Native American.

01:54:21.704 --> 01:54:22.015
Okay.

01:54:22.045 --> 01:54:22.765
See in him.

01:54:22.765 --> 01:54:23.899
Like, I don't know.

01:54:23.899 --> 01:54:24.944
That's the indigenous people.

01:54:24.954 --> 01:54:26.104
I got the eagle nose.

01:54:26.104 --> 01:54:27.064
Yes.

01:54:27.375 --> 01:54:28.965
That's part of the mix.

01:54:28.965 --> 01:54:29.494
Yeah, the mix.

01:54:29.494 --> 01:54:31.114
A mestizo.

01:54:31.114 --> 01:54:33.935
A mestizo, that's what you meant.

01:54:33.954 --> 01:54:42.484
From my dad's side, they came from, uh, they came from Europe, and then they came to America, and they, it was like a whole fucking shit show.

01:54:42.484 --> 01:54:43.744
They all got married and remarried.

01:54:43.744 --> 01:54:44.345
Oh, interesting.

01:54:44.345 --> 01:54:45.885
So the whole line just got lost.

01:54:45.895 --> 01:54:46.944
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:55.470
I don't know their name, uh, uh, historically here, but, uh, where, when parents couldn't afford their kids, the government will take them away.

01:54:55.600 --> 01:55:00.920
Oh, like an orphanage kind of situation, foster care, kind of, and then they will foster it to families that they could take care of.

01:55:01.380 --> 01:55:04.970
So my, my dad's side of the family just kind of went through a lot of that.

01:55:04.970 --> 01:55:11.550
So it's hard to trace back, but, uh, part of it got mixed with, also with, uh, Native Americans.

01:55:11.850 --> 01:55:13.939
But on your mom's side is a hundred percent Spanish.

01:55:13.949 --> 01:55:15.260
And on my mom's side is like Spanish.

01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:22.239
I mean you can see the line, the line of the three brothers that came from Spain.

01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:31.199
They came from, they came from novelty where there's a, like a, like a shield with the palazuelos, which is my mother's maiden name.

01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:35.033
So it was almost royalty, not royalty, but you were definitely a significant family.

01:55:35.033 --> 01:55:38.829
It's like noble, like you have, yeah, you have like the papers.

01:55:38.859 --> 01:55:39.319
What is it called?

01:55:39.329 --> 01:55:40.399
Like the, the titles.

01:55:40.479 --> 01:55:47.930
Yeah, there was like a town with the flag and then, you know, I can, I can see them like kind of going in the horses with the big sticks.

01:55:48.369 --> 01:55:56.149
What is the, what is the name of the, like, for example, the, the, the icon in a flag, what is the name of that?

01:55:56.260 --> 01:55:56.690
It's, it's.

01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:02.979
Um, so like the coat of arms, like, yeah, like the coat of arms, coat of arms.

01:56:02.979 --> 01:56:03.229
There you go.

01:56:03.529 --> 01:56:03.750
Yeah.

01:56:03.750 --> 01:56:04.029
Yeah.

01:56:04.060 --> 01:56:12.569
When you came from your family had its own, it has like, like its own kind of town, like title, whatever, back in, I don't even know.

01:56:12.579 --> 01:56:17.659
I don't know a lot of the story on that end, but, uh, it's very clear on your mom's end, on your dad's end.

01:56:17.670 --> 01:56:18.569
It's a shh.

01:56:18.810 --> 01:56:20.449
And my dad, it's a mud house.

01:56:20.449 --> 01:56:20.710
Yeah.

01:56:20.750 --> 01:56:21.100
Yeah.

01:56:21.100 --> 01:56:22.260
It's completely, there's like.

01:56:22.649 --> 01:56:24.270
Cuban and this and that.

01:56:24.270 --> 01:56:27.260
And yeah, so half of my side is completely a mud.

01:56:27.869 --> 01:56:32.140
My, uh, like when I first moved to Fort Collins, which would have been what?

01:56:32.270 --> 01:56:36.270
Like 99, um, the internet was new, right?

01:56:36.310 --> 01:56:44.809
Like you guys probably remember that a little bit, like when I was coming in, it took like three minutes to watch a porno, right?

01:56:44.809 --> 01:56:47.930
To download it, it's like, you're almost there.

01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:52.609
That three minutes, I never actually watched any pornos until more recently.

01:56:53.069 --> 01:57:07.210
Um, but anyway, so, uh, there was this guy from, um, Denmark, I guess, uh, that, so we're one eighth, uh, Dutch.

01:57:07.211 --> 01:57:07.939
Dutch?

01:57:07.939 --> 01:57:08.510
Not Dutch.

01:57:10.239 --> 01:57:10.960
Not Danish.

01:57:11.289 --> 01:57:11.800
Netherlands.

01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:12.710
What's the Netherlands?

01:57:13.289 --> 01:57:14.720
Let's call it people from the Netherlands.

01:57:14.729 --> 01:57:15.800
Yeah, people from the Netherlands.

01:57:15.800 --> 01:57:16.380
Swensen.

01:57:17.189 --> 01:57:19.579
My great grandmother was a Swensen.

01:57:19.619 --> 01:57:20.659
Oh, that's how you call it?

01:57:20.661 --> 01:57:24.739
Um, and, so anyway, he had this genealogy.

01:57:25.364 --> 01:57:29.034
Going back all the way to like 1591.

01:57:29.034 --> 01:57:29.524
Yes.

01:57:29.694 --> 01:57:32.354
And it was already on the internet back in like 1999.

01:57:32.694 --> 01:57:33.265
Holy shit.

01:57:33.435 --> 01:57:34.555
Have you looked at it lately?

01:57:34.704 --> 01:57:35.524
No, I haven't.

01:57:35.524 --> 01:57:37.515
I haven't like tried to look for it again.

01:57:37.784 --> 01:57:37.944
Wow.

01:57:37.994 --> 01:57:41.255
But he had like my, my sister's daughter.

01:57:41.564 --> 01:57:50.755
On the genealogy, like within three, like within three months after she was born, she was born and they had me and my dad and all this thing.

01:57:50.755 --> 01:58:01.345
And, and, and so we were like, there was this dude, like 1561, I think it was when this dude like was born and it had like every descendant of him.

01:58:01.914 --> 01:58:07.305
Like, and that was all from, from his town in Europe, in Netherlands.

01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:14.289
Like everybody that descended from this guy and it was like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people since 1561.

01:58:14.291 --> 01:58:18.350
And that was like, we're one eighth Netherlands.

01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:19.970
Was it Danish?

01:58:20.029 --> 01:58:20.640
Was it Dutch?

01:58:20.930 --> 01:58:21.720
I don't even know what they are.

01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:23.319
I think they've been changing all the time.

01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:31.965
So here's the thing in, in Spanish, it gets confusing for us because Dutch, like Dutchland or Dutch, we call it was Holland.

01:58:31.975 --> 01:58:33.444
Well, Denmark is different.

01:58:33.505 --> 01:58:33.944
Holland.

01:58:33.954 --> 01:58:34.545
Maybe they're Holland.

01:58:34.574 --> 01:58:37.034
I think Holland doesn't exist anymore.

01:58:37.395 --> 01:58:38.515
I think it's the Netherlands.

01:58:38.564 --> 01:58:39.354
I think it's one of those.

01:58:39.375 --> 01:58:40.215
Maybe it is.

01:58:40.675 --> 01:58:41.104
I don't even know.

01:58:41.104 --> 01:58:41.965
I think it might be Holland.

01:58:41.984 --> 01:58:45.095
I think it might be that, that, that place with the windmills and shit.

01:58:45.104 --> 01:58:47.614
Isn't it kind of like in the UK?

01:58:47.654 --> 01:58:49.664
I don't even know.

01:58:49.954 --> 01:58:53.645
A couple of them, they call themselves one thing and then a couple of other ones.

01:58:53.645 --> 01:58:56.774
I remember when I was a kid back in the nineties and the.

01:58:56.930 --> 01:58:58.189
FIFA World Cup would play.

01:58:58.239 --> 01:59:01.029
Holland would be wearing orange and they were so good.

01:59:01.069 --> 01:59:04.090
Orlando, but I don't think Holland as a country exists anymore.

01:59:04.310 --> 01:59:08.979
I think now the Netherlands, there is like a, a, a group of countries that used to be different ones.

01:59:09.270 --> 01:59:11.800
I think we all need to take some geography on Wikipedia.

01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:17.699
Although I don't even know if I trust Wikipedia telling me what actually happened.

01:59:17.699 --> 01:59:18.880
Anyway, going back home.

01:59:19.100 --> 01:59:21.289
So that was one of my first really experienced.

01:59:21.340 --> 01:59:21.460
Yeah.

01:59:21.460 --> 01:59:22.800
I'm one eighth that.

01:59:23.050 --> 01:59:24.689
And, um, one eighth.

01:59:26.095 --> 01:59:37.625
Greek immigrant, adoptee through Lutheran social services, like my, my grandma's dad was a Dimitri and, and was adopted.

01:59:37.635 --> 01:59:39.109
He was like, like, Greece was, was adopted.

01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:41.010
A shit show, apparently, at some point in time.

01:59:41.010 --> 01:59:43.819
I think at some point, they, they had He got, like, adopted as a refugee.

01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:47.271
I think they had, like, a war going on, and they were, had a lot of kids that had to be pushed.

01:59:47.271 --> 01:59:50.180
And some people have said that he's, like, more, like, Lithuanian or something.

01:59:50.189 --> 01:59:52.689
The, the, the demetri is not necessarily Greek.

01:59:52.689 --> 01:59:58.590
But my dad has black hair and blue eyes, which is really pretty unusual for humans.

01:59:58.590 --> 01:59:59.680
Black hair and blue eyes?

01:59:59.680 --> 02:00:00.649
Black hair, blue eyes.

02:00:00.810 --> 02:00:01.250
Yeah, yeah.

02:00:01.369 --> 02:00:03.000
Oh, I love that combination.

02:00:03.329 --> 02:00:03.539
Yeah.

02:00:03.539 --> 02:00:04.550
It's like Liv Tyler.

02:00:04.699 --> 02:00:06.170
And my mom has blonde hair, green eyes.

02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:13.097
Which is also a very unusual combination, and we're all brown hair, blue green eyes, which is super boring.

02:00:13.097 --> 02:00:13.909
Which is super boring.

02:00:14.149 --> 02:00:14.869
Everybody's got that.

02:00:14.920 --> 02:00:15.380
Yeah, all of us.

02:00:15.850 --> 02:00:16.250
All four of us.

02:00:16.649 --> 02:00:19.270
So none of you have the black hair, like the contrast?

02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:20.199
No, no.

02:00:20.520 --> 02:00:20.989
Damn.

02:00:21.170 --> 02:00:21.539
Yeah.

02:00:21.930 --> 02:00:24.039
Maybe the kids, don't they skip a generation, don't they say?

02:00:24.090 --> 02:00:24.619
Maybe.

02:00:25.390 --> 02:00:34.960
Kurt, I was gonna tell you, sorry, now that you're mentioning the thing with Greek, I think, uh, if I'm not mistaken, what was the name of the husband of Queen Elizabeth, um?

02:00:36.805 --> 02:00:37.255
In England?

02:00:37.364 --> 02:00:38.225
Yes, yes, yes.

02:00:38.265 --> 02:00:40.345
Oh, King, um, Philip?

02:00:40.744 --> 02:00:41.204
Philip.

02:00:41.454 --> 02:00:44.375
Philip was actually, he was Greece.

02:00:44.444 --> 02:00:45.055
Oh, is that right?

02:00:45.055 --> 02:00:50.074
Like, he was Greek from, but he was also Because the Greeks are the, almost the only people that have black hair, blue eyes.

02:00:50.515 --> 02:00:54.234
And I think he was kind of that, from that conflict or something that we were saying.

02:00:54.574 --> 02:00:58.993
I think part of their kids had to be blah, blah, blah, and they had to give up nationality.

02:00:58.993 --> 02:01:00.765
Because Italians have a little bit of that too.

02:01:00.914 --> 02:01:02.204
Maybe a little bit, yeah, for sure.

02:01:02.875 --> 02:01:05.734
There's also Italian girls that are like, more black hair.

02:01:05.824 --> 02:01:07.215
But they usually have brown eyes.

02:01:07.274 --> 02:01:08.574
They usually have more brown eyes.

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Usually the black hair comes with brown eyes in that setting.

02:01:10.404 --> 02:01:13.444
I don't know where the black hair blue eyes come from, honestly.

02:01:13.524 --> 02:01:13.795
I don't know.

02:01:13.795 --> 02:01:16.234
It's probably from Istanbul, Constantinople.

02:01:17.284 --> 02:01:17.354
Constantinople?

02:01:18.984 --> 02:01:24.314
Anyway, um, so, I feel like we've gone long already, so.

02:01:24.345 --> 02:01:24.625
Oh, yeah.

02:01:24.685 --> 02:01:26.265
Uh, we're gonna head into the final episode.

02:01:26.595 --> 02:01:29.444
We always talk about faith family and politics.

02:01:29.774 --> 02:01:34.175
We've already jumped into faith a little bit But like where have you guys come?

02:01:34.456 --> 02:02:00.885
I know kind of where you've come from is like this Catholic school wasn't that great But like where have you gone to like you're you're full of love and energy and spirituality and shamanism and mushrooms Yeah, I guess It's one of us has its own, uh, upbringing and that aspect and philosophy of life, uh, that kind of, we share a big portion of it.

02:02:00.885 --> 02:02:06.225
And I guess that's allows us to be, and it allows you to also co exist, not be exist the same.

02:02:06.295 --> 02:02:06.715
Yeah.

02:02:06.734 --> 02:02:08.244
I mean, I think differences.

02:02:08.255 --> 02:02:08.494
Yeah.

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Think about that.

02:02:09.354 --> 02:02:12.324
We spend all the time together.

02:02:12.324 --> 02:02:16.385
We're not like a typical married couple that they see three hours at night.

02:02:16.385 --> 02:02:16.484
Yeah.

02:02:16.484 --> 02:02:18.064
I was thinking to myself earlier, like.

02:02:18.954 --> 02:02:28.020
When you're annoyed with him, or vice versa, and you're doing an event At that time, you need to be very professional.

02:02:30.250 --> 02:02:31.159
I'm sure it's happened.

02:02:31.189 --> 02:02:33.779
Our marriage carries everywhere that we go.

02:02:33.989 --> 02:02:38.880
So yeah, but I think, so the good thing about, it makes you stronger too.

02:02:38.880 --> 02:02:49.090
And the good thing about us Kurt is that before we were partners in business, I mean, sorry, partners in life, we were actually partners in business without being in a relationship.

02:02:49.734 --> 02:02:50.755
we bumped heads.

02:02:50.864 --> 02:02:52.885
But you were so sweet on her the whole time.

02:02:52.886 --> 02:02:54.885
No, no, no, no, no.

02:02:54.885 --> 02:02:55.574
No?

02:02:55.595 --> 02:02:56.715
No, no.

02:02:57.225 --> 02:02:57.654
Oh, OK.

02:02:58.324 --> 02:03:00.274
I was sweeter than the guys he was dating.

02:03:00.275 --> 02:03:00.720
Yes.

02:03:00.720 --> 02:03:02.055
Yes, definitely yes.

02:03:02.055 --> 02:03:12.944
But work related, we had our fights because he was on a part of the team that would have to push for things, and on my side, I would be receiving the pressure.

02:03:13.055 --> 02:03:13.215
Right.

02:03:13.685 --> 02:03:15.375
So we would be having this.

02:03:15.640 --> 02:03:17.159
Yeah, he's asking you for more.

02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:18.539
You're like, I'm giving you all I got.

02:03:18.539 --> 02:03:19.779
They're asking me for more.

02:03:19.819 --> 02:03:20.699
I'm asking for more.

02:03:21.109 --> 02:03:21.470
Exactly.

02:03:21.510 --> 02:03:22.970
So I was, I was, I was always trying.

02:03:23.119 --> 02:03:26.134
Or even during your work life with the investors and things like that.

