EXPERIENCE 176 | Diversification, Innovation, and Generations - Kevin Fiske and Brittany McCahan, Father and Daughter, and CEO and Director of Marketing and Culture at Fiske Electric

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In today's episode of the Loco Experience Podcast, I had the pleasure of getting to know Kevin Fiske and Brittany McCann from Fiske Electric.

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Fiske is an electrical design and contracting business with a home base just outside Loveland and clients all across Northern Colorado, the Western U.

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S., and occasionally internationally.

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They have a highly diversified service offering, ranging from adding a new outlet and a garage for a homeowner, to a residential subdivisions and commercial and tech installations, And also have a large presence in the agricultural sector.

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Having recently completed work on the largest robotic dairy operation in the U S kevin is the third leader of Fisk Electric, which was founded by his uncle Virgil in 1977.

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Kevin moved to Colorado from Alaska in 1984 to join the team.

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And soon after became a partner, and the business was subsequently managed by Virgil's son, Clifford, beginning in 1996.

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Kevin ascended to leadership and majority ownership in 2016, and Brittany joined the company in 2019.

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In five short years, she has been key to modernizing Fisk's image online, renovating their HR functions, and maintaining a culture of excellence and integrity while growing their team in a challenging labor market.

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Today's conversation explores what it takes for a business to ascend to middle market scale over time, and what it means to be a part of a multi generational family enterprise.

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Brittany's status as heir apparent was earned, not granted, a fact that became increasingly obvious as we continued this conversation.

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And pride in both father and daughter in being part of this legacy family enterprise is pronounced throughout the conversation.

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And so please enjoy, as I did, my talk with Kevin Fiske and Brittany McCann Meme, meme, meme, meme.

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Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

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Welcome back to the loco experience podcast.

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I'm here today with Kevin Fisk, as well as Brittany McCann, McCann.

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And, uh, they are father daughter and on the leadership team of Fisk electric.

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Uh, at all here in Northern Colorado.

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So, um, Kevin, you're the CEO, president, owner, uh, and that kind of stuff.

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How long have you been involved with the organization?

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So I started in 1984.

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Okay.

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Um, my uncle founded the company in 77, uh, with his son and then I came in an 84 and, and we bought my uncle out in 96.

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And then I bought my cousin out in.

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16 maybe 20 15 something like that.

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Yeah, and Brittany how about for you?

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I mean, I'm I imagine you were probably Toddling around there when you were just a little one probably too, but how long have you been involved in the business?

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I Started full time in 2019.

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I did do a couple summer things odd jobs here and there like, okay recalking the Old shop and painting and pulling weeds.

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More like summer labor.

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Right.

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Underpaid summer labor.

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And out in the job too.

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She had to spend some time out there, uh, learning how to trim houses and stuff like that.

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So, yeah.

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In the field.

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And, and Brittany, you were kind of the marketing and culture you were, you were telling me before we got started here.

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Yeah, that's uh, definitely more what my role is now.

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I feel like being a smaller company, we have to wear a lot of different hats.

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So, a lot of times it's whatever I'm told to do is, is it.

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Can you get this done?

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Right.

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Because I know a lot of times when I ask you to get something done, it gets done.

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Yep.

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Can you figure this out?

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Google is my best friend for sure.

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Yeah, that's uh, one of the prizes of having millennials and Gen Zs on your team is that they might not know how to do things, but the good ones can know where to find it really easy.

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Yeah.

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Oh, and that's it.

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I mean, the industry's changed so much.

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We used to just slap an ad in the paper to hire people and it's not like that anymore.

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So she handles all that stuff for us as well.

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That's awesome.

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So does that include some like HR recruiting and stuff too?

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Or do you have an HR team?

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Um, no, we really don't have an HR team.

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We have a couple people that wear different hats within the HR kind of umbrella, but.

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Um, as far as the recruiting, the job postings, working a lot with the local high schools, um, trying to connect with kids coming out of, of high school that want to join the trades and figure out how to connect with them earlier.

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Yeah.

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Well, I imagine you're easier to connect with than stuffy old white guys like your father here.

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That's right.

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Um, let's talk about Fisk.

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Uh, what, uh, can you give me an overview kind of Kevin of, of what the company does?

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Because I was surprised to, to.