02:03:26.134 --> 02:03:26.765
Yeah, of course.

02:03:26.765 --> 02:03:32.869
I was constantly, so they had like a house on the beach where we'll use it to bring the investors, sell the whole place, da da da.

02:03:34.189 --> 02:03:36.329
was part of the big, the big chunk of managing it.

02:03:36.329 --> 02:03:39.765
So I will always have to come and remind that this was not a vacation.

02:03:39.765 --> 02:03:42.329
You're like, your cucumbers were a little soggy last time, Juli.

02:03:42.369 --> 02:03:45.979
Dude, I would not take that professionally by any means.

02:03:45.979 --> 02:03:48.380
I would take it personally all the way, all the way.

02:03:48.380 --> 02:03:48.890
Oh yeah.

02:03:48.930 --> 02:03:49.579
No, no, no.

02:03:49.579 --> 02:03:50.060
It was horrible.

02:03:50.380 --> 02:04:01.909
Part of, part of this, the whole relationship that we've had before and how we've been growing together, it has forced us to, to just kind getting my corny side to throw roots beyond.

02:04:02.210 --> 02:04:05.199
the usual relationship roots that most people know.

02:04:05.569 --> 02:04:05.729
Okay.

02:04:05.779 --> 02:04:11.719
Because we, we, If I'm thinking it, Juli is already thinking it.

02:04:11.719 --> 02:04:14.854
If he's thinking it, I already know what he's fucking thinking.

02:04:14.854 --> 02:04:15.574
It sucks.

02:04:15.925 --> 02:04:17.704
Well, it's clear that you're way smarter than he is.

02:04:17.715 --> 02:04:18.234
Yeah, of course.

02:04:18.234 --> 02:04:18.895
Clearly, obviously.

02:04:18.895 --> 02:04:21.085
Sorry, I'm just playing.

02:04:21.614 --> 02:04:24.614
Until we get to the point of, uh, Here, imagine this.

02:04:25.284 --> 02:04:26.925
Right, actually make this happen.

02:04:27.404 --> 02:04:29.414
Uh, not in the kitchen.

02:04:29.704 --> 02:04:30.702
Not in the kitchen, exactly.

02:04:30.702 --> 02:04:34.064
Part of the book, you'll be surprised how much I cook for her.

02:04:35.345 --> 02:04:35.805
I don't know.

02:04:35.805 --> 02:04:36.774
I wouldn't be surprised.

02:04:36.784 --> 02:04:39.354
You'll be surprised how much he cooks in general.

02:04:39.354 --> 02:04:43.664
It's so funny how people think that because I went to culinary school, I'm the one that leads the events.

02:04:43.715 --> 02:04:46.085
No people Juan cooks for you.

02:04:46.154 --> 02:04:49.715
85 percent of the meals that we make because I'm more on the prep side.

02:04:49.715 --> 02:04:53.585
So I chop and do a lot of sauces, but Juan is the guy that is your design.

02:04:53.675 --> 02:04:54.935
It's your plan, exactly.

02:04:54.944 --> 02:04:55.845
But he's the one that is.

02:04:56.029 --> 02:04:57.010
He's flipping the chicken.

02:04:57.029 --> 02:04:57.829
He's your labor.

02:04:57.831 --> 02:05:00.060
He's your, he's your pack mule.

02:05:00.109 --> 02:05:03.359
He's the guy that is giving the flavor to the meals a lot of the time.

02:05:03.390 --> 02:05:04.130
But I mean, a lot of this.

02:05:04.130 --> 02:05:07.659
And in the house, I, I cook sandwiches and cereal bowls.

02:05:08.939 --> 02:05:10.159
He makes everything else.

02:05:10.819 --> 02:05:12.399
I literally don't do anything else.

02:05:12.880 --> 02:05:13.239
It's fun.

02:05:13.240 --> 02:05:13.828
It's fun.

02:05:13.828 --> 02:05:15.300
You have lots of leftovers.

02:05:15.300 --> 02:05:15.649
We do.

02:05:15.710 --> 02:05:17.006
I warm leftovers really well.

02:05:17.006 --> 02:05:20.569
Which I put, which I put together, otherwise we get bread for dinner on the table.

02:05:20.569 --> 02:05:20.948
Sandwiches.

02:05:20.948 --> 02:05:21.704
And sandwiches.

02:05:21.704 --> 02:05:22.462
And sandwiches.

02:05:22.462 --> 02:05:23.220
And sandwiches.

02:05:23.220 --> 02:05:23.978
And sandwiches.

02:05:23.978 --> 02:05:24.734
And sandwiches.

02:05:26.654 --> 02:05:28.824
Like, where, where have you landed in a faith?

02:05:29.244 --> 02:05:30.064
Ah, okay.

02:05:30.064 --> 02:05:30.524
I'm sorry.

02:05:30.784 --> 02:05:51.654
So all this was taking us that, um, we're, we're kind of, we're in a point where if you kind of, uh, jump into different aspects of life in general, um, let's say if you hold a cube and you only see it in one angle, You think it's a flat wall.

02:05:51.715 --> 02:05:52.234
Sure.

02:05:52.305 --> 02:06:01.515
As soon as you start twisting that flat wall, or you look into different angles, you can see the form of the reality of what you're looking at, right?

02:06:01.524 --> 02:06:02.104
I think that's fair.

02:06:02.145 --> 02:06:11.564
So, if you can do that in literally everything in nature, and you can actually, like, produce For what I call in myself or what I see.

02:06:11.564 --> 02:06:12.345
A more holistic.

02:06:12.404 --> 02:06:15.095
A more holistic or a more reality of reality.

02:06:15.414 --> 02:06:19.994
So if you can only see everything through one lens, you're only going to see that lens forever.

02:06:20.145 --> 02:06:22.524
But if you get out and you see different angles, you're so.

02:06:22.555 --> 02:06:27.345
Yeah, if you only come at it from a Catholic school kid's perspective.

02:06:28.135 --> 02:06:29.274
Or a scientific point of view as well.

02:06:29.284 --> 02:06:30.755
Or even only scientific.

02:06:30.755 --> 02:06:31.164
Of course.

02:06:31.164 --> 02:06:31.255
Yes.

02:06:31.545 --> 02:06:32.305
It's very limited.

02:06:32.305 --> 02:06:33.043
It's very limited.

02:06:33.043 --> 02:06:34.274
So I've, I've, I've, I've.

02:06:34.645 --> 02:06:36.024
I've been Or whatever.

02:06:36.225 --> 02:06:36.805
Exactly.

02:06:37.154 --> 02:06:44.555
So I've been lucky enough that I was raised kind of like in a Catholic environment, but not on a land.

02:06:45.074 --> 02:06:47.215
So free, watching nature a lot.

02:06:47.295 --> 02:06:49.795
So mimicking nature was very important and understanding that.

02:06:50.074 --> 02:06:51.314
Animals, contact, all that.

02:06:51.335 --> 02:06:51.885
Empathy.

02:06:52.064 --> 02:06:53.725
Crazy empathy with, with nature.

02:06:54.295 --> 02:06:58.194
And then, uh, Sorry about my raccoon killing stories, but that is a rhythm.

02:06:58.625 --> 02:06:59.385
No, no, it's so good.

02:06:59.385 --> 02:07:00.725
There's plenty of them.

02:07:00.725 --> 02:07:09.904
And then, uh, so, so, and then we had one of my best friends, her mom was a Christian and she, And then the house that we had, she used to have a Christian, not a Catholic.

02:07:09.954 --> 02:07:10.225
Yeah.

02:07:10.225 --> 02:07:10.645
Christian.

02:07:10.645 --> 02:07:15.645
So she will, uh, she will have like her Christian things that they're like singing and all that.

02:07:15.645 --> 02:07:20.604
And then my other best friend, he's Jew.

02:07:21.095 --> 02:07:25.085
Uh, so, and then Jewish, I think, or Jewish.

02:07:25.095 --> 02:07:25.524
Sorry.

02:07:25.534 --> 02:07:30.774
If I, uh, you know, you step on an X.

02:07:30.775 --> 02:07:31.550
Just kidding.

02:07:31.550 --> 02:07:33.097
I hope you're listening.

02:07:33.097 --> 02:07:34.074
I hope you're listening.

02:07:34.074 --> 02:07:34.595
And I love you.

02:07:34.604 --> 02:07:36.324
I give him shit like they give me shit.

02:07:36.734 --> 02:07:39.244
I, there's no boundaries on the cultural aspect.

02:07:39.265 --> 02:07:44.524
If you look for a picture of, of a Jewish person in the dictionary, Uri would be in the dictionary.

02:07:44.564 --> 02:07:45.555
Like this guy.

02:07:45.755 --> 02:07:46.305
What's up Uri?

02:07:47.024 --> 02:07:49.364
But yeah, Hey Uri, love you man, love you man.

02:07:49.364 --> 02:07:49.835
I hope you listen.

02:07:50.215 --> 02:07:51.284
Oh yeah, he will.

02:07:51.364 --> 02:07:54.324
Uh, but, uh, so I grew up in all these environments.

02:07:54.609 --> 02:07:56.420
And I was never forced to be one of them.

02:07:56.850 --> 02:07:58.760
My dad's very spiritual in that aspect.

02:07:58.859 --> 02:08:01.279
Uh, and, and, and I was able to just kind of.

02:08:02.395 --> 02:08:19.954
Start taking all that in and just taking and I grew up and I tried Catholicism for eight years because I was kind of forced But still I was Yeah, I kid I still wanted to try yeah, because kindness kindness has always been an important part part of my life Do you know that's one of our values by the way?

02:08:20.015 --> 02:08:21.524
Huh local think tank.

02:08:21.534 --> 02:08:29.140
We have six values Be smart, be kind, be true, be local, be the change, be you.

02:08:30.039 --> 02:08:30.789
That's a beautiful.

02:08:32.340 --> 02:08:34.069
It's beautiful and it comes down to that.

02:08:34.100 --> 02:08:40.079
So honestly, it's spiritualism, all so it's just been all this thing.

02:08:40.079 --> 02:08:44.199
So once once you have all those cards in the table, you start trying to figure it out.

02:08:44.210 --> 02:08:46.529
What's what's a common denominator amongst all of them?

02:08:46.539 --> 02:08:46.829
Yeah.

02:08:47.310 --> 02:08:49.119
And that must be the true thing.

02:08:49.149 --> 02:08:59.010
And if it's something that it's in you naturally, where you're, you're naturally kind, you're naturally this, uh, then it becomes easier for me to try to be that person.

02:08:59.050 --> 02:09:12.140
Where I deviate from a lot of Christians and I've apologized for breaking in, but I think God can, like, if there's somebody that doesn't say Jesus is Lord, and this is my person.

02:09:12.369 --> 02:09:17.800
Person or whatever, but they act with kindness and generosity.

02:09:18.250 --> 02:09:20.329
Like I think God's the decider.

02:09:20.899 --> 02:09:22.920
Like it's not whatever we read about.

02:09:22.921 --> 02:09:25.270
It's not for me.

02:09:25.279 --> 02:09:29.869
It's not who you follow, but there is a, there is a higher power than the decider you believe in.

02:09:29.869 --> 02:09:39.979
And like a later after life, you believe in probably universal connections in some capacity, somebody other than me or We are not, we are not.

02:09:39.979 --> 02:09:40.630
The Pope is the decider.

02:09:41.149 --> 02:09:43.427
The Pope's definitely not the decider.

02:09:43.427 --> 02:09:52.050
He's kind of a Pope's bag, actually, your current Pope is a total douche, douche canoe, sorry.

02:09:52.050 --> 02:09:57.840
For those Catholics that are really pissed off, like, I'll take all the fire for you guys, all that, you don't have to take it.

02:09:57.909 --> 02:10:11.164
Believe it or not, we've had conversations, we've had the opportunity to be sitting down with, people that are very Catholic and us not being very Catholic and exposing the things that we believe are wrong with the organization.

02:10:11.395 --> 02:10:12.175
Not the people.

02:10:12.194 --> 02:10:14.104
Not the bullshit that nobody talks about.

02:10:14.505 --> 02:10:15.765
There's amazing Catholics.

02:10:15.835 --> 02:10:17.795
I've met so many beautiful Catholics.

02:10:17.885 --> 02:10:19.274
Including members of my family.

02:10:19.284 --> 02:10:23.395
Like I, the values within the religion.

02:10:23.710 --> 02:10:50.560
While they teach you how to be as a person, they're beautiful, they're, they're worth absorbing, totally, totally, but if you, but if you justify the shitty things that you do in order to blah, blah, blah, atrocities, monstrosities have been made in the name of, so that's where we part ways, yeah, that's where I don't, I don't, I don't support it because Because of what they've done back and forward, it hasn't, it hasn't been one time.

02:10:50.739 --> 02:10:51.840
It's a repetitive thing.

02:10:51.869 --> 02:10:56.305
And I think instead of Uh, kick, uh, kicking the can forward.

02:10:56.625 --> 02:10:59.864
I think it's time for like you address the root cause.

02:10:59.864 --> 02:11:00.104
Yeah.

02:11:00.104 --> 02:11:00.824
The reality of it.

02:11:01.034 --> 02:11:02.685
No, but, but the situation.

02:11:02.774 --> 02:11:07.805
But there's, there's things, uh, outside of our, outside of our control in that aspect.

02:11:07.805 --> 02:11:09.029
I mean, humans, well, there's so much wealth.

02:11:09.329 --> 02:11:10.510
Humans, of course, humans.

02:11:11.279 --> 02:11:12.725
Let's start, let's start with that.

02:11:12.725 --> 02:11:14.989
I, I believe that has got like, and, and they're like.

02:11:15.444 --> 02:11:19.005
Oh, poverty right over so poor.

02:11:19.095 --> 02:11:21.140
And you're like, and you're like, are you, we don't even know.

02:11:21.149 --> 02:11:25.154
We've like a thousand unlimited price value items that we could sell.

02:11:25.154 --> 02:11:29.414
Imagine the wealth that they, they could solve the world.

02:11:29.864 --> 02:11:30.435
Poverty.

02:11:30.435 --> 02:11:31.064
Just hunger.

02:11:31.395 --> 02:11:31.814
Kindo.

02:11:31.814 --> 02:11:33.734
I don't think, well, you can't solve, mean what?

02:11:34.340 --> 02:11:35.899
I mean, can't, could solve it.

02:11:36.159 --> 02:11:37.180
But they could do a lot.

02:11:37.180 --> 02:11:37.420
Totally.

02:11:37.659 --> 02:11:38.564
I don't think No, no.

02:11:38.564 --> 02:11:39.854
It's, it's, I, yeah, you can.

02:11:40.034 --> 02:11:41.234
I don't think you can ever.

02:11:41.739 --> 02:11:43.239
But who should have that shit instead?

02:11:43.239 --> 02:11:44.119
No, of course, of course.

02:11:44.121 --> 02:11:47.430
You give it to someone else and they're gonna do, they're gonna put some in their pockets.

02:11:47.430 --> 02:11:50.859
Elon Musk put a special museum together and charge 50 bucks a person.

02:11:51.569 --> 02:11:53.579
He's becoming the biggest disappointment in the world.

02:11:53.609 --> 02:11:59.760
I'm grateful for his technology, but his, his whole, whatever he's doing is like, it's corrupting.

02:11:59.770 --> 02:12:00.850
That's where I was trying to go.

02:12:01.904 --> 02:12:06.255
So humans, humans can only handle so much power corrupts people.

02:12:06.295 --> 02:12:06.574
Yeah.

02:12:06.574 --> 02:12:12.944
Well, the church and religion, there's a reason why there's only, that's why I'm a libertarian.

02:12:14.095 --> 02:12:15.545
That's why we are government.

02:12:15.664 --> 02:12:17.984
We are basically there in the same place.

02:12:17.994 --> 02:12:21.345
Like if you, it's hard to choose one or the other.

02:12:21.345 --> 02:12:21.645
Always.

02:12:21.744 --> 02:12:24.534
I feel like we're always at the center of the situation.