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No, such a large company was flying under my radar and it's not large, you know, on a national scale, but yeah.

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Um, yeah.

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Tell me more.

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So yeah, it all started in ancient Greece.

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I'm just kidding.

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Um, yeah, we started in 77, but I mean the, the foundations, my, uh, my dad's oldest brother, um, responded to an ad in a magazine back in the forties, um, to repair, um, radios during World War II.

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And, uh, they were living over on the Western slope and, uh, and that just kind of led to one thing.

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And then he started an electrical business and got certified and, and all the brothers, um, followed eventually, except my dad.

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My dad worked summers and went to college and became a school teacher.

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Okay.

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Um, but yeah, that's what started it.

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And my uncle was a electrician for a big company in Denver for 20 years.

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And, and instead of retiring, he decided to start Fisk Electric in 77.

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So, yeah.

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And really had a bunch of little Fisks running around there, medium sized Fisks for a while.

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Sounds like, yeah, there was lots of, lots of Fisks kind of came through and some stuck and some didn't.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, my cousin joined right away with my Uncle Virg, and, uh, really that was, that was the start of Fisk Electric.

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Well, we can, uh, come back to the, kind of, growth journey some, but, like, tell me about the company today.

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Who, who are your clients?

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What kind of projects do you do?

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Uh, I imagine there's a very diverse assortment?

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Probably sometimes.

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I mean, you know, that whole leading ed bleeding edge thing.

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Um, we bleed a lot, but we try to really look for emerging technologies and see if it's something that we can be interested in and, and how that would fit into an electrical company or something that would be close.

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So, um, we've worked with, you know, a lot of different aspects of that.

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I think what, what scared me, um, was obviously the eighties were, were a trying time.

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Um, And, you know, interest rates and stuff was tough, and then we kind of moved into the next major calamity was 9 11.

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Right.

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We were working a lot with residential at that time, and the national builders all just kind of packed up and went home.

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Just kind of, like, installing residential electric service.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And so from that point on, we really, we were a commercial company before that and went to residential because we saw a bigger opportunity.

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There was so much demand for so long.

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Yep, and then just kind of evolved into, you know, my fear was not being diverse enough.

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And so probably everyone else's fear is that I'm probably too diverse now.

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But I really didn't want to be pigeonholed into one industry.

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So we've got multiple divisions of the company and we, we start them and sometimes they're successful and sometimes we kind of have to table them until, you know, it becomes around, but we've got, uh, we do a lot with healthcare.

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Okay.

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Um, we do a lot in agriculture.

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Um, my grandfather was a dairy farmer, my wife's dad was a dairy farmer, and so we kind of got drug into the agriculture side of that.

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Okay.

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Does that include, like, not just dairies, but also, like, irrigation systems?

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Absolutely.

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Need a lot of electricity and whatnot too, I suppose?

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Yeah.

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Anything, you know, agricultural related that needs electricity, we try to be involved in.

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Okay.

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Um, and that's kind of brought us around globally to all kinds of opportunities.

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I mean, we worked in vertical farming, um, and have traveled around the world working with companies that are developing machines to grow, you know, more crops and sprouted greens with just water.

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No, you know, no dirt, no fertilizer.

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They call it controlled, uh, agriculture, basically controlled environmental agriculture.

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Um, so that's been a big part.

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Um, we've got the world's largest, uh, robotic dairy farm here in Colorado under one roof.

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Okay.

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So we Where's that at?

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That's, uh, just outside of Pierce.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So not far if we want to go take a tour.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Um, and we'll come back to some of your clients, but Brittany, what, uh, what's your favorite?

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Like, cause you're marketing too, right?

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So you're helping to connect with them.

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These different client types in agriculture and in whatever, no longer residential, have you skipped out of that marketplace a little bit?

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No, not at all.

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You still do it if you want?

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Or if they, if they want, yeah.

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It's, it's a major foundation for us.

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I mean, mainline electrical will always kind of be the foundation of our company.

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Okay, okay.

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And we just, gives us the opportunity to branch out.

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Yeah, I feel like it's hard to pick just ones.

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They're all so different.

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I mean, you kind of have a different in consumer.

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So marketing is different totally doing a single family home where they're doing a fully custom, you know, multimillion dollar home.

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It's it's a little bit different to try and advertise towards them versus a hospital versus a dairy farm.

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They all kind of different needs and and so that's it's hard to choose.

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But I would say My favorite project that I've been working on recently is on the ag side of things.

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We've noticed that, uh, breweries, distilleries and wineries all have a lot of the similar like equipment and machinery and the same techniques.

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And so our, group of techs can easily swap over to that.

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So it's been fun to try and figure out what those guys are looking for and, and how we can translate what we currently have and advertise that we can offer that for them.

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So now are you a construction company mostly, or do you also do service calls and maintain the systems that you've installed?

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Especially agricultural.

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We have a, a, uh, that does more industrial refrigeration type stuff.

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So we have to be able to transport the milk and cool the milk and store the milk.

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Um, and that's, what's kind of led to some of this other stuff.

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Very same exact brands for, um, some of these micro breweries and that kind of thing, um, malting process.

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And we've done a lot of, uh, You know, from the storage where it comes out of the field to even the stuff that needs to be refrigerated and held for a long time.

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And so, we not only put those systems in and sell some of the equipment, but we maintain it.

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Talk to me about, um, like I must, I'm going to guess here that even though marketing is important, that most of your revenue comes from relationships, like long term relationships with people.

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These different kind of builders or things, general contractors are choosing you among their list of candidates to do this project, things like that.

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Um, like, Do you have a bunch of different kinds of like sales reps or how do you, like, how do you source it on that relationship side?

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Or do people contact you a lot?

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Like how, how, how do you, who makes it rain at Fisk?

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Mostly it's that, I mean, we just, we've been around long enough that people call it just rain.

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Yeah, it's great.

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I mean, it's, it's very odd, but we, we public bid some, but probably in the last 10, 15 years, very, maybe 20 percent of what we do is public bid.

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Most of the time it's design, build or design assist.

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Okay.

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And so.

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Companies will come to us and say they have a project on the horizon and we'll help them either develop the electrical side of that plan or just, you know, look at value engineering that we can bring to the table and maybe cheapen things up a little bit for them.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Um, like take me into like a customer journey a little bit if you, if you wouldn't mind, like, uh, say I'm a, Uh, I want to really upgrade and build out and maximize, maybe put in my robotic milkers that I've been longing for.

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Um, so, there, are they coming to, to you through a general contractor or something?

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Or sometimes the electric's the biggest, biggest provider?

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challenge.

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And so you're almost the lead contractor.

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A lot of times.

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That's it.

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You know, I think general contractors will contact us more on the commercial side.

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Sure.

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A fresh bill, but with a, uh, an ag side, you start to get more specialty.

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And so a lot of times we're contacted before any of the general contractors are.

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And, uh, we, one of our divisions is high plains robotics.

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We, we sell the equipment.

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as well.

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So the equipment is kind of picked first and then you design the project all the way around it.

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And, uh, so that's how it is.

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I mean, we go to trade shows and, and we're, you know, we have newsletters and things that we put out all the time.

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So dairy is a pretty small, it's a small community, even in the whole United States, but in Colorado, there's less than a hundred dairy farms.

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Oh, is that right?

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Yeah.

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It's it's, and it keeps getting smaller.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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So, um, And then so you get the proposal basically and then it's just a matter of sending, sending the field crew out.

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Yeah, they'll contact us and tell us kind of what they're looking for, um, different types of, of ways to harvest milk.

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So robots are just the newer way to do it.

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Um, and it's not that new.

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I mean, robot technology.

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requires a lot of electricity to cool it down after it's been harvested, et cetera.

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Yeah.

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So we sell, we sell the equipment.

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And then we'll install the equipment and they don't have to use us as the electrical contractor.

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Oh, interesting.

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Sometimes we'll do the electrical and not supply the equipment or vice versa.

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Sometimes we'll supply the equipment and there'll be an electrician that the family's worked with for a long time.

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And so we work with those guys and yeah, it's been great.

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Yeah.

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Brittany, what do you think about, uh, uh, just this environment?

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Probably you're working What's the, what's the boy girl count at, uh, at Fisk?

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Um, in the office, it's a little more even, so Fair enough.

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We're not totally outnumbered, but Yeah, definitely, when you get into the field, there's Much higher percentage of, of men.