02:12:24.534 --> 02:12:25.444
Whatever you ask.

02:12:25.484 --> 02:12:34.305
We choose to stay more at the center is less conflictive to say, I think, I think we have, like for us, we'd love to concentrate in what we have in common.

02:12:34.715 --> 02:12:37.854
And not so much into our ideologies.

02:12:37.965 --> 02:12:40.925
Our ideologies has gotten into trouble even in our business.

02:12:41.074 --> 02:12:41.534
Oh dude.

02:12:41.744 --> 02:12:44.635
So Like, you've probably seen me in that space too.

02:12:44.645 --> 02:12:46.704
Like, it's, um It's hard.

02:12:46.744 --> 02:12:47.295
Yeah.

02:12:47.335 --> 02:12:49.725
And you sacrifice Especially in today's crazy ass world.

02:12:49.954 --> 02:12:50.265
Yes.

02:12:50.324 --> 02:12:54.385
Because Or you just don't talk about it, but then They do not a real person either.

02:12:54.454 --> 02:12:54.854
Yeah.

02:12:54.904 --> 02:13:06.574
And then at the end too, for example, when it comes to politics, the complicated thing about politics is that we choose to stay at the center as much as we can, but then eventually, like Juan always says, you need to pick a side too.

02:13:06.784 --> 02:13:06.994
Yeah.

02:13:07.675 --> 02:13:09.965
If a war comes to your door, you need to choose.

02:13:10.164 --> 02:13:10.255
No.

02:13:10.255 --> 02:13:13.675
And at the end of making a decision too, you are picking a side.

02:13:13.675 --> 02:13:15.314
You need to give that vote to someone.

02:13:15.314 --> 02:13:20.314
You cannot say they are center because you're doing shit because you're neither helping nor, you know.

02:13:20.345 --> 02:13:20.805
Yeah.

02:13:20.805 --> 02:13:20.960
Yeah.

02:13:20.961 --> 02:13:32.635
Like, if you're just, if you just live in, we come from, um, societies that are being more than more than the United States.

02:13:33.145 --> 02:13:34.454
Yeah, in life, sure.

02:13:34.494 --> 02:13:37.654
That has lived more, not necessarily like your experience in Columbia.

02:13:37.654 --> 02:13:42.296
Like that was exactly what, but in us, in us countries, but as countries, they're older.

02:13:42.296 --> 02:13:49.425
So what history is older than here, Europeans came eradicated, created new things in our countries.

02:13:49.755 --> 02:14:14.234
Uh, things are, are a little bit more advanced when it comes to, to all that aspect of cultural social, like the whole, the whole idea of the United States, social struggle much until like the whole this, this black freedom thing in the fifties and whatever, but this thing that we're struggling all of us right now with the division, with people in power, trying to divide and control.

02:14:14.494 --> 02:14:16.864
Through media and whatever sides, right?

02:14:16.904 --> 02:14:20.954
That's like, it's orange man bad or it's, I gotta say America, United States.

02:14:21.324 --> 02:14:23.064
That's how the world is.

02:14:23.545 --> 02:14:24.515
Has been that way for a while.

02:14:24.694 --> 02:14:27.045
But the United States has been in a bubble.

02:14:28.074 --> 02:14:32.774
That is what we fight in our countries every fucking election.

02:14:33.465 --> 02:14:35.664
That, what you're fighting right now.

02:14:35.664 --> 02:14:42.484
Somebody trying to be Yeah, it's always somebody I saw some mayor in Mexico got his head cut off Of course, all that stuff.

02:14:42.505 --> 02:14:47.395
Like five days into his term because they go into a position of the, of the guy with the bigger fish.

02:14:47.545 --> 02:14:50.545
So that's what, that's what we see happening here.

02:14:50.545 --> 02:14:55.600
There's one guy who wants to be an authoritarian, and then the other one, the other half of the country, he against Trump.

02:14:55.814 --> 02:14:56.595
So here's the thing.

02:14:56.595 --> 02:14:56.744
Yes.

02:14:57.314 --> 02:15:06.255
Yeah, of course we see the red flags because you guys haven't lived situations that, so we're shifting the politics just for everybody's, uh, we're definitely not Trump supporters by any means.

02:15:06.345 --> 02:15:06.765
Okay.

02:15:06.765 --> 02:15:08.654
I, I, for me, like I said, I judge by the kindness.

02:15:08.715 --> 02:15:09.465
So why do you support.

02:15:09.725 --> 02:15:12.215
Oh, so because she's kind is why you like Kamala?

02:15:12.284 --> 02:15:18.515
No, I think at this point I'm supporting, uh, I guess the lesser of two evils.

02:15:18.574 --> 02:15:19.024
Yeah, yeah.

02:15:19.024 --> 02:15:22.185
Because I, one of them wants to build a new thing.

02:15:22.595 --> 02:15:24.765
The other one wants to continue what we have built.

02:15:24.814 --> 02:15:25.635
That's how I see it.

02:15:25.935 --> 02:15:26.215
Okay.

02:15:26.244 --> 02:15:28.534
I like what, what the United States has.

02:15:28.604 --> 02:15:32.225
I, that's why part of why I love here, it's the camaraderie.

02:15:32.255 --> 02:15:32.864
I love that.

02:15:33.060 --> 02:15:34.300
We can all speak our mind.

02:15:34.329 --> 02:15:43.779
I love the fact that in the United States, people really go to the root of the problem and fix it instead of avoiding it because you're afraid of telling your boss that it's wrong.

02:15:44.199 --> 02:15:48.489
I like that mentality is what keeps this country making it fucking beautiful.

02:15:48.880 --> 02:15:53.979
But if we get out into the yes man mentality, we're going to go down the shed like everybody else.

02:15:54.039 --> 02:15:57.000
So you think that's why Trump is surrounded by his yes men?

02:15:57.000 --> 02:15:59.060
I, I, that's, that's what I perceive.

02:15:59.369 --> 02:16:04.930
Okay, I'm never gonna know necessarily but that's what I perceive for what I see in social media and everything.

02:16:04.949 --> 02:16:05.250
Yeah.

02:16:05.250 --> 02:16:21.760
Yeah Yeah, if I look if I that's what I perceive to what if I look into the media if I disagree I just don't think that like when he goes up and talk I just don't think that we live in a country that is Like a shithole.

02:16:22.020 --> 02:16:50.250
I just don't think that I think we live in a country that is beautiful and he says that too much Maybe he speaks from a reality that he lives that he lives but what he speaks We do not see we do not see the world like he sees it He's trying to divide to separate to fear The things that the bite us and make us different instead of the things that I don't, I don't see the love speak of love, the speak of union, the speak of, uh, intelligent of hope.

02:16:50.969 --> 02:16:54.149
So can I ask a question about Kamala's campaign?

02:16:54.150 --> 02:17:05.219
I'm I'm I'm skeptical, I'll say, and I'm not a Trump fan, I haven't, I voted for Kanye last time and I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016, so.

02:17:05.229 --> 02:17:05.239
Kanye?

02:17:05.250 --> 02:17:06.037
I think Kanye West.

02:17:06.037 --> 02:17:08.209
Oh yeah, Kanye West, Kanye West last time.

02:17:08.209 --> 02:17:09.479
Yeah, I did the Gary Johnson.

02:17:09.510 --> 02:17:09.979
Yeah, yeah.

02:17:10.040 --> 02:17:12.770
And I did a Pete Buttigieg when they were Fair.

02:17:13.290 --> 02:17:26.340
Um, and so I'm not a fan, but I'm also not a fan of the fact that Like they kinda ran this dementia dude, when they knew he was dementia dude, got him the primary and then swapped him out without a vote.

02:17:26.930 --> 02:17:31.319
Like that whole thing is not democratic and that just like tweaks me out a little bit.

02:17:31.360 --> 02:17:40.715
Like when people talk about deep state and government control and like, I don't know who Kamala's puppet masters are, but I know she has lots of them, probably.

02:17:41.114 --> 02:17:42.694
I think they all do, probably, no?

02:17:42.704 --> 02:17:48.944
Well maybe, I don't know, I don't feel like Trump has puppet masters, otherwise they would have tied him down a little more.

02:17:49.284 --> 02:17:56.444
Ah, I just, for me it's hard to, to, to follow somebody that when he gets up on stage says that you have to inject yourself with bleach.

02:17:57.370 --> 02:18:07.239
In order to get Covid off, I just, I think there should be some sort of a a point that Well, but I wanna go back to the question that I asked, like that wasn't concerning to you guys having been through a bunch of corruption.

02:18:07.385 --> 02:18:07.665
Yeah.

02:18:07.665 --> 02:18:10.450
I wish elections, I agree that I wish things like that there was.

02:18:11.260 --> 02:18:15.729
They didn't even at least have a straw poll at the, at the convention to nominate.

02:18:15.729 --> 02:18:20.750
They just like, okay, Joe's out, Kamala's in, we've all agreed, but nobody voted.

02:18:21.139 --> 02:18:25.270
Nobody, no one person voted for Kamala Harris to be the presidential nominee.

02:18:25.270 --> 02:18:26.569
It was like a finger, basically.

02:18:26.790 --> 02:18:29.299
Some big finger, like just put her in there.

02:18:29.774 --> 02:18:35.594
And, like, and they haven't even taken Joe out of the presidency because he's clearly incompetent to be the president, probably.

02:18:36.565 --> 02:18:41.135
If he wasn't, then he wouldn't be competent to not run, and so it's like, which one?

02:18:41.145 --> 02:18:48.739
I definitely think that it's It's, I just, I think answering that question, it, it just, it takes you to a corner as well.

02:18:49.139 --> 02:18:54.040
I think the problem that we have to address for me is not necessarily more cultural.

02:18:54.270 --> 02:18:55.260
It's it's yeah.

02:18:55.260 --> 02:18:59.899
It's like, it's like we cannot let our leaders be so old when they get there.

02:19:00.090 --> 02:19:01.780
I am sorry to say it, but that's be what?

02:19:01.899 --> 02:19:02.780
So old.

02:19:03.110 --> 02:19:07.840
Oh, like once you're past 65 or 70, you should not be allowed to be president.

02:19:08.565 --> 02:19:10.985
Like, Biden could have had, well, but then they shouldn't have run Biden.

02:19:11.024 --> 02:19:11.215
I agree.

02:19:11.655 --> 02:19:12.514
I agree on that.

02:19:12.735 --> 02:19:13.454
But I agree.

02:19:13.495 --> 02:19:14.034
I agree.

02:19:14.055 --> 02:19:16.944
But, but the other options were worst.

02:19:17.004 --> 02:19:22.215
Like, the thing is that I feel, why do we have such shitty fucking candidates for our elections?

02:19:22.485 --> 02:19:27.434
I feel like in the past, only powerful, only power, power, hunger people want to be in those positions.

02:19:27.454 --> 02:19:30.184
In the past two elections, there really hasn't been.

02:19:30.430 --> 02:19:31.790
Like, for me, I can't vote.

02:19:31.850 --> 02:19:32.659
Let's put it out there.

02:19:32.659 --> 02:19:33.299
I can't vote.

02:19:33.420 --> 02:19:40.129
I, I, I'm a, I'm a resident, so I'm not a, a citizen, so Juan is the one that speaks for the both of us in the house.

02:19:40.590 --> 02:19:47.495
But, uh, You can probably vote if you want to, just, uh, just register, you'll be fine.

02:19:47.495 --> 02:19:50.385
It's just because it's not legal.

02:19:50.385 --> 02:20:01.454
There's a lot of information that is hard even for me to understand when it comes to the, like, I see the ballots and one is like researching shit because there's a lot of I want to make sure that there's kind people out there that are thoughtful.

02:20:01.454 --> 02:20:02.174
So here's the thing.

02:20:02.215 --> 02:20:10.495
What I, what I feel is like in the past 10 years that we've been here that you guys have had two presidential elections, I feel like there hasn't been good options.

02:20:10.735 --> 02:20:11.125
No.

02:20:11.145 --> 02:20:14.656
So what you do is that you end up voting for the lesser of both evils.

02:20:14.656 --> 02:20:16.145
That's why I voted for Kanye.

02:20:16.174 --> 02:20:18.325
Like Kanye was the biggest protest vote.

02:20:19.004 --> 02:20:22.465
Like it's, I would love to have a woman president in our country.

02:20:22.625 --> 02:20:23.415
I think that's cool.

02:20:23.795 --> 02:20:25.385
But I didn't want it to be Hillary Clinton.

02:20:25.385 --> 02:20:25.954
I was gonna say.

02:20:25.995 --> 02:20:27.764
I didn't want it to be Hillary fucking Clinton.

02:20:27.774 --> 02:20:28.218
We didn't either.

02:20:28.218 --> 02:20:28.641
Like fuck that.

02:20:28.641 --> 02:20:30.604
And I don't want it to be Kamala either, honestly.

02:20:30.604 --> 02:20:32.143
I want somebody that girls would look up to.

02:20:32.143 --> 02:20:33.924
What would be your, what would be your candidate?

02:20:33.924 --> 02:20:35.174
Yeah, what would be like your ideal candidate?

02:20:35.174 --> 02:20:35.815
For a female?

02:20:35.835 --> 02:20:37.485
Oh, Tulsi Gabbard.

02:20:37.545 --> 02:20:40.934
I would have voted for Tulsi Gabbard as president, for sure.

02:20:40.965 --> 02:20:46.014
She was the Democratic, uh Oh, she was the lady with the, um Yeah, from Hawaii.

02:20:46.094 --> 02:20:46.395
Okay.

02:20:46.465 --> 02:20:55.034
Uh, military service, but, like, she criticized Hillary and she got destroyed politically back in 2016.

02:20:55.034 --> 02:20:55.274
Yeah.

02:20:55.549 --> 02:21:00.709
And she's been, now she's on team Trump because she's scared of team Biden Harris.

02:21:01.469 --> 02:21:05.920
And she's kind of right, because they do have, they're the only ones limiting speech.

02:21:05.920 --> 02:21:08.100
They're the only ones talking about limiting speech.

02:21:08.889 --> 02:21:09.360
They are?

02:21:09.579 --> 02:21:10.059
Oh yeah.

02:21:10.750 --> 02:21:19.440
See, I, this is why I'm talking about politics, the thing is that it also, so it, the climate and the politics changes every freaking day too.

02:21:19.450 --> 02:21:19.610
It's hot.

02:21:19.719 --> 02:21:21.850
So if you're not there every day.

02:21:22.315 --> 02:21:23.454
You don't know what's happening.

02:21:23.635 --> 02:21:24.700
Like, I didn't even know about that.

02:21:24.700 --> 02:21:25.944
It's so papa that you have to keep up with.

02:21:26.004 --> 02:21:26.665
Yeah, it's tiring.

02:21:26.665 --> 02:21:27.264
You're better off.

02:21:27.325 --> 02:21:27.924
You're better off, huh?

02:21:27.924 --> 02:21:28.584
It's exhausting.

02:21:28.584 --> 02:21:29.780
Well, I, I, yeah.

02:21:29.780 --> 02:21:32.034
I mean, I have, yeah, I do my research.

02:21:32.125 --> 02:21:37.315
I vote for what I think the overall, I don't vote for the party or I don't vote for anything.

02:21:37.315 --> 02:21:43.655
I vote to know that, uh, whoever's gonna be in the, in the leadership or the movement or, uh, or the people around.

02:21:43.655 --> 02:21:44.645
Yeah, that person.

02:21:44.795 --> 02:21:46.895
Or you should have their website kind of, I just wanna make sure.

02:21:46.899 --> 02:21:47.459
Read about it, whatever.

02:21:47.524 --> 02:21:51.135
I just wanna make sure that they are.

02:21:51.350 --> 02:21:53.690
Make kindness prevail, just good people.

02:21:53.879 --> 02:21:54.379
That's us.

02:21:54.409 --> 02:21:57.500
Like people that think about that are not egocentric or not.

02:21:57.500 --> 02:21:59.920
I don't know, like, because they're all like, well, that's crazy.

02:21:59.920 --> 02:22:01.040
They're all egocentric.

02:22:01.100 --> 02:22:01.500
I agree.

02:22:01.500 --> 02:22:04.120
He's a narcissist, egomaniac for sure.

02:22:04.129 --> 02:22:04.870
No, I know.

02:22:04.899 --> 02:22:06.510
And that's very, and it's very dangerous.

02:22:06.934 --> 02:22:10.165
Well, for me and or like, that's part of my trust.

02:22:10.165 --> 02:22:16.325
I'm like, he wants to try to do a good job so that he can think of himself as the best president ever.

02:22:16.325 --> 02:22:18.434
I don't know.

02:22:18.485 --> 02:22:19.215
Maybe I'm wrong.

02:22:19.225 --> 02:22:19.764
No, no, no.

02:22:19.764 --> 02:22:22.725
I think, I think he really wants to be the best president ever.

02:22:22.764 --> 02:22:32.995
I think this is a beauty and, and, and, and the edge source of politics, you know, it's uh, talking about politics, it's like, um, passing each other a knife that is very sharp.

02:22:34.040 --> 02:23:02.569
A double edge or whatever, you know, it's, it's something that you, whatever, I believe that whatever it is that you want to, that you believe that you have created your own bubble of reality, uh, you want to try to defend it, or you want to try to make sure that it's the right thing right now with social media and all this kind of stuff, you, you see only very, and I love that analogy and, and like, you don't need to use language like wetbacks.

02:23:02.840 --> 02:23:04.110
You can use anything.

02:23:04.239 --> 02:23:05.129
Anything like that.

02:23:05.139 --> 02:23:10.340
Like you can just be very gentle and intentional with the way that you communicate.

02:23:10.340 --> 02:23:14.790
So if, let's say if Trump was more gentle, maybe it would be more attractive for me.

02:23:14.790 --> 02:23:22.069
So if I see Trump getting up and he's like, uh, all the rape, all the Mexicans are rapists, how do you think I feel?

02:23:22.069 --> 02:23:22.389
I feel threatened.

02:23:22.389 --> 02:23:23.389
They're eating the dogs.

02:23:23.389 --> 02:23:24.229
They're eating the cats.

02:23:24.229 --> 02:23:24.989
Those are the Haitians.

02:23:26.180 --> 02:23:26.940
Not the Mexicans.

02:23:26.940 --> 02:23:27.702
They don't eat cats and dogs.

02:23:27.702 --> 02:23:30.170
I've seen so many like little, little songs coming out.

02:23:30.729 --> 02:23:31.010
That's so funny.

02:23:31.025 --> 02:23:31.352
It's hilarious.

02:23:31.352 --> 02:23:32.504
But it's not funny for them.

02:23:32.725 --> 02:23:33.555
No, you're right.

02:23:33.556 --> 02:23:34.444
And it's not funny for Haitians.

02:23:34.584 --> 02:23:36.325
And it doesn't, it affects business, whatever.

02:23:36.334 --> 02:23:36.364
Right.

02:23:36.375 --> 02:23:43.204
But where I'm going If you're a Haitian grocery store owner in Ohio, you're like, well dude, you're not making my life any easier.

02:23:43.225 --> 02:23:51.584
Like, Kurt, when, when he was in his campaign back in 2015 and he was saying all this awful things about the Mexicans and the immigrants and how they come and they steal our jobs and blah, blah, blah.

02:23:52.065 --> 02:23:56.954
And I mean, this went on throughout his presidential term, right?

02:23:57.194 --> 02:23:59.444
So for example, us, let's, let's say.

02:23:59.819 --> 02:24:08.040
Us as a company, 10 years later, we are immigrants without a doubt because we came to America during Trump's presidency, right?

02:24:08.139 --> 02:24:11.209
We came when he was running the campaign.

02:24:11.809 --> 02:24:20.875
So we established ourselves, we created a company that not only gives us a job, but gives American kids jobs to perform.

02:24:21.145 --> 02:24:25.745
We came here both with education, with college degrees.

02:24:26.125 --> 02:24:28.735
I'm neither a rapist or I'm here to steal your job.

02:24:28.735 --> 02:24:30.075
And we're actually providing.

02:24:30.075 --> 02:24:37.704
So, but the fact is that he's putting us, he's putting us in a bubble, all of us, and there's tears within immigration.

02:24:37.735 --> 02:24:43.125
And I understand what he complained about it too, because there's a lot of the shit that he did say that is true.

02:24:43.135 --> 02:24:52.704
Like what I'm saying is, for example, has Venezuela been emptying their prisons into America through the Empty border, you know, they've gone to Colombia and everywhere around.

02:24:52.715 --> 02:24:56.264
It's not only America But there's there's spreading everywhere because our country.

02:24:56.625 --> 02:24:58.545
Yeah, so you can't take it personally, right?

02:24:58.555 --> 02:24:59.204
You're right.

02:24:59.235 --> 02:25:06.094
That's an interesting notion I mean Mexicans are yeah, Mexico has a lot of Venezuelans and everywhere not that they're crossing here.

02:25:06.204 --> 02:25:08.385
They're staying there Just gotta get the hell out of Venezuela.

02:25:08.475 --> 02:25:13.524
It's just again If you were there you probably be doing the same thing that they are.

02:25:13.524 --> 02:25:27.847
Oh totally You know, and some of them come out of their countries looking for trouble, but some of them are picking up an uber when they're lawyers in Venezuela and driving for eight hours because what they're here for is an opportunity to do better than what they're here for.

02:25:27.847 --> 02:25:28.458
Start a new page.

02:25:28.458 --> 02:25:31.635
Well, and both of you guys had like, those new pages in your life.

02:25:31.636 --> 02:25:32.625
But that's the fucking beauty of it.

02:25:32.625 --> 02:25:33.395
So many times for two.

02:25:33.396 --> 02:25:34.864
Like, we've had it a couple of times.

02:25:34.864 --> 02:25:36.174
But that is the beauty of it.

02:25:36.194 --> 02:25:37.266
That's what feeds the people.

02:25:38.075 --> 02:25:38.924
There is value to that.

02:25:38.925 --> 02:25:44.425
The beauty of the value of opportunity, that is what, like, if you're Hungry people make strong countries.

02:25:44.425 --> 02:25:45.816
Of course! You know, ultimately.

02:25:45.825 --> 02:25:48.316
Every country is going down in, uh, population.

02:25:48.316 --> 02:25:49.716
Not hungry, but like No, no, no.

02:25:49.796 --> 02:25:50.265
Energetic.

02:25:50.476 --> 02:25:51.636
Of course, hungry for life.

02:25:51.786 --> 02:25:52.175
For life.

02:25:52.185 --> 02:25:53.264
Hungry for life.

02:25:53.265 --> 02:25:56.165
For family, for A lot of countries are going down in population, no?

02:25:56.185 --> 02:25:56.656
Right, right.

02:25:56.656 --> 02:25:57.056
People are out there.

02:25:57.470 --> 02:25:59.880
We're never going to have this problem because of immigration.

02:26:00.011 --> 02:26:00.380
Yeah.

02:26:00.671 --> 02:26:03.181
You know, so there's, there's so much goodness.

02:26:03.220 --> 02:26:04.480
Take the best and the brightest too.

02:26:04.490 --> 02:26:06.411
Like you guys are kind of the best and the brightest.

02:26:06.411 --> 02:26:09.870
Well, I don't know that, but I would like to think that we have.

02:26:09.886 --> 02:26:23.806
or improve the community in Fort Collins, a little, like, even if it's a little bit, we would like to think that we have done better than we have not taken, we have actually given to our community.

02:26:24.036 --> 02:26:28.995
So, so for me, so I had a hard time seeing a guy telling me that I'm a rapist.

02:26:29.896 --> 02:26:46.049
If he would, if that whole movement will be more kind, I think I would be more attracted because I am more, I don't like a lot of government either, but I, but I do enjoy the fact that Just his kind of anger, uh, sentiment just doesn't play well with you.

02:26:46.049 --> 02:26:49.367
Because, because I see, I have seen people hurt by that.

02:26:49.367 --> 02:26:49.969
Yeah, yeah.

02:26:49.969 --> 02:26:50.875
In our country.

02:26:50.876 --> 02:26:52.365
Well, maybe even you guys, right?

02:26:52.406 --> 02:27:21.745
Honestly, like, even like the, if there is like an increase in anti Spanish speaking people in America over the last few years, 18 months, which there well could be because of all the narrative around it like yes He's at least responsible and you guys also would probably say, you know, you know, I've million Non educated people a year from desperate situations doesn't necessarily makes the country stronger.

02:27:21.755 --> 02:27:24.486
But you know what, but this is not going to be, we can agree on that.

02:27:24.486 --> 02:27:24.796
Yeah.

02:27:24.806 --> 02:27:24.825
Yeah.

02:27:24.825 --> 02:27:40.245
But this is not, this is not going to be the character of a person or another, this is not about Kamala or, or this is not the blue and the red, or the, I think this is about, uh, the essence of, of the, of the American culture of the, of the United States culture.

02:27:40.245 --> 02:27:43.755
Kind of the welcomingness of, and that's where Fort Collins is great.

02:27:43.806 --> 02:27:44.056
Yeah.

02:27:44.056 --> 02:27:50.615
I think everybody, every, you're, you should be entitled, you should be entitled to be yourself, but the moment.

02:27:51.286 --> 02:27:55.935
You get aggressive to your neighbor, that's where I put the line in me in Mexico.

02:27:55.935 --> 02:28:06.345
We have like a phrase that says the moment that like your rights begin, mine end because that line, like I can, I can speak my mind to the point that I'm not offending you.

02:28:06.345 --> 02:28:08.935
The moment that I start offending you, that's where it ends.

02:28:08.935 --> 02:28:13.396
I have no need to transpass to be violent to you because you have a different faith.

02:28:13.435 --> 02:28:13.695
Yeah.

02:28:13.695 --> 02:28:15.635
We're going to be on the fence into violence.

02:28:15.636 --> 02:28:37.585
The thing is that in a country, especially that the thing is that, uh, In a country like the United States, if we think about that and a little bit on a, on a metaphysical world, let's say, uh, where, I mean, I'm seeing a table here and it's all like little triangles and there's a center and all the triangles you can see all, all they're all different, little skinny pieces of cheesecake.

02:28:37.605 --> 02:28:38.165
Exactly.

02:28:38.165 --> 02:28:41.923
So in the United States, That's about how many different opinions there are.

02:28:41.923 --> 02:28:42.229
Exactly.

02:28:42.229 --> 02:28:45.301
In a country like ours, you only have four pieces.

02:28:45.301 --> 02:28:45.916
Right, right.

02:28:45.916 --> 02:28:49.835
So when you have so much constraint on what you can or cannot say.

02:28:49.845 --> 02:28:52.015
Well, you have to hold it more loosely, I think.

02:28:52.015 --> 02:28:56.025
But also anger builds because you can't, everybody's walking in eggshells here.

02:28:56.085 --> 02:28:56.945
Oh, you say he.

02:28:57.970 --> 02:28:59.521
Uh, you can't say black.

02:28:59.540 --> 02:29:00.300
You can't say this.

02:29:00.300 --> 02:29:05.400
You can't say that there's so much, you couldn't say people of color, but you can't say colored people.

02:29:05.411 --> 02:29:06.181
There's so much.

02:29:06.200 --> 02:29:07.640
Everybody takes it personal.

02:29:07.761 --> 02:29:11.040
Like it's so crazy talking about that.

02:29:11.040 --> 02:29:16.411
For example, in specific, it's like, for example, in Colombia, we call our African Americans in Colombia.

02:29:16.411 --> 02:29:17.800
They're negros.

02:29:18.001 --> 02:29:18.130
Okay.

02:29:18.716 --> 02:29:36.835
We call them negros as I am white, but it is what it is, but if we say, if I dare to say someone as a black or African American that he's negro or black, you know, like the word that I don't want to use, obviously, that will be the biggest offense in Colombia.

02:29:36.876 --> 02:29:38.275
I'm just saying it for the world.

02:29:38.306 --> 02:29:40.656
That is just the word you're, you're black and white.

02:29:40.656 --> 02:29:45.976
I think, I mean, I hope, I hope, but I got a lot of friends who are so different than I am in Colombia.

02:29:46.300 --> 02:29:48.351
color shapes and forms and whatever.

02:29:48.880 --> 02:29:52.761
And when you have a tight circle, I think you don't give a shit.

02:29:52.771 --> 02:29:55.421
How, how you, how you handle amongst yourself.

02:29:55.890 --> 02:30:06.890
And if we could find that love and, and, and, and, and funniness and where we make jokes out of ourselves, instead of taking it so personal, I think we're going to have more fun.

02:30:07.011 --> 02:30:10.880
Do you think that's good in terms of like a nationalistic style?

02:30:10.880 --> 02:30:25.445
Like one of the things that I appreciate about Christianity in general, and like You'll read a lot of terrible things about Christians being racist and whatever, but mostly the real Christians are farthest from it.

02:30:26.046 --> 02:30:27.185
You know, they don't care.

02:30:27.185 --> 02:30:33.025
They're parts of the same body and they have the same kind of faith and unity within that.

02:30:33.536 --> 02:30:40.945
Um, like, do you think that same kind of notion could be useful for America?

02:30:41.595 --> 02:30:55.816
Like is there a, is there a value in the nationalistic kind of element of, I'm not going to try to coax you toward Trump, but like America first, like the, the notion that America is, or should it be more part of the world?

02:30:55.825 --> 02:31:02.661
The way that I see, the way that I see it is, Should countries in general be more nationalistic maybe is a better question.

02:31:02.661 --> 02:31:07.230
I would like more, I like more where we were going with globalization.

02:31:07.810 --> 02:31:13.581
I think, I think, I think I feel better about a global You trust the United Nations to run a good ship better.

02:31:14.191 --> 02:31:17.331
The same way anybody will trust any organization to run it.

02:31:17.331 --> 02:31:19.761
Like, I mean, you know, Catholics, church.

02:31:19.841 --> 02:31:33.210
Right, well that's my concern is that high concentrations of power, Create high concentrations of corruption and that if we have a global government that'll that'll be the worst of the worst I don't think you have to have a global war global government like Uh, per se, no?

02:31:33.210 --> 02:31:35.361
Like, it's always, it's like here, it's separated by states.

02:31:35.361 --> 02:31:39.630
That's what I was saying, well, with the, nationalism can be in a global community.

02:31:39.800 --> 02:31:43.710
Like, they can each be working for their own interests, but with nobody having too much power.

02:31:43.710 --> 02:31:45.921
It's just, that's exactly where I was going.

02:31:45.921 --> 02:31:50.431
I feel like there's, I mean, like everything in life, there's a positive side to it.

02:31:50.820 --> 02:31:52.560
And there can be a really negative side to it.

02:31:52.560 --> 02:31:56.820
I think the negative side of nationalism or whatever can be fascism.

02:31:56.960 --> 02:31:57.111
Sure.

02:31:57.611 --> 02:31:58.851
Because it's like the extreme.

02:31:58.900 --> 02:31:59.210
Right.

02:31:59.411 --> 02:32:01.091
So that is horrible.

02:32:01.210 --> 02:32:02.191
We've seen what happens with that.

02:32:02.220 --> 02:32:02.640
Agreed.

02:32:02.640 --> 02:32:06.960
Well, and, and, and even China's current brand of communism is kind of fascism.

02:32:06.960 --> 02:32:07.240
Yeah.

02:32:07.271 --> 02:32:07.870
Horrible too.

02:32:07.880 --> 02:32:08.681
Very much fascism.

02:32:08.681 --> 02:32:09.490
I mean, you know.

02:32:09.581 --> 02:32:10.504
When Hong Kong.

02:32:10.504 --> 02:32:11.322
I was gonna say.

02:32:11.322 --> 02:32:12.671
When Hong Kong turned into.

02:32:12.681 --> 02:32:14.251
When Hong Kong started from that.