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And did you go to college for marketing or for human resources or?

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Yeah.

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So how did you get in here?

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Background is I have a minor in advertising and so I guess backing up, I had no idea what I wanted to do.

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Yeah.

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I had to go to school.

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He made me go to college.

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Right.

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I played basketball too.

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So when they asked what I wanted to major in.

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Are you taller than your dad, by the way?

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A little bit.

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I thought maybe when you came in.

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No, but they asked like, what do you want to major in?

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And I'm like, basketball.

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Like, I don't know.

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And that wasn't an option.

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So we talked and he was like, be a teacher.

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You get summers off.

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It's great.

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I'm like, all right, well then I'll be an art teacher.

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Cause I can grade papers and not papers.

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Like, and so I, uh, I started to do that and then I took a marketing class and it all kind of clicked for me.

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Like the marketing, the advertising, you could combine your creativity with business and it all just kind of came together.

00:16:04.465 --> 00:16:10.004
So I got my minor in advertising and then I have a bachelor of fine arts in visual communication design.

00:16:10.115 --> 00:16:10.495
Okay.

00:16:10.804 --> 00:16:11.965
Kind of along the same lines.

00:16:11.985 --> 00:16:12.195
Yeah.

00:16:12.195 --> 00:16:12.485
Yeah.

00:16:12.965 --> 00:16:19.164
Well, and I mean, if you can connect with somebody psychologically through a picture, you don't have to use so many darn words.

00:16:19.315 --> 00:16:19.955
A hundred percent.

00:16:20.465 --> 00:16:20.754
Right.

00:16:21.115 --> 00:16:24.899
So, um, So let's just talk about that.

00:16:24.899 --> 00:16:27.230
Talk about your entry into the business proper.

00:16:27.230 --> 00:16:32.419
So you get this degree and then did you go start trying to teach somewhere or something?

00:16:32.429 --> 00:16:33.299
No, I didn't.

00:16:33.370 --> 00:16:34.690
It had nothing to do with teaching.

00:16:34.690 --> 00:16:38.809
After I figured out kind of the business side, I decided to do that.

00:16:39.899 --> 00:16:51.450
I worked at Fisk for a couple months, but he, he always pushed, dad always pushed us to go out and try other companies, like go out into the real world, gain experience, gain exposure.

00:16:51.929 --> 00:16:54.360
And if it works to come back to Fisk, great.

00:16:54.370 --> 00:16:56.019
If it doesn't, you know, that's fine.

00:16:56.340 --> 00:16:57.879
It's the door's always open.

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So I did go out, I did a couple of jobs where it was sports apparel design and product development, and it just happened to work out in 2019.

00:17:07.130 --> 00:17:12.910
My husband travels a lot for work and I was like, I need, I want something where I can travel with him and have a little bit more flexibility and.

00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:23.059
We had some opportunities at Fist finally to have some marketing, like for a long time, marketing wasn't a huge, a huge part of electrical contracting company.

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So, uh, he was like, Hey, I think, I think we have enough work that you could jump over and start doing that.

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And so I jumped over in 2019 and.

00:17:32.809 --> 00:17:34.029
Well, your website looks amazing.

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I don't know if you, if you built that or if you oversaw the construction of that.

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You built it?

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All you?

00:17:38.869 --> 00:17:39.039
Yeah.

00:17:39.384 --> 00:17:39.694
Dang.

00:17:39.724 --> 00:17:39.934
Yeah.

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What platform?

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Wix.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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It looks really good.

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Thanks.

00:17:43.805 --> 00:17:44.125
Yeah.

00:17:44.125 --> 00:17:44.535
Yeah.

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We're pretty proud.

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Yeah.

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I imagine.

00:17:46.345 --> 00:17:46.535
I imagine.

00:17:46.535 --> 00:17:48.484
It always seems silly for us to have a website.

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I mean, in my mind.

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Yeah.

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They just need the phone numbers where they can normally call us.

00:17:52.164 --> 00:17:55.444
But it's, the further we get, it's just amazing.

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It's a lot of times.

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Turns out this stuff works, kinda.

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Yeah.

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I mean, they hire us a lot of times because, like, they vet us.

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Right.

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Based on what our website looks like.