02:32:14.421 --> 02:32:15.300
It was a fucking slaughter.

02:32:15.380 --> 02:32:16.130
Fuck yeah.

02:32:16.290 --> 02:32:19.460
But, I mean, if you, if you create.

02:32:20.611 --> 02:32:26.880
Pride in national, like, uh, belonging to your country, to your roots, to your people, to everything.

02:32:26.880 --> 02:32:27.900
With anger?

02:32:27.921 --> 02:32:28.501
No, no.

02:32:28.620 --> 02:32:28.941
Exactly.

02:32:29.140 --> 02:32:29.511
That's my point.

02:32:29.511 --> 02:32:29.931
Without anger.

02:32:29.931 --> 02:32:32.220
Not white Christian nationalism.

02:32:32.261 --> 02:32:33.097
I'm talking about Americanism.

02:32:33.097 --> 02:32:33.793
Just love.

02:32:33.793 --> 02:32:35.532
Like, love for Americans ism.

02:32:35.532 --> 02:32:35.880
Exactly.

02:32:35.880 --> 02:32:36.576
It's beautiful.

02:32:36.576 --> 02:32:40.055
There's nothing bad about pushing Because that's what I have.

02:32:40.345 --> 02:32:41.945
Pushing your companies first.

02:32:42.005 --> 02:32:43.095
Nothing bad about that.

02:32:43.136 --> 02:32:44.185
Why wouldn't you?

02:32:44.216 --> 02:32:47.716
I mean, Colombians have been doing that for many years, right?

02:32:47.806 --> 02:33:07.450
Colombians, why wouldn't you like we would not we would not take the american product before we would take the colombian toy 30 years ago It wasn't I so I cannot speak for what colombians are doing right now because I haven't lived in colombia in many years But I can tell you that We had our love for our things much bigger, much clearer.

02:33:07.450 --> 02:33:11.000
If the American product is, Coca Cola is there, but the Colombian soda is right there.

02:33:11.001 --> 02:33:14.501
We would grab the Colombiana before we would grab the Coca Cola.

02:33:14.501 --> 02:33:17.690
Because somebody from Colombia got a paycheck because of making that.

02:33:17.691 --> 02:33:19.460
And it gives jobs to our people.

02:33:19.511 --> 02:33:19.820
Right.

02:33:19.851 --> 02:33:22.861
But also, the products that they make are really good.

02:33:22.976 --> 02:33:26.206
And honestly, there should be pride around that.

02:33:26.236 --> 02:33:26.886
There's pride.

02:33:26.915 --> 02:33:29.505
They have, they have pride on their, on their creations.

02:33:29.556 --> 02:33:29.876
Yeah.

02:33:29.876 --> 02:33:30.886
That's a beautiful thing.

02:33:30.886 --> 02:33:34.236
And because of the pride of the creation, the product is good.

02:33:34.626 --> 02:33:38.745
And you want to have it better than a product that maybe the builders don't give a shit.

02:33:38.755 --> 02:33:39.355
Why would you buy?

02:33:39.605 --> 02:33:41.216
It's not only, it's not only that.

02:33:41.685 --> 02:33:51.906
It's not only that because of a cultural aspect, uh, of, of whether it's a superiority or whatever, no, no, it's because I think it's because of the product.

02:33:51.915 --> 02:34:00.146
My Turkish exchange student said, uh, I am not rich enough to buy, uh, cheap shoes or cheap clothes.

02:34:00.175 --> 02:34:01.425
I can't remember what the price was.

02:34:01.425 --> 02:34:03.745
Exactly, like clothes that last for six months and then you get holes.

02:34:03.755 --> 02:34:05.835
Right, or clothes that last for 20 years.

02:34:05.945 --> 02:34:06.695
That, that's another thing.

02:34:06.695 --> 02:34:07.005
Exactly.

02:34:07.005 --> 02:34:07.925
Cause so, I'm like.

02:34:08.630 --> 02:34:29.390
I feel like if you think about nationalism and you're thinking about investing in those characters, there's definitely a positive side to it because the country and the nation would be better if we support our products, our people, our minds, you know, our entrepreneurs, instead of looking outside to go fish and see what's out there.

02:34:29.431 --> 02:34:32.150
But the reality is that the United States is what?

02:34:32.431 --> 02:34:33.601
A representation of what?

02:34:34.036 --> 02:34:36.456
Here, the United States, it's of every culture.

02:34:36.515 --> 02:34:38.685
That's, that's a, that's a complicated thing here.

02:34:38.736 --> 02:34:41.755
So that's, that's a melting pot superpower as well.

02:34:41.765 --> 02:34:45.876
And so we have to, you have, in my argument of embrace America ism.

02:34:46.296 --> 02:34:50.105
It's like, we have to embrace it without abusing our power.

02:34:50.105 --> 02:34:51.945
Like that's one of the challenging things.

02:34:51.945 --> 02:34:52.239
Like.

02:34:52.720 --> 02:34:57.691
Even, like, you see my interaction with Alma, like, um, we have a good relationship, right?

02:34:57.720 --> 02:35:01.050
Like, and, and it's built on respect and trust and all these things.

02:35:01.751 --> 02:35:04.870
And like, I'm her paycheck provider.

02:35:04.950 --> 02:35:05.390
Of course.

02:35:05.400 --> 02:35:12.591
So one of my most important things is not to abuse the power that I wield by incidents of our Of course.

02:35:12.591 --> 02:35:14.479
Yes, of the situation that we do have.

02:35:14.480 --> 02:35:15.980
And America is like that, too.

02:35:16.611 --> 02:35:23.380
Like, to not abuse the power of the situation of being America, being half the world's GDP almost, or a third.

02:35:23.431 --> 02:35:31.761
Well, that, that, if, if, if we can all, if, if that's the case, then, you know, it's, it's a very honorable way of living.

02:35:32.140 --> 02:35:33.511
If you If you can do it.

02:35:33.570 --> 02:35:35.390
If you can resist the temptation for war.

02:35:35.400 --> 02:35:35.480
Exactly.

02:35:35.480 --> 02:35:37.681
And I can tell you that And for many other things.

02:35:37.751 --> 02:35:46.640
Well, yeah, but it's like, for me it's like, uh, let's say the United States is a pond and then you have a little stream, uh, and then you know, the pond's been there for a little bit longer.

02:35:46.640 --> 02:35:49.941
And then you have the stream, which is all the people that are coming all the time here.

02:35:49.945 --> 02:35:50.361
Yeah, yeah.

02:35:50.361 --> 02:35:51.681
Immigration and whatever.

02:35:51.681 --> 02:35:51.952
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:35:52.040 --> 02:35:55.490
And this pond is here, but there's why the pond stays fresh.

02:35:55.495 --> 02:36:00.050
There's, there's always, but there's always, there's always resistance of the pond when the stream gets in.

02:36:00.056 --> 02:36:00.296
Yeah.

02:36:00.300 --> 02:36:00.591
Yeah.

02:36:00.591 --> 02:36:02.540
I think it's all, this is so fucking natural.

02:36:02.540 --> 02:36:02.841
We just.

02:36:03.700 --> 02:36:21.011
Uh, we just don't stop and think enough, I think, uh, to, to understand that the way that the United States reacts and moves and everything, it's so, so typical and natural of uniting so many different, uh, kinds of cultures and mentalities.

02:36:21.040 --> 02:36:22.370
You guys are trying something different.

02:36:22.380 --> 02:36:23.191
It's a hard quilt.

02:36:23.511 --> 02:36:25.081
Oh, it's a beautiful.

02:36:25.271 --> 02:36:26.730
It's done wonderful.

02:36:27.341 --> 02:36:27.700
It's beautiful.

02:36:27.700 --> 02:36:30.640
And I hope it lasts for a long time because it has better all their countries.

02:36:30.640 --> 02:36:34.271
And you know, I was gonna say, I was gonna say that Kurt and Juan and I talk about it.

02:36:34.290 --> 02:36:49.015
And I mean, I'm I'm a ruler for all three countries, but I, we do agree on the fact that we miss, even though it was intrusive and it could be intrusive at some points, at the end, I'm sorry, at the end, it was also helpful.

02:36:49.015 --> 02:37:01.175
The United States meddling in conflicts of countries that cannot defend themselves, your kind of support, what you guys used to give to those countries would help those countries.

02:37:01.365 --> 02:37:11.140
Like for example, let's put Now that we're talking about Venezuela, if United States was what it was 15, 20 years ago, Maduro would not be in Venezuela causing the trouble that he is right now.

02:37:11.150 --> 02:37:14.800
If we didn't have the Haiti would not be in the shit that he just got voted out.

02:37:14.931 --> 02:37:22.730
Maduro got voted out handily, voted out, and then he dismissed completely the election process and kept himself his fucking ass.

02:37:22.730 --> 02:37:23.700
But nobody's doing anything.

02:37:23.941 --> 02:37:25.021
I had to run away.

02:37:25.050 --> 02:37:25.720
Whose fault is that?

02:37:26.345 --> 02:37:28.995
Um, it's not Biden's or Kamala's fault at all.

02:37:29.056 --> 02:37:29.835
I have no idea.

02:37:29.835 --> 02:37:31.935
I wouldn't know.

02:37:31.935 --> 02:37:32.786
I don't know.

02:37:32.786 --> 02:37:33.875
This thing goes before.

02:37:33.876 --> 02:37:34.165
Maduro?

02:37:34.165 --> 02:37:36.775
This is fault of the people who voted for him.

02:37:36.786 --> 02:37:36.845
You're right.

02:37:37.195 --> 02:37:39.075
I mean, it's Well, but No, here's the thing.

02:37:39.425 --> 02:37:42.765
Maduro is not the fault of the people because he was never voted by the people.

02:37:42.796 --> 02:37:44.435
He was installed by Chavez.

02:37:44.435 --> 02:37:44.840
That's so true.

02:37:44.840 --> 02:37:44.975
Right.

02:37:44.976 --> 02:37:47.015
So Maduro has never been elected by the Venezuelan.

02:37:47.015 --> 02:37:48.476
And he was voted out just recently.

02:37:48.515 --> 02:37:49.726
And he was voted out twice.

02:37:49.876 --> 02:37:50.396
Twice now.

02:37:50.396 --> 02:37:56.786
He put So, in the last elections before this one, he put in jail his opposition, the candidate, for four years.

02:37:56.995 --> 02:37:57.536
He ran away.

02:37:57.665 --> 02:37:59.865
So, he has done this already twice.

02:38:00.771 --> 02:38:02.040
And before that was Chavez.

02:38:02.581 --> 02:38:05.820
And I think Chavez was elected by the people the first term.

02:38:05.851 --> 02:38:08.251
And after that, he, he elected himself.

02:38:08.251 --> 02:38:11.790
Well, you can, you can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.

02:38:11.831 --> 02:38:12.540
Exactly.

02:38:12.560 --> 02:38:14.550
So it's, I mean, it's super delicate, right?

02:38:14.550 --> 02:38:15.880
And we missed that intervention.

02:38:15.880 --> 02:38:24.720
But then, then we get, let's say we talk about socialism and, and, and a perspective that I seen that it might be a little bit, I'm very drawn to graphics.

02:38:24.720 --> 02:38:38.675
So I'm looking at your computer and going, uh, um, um, I guess so like, for example, uh, I've heard this thing here, and this is from an outsider, that everybody's so afraid to go into socialism.

02:38:39.505 --> 02:38:39.755
Yeah.

02:38:40.206 --> 02:38:47.495
But, I don't know the ciphers, and I'm probably completely wrong in this thing, but if I'm not, anybody can check it out there, whatever.

02:38:47.865 --> 02:38:52.715
Uh, how many of those people who don't want to be in socialism depend on the government to live?

02:38:54.775 --> 02:39:23.046
How many people of the percentage of people that don't want to be in socialism depend on the well everybody no, no, no I'm talking about because we get our roads from there and Just in general how many people are a benefactors of social programs that are also for example You go and you collect your stamps for your sure sure and and you don't want to be in a socialist Society, but you still are well very few Yeah, you'd be surprised.

02:39:23.085 --> 02:39:31.271
Okay Because it's easy to buy those votes that way because, you know, I can either shut off my free money or I can keep it going.

02:39:31.320 --> 02:39:35.031
It's the, it's the way that it works a little bit, but we can talk about that more later.

02:39:35.421 --> 02:39:36.640
Um, I want to go into family.

02:39:37.060 --> 02:39:37.400
Okay.

02:39:37.941 --> 02:39:41.431
Um, And I think we'll just do it kind of rapidly.

02:39:41.431 --> 02:39:44.370
I gotta pee, but I can probably wait 15 minutes, I think.

02:39:44.370 --> 02:39:45.351
Are your bladders okay?

02:39:45.521 --> 02:39:46.120
Yes, yes.

02:39:46.380 --> 02:39:46.870
So far, yes.

02:39:46.870 --> 02:39:50.531
So, um, you guys mentioned that you, you don't have any children.

02:39:50.640 --> 02:39:51.411
Is that correct?

02:39:51.421 --> 02:39:51.740
No.

02:39:51.880 --> 02:39:52.421
No kids.

02:39:52.560 --> 02:39:55.900
We only have, uh, four legged kids and two legged chickens.

02:39:56.261 --> 02:39:58.261
But you do have an exchange student.

02:39:58.761 --> 02:40:08.820
Uh, with you for the first time, uh, we have family in town, which is basically, yes, it's kind of, so our niece is living with us.

02:40:08.831 --> 02:40:12.210
So she's between living with us and living with Juan's brother.

02:40:12.210 --> 02:40:14.710
So Juan has a brother here with his wife and his two kids.

02:40:14.710 --> 02:40:15.130
Okay.

02:40:15.220 --> 02:40:24.181
So we have family in town and since they became a part of Colorado like five years ago, our family situation changed a lot.

02:40:24.181 --> 02:40:24.851
Oh wow.

02:40:24.861 --> 02:40:25.570
So you're not just like.

02:40:25.976 --> 02:40:27.556
Because now it's not just the two of us.

02:40:27.556 --> 02:40:28.105
Oh, wow.

02:40:28.105 --> 02:40:29.765
I didn't really realize the extent of that.

02:40:29.966 --> 02:40:33.406
Now we, we don't have kids, but we have our nephews and nieces.

02:40:33.406 --> 02:40:34.674
We have family around all the time.

02:40:34.674 --> 02:40:34.854
Yes.

02:40:34.854 --> 02:40:36.816
And that definitely changed our situation.

02:40:36.816 --> 02:40:37.656
Thank you, Roberta.

02:40:37.716 --> 02:40:44.386
And, uh, and Ana, which is the new exchange student, quote unquote, uh, she's our niece.

02:40:44.415 --> 02:41:14.386
And usually in Mérida, which is the city that they, she lives in Mexico, there's a tradition that in the second grade of I want to say middle school or something like that or the first or the first year of high school I don't know one of those the first of us go to another country Okay, so because we are living here and she had an opportunity to come and be a part of the school system Without having too many troubles on the documents because she's a minor blah blah and she's with family So now she is living like an exchange student, basically, uh, but she's staying with family.

02:41:15.736 --> 02:41:16.956
My brother house in my house.

02:41:17.005 --> 02:41:17.915
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:41:17.925 --> 02:41:18.476
It's kind of fun.

02:41:18.615 --> 02:41:20.316
Well, and she's a budding chef.

02:41:20.816 --> 02:41:21.685
Oh, Jesus.

02:41:21.685 --> 02:41:22.845
Yes, she has.

02:41:23.146 --> 02:41:23.376
I know.

02:41:24.126 --> 02:41:24.765
She's impressive.

02:41:24.765 --> 02:41:28.046
She's definitely, uh, dedicated, devoted.

02:41:29.521 --> 02:41:31.361
She's been a gymnast since she was three.

02:41:31.361 --> 02:41:33.251
So teamwork is natural for her.

02:41:33.550 --> 02:41:36.240
So when she goes into a kitchen, she's always on helping mode.

02:41:36.361 --> 02:41:36.980
What can I do?

02:41:37.011 --> 02:41:37.661
How can I help?