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Well, and honestly, if somebody doesn't know you, and they go to your website, and it looks like, you know, you're.

00:18:09.230 --> 00:18:17.509
Your neighbor's kid built it, and it just doesn't, doesn't work, you know, uh, it takes away a lot of credibility right away.

00:18:17.569 --> 00:18:18.450
Yeah, it really does.

00:18:19.289 --> 00:18:20.150
So, well, good for you.

00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.099
Do you get leads off the website now, too, and everything?

00:18:22.109 --> 00:18:22.549
Yeah.

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People contact us forms and whatnot?

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Yeah, it's been super fun.

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We finished our website.

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End of last year and it's like any website.

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I think we're constantly updating and adding to it but the last quarter we've really started to see a lot of Incoming contact us whether it's for Us to bid on a job or hey, we saw your truck around like can you come?

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Add an outlet to our garage or something all the way to applicants.

00:18:49.150 --> 00:18:53.619
So it's it's been really fun to see that Start to kind of turn over for us.

00:18:53.630 --> 00:18:59.910
And will you do all the way from adding an outlet in a garage all the way up to robot dairies and whatnot?

00:19:00.009 --> 00:19:02.920
Yeah, yeah, we've, uh, I mean, we've continued to grow.

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We were, when I bought the company from my cousin, we were 11 million gross revenue and we're, we've done about 24.

00:19:10.214 --> 00:19:12.055
Million in gross revenue the last couple of years.

00:19:12.065 --> 00:19:15.075
So substantial growth in that last seven years or whatever.

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And over a hundred employees through the last five years.

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I mean, we've been around 120, 130, um, which was another thing that the website brought for us is how do you communicate in a construction environment with 130 people that don't come to the office a lot of times.

00:19:29.214 --> 00:19:36.994
And so, you know, she's come up with the newsletter that we, we pump out every month, but employee portal is part of that.

00:19:36.994 --> 00:19:39.095
So you can log into our website and we can.

00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:47.089
Yeah, we changed, made a change to the 401k plan, check it out here, or whatever.

00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:57.990
That's pretty important, especially, you know, when you got 20, 30 people in a company or something, you can kind of have enough, connection, interconnection to have that cohesive culture.

00:19:57.990 --> 00:20:00.920
But if there isn't a home base, once you get a little bigger, it's tough.

00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:01.450
Yeah.

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And pre COVID we'd have meetings every Monday morning.

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Right.

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And then all of a sudden that went away and it's like, well, how do we get this safety information out?

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And I mean, you know, a lot of stuff we've just kind of.

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Had to figure out ourselves, but once we brought Brit on, um, which was right at the beginning of that, it was so great because she could figure out how we could get, I mean, every, it seemed like every day we had a new message about how to handle COVID this or that, or people lining up looking for the free money line.

00:20:29.670 --> 00:20:32.555
Where can we get this free money we saw on TV last night?

00:20:33.134 --> 00:20:38.694
Yeah, so being able to communicate with those guys is really kind of the genesis of why that was so important.

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We used to do a sheet called the razzle dazzle sheet that we would share with people like they say, Are you good enough or big enough to handle this hospital job?

00:20:46.704 --> 00:20:49.214
And so we would have to share with them kind of our history.

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Oh, here's some of our big stuff we've done and so we called it the razzle dazzle, but now they do all that on the on the website for us too, so.

00:20:56.365 --> 00:20:59.164
It seems like you might be kind of an idea girl, Brittany, is that?

00:20:59.785 --> 00:21:00.505
A true statement.

00:21:00.744 --> 00:21:01.105
Yeah.

00:21:01.105 --> 00:21:03.954
I probably tend to, to lean on that side.

00:21:04.015 --> 00:21:04.345
Yeah.

00:21:04.825 --> 00:21:11.214
Sometimes, uh, dad's kicking and screaming and it takes a little while for him to be convinced, but usually he sees the ideas are pretty good.

00:21:11.305 --> 00:21:12.384
He's come around.

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I feel like at first it was, what is his marketing crap like?

00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:16.674
I don't get it.

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And it's slowly.

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Like, let's do a website.

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Let's do this.

00:21:21.894 --> 00:21:22.474
Let's do that.

00:21:22.494 --> 00:21:23.875
And now he's starting to see it.