02:41:37.671 --> 02:41:41.720
What else is, what there, what, what else needs to be done?

02:41:41.720 --> 02:41:43.091
Or, you know, blah, blah, blah.

02:41:43.111 --> 02:41:45.740
She's, she's very easy to, to, uh, have fun with.

02:41:46.421 --> 02:41:47.400
And she loves food.

02:41:47.431 --> 02:41:50.200
So she comes to the events, she gets to see the whole production.

02:41:50.646 --> 02:41:53.976
Everything that holds, that happens behind the show, our wedding.

02:41:53.986 --> 02:41:54.935
Pretty, pretty enlightening.

02:41:54.945 --> 02:41:56.015
Ah, super fun.

02:41:56.015 --> 02:42:03.486
And, and, uh, cause we, you know, we, it's kind of fun to have her around and it's also kind of, it's nice to have our week off and our week on.

02:42:03.896 --> 02:42:06.115
We definitely enjoy our, our time.

02:42:06.136 --> 02:42:18.425
That's like, well, that's one of the, this is probably not appropriate for this conversation, but I've noticed over the last 10 years that like kind of the ultimate lifestyle is now to be like a divorced.

02:42:18.876 --> 02:42:25.886
Parent and you get a week on, you get a week off, you get a week on, you get a week off, you could date this person, these three people.

02:42:25.906 --> 02:42:29.217
It's like being the aunt and the uncle, you don't need to be the parent.

02:42:29.217 --> 02:42:29.790
Yeah, exactly.

02:42:29.790 --> 02:42:38.809
It's so, it's probably terrible for society in the long run because Then nobody will actually take possession of the kids and make sure they're good.

02:42:38.810 --> 02:42:46.220
And the new generation kids, for what we can see, because we work with a lot of young kids, they are not interested in taking any responsibility.

02:42:46.230 --> 02:42:46.771
Yes, I'll take the 0.

02:42:46.771 --> 02:42:48.630
0 responsibility, but zero.

02:42:49.490 --> 02:42:51.431
They have no interest in buying a house.

02:42:52.255 --> 02:42:53.706
Keeping a job with a corporation.

02:42:53.765 --> 02:42:54.665
Adopting a dog.

02:42:55.486 --> 02:42:57.015
It's too much responsibility.

02:42:57.306 --> 02:43:00.376
We live in the age of memberships.

02:43:00.585 --> 02:43:02.695
So their life is a membership in the United States.

02:43:02.736 --> 02:43:03.476
Like in their country.

02:43:03.906 --> 02:43:04.376
Yeah, yeah.

02:43:04.376 --> 02:43:05.656
They're not investing.

02:43:05.656 --> 02:43:07.966
You don't buy a DVD and you keep it.

02:43:08.650 --> 02:43:08.950
Right.

02:43:08.990 --> 02:43:12.050
Do you pay a membership and you have access to everything?

02:43:12.521 --> 02:43:24.091
I invested thousands of dollars in music only for Apple to tell me two years ago that all my music library was free and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

02:43:24.130 --> 02:43:24.650
My money back.

02:43:24.650 --> 02:43:28.800
I mean, I have to burn my freaking CDs into somewhere.

02:43:28.851 --> 02:43:35.450
I mean, my library had like 9, 000 songs that at some point I bought one song at a time or one CD at a time.

02:43:35.480 --> 02:43:36.219
I'm like pissed.

02:43:36.431 --> 02:43:37.399
I'm like, no, no, no.

02:43:37.400 --> 02:43:38.630
Money that I'm never going to see back.

02:43:38.740 --> 02:43:39.220
I feel ya.

02:43:39.851 --> 02:43:48.470
Um, and so, excuse me, we talked about, like, you know, you moving to Columbia, him being like.

02:43:49.945 --> 02:43:59.966
Whatever, but like, what was the, like who was the first one to tip their hand and say, I really like you and I want to spend more time with you and maybe romantically?

02:44:00.185 --> 02:44:00.456
Me.

02:44:00.845 --> 02:44:12.646
You and I made my boobs and my, my boobs, my boobs, octopus, octopus, octopus, I mean, I know I said not octopus.

02:44:12.646 --> 02:44:13.325
I'm just joking.

02:44:13.325 --> 02:44:13.865
I don't care.

02:44:14.105 --> 02:44:20.335
I made my moves, moves, moves, as an M O.

02:44:20.335 --> 02:44:21.125
That's easier for you.

02:44:21.126 --> 02:44:28.485
For you, then, Trujillo, Trujillo, is for me.

02:44:28.566 --> 02:44:29.685
So, I made my move.

02:44:31.726 --> 02:44:32.585
You made your move?

02:44:32.585 --> 02:44:33.355
I made my move.

02:44:33.906 --> 02:44:45.646
Uh, a couple of times I want to say, but, whether he was in a relationship or I was in a relationship, alcohol definitely had something to do, but we never Took those opportunities or those moves as we were friends.

02:44:45.675 --> 02:44:47.005
Didn't quite go there.

02:44:47.415 --> 02:44:51.796
We didn't, we, I don't think we didn't want it to, there was an attraction.

02:44:51.825 --> 02:44:59.864
There was, there was a, there was a long term attraction, but not only just physical, there was an attraction that of, uh, like.

02:45:00.435 --> 02:45:13.165
Um, when you admire somebody, admiration comes with respect and respect comes with, so there, there was like a domino of all the, that section of love and that aspect that, uh, it goes beyond the looks.

02:45:13.165 --> 02:45:13.415
No.

02:45:13.906 --> 02:45:22.925
Uh, so like in my, me personally, I knew that if I, if I went as, if I wanted to do a move, it was a, it was a one bullet gun.

02:45:23.876 --> 02:45:37.956
I needed to like, plan, uh, how, when, because, uh, first of all, we both were with other relationships.

02:45:38.115 --> 02:45:39.736
relationships while we were friends in playa.

02:45:39.736 --> 02:45:43.450
So we developed this frenesance that I was telling you about.

02:45:43.450 --> 02:45:44.822
And were his girlfriends a bunch of dumb shit?

02:45:44.822 --> 02:45:45.279
They hated him.

02:45:45.279 --> 02:45:45.736
They hated me.

02:45:45.736 --> 02:45:46.192
They hated girls.

02:45:46.192 --> 02:45:46.649
Love ya! Peace.

02:45:46.880 --> 02:45:50.460
And vice versa, the boys that she was dating thought that you were an asshat.

02:45:50.890 --> 02:45:51.341
Pretty much.

02:45:51.431 --> 02:45:52.120
Vice versa.

02:45:52.150 --> 02:45:52.181
Yes.

02:45:52.560 --> 02:45:56.761
And everybody could see that in the future we were going to have a relationship, but I couldn't.

02:45:56.761 --> 02:45:58.710
I was like, pfft.

02:45:58.751 --> 02:46:00.050
And I only wished for it.

02:46:01.390 --> 02:46:03.623
You're like, oh, she thought I only wished.

02:46:03.623 --> 02:46:13.611
I mean, and this, I'm not proud of this, but we were drinking and smoking and having Uh, I used to, with the ex, uh, Hooli's ex, which was, he's my cousin.

02:46:13.851 --> 02:46:14.150
Okay.

02:46:15.111 --> 02:46:16.800
It's a whole telenovela.

02:46:16.800 --> 02:46:25.070
Yeah, I didn't know he existed, but I met him, and then that's when I met Hooli, and I just, it was just, she didn't have any, like, she had like a buzz.

02:46:25.070 --> 02:46:26.581
I had buzzed my hair.

02:46:26.700 --> 02:46:27.351
No way.

02:46:27.361 --> 02:46:31.560
So I had, I've done that a couple of times in my life, and he actually met me when I was looking like a tootsie.

02:46:31.611 --> 02:46:37.685
And I just thought she was, Just the most beautiful girl that I was like, it was my cousins.

02:46:37.685 --> 02:46:38.495
I didn't do anything.

02:46:38.575 --> 02:46:39.976
Uh, so we just became friends.

02:46:39.976 --> 02:46:46.935
I went through the friend route and then we started getting humor eccentric, uh, as a random chef in Mexico with a buzz cut.

02:46:47.386 --> 02:46:52.036
All the, all the, all the girls, I was big for lesbians.

02:46:52.216 --> 02:46:54.740
She was bigger lesbians left and right were, it was so funny.

02:46:54.740 --> 02:47:02.156
We would be walking up the street and even though Juan and I would be walking together, they would still like, you know, like send me kisses or like ring.

02:47:02.300 --> 02:47:03.470
And I would be like, what the hell?

02:47:03.470 --> 02:47:04.611
And they would be like, call me.

02:47:04.611 --> 02:47:08.421
And I was like, bulls kind of.

02:47:08.870 --> 02:47:09.560
That was funny.

02:47:09.560 --> 02:47:10.915
Yeah, it was so funny.

02:47:11.790 --> 02:47:12.980
I was like, holy, did you saw that?

02:47:13.021 --> 02:47:14.581
And I was like, no, no, keep walking.

02:47:17.130 --> 02:47:20.351
So anyway, so you made your move, what was the situation?

02:47:20.361 --> 02:47:26.888
So we were, well actually, like After her, like, hiking trip from Mexico to We were in Playa del Carmen.

02:47:26.888 --> 02:47:27.352
No, this is all before.

02:47:27.352 --> 02:47:28.835
We were in Playa del Carmen.

02:47:28.935 --> 02:47:29.335
Okay.

02:47:29.365 --> 02:47:29.806
Uh huh.

02:47:30.406 --> 02:47:33.886
Yeah, we were in Playa del Carmen, and we were working together, this whole thing.

02:47:33.886 --> 02:47:35.935
I had a girlfriend, hula da da da, the whole thing.

02:47:36.345 --> 02:47:45.406
And, uh, and then, um, eventually, you stopped going out with, uh, my cousin, and No manches, I had Santiago after that, too.

02:47:45.406 --> 02:47:48.075
And then, and then she started going out with another guy.

02:47:48.075 --> 02:47:48.115
Uh huh.

02:47:48.115 --> 02:47:48.125
Okay.

02:47:48.495 --> 02:47:55.665
And I started going out with another girl, but we will, we will always like once a month, we will have our friend assignments and we will go like together.

02:47:55.665 --> 02:48:04.376
We wouldn't say yeah, we don't, we just go have a long coffee and we will go to like this fucking little place far away, like an hour and a half from playa in a beach.

02:48:04.730 --> 02:48:09.681
And, and, and we will just sit in a restaurant and with a little table next to the ocean and whatever.

02:48:09.710 --> 02:48:10.890
Oh, you do this regularly?

02:48:11.390 --> 02:48:16.251
Yeah, we would have like two places that we would go whether one was in Playa and the other one was closer to work.

02:48:16.450 --> 02:48:19.581
Nothing happened but friendship, but it was more than friendship.

02:48:19.620 --> 02:48:20.101
Sure.

02:48:20.460 --> 02:48:22.558
You were exploring what that chapter could look like.

02:48:22.558 --> 02:48:25.091
But we were just having the best of fucking times together.

02:48:25.140 --> 02:48:27.230
And then we will go back to our shitty relationship.

02:48:29.150 --> 02:48:30.980
And that went like that for a while.

02:48:31.150 --> 02:48:31.761
For a while.

02:48:31.775 --> 02:48:35.675
I don't know if we all, but, uh, it's, I've seen more people.

02:48:35.675 --> 02:48:41.085
I've heard more people than normal that have, that go through really rough relationships that can't get out of it.

02:48:41.085 --> 02:48:42.275
No, that's how we were.

02:48:42.296 --> 02:48:43.646
We were like in shitty relationships.

02:48:43.646 --> 02:48:44.495
We couldn't get out of it.

02:48:45.146 --> 02:48:51.255
We knew that we liked each other more than where we were and we wish we wanted to be together, but we didn't know how to transition to that.

02:48:51.810 --> 02:49:03.101
And, and, uh, and then one day Juli made a, uh, a big move and I was like, That was when I decided to leave Playa and go to Colombia and did this, this trip and all of those things.

02:49:03.380 --> 02:49:05.761
So at that point, my life in Playa was done.

02:49:06.001 --> 02:49:07.540
That was the end of my path.

02:49:07.540 --> 02:49:11.751
She was going out with this guy that was going to go with her, uh, to the trip and the whole thing.

02:49:12.290 --> 02:49:16.261
And then, luckily, the guy decided to fucking say no.

02:49:16.650 --> 02:49:19.021
And I was like, And I'm like, I'm gonna go.

02:49:19.095 --> 02:49:23.706
I'll, I'll, I'll, I have this shit going, but I can take a month off and I'll go with you.

02:49:23.775 --> 02:49:24.495
Oh, no shit.

02:49:24.505 --> 02:49:25.796
Through this first part.

02:49:25.925 --> 02:49:29.476
I didn't realize that you were actually also along in parts of it.

02:49:29.546 --> 02:49:34.025
So he was, he was in the trip for the first, I want to say three to four weeks.

02:49:34.036 --> 02:49:34.286
Yeah.

02:49:34.296 --> 02:49:43.005
We were in that first part, but when I cross, when I had to cross from Mexico to Guatemala, that was when he, he had his own, he had things to do.

02:49:43.345 --> 02:49:47.406
I was in a shaman thing and whatnot.

02:49:47.456 --> 02:49:48.265
Yeah, I was.

02:49:48.620 --> 02:49:54.060
No, no, I didn't have the girl and I was, I was more like, no girl, no boy, more self exploration.

02:49:54.060 --> 02:49:54.531
We're freelancers.

02:49:54.550 --> 02:49:54.800
Yeah.

02:49:55.251 --> 02:49:56.261
We're more inwards, right?

02:49:56.390 --> 02:49:57.841
We were like, all right, fuck this.

02:49:58.060 --> 02:50:00.050
And were you like romantic right away?

02:50:00.691 --> 02:50:01.710
Is that rude to ask?

02:50:01.740 --> 02:50:02.531
No, no, no.

02:50:02.650 --> 02:50:03.630
It was, I know, honestly.

02:50:03.630 --> 02:50:05.280
I'm guessing it was more not that way.

02:50:05.280 --> 02:50:06.570
So here's, here's how it happened.

02:50:06.581 --> 02:50:09.751
Actually, I remember, we remember perfectly because it was really funny.

02:50:09.751 --> 02:50:31.630
We were, um, We were having our last dinner as friends, like that was the last time that we were going to see each other and we were just having a bottle of wine and a como como in the restaurant and we were just chatting blah blah just having our normal friendship thing and then at some point we were chatting and we realized in the conversation that I was no longer in a relationship.

02:50:32.040 --> 02:50:33.591
And he was no longer in our relationship.

02:50:33.720 --> 02:50:36.501
And we had fucking three days before my flight left.

02:50:36.790 --> 02:50:56.421
So we're like, It was like, check! I think it was like, Okay, so, bottle to go, please! And it was, and we both realized that it was, It was on like But it took, it took us the three days to make it to the final line, but it was definitely, uh, it was romance right away.

02:50:56.431 --> 02:50:57.640
It was definitely right away.

02:50:57.640 --> 02:51:02.490
Cause I think for both of us at that point, we've already been friends for eight to 10 years.

02:51:02.921 --> 02:51:03.060
Yeah.

02:51:03.111 --> 02:51:06.751
Well, there was a lot of admiration, a lot of honor, a lot of appreciation.

02:51:06.960 --> 02:51:10.120
It all came out just like, We don't need to get into the details.

02:51:10.130 --> 02:51:11.370
No, no, no, no.

02:51:11.431 --> 02:51:18.355
When we had the chance to actually, do something with our current, uh, back then current boyfriend, girlfriend, we decided not to.

02:51:19.226 --> 02:51:26.855
And that I think gave the opportunity that when the time was, you know, it was the right, so we had that moment and we had those three days in play.

02:51:26.855 --> 02:51:32.456
And obviously after having those three days, it was harder for us to let go because at that point I was facing a three month journey.

02:51:34.796 --> 02:51:37.615
So I was like, And the opposite direction completely.