00:21:23.875 --> 00:21:25.494
Now he is just all on board.

00:21:25.505 --> 00:21:28.154
Like whatever you want to do, let's be run with it.

00:21:28.164 --> 00:21:29.914
So it's been fun on my side too.

00:21:30.144 --> 00:21:33.785
So talk to me about your, your, you said a little over a hundred employees.

00:21:33.785 --> 00:21:34.315
Is that right?

00:21:34.365 --> 00:21:34.674
Yeah.

00:21:34.954 --> 00:21:37.785
And like, talk to me about, there's probably like a HQ team.

00:21:37.785 --> 00:21:39.224
You mentioned the office team, right?

00:21:39.335 --> 00:21:43.265
Um, and then the field team and what are those functions?

00:21:43.265 --> 00:21:44.184
I imagine you've got like.

00:21:45.265 --> 00:21:48.234
You know, estimators and things like that, mostly in the office.

00:21:48.234 --> 00:21:49.275
Or is that part of the field team?

00:21:49.275 --> 00:21:51.865
You're talking about the kind of the, who's the crew?

00:21:51.944 --> 00:21:52.265
Sure.

00:21:52.585 --> 00:21:59.555
So, yeah, we, we pretty much have, uh, two, two directors, um, uh, residential and commercial.

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So it's basically my middle kid worked for us for about six years.

00:22:03.464 --> 00:22:08.805
And he kind of said, it's where the guys that are in charge of where people work and the guys that are in charge of where people live.

00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.190
And so those are the two directors, if you will.

00:22:11.470 --> 00:22:14.650
Then we have, um, our CFO handles all the financial stuff.

00:22:14.660 --> 00:22:22.269
Brittany handles all the marketing as well as, um, works with the safety group and, and does, you know, all of those things.

00:22:23.220 --> 00:22:24.789
And then, uh, we've got.

00:22:25.845 --> 00:22:27.964
Kind of the warehouse and material procurement.

00:22:27.964 --> 00:22:30.515
So that's kind of our main, our main team.

00:22:30.825 --> 00:22:32.684
And then under that project managers.

00:22:33.144 --> 00:22:38.494
And so in, in our organization, the project managers bid the work and they also manage the people that do the work.

00:22:38.505 --> 00:22:39.005
Okay.

00:22:39.224 --> 00:22:40.974
So there's not really an estimator per se.

00:22:41.414 --> 00:22:42.404
It's a bid process.

00:22:42.424 --> 00:22:45.404
But when the estimator went on vacation, it was just a disaster.

00:22:46.515 --> 00:22:48.984
You know, and to have them guys, the handoff is easier.

00:22:49.015 --> 00:22:51.125
I mean, you bid your own work, right?

00:22:51.265 --> 00:22:56.595
And so they, and then when you're managing that project and you see where you screwed up, well, maybe you won't screw up this time, right?

00:22:56.595 --> 00:22:57.444
No, it works great.

00:22:57.444 --> 00:23:03.835
So we've got five project managers and then multiple form and level that run typically the onsite project.

00:23:04.414 --> 00:23:13.644
Um, so when we were working on the introductions, you, uh, you introduced Brit as a, you know, the director of marketing and culture and kind of heir apparent as well.

00:23:14.105 --> 00:23:23.414
Um, Like was that something that Evolved like she just showed a lot of prowess for business and whatever.

00:23:23.414 --> 00:23:27.865
Or when she came on to the company in 2019, 2020, was it already a thought?

00:23:28.345 --> 00:23:30.634
I, I don't know if I had it as a thought for her.

00:23:30.634 --> 00:23:33.575
I wasn't sure what her interest level was, but I have two sons as well.

00:23:33.575 --> 00:23:37.285
And they've all worked inside the business and they've learned a lot.

00:23:37.295 --> 00:23:39.005
And my youngest son didn't go to college.

00:23:39.005 --> 00:23:42.265
He served his apprenticeship through Fisk and now he runs our dairy farm.

00:23:42.265 --> 00:23:43.625
So we own a dairy farm.

00:23:43.674 --> 00:23:44.015
Okay.

00:23:44.184 --> 00:23:45.484
And it's where his love is more.

00:23:45.494 --> 00:23:45.875
Yeah.