02:51:37.646 --> 02:51:39.556
Gal walking to Colombia.

02:51:39.665 --> 02:51:40.355
Yes, exactly.

02:51:40.456 --> 02:51:44.355
And he was like stuck in Playa because he was still working with the real estate project and all of those things.

02:51:44.736 --> 02:51:53.185
And as I was walking, like, he started to I basically flew to my mom's house in, um, closer to Mexico City.

02:51:53.505 --> 02:51:56.236
And Juan flew Later with me.

02:51:56.245 --> 02:52:01.546
And then from there, we started this journey through Mexico on the way on the way out to Guatemala.

02:52:01.945 --> 02:52:02.986
We started in Colombia.

02:52:02.986 --> 02:52:04.085
And then no, no, no, no.

02:52:04.206 --> 02:52:04.825
You mean that?

02:52:05.675 --> 02:52:09.646
Yeah, we did all of those things in Mexico, Guatemala, Oaxaca and all this magic.

02:52:09.675 --> 02:52:12.245
I was just in my whole spiritual journey.

02:52:12.476 --> 02:52:16.105
And all that region of Mexico is super chamanic and spiritual.

02:52:16.245 --> 02:52:23.706
So you've got a pocket full of mushrooms and you're just like, We, we live in an island, one, one was super clean.

02:52:23.745 --> 02:52:25.815
It was more meditative at the time.

02:52:25.816 --> 02:52:32.325
My teacher always taught, uh, the way that they taught us wasn't with, uh, would actually, let's say taking a mushroom.

02:52:33.136 --> 02:52:35.876
Like the way they taught us was to put the mushroom in your hand.

02:52:36.296 --> 02:52:41.296
And to communicate and absorb the energy of the mushroom, not the actual physical.

02:52:41.306 --> 02:52:41.536
Yeah.

02:52:41.536 --> 02:52:41.765
Yeah.

02:52:41.796 --> 02:52:46.255
And to find that, try to take yourself to that finite trip space like that.

02:52:46.275 --> 02:52:47.945
So that was more of like her teaching.

02:52:47.976 --> 02:52:57.475
She wasn't the kind of guru that, and is this a, uh, an established faith background or something like, or, or like talk to me about it.

02:52:57.476 --> 02:52:57.716
Yeah.

02:52:57.716 --> 02:52:58.046
Yeah.

02:52:58.066 --> 02:53:03.585
No, my God, this is like, Chamanism in Mexico is something that you can actually study, but you need to find the right teacher.

02:53:03.636 --> 02:53:03.986
Yeah.

02:53:04.025 --> 02:53:05.456
But this is actually.

02:53:05.630 --> 02:53:07.001
A path that you can choose.

02:53:07.011 --> 02:53:11.081
So this woman that one had as a teacher, she's actually a psychiatrist, right?

02:53:11.161 --> 02:53:12.601
A licensed psychiatrist from Spain.

02:53:13.470 --> 02:53:13.761
Okay.

02:53:14.031 --> 02:53:16.140
And she has like masters and all of those things.

02:53:16.140 --> 02:53:18.200
So she's a medical blah, blah.

02:53:18.351 --> 02:53:24.870
And through this path, I think it was through helping people that were, she was the psychologist.

02:53:24.870 --> 02:53:37.425
I don't know the name right now, but she was a psychologist who helped people die basically to, to, to make sure that their life, they see their life, like, It was worth it because they died.

02:53:37.726 --> 02:53:48.136
Do you have, so there's a, a, a brand, it's called which is that people that de devote their lives to helping people, passing to, to help them pass.

02:53:48.140 --> 02:53:49.486
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:53:49.486 --> 02:53:55.216
And in that, and in that she found in that context, that could have been the branch that you traveled down even potentially.

02:53:55.306 --> 02:53:57.240
She found that in, uh, she found that's what she liked.

02:53:57.245 --> 02:53:58.845
She, her calling in there, I guess, let's say path.

02:53:58.906 --> 02:54:01.845
And through there she found a connection to the spiritual world.

02:54:01.845 --> 02:54:04.755
So she realized that she had a connection not only with the living.

02:54:06.261 --> 02:54:10.361
So, you know, you have all kinds of I'm no judge, you know.

02:54:10.740 --> 02:54:14.411
And there's all kinds of weird stuff like what we see below.

02:54:14.411 --> 02:54:14.720
I've seen a lot of weird shit.

02:54:14.720 --> 02:54:16.921
I always say I believe a lot of weird shit.

02:54:16.921 --> 02:54:18.040
I've seen a lot of weird shit.

02:54:18.161 --> 02:54:22.740
When we were kids and you were grabbing a little rock And you were playing with the rock, uh, spaceship.

02:54:23.341 --> 02:54:25.650
I was asked, was it a rock or was it a spaceship?

02:54:25.890 --> 02:54:26.290
Right.

02:54:27.240 --> 02:54:27.531
I don't know.

02:54:28.200 --> 02:54:30.650
In feminism, they're all spaceships.

02:54:30.661 --> 02:54:32.411
It's all about the power of the mind.

02:54:33.021 --> 02:54:37.490
How can you utilize that to create the imagination of it?

02:54:37.501 --> 02:54:44.661
So anyhow, after all of this, eventually we found each other in Columbia and he was bumping uglies from there.

02:54:44.691 --> 02:54:48.831
And he, yeah, I camp eight months.

02:54:48.921 --> 02:54:48.950
What?

02:54:49.706 --> 02:54:53.345
He followed me, he stayed in Colombia, we did Sabor Creativo, that thing.

02:54:53.626 --> 02:54:57.716
And then at some point, I wasn't sure that I wanted to be in a relationship at that point.

02:54:57.786 --> 02:55:06.925
Eight months Kurt, so he was very patient and he sat me down and gave me the ultimatum and said, I'm no longer staying as your pretty boy slash boyfriend slash whatever.

02:55:07.486 --> 02:55:15.306
You need to define this whether I'm in or I'm out and I cry my heart out and then eventually when he's like, okay, I'm packing.

02:55:15.306 --> 02:55:16.095
I was like, the fuck you are.

02:55:16.095 --> 02:55:17.075
You're not packing anything.

02:55:17.075 --> 02:55:18.286
You're saying you're mine.

02:55:18.316 --> 02:55:18.865
You're mine.

02:55:20.445 --> 02:55:21.236
It wasn't eight months.

02:55:21.236 --> 02:55:22.556
It was five years, eight months.

02:55:26.306 --> 02:55:34.220
But, uh, yeah, it was, it was, it was more like I wanted to have a relationship and I wanted to spend time with her for the rest of my life.

02:55:35.021 --> 02:55:38.861
And there was something super strong calling me to be with her.

02:55:38.941 --> 02:55:41.950
Uh, everything that, that Juli is now.

02:55:42.290 --> 02:55:47.855
So when that, that time came, I was just like, I want to love this way.

02:55:47.865 --> 02:55:48.406
Express it.

02:55:48.605 --> 02:55:49.765
This is how I want to love.

02:55:49.845 --> 02:55:50.095
Yeah.

02:55:50.206 --> 02:55:57.095
Like if you see a bandwidth of internet nowadays, I want to, I want to have all these huge gigs.

02:55:57.095 --> 02:55:58.865
And I was like on 128.

02:55:58.865 --> 02:56:03.524
It was like, yeah, 14.

02:56:03.525 --> 02:56:05.706
4 robotics.

02:56:05.706 --> 02:56:11.135
I was downloading the email for 15 minutes and Juan was like watching the movie at that point.

02:56:11.135 --> 02:56:12.095
He's already in the honeymoon.

02:56:12.286 --> 02:56:13.956
It was coming from cheating guys.

02:56:15.126 --> 02:56:16.396
I didn't want to be that.

02:56:16.456 --> 02:56:18.206
I was, I don't like that part.

02:56:18.515 --> 02:56:25.915
Uh, and, and it took me a minute to get rid of the, and I was like, you know, one of the woman, one of the good things about the world today is that.

02:56:27.316 --> 02:56:42.675
Average, a little better than average half ass guys can get awesome women because there aren't that many above us You know, it's sad and good for those of us that are slightly above average Not at all.

02:56:42.685 --> 02:57:02.581
Let's share the the loco experience So the craziest story that you guys would like to share either solo or together Um, with our listening audience, could be an event, could be a near death experience, could be like, I'm sure you've got some Colombian, uh, stories you said you were in danger at times.

02:57:02.591 --> 02:57:03.171
Yes.

02:57:03.470 --> 02:57:04.290
So, okay.

02:57:04.460 --> 02:57:04.861
Let's talk.

02:57:04.890 --> 02:57:06.531
Uh, that's actually really interesting.

02:57:06.531 --> 02:57:07.140
I just was.

02:57:07.486 --> 02:57:10.435
I was touching those subjects with my mom when I was visiting.

02:57:11.025 --> 02:57:17.456
Um, I think my craziest experience from that time of my life, and it seems like it was pulled out of a movie.

02:57:17.495 --> 02:57:19.626
It was, um, I was in my bedroom.

02:57:19.865 --> 02:57:22.185
I was probably nine years old.

02:57:22.681 --> 02:57:26.990
eight years old, you know, I was never able to sleep with my mom cause I'm a horrible sleeper.

02:57:26.990 --> 02:57:30.070
Like I would put your knee, my knees in your back the rest of the night.

02:57:31.261 --> 02:57:35.441
So my mom, as she was, as soon as she was able to, I think she's like, you're getting your own room.

02:57:35.441 --> 02:57:39.331
So I was very little and I was already sleeping in my room and my mom's room was across from the hall.

02:57:39.341 --> 02:57:39.611
Right.

02:57:40.130 --> 02:57:41.720
So I was sleeping, blah, blah, blah.

02:57:41.751 --> 02:57:50.700
And I just remember it was probably three in the morning and we started hearing, there was like, Like, almost like war just happened to break.

02:57:50.700 --> 02:57:51.560
Shots, shots, shots.

02:57:51.761 --> 02:57:53.897
Outside, but it was like boom, boom, boom, boom.

02:57:53.897 --> 02:57:54.691
Doom, doom, doom, doom.

02:57:54.691 --> 02:57:55.530
Da da da da da.

02:57:55.531 --> 02:58:02.130
It was like, all kinds of fires, all kinds of weapons being fired at the house behind my house.

02:58:02.161 --> 02:58:02.460
Woah.

02:58:02.876 --> 02:58:10.626
And this is, like, I always tell Juan this story, and I'm like, you don't think, I'm, I wasn't living in a rough neighborhood, I was living, like, Yeah, you were away from the chaos.

02:58:10.636 --> 02:58:16.236
I was in a, in a really nice neighborhood, very residential like, schools nearby, the usual.

02:58:16.306 --> 02:58:22.771
The shitty part was that, The drug dealers that were doing the shitty things were also living in the nice neighborhoods.

02:58:22.771 --> 02:58:23.570
They had nice houses too.

02:58:23.570 --> 02:58:24.370
They had nice houses too.

02:58:25.261 --> 02:58:29.290
I was friends with their kids, you know, it was just, you never knew until you knew.

02:58:29.320 --> 02:58:35.740
And that day, I just remember all of this noise and suddenly obviously you're waking up by what the hell is happening.

02:58:36.230 --> 02:58:44.740
I just remember my mom grabbing me from probably pulling me from my pyjama, my hair, whatever she had and dragging me into the bathroom with.

02:58:44.970 --> 02:58:56.890
And a lot of America is normal that you have, um, people that help you, they live in your houses to like, to help you raise your kids like a maid, but they become like part of your like a, almost like an opera, let's put it like that.

02:58:57.261 --> 02:58:59.431
So I remember my mom pulling me into the bathroom.

02:58:59.431 --> 02:59:07.011
And before I even realized Maria Teresa, she came running from downstairs upstairs, screaming, obviously in panic and the three of us.

02:59:07.710 --> 02:59:09.070
Close the door to the bathroom.

02:59:09.081 --> 02:59:20.540
My mom pulled the mattress from her, from her, from her bed and put it against the door because everything in the bathroom was cement or concrete, which is how we build in Latin America.

02:59:20.841 --> 02:59:24.290
And then the mattress, but all the bullets were, you could hear them.

02:59:24.661 --> 02:59:26.810
Bounce off the walls of our house.

02:59:27.361 --> 02:59:29.730
Well, the windows were shattered.

02:59:30.320 --> 02:59:47.845
This was like 30 45 minutes Oh shit of us in the bathroom crying the three of us just not knowing what the hell was gonna happen Obviously, I think we slept on the bathroom until it was clear and we couldn't hear anything and the Sun started rising and you get out of the bathroom and The windows are shattered.

02:59:47.876 --> 02:59:51.406
We had bullets in our living room, in my bedroom, in my mom's bedroom.

02:59:51.945 --> 02:59:58.296
The thing is that the, the guy that was the second hand of Pablo Escobar back then was living behind us.

02:59:58.935 --> 03:00:03.765
So they did a raid in his house, obviously trying to get him.

03:00:03.915 --> 03:00:04.665
the government authorities?

03:00:04.695 --> 03:00:06.515
This is like the military.

03:00:06.835 --> 03:00:07.476
They didn't get him?

03:00:07.765 --> 03:00:08.435
They did.

03:00:08.445 --> 03:00:15.306
And they, he was obviously, Um, yeah, unfortunately, probably like, like they did to Pablo Escobar.

03:00:15.306 --> 03:00:21.656
I mean, they all go through the same fate, but it's really hard to know that those are the kids that you were playing with.

03:00:21.865 --> 03:00:24.675
That is the mom that, cause those are, that's your community.

03:00:24.675 --> 03:00:31.125
You don't know until you know, but he was, he was a guy that you would be like, Hey, Mr.

03:00:31.126 --> 03:00:32.286
And I remember that.

03:00:32.286 --> 03:00:38.671
And when I, I mean, when I think about those things that I'm on, that's crazy People actually go through those life experiences.

03:00:38.671 --> 03:00:44.031
And like that one, it was the police station getting blown out every two weeks in my neighborhood.

03:00:44.281 --> 03:00:59.091
It was a bomb in the commercial and like in foothills, they would put bombs in the parking lots just to blow up cars of politicians or just to mess with the community or to do bad things to people that they knew were going to those places.

03:00:59.431 --> 03:01:01.650
And that was kind of a recurrent thing in my life.

03:01:01.650 --> 03:01:07.390
And I don't think i've ever lived it Anything as crazy or extreme as that.

03:01:07.390 --> 03:01:09.671
That is my loco experience for sure.

03:01:10.570 --> 03:01:12.200
I don't think I have a loco experience.

03:01:13.591 --> 03:01:14.941
I think we should wrap it up right there.

03:01:14.941 --> 03:01:21.950
I should have gone first.

03:01:21.950 --> 03:01:23.174
No, no.

03:01:23.174 --> 03:01:27.459
I know which one you should say.

03:01:27.459 --> 03:01:30.520
The one with the cenote.

03:01:31.161 --> 03:01:31.531
I like that one.

03:01:31.540 --> 03:01:34.011
Uh, my Your, your near death experience?

03:01:34.011 --> 03:01:34.260
Near death experience.

03:01:34.261 --> 03:01:35.661
Oh, well that's always worthy.

03:01:36.341 --> 03:01:43.521
Um, I guess at some point we started doing, uh, we used to live near the ocean and, uh, in Playa del Carmen.

03:01:43.521 --> 03:01:45.771
I've been to some of the cenotes in Cancun.

03:01:45.781 --> 03:01:46.130
Exactly.

03:01:46.540 --> 03:01:49.820
The underground caves that have rivers flowing through them.

03:01:49.831 --> 03:01:54.230
The meteor Came to Yucatan, hit, and that's, and that's it.

03:01:54.421 --> 03:01:56.911
Just kind of impacted, uh, melted.

03:01:56.911 --> 03:01:59.300
All these limestone, it's like all broken up.

03:01:59.351 --> 03:02:01.261
Everything, just all the bottles and whatever.

03:02:01.300 --> 03:02:02.880
I mean, there's nothing to build on hardly down there, right?

03:02:02.890 --> 03:02:04.081
No, it's just all limestone.

03:02:04.351 --> 03:02:06.740
Like, you gotta go down long ways before you can put a foundation down.

03:02:06.980 --> 03:02:11.441
And it's, and it's all like, uh, a circuit that it just flows all around.

03:02:11.450 --> 03:02:14.181
And so, yeah, there's no rivers on the top of the ground.

03:02:14.191 --> 03:02:15.671
They're all underground.

03:02:15.671 --> 03:02:19.771
That's why the trees, for example, only grow a certain height because it's all hydroponia.

03:02:19.781 --> 03:02:20.171
Right.

03:02:20.181 --> 03:02:20.990
Natural hydroponia.

03:02:21.040 --> 03:02:21.431
Right.

03:02:21.441 --> 03:02:24.771
So they break this all and they go straight into the water.

03:02:24.771 --> 03:02:27.856
And the river is 15 feet down below the roof of this oil.

03:02:27.856 --> 03:02:28.766
It's super cool.

03:02:28.766 --> 03:02:29.480
It's beautiful.

03:02:29.490 --> 03:02:32.351
But a lot of people die because these are caves.

03:02:32.581 --> 03:02:36.319
Without any type of, you know, and running water and all that, and it's all done.

03:02:36.320 --> 03:02:39.060
We used to, uh, we used to go like in reverse.

03:02:39.060 --> 03:02:45.890
Let's say we'll go into the, into the, the, the caves and we'll find bubbles from the, from the actual divers.

03:02:46.120 --> 03:02:46.611
Oh yeah.

03:02:46.681 --> 03:02:48.911
And we will just kind of like backwards.

03:02:49.031 --> 03:02:51.810
So the water will push you up and you will like jump.

03:02:52.396 --> 03:02:53.115
In the water.

03:02:53.115 --> 03:02:53.161
Oh dang.

03:02:53.355 --> 03:02:54.075
And suck.

03:02:54.075 --> 03:02:55.095
Breathe the bubble.

03:02:55.425 --> 03:02:59.865
And then you will go and like crawl and breathe the other bubble and you will cross.

03:02:59.865 --> 03:03:01.240
So this is, this is free diving with no tanks.

03:03:01.271 --> 03:03:02.445
This is just free diving.

03:03:02.536 --> 03:03:03.976
This is you in Playa.

03:03:04.636 --> 03:03:05.175
Like this is us.

03:03:05.175 --> 03:03:05.720
Like I did that.

03:03:05.806 --> 03:03:06.675
I was, did was feeding.

03:03:06.855 --> 03:03:07.126
Yes.

03:03:07.126 --> 03:03:09.376
But this was not something that I would do every eight days.

03:03:09.376 --> 03:03:11.956
Like this was a common thing for Juan when I did that.

03:03:11.956 --> 03:03:13.001
I was peeing in my pants.

03:03:13.005 --> 03:03:13.605
I love water.

03:03:13.636 --> 03:03:14.775
Water is the thing for me.

03:03:14.775 --> 03:03:18.046
And like even in the house, I have a stock tank that I, we built.

03:03:18.226 --> 03:03:18.556
Okay.

03:03:18.556 --> 03:03:21.001
And uh, whenever I need, I just get in the water and I calm myself.

03:03:21.751 --> 03:03:27.505
Uh, so, We used to go and hunt for these holes that go super deep.

03:03:28.105 --> 03:03:31.425
And only some, some, uh, certain light can go up into it.

03:03:31.435 --> 03:03:33.456
And we used to do it in the oceans also.

03:03:33.456 --> 03:03:39.656
And, and then, uh, with, uh, my sister, ex husband, he was a really good friend of mine.

03:03:40.175 --> 03:03:43.355
And we used to just kind of hunt them and go in the coordinate.

03:03:43.355 --> 03:03:43.566
Yeah.

03:03:43.716 --> 03:03:45.845
We were seeking out the best, just having fun.

03:03:45.845 --> 03:03:55.015
You know, you're thinking everything just going down fun apneas of, of uh, will practice and you'll like go down for, I don't know, two minutes and a minute and a half.

03:03:55.015 --> 03:03:56.575
Is it like bubbles coming from them or something?

03:03:56.575 --> 03:03:57.325
How do you find them?

03:03:57.325 --> 03:03:58.495
He is just on a map or something.

03:03:58.495 --> 03:03:59.005
Yeah.

03:03:59.005 --> 03:03:59.966
A lot of people like you.

03:04:00.210 --> 03:04:04.226
The one that Hess telling you hiking trails or climbs around Colorado kind of thing.

03:04:04.255 --> 03:04:09.825
The one that he's telling you think that you're, let's say that you're hiking on a, on a forest, right?

03:04:10.130 --> 03:04:21.851
And before you even know it, there's a cenote, which is literally a hole in the ground that the soil cave down and you can see, but sometimes from the soil to the river, it may be 15 feet.

03:04:21.851 --> 03:04:27.171
Sometime it may be 30, sometime it may be 45 and this motherfuckers would jump from the top.

03:04:27.601 --> 03:04:29.720
Oh, and trust that this cenote was deep enough.

03:04:29.790 --> 03:04:32.281
So, and they would like, that's what they would do.

03:04:32.281 --> 03:04:38.781
So some of these holes were not necessarily the ones that you go on the ground, but you just jump into the two that goes down.

03:04:38.841 --> 03:04:40.540
Assume for the best at the bottom.

03:04:40.931 --> 03:04:41.611
Yeah, I guess.

03:04:41.681 --> 03:04:44.691
I mean, you didn't think a lot about it.

03:04:44.751 --> 03:04:46.441
They were not thinking a lot, clearly.

03:04:46.521 --> 03:04:53.130
We found, we went and we found this cenote, very small cenote, but, uh, um, probably like four feet wide.

03:04:53.130 --> 03:05:00.101
Um, And, um, and, and we decided to, it was just kind straight down, just like a tube.

03:05:00.206 --> 03:05:00.406
A tunnel.

03:05:00.425 --> 03:05:00.845
Tunnel.

03:05:00.845 --> 03:05:04.001
So you like going down this tube, like, like a tunnel just wiggling down it?

03:05:04.031 --> 03:05:05.681
Yeah, maybe six feet, uh, at most.

03:05:05.681 --> 03:05:10.081
But, so, you know, you have the, the large fans and the whole thing.

03:05:10.351 --> 03:05:11.640
So we started going a circle tube.

03:05:11.640 --> 03:05:12.300
You're all set.

03:05:12.720 --> 03:05:19.441
We, we, we we went down and we started, like my friend went up, went down, and I wait for him halfway.

03:05:19.441 --> 03:05:21.825
So when he comes out, we spot each other and then we just kinda.

03:05:22.560 --> 03:05:23.771
Like go all the way to the top.

03:05:23.771 --> 03:05:35.011
So when I went down, it was just a long way down and we were just, you know, you just kind of calm yourself and you're kind of sucking up all the beautiful, it's such a beautiful part of our meditating.

03:05:35.361 --> 03:05:35.540
Yeah.

03:05:35.540 --> 03:05:36.300
You're meditating.

03:05:36.300 --> 03:05:39.081
You're just totally different scene there as you're going down.

03:05:39.460 --> 03:05:41.150
It's like being in an anthill virtually.

03:05:41.441 --> 03:05:44.861
Basically you're crawling where you shouldn't fucking be crawling or swimming down.

03:05:44.921 --> 03:05:50.021
And eventually about 30 feet down that thing opened up like in a bowl.

03:05:50.161 --> 03:05:51.351
Now you're talking about under the water.

03:05:51.351 --> 03:05:51.640
Yeah.

03:05:52.075 --> 03:05:52.695
Under the water.

03:05:53.255 --> 03:06:01.046
He was already going down for a couple of feet down with the tunnel and then he found the water here and you swim down in the tunnel.

03:06:01.046 --> 03:06:01.915
And you swim through the tube.

03:06:02.216 --> 03:06:03.015
Through the water.

03:06:03.095 --> 03:06:04.935
So you go through the water all the time.

03:06:04.945 --> 03:06:06.345
And then the cave opens up.

03:06:06.345 --> 03:06:08.546
And then we found this cave and there was like light coming.

03:06:08.546 --> 03:06:09.406
Do you have oxygen?

03:06:09.415 --> 03:06:09.626
No.

03:06:09.626 --> 03:06:10.976
No, this is free diving.

03:06:10.976 --> 03:06:11.986
This is all free diving.

03:06:12.115 --> 03:06:16.435
And we got, and I got there and there was only room for one on each path.

03:06:16.566 --> 03:06:20.665
So I got down there and it was so fucking majestically beautiful.

03:06:20.736 --> 03:06:24.536
That suddenly I got mesmerized by the moment.

03:06:25.191 --> 03:06:32.101
And before I realized, I remember that I still, that I still had to go up 30 feet and I didn't have enough oxygen anymore.

03:06:32.601 --> 03:06:35.740
So, uh, you know, fuck it, calm yourself.

03:06:35.831 --> 03:06:38.810
And you just, I started just going up and going up.

03:06:39.161 --> 03:06:42.751
Luckily, you know, air expands as you go up, so it helped a little bit of that.

03:06:42.911 --> 03:06:43.240
Okay.

03:06:43.370 --> 03:06:44.870
But, uh, I started going up.

03:06:44.870 --> 03:06:45.990
You just floated up in this cave.

03:06:46.331 --> 03:06:48.990
Oh, you're just going cenote that you came down.

03:06:49.050 --> 03:06:53.290
Yeah, I'm trying to go up from the hole that I, what I have enough energy to actually swim.

03:06:53.331 --> 03:06:54.304
I didn't have enough, enough air.

03:06:54.304 --> 03:06:55.111
I didn't have enough air.

03:06:55.345 --> 03:06:56.486
Like my air was gone.

03:06:57.316 --> 03:06:58.825
You only have X amount depending.

03:06:58.825 --> 03:06:58.976
No.

03:06:58.976 --> 03:07:22.195
So I was going up and before I know, I started remembering like, like ants crawling all over me, like just vibration, just very like, and then I started hearing a song, uh, that like just a song that I was bouncing in my head and it was just like, um, kind of like a Coldplay song and it was just bouncing everywhere.

03:07:22.700 --> 03:07:35.781
And before I knew it, literally, I was just like all white and wherever I was, it was like literally just a little time of nothingness.

03:07:36.771 --> 03:07:41.271
And then I was like, fuck, you're trying to get up to the, to the surface of this fucking water.

03:07:41.630 --> 03:07:43.931
And here I am looking at this white light.

03:07:44.341 --> 03:07:48.091
Yeah, I kinda, when that thing came, that thought came into my mind.

03:07:48.656 --> 03:08:02.316
I remember just like grabbing the air and you were up there and I was up there and my friend was holding me and I was just like, uh, he saw me going up and he was like, just I, my eyes, I was gone already, but I was still swimming up.

03:08:02.726 --> 03:08:03.945
Like he literally lost.

03:08:04.495 --> 03:08:04.685
Yeah.

03:08:04.685 --> 03:08:04.925
Yeah.

03:08:05.335 --> 03:08:05.495
Yeah.

03:08:05.495 --> 03:08:06.876
You probably died.

03:08:07.105 --> 03:08:10.206
Like if, if he wasn't close enough to the surface.

03:08:10.255 --> 03:08:10.456
Yeah.

03:08:10.456 --> 03:08:10.695
Yeah.

03:08:11.005 --> 03:08:12.105
Another, another five seconds.

03:08:12.345 --> 03:08:16.646
Probably that, that, that gulp of water of, of air would have been water.

03:08:16.855 --> 03:08:17.126
Right.

03:08:17.185 --> 03:08:19.156
And I probably would have just drowned there.

03:08:19.316 --> 03:08:19.646
Yeah.

03:08:19.665 --> 03:08:21.995
So that was probably, that's pretty intense.

03:08:22.005 --> 03:08:22.816
My most intense.

03:08:22.816 --> 03:08:24.206
I've never been that close to death.

03:08:24.265 --> 03:08:27.075
Like I've been close to death quite a few times, but not that close.

03:08:27.195 --> 03:08:28.956
That was, that was, that was fun.

03:08:30.255 --> 03:08:30.775
Do it again.

03:08:31.525 --> 03:08:32.195
That was fun.

03:08:33.265 --> 03:08:34.185
No, would you do it again?

03:08:34.605 --> 03:08:35.566
Would you do it again?

03:08:35.695 --> 03:08:37.066
Uh, I would do it more carefully.

03:08:37.665 --> 03:08:38.935
Right, with an oxygen tank.

03:08:38.995 --> 03:08:40.226
Yeah, I would do it more carefully.

03:08:40.226 --> 03:08:41.835
Maybe with a backup tiny oxygen tank.

03:08:41.835 --> 03:08:42.796
Right, something.

03:08:42.855 --> 03:08:43.466
Yeah.

03:08:43.466 --> 03:08:44.884
Something just a little something.

03:08:44.884 --> 03:08:46.584
Exactly, just a tiny oxygen tank.

03:08:46.585 --> 03:08:49.306
You know, that, that, that's fun, but peyote is are more fun.

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So I would do peyote again.

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It's safer for the next one.

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Peyote is way safer.

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You can go through the tunnel without losing your life.

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Yes.

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So, um, for our listeners, uh, that want to follow.

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hire you guys for their best catering experience, food experience ever.

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Uh, where would they go?

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Uh, you can go to our website at, uh, huliehuan.

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com.

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You can Google and just put Hulie Y.

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Y Juan.

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Y Juan's Kitchen.

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I am sure that it will come out there and just, you know, fill up a form and we'll be, hopefully we'll, we'll be more than happy to.

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if you look us up from four columns, if you put Hulie.

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Kitchen, Juan's Kitchen, I'm sure we are the first ones that will publish.

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Well, and if you go to a spring event, like, Act now, cause it won't be open pretty soon.

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That's true, you never know how much you got.

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Yeah, no, it's fine.

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We're, we're, we're, we're in a little bit of a transition, uh, where we're trying to reinvent a little bit of what we do.

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Okay.

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Uh, we've been We've been Before we close?

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Yeah, if I can.

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We'll just keep coming in.

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All right, cool.

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Uh, we've been trying to, we've been in the wedding industry for 10 years basically and as much as we love it and everything and it's fantastic and it's wonderful, um, we're also missing the other side.

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Every event is intense.

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Every mom is intense.

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We're missing the community of the little events.

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Yeah.

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Our industry, we say the wedding industry is very jealous.

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So it only allows you to do weddings.

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And we miss doing other things besides weddings.

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So we're trying to figure it out a way where, uh, business wise, where we can continue to, uh, you know, pass along, let's say, create something that we can create better experiences for people in the wedding industry.

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But also have, uh, the things that Juli and I are missing, which is, you know, it's just smaller events with friends and houses, pop ups and beers here and there, jump a little bit more in the creative side, less computer, less computer, more, more cooking, you know, things like that.

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So we're very interested.

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We're excited about what's coming.

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We don't know how it is going to happen, but we, we know just believe in it.

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Trust move forward.

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You know, we know definitely that instead of doing, let's say more weddings that Juan and I will be there in each wedding.

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We're trying to transition into the community that is looking for good experiences.

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And weddings can still have our food without the need to have us, because there's only two of us.

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But we know the need for food is bigger than just the two of us.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So we're trying to.

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Find a way to fulfill that part.

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Yeah, well, it'll take, it'll be a little different model, right?

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Because part of the value proposition is when you're there, but also your food is killer.

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Thank you! I'll try to impress you when we have you over for dinner.

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Yay! Wait, Loco Moco?

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There you go.

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We'll do it.

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I already learned the name.

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So you're screwed.

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I'm on it like a bonnet.

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No, hey, thanks.

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Thanks for having me.

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This to be our longest podcast, uh, so far.

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So, uh, be proud of that.

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Thanks guys.

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Thank you so much.

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so much.

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Bye for now.

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It's an honor to be here.

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Appreciate it.

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