00:23:46.150 --> 00:24:00.079
And the middle, the middle son, um, he, he works with, he got his degree in economics and computer science, and he's found all kinds of opportunity in, in those, in those areas and helped us a ton at Fisk.

00:24:00.089 --> 00:24:07.029
But it really surprised me that Brit was interested in the Company business and I just see it's a I mean, it's a fantastic fit.

00:24:07.269 --> 00:24:14.000
Yeah Yeah, so I've got guys that run the electrical part Like I said, the director of residential and director of commercial Matt and Ryan there.

00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:32.980
I mean, they're awesome We've got what five guys that are that are just finishing their 25th year at Fisk so we have a lot of longevity and Those two guys along with the guy that runs our warehouse that have been just huge parts of what we do Um And it's just kind of fit in.

00:24:32.980 --> 00:24:35.700
I mean, she brings to the table what they have no clue and vice versa.

00:24:37.019 --> 00:24:52.460
What I think I'm hearing and like, in addition to the marketing culture, it's almost like an operations realm where, and a really good operations manager, like Fits or find us finds a solution for all the gaps that you might not even know you have.

00:24:52.549 --> 00:24:58.089
Yeah And that's not that you've got a big smile Well, and our CFO is amazing.

00:24:58.089 --> 00:25:06.500
I mean Lance he used to work in the Otter Box Organization has a lot of history from northern Colorado and his family was ag side.

00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:08.789
So it was this Amazing mix.

00:25:08.809 --> 00:25:09.740
Great mix of experience.

00:25:09.750 --> 00:25:14.009
Yeah, and he's just a great finance guy and that's not either one of really our strengths.

00:25:14.009 --> 00:25:16.160
So he's a perfect fit as well.

00:25:16.819 --> 00:25:19.059
Talk to me about, uh, that evolution.

00:25:19.069 --> 00:25:24.180
I'm sure, like, you didn't start with having a whole bunch of responsibilities placed on you.

00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:29.079
It was more about opportunities and then a growing list of responsibilities?

00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:29.829
Yeah, for sure.

00:25:29.829 --> 00:25:36.420
So I feel like, uh, Obviously you come in, electrical was not Necessarily like I grew up around it.

00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:37.190
So right.

00:25:37.329 --> 00:25:41.210
It wasn't foreign Uh certain but you hadn't been shocked too many times.

00:25:41.690 --> 00:25:46.890
No, no, no, no Still trying to stay away from that part Even the even your employees, right?

00:25:46.950 --> 00:25:52.630
No, um And I think it was just trying to find this balance of i'm not an electrician.

00:25:52.630 --> 00:25:54.029
So where can I bring value?

00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:59.144
And marketing was something we just like I said earlier, we didn't have anything like that.

00:25:59.154 --> 00:26:00.815
So that was a place I could bring value.

00:26:00.815 --> 00:26:05.375
And then it was like, okay, I think, I think I could help out with our hiring processes.

00:26:05.375 --> 00:26:06.875
I think I could clean this up.

00:26:06.875 --> 00:26:11.585
I think I could, you know, increase this or help with sales or business development.

00:26:11.585 --> 00:26:15.829
And it's just kind of ballooned into, you know, More and more hats.

00:26:15.829 --> 00:26:42.644
Yeah, yeah make it easier and easier for customers to say yes for Potential employees to say yes for existing employees to say yes to being engaged and motivated Yeah, the internal and external communications for that I mean there's Advertising internally which is kind of our culture right and figuring out what that looks like because I mean growing from a small I mean how many people were In the shop when you were running it.

00:26:42.644 --> 00:27:00.829
Yeah, it was the fifth employee So a completely different, you know Connection then when we have a hundred and fifteen employees, you know, I think there was one time he was downstairs with It was a Monday morning toolbox talk.

00:27:00.829 --> 00:27:02.539
And some guys like, Hey, are you new here?

00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.109
It's a really great place to work.

00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:09.410
Like, you know, so it just, that kind of shows you how much bigger we've gotten.

00:27:09.410 --> 00:27:13.900
That not everybody even knows his face or who he is when he's around.

00:27:13.900 --> 00:27:15.640
So, yeah, fair enough.

00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:16.099
Fair enough.

00:27:16.150 --> 00:27:16.319
Yeah.

00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.259
And I was in the army, so I didn't go to college, but, um, I went.

00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:27.369
to the Army for a short period of time and, and was really impressed with SOPs and how that they could, you know, just, it was kind of like the McDonald's model.

00:27:27.849 --> 00:27:34.039
It didn't matter really, you know, who you were, what you're hired and trained, you should be able to flip these burgers just the right way.

00:27:34.109 --> 00:27:37.394
And so I really wanted our company to end up like that.

00:27:37.525 --> 00:27:41.605
And I had SOPs, but I mean, they were on pieces of paper or in file cabinets.

00:27:41.605 --> 00:27:44.275
And Britt really helped get that really put in.

00:27:44.285 --> 00:27:53.144
And, and Steven too, to, to really get it to where anybody can, can follow our procedure and should be able to produce an end result that's expected.

00:27:53.265 --> 00:27:53.595
Yeah.

00:27:53.704 --> 00:27:54.005
Yeah.

00:27:54.095 --> 00:27:54.525
I dig it.

00:27:54.684 --> 00:27:54.984
Yeah.

00:27:55.055 --> 00:28:06.369
Um, what, uh, I guess what would you say, um, and either one of you can answer this, what would you say your employees would say that Fisk really stands for?

00:28:06.369 --> 00:28:08.890
Or, or what, what sets you apart?

00:28:09.210 --> 00:28:11.950
Why they stay there 25 years, why they join you?

00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:12.859
Things like that.

00:28:13.539 --> 00:28:20.105
Well, I mean, I can start and you can finish, but, um, I mean, it, it's really, uh, I was surprised.

00:28:20.115 --> 00:28:33.875
So we started a company or started buying companies and built a set of companies that was in the service industry around ag and took it kind of multistate, had a location in Canada, five locations in the U.

00:28:33.875 --> 00:28:34.144
S.

00:28:34.144 --> 00:28:41.734
And yeah, it was a small, it was like 2 million when we started and 4 million are 4 years later, we were about 70 million in gross revenue.

00:28:41.734 --> 00:28:43.384
So it was huge explosion.

00:28:43.394 --> 00:28:44.045
When was this?

00:28:44.269 --> 00:28:46.099
This was just in the last five, six years.

00:28:46.170 --> 00:28:46.440
Okay.

00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:50.170
Um, and we ended up selling, um, that company off.

00:28:50.420 --> 00:28:53.079
Lots of things I learned, good and bad.

00:28:53.450 --> 00:28:59.740
Um, but when I came back into Fisk more often, I mean, I just kind of dropped by once a week, that kind of thing.

00:28:59.750 --> 00:29:01.369
Oh, that's why we recognized you for a while.

00:29:01.369 --> 00:29:05.789
Yeah, and when I came back, I was just shocked how different it felt.

00:29:06.099 --> 00:29:08.259
And, and so that was the whole culture piece.

00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.410
And a guy named Mark, um, Weaver, yeah, yeah.

00:29:12.410 --> 00:29:16.509
Just helped me so much with culture and works great with Brit.

00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:20.930
But, um, it, I just, we lost something that we took for granted.

00:29:20.930 --> 00:29:21.779
At least I did.

00:29:21.789 --> 00:29:24.380
And that was really my cousin and my uncle.

00:29:24.450 --> 00:29:29.140
Um, they were, I mean, it was always, I mean, very spiritual family.

00:29:29.690 --> 00:29:30.984
And that was at that time.

00:29:31.174 --> 00:29:33.464
the forefront of their life, no matter what they did.

00:29:33.464 --> 00:29:34.555
That was always first.

00:29:34.575 --> 00:29:37.785
And so honesty and hard work.

00:29:37.795 --> 00:29:43.964
And I mean, my uncle just passed away and there's over 300 people at his funeral just a few months ago.

00:29:43.964 --> 00:29:45.224
And he, he was 91.

00:29:45.275 --> 00:29:49.035
I mean, you don't see that, but that usually people are 91.

00:29:49.045 --> 00:29:50.305
They don't have that many friends left.

00:29:52.115 --> 00:29:53.765
It's a Testament to what a great.

00:29:53.994 --> 00:29:59.565
a great culture that he built, not just from a work standpoint, but his personal life and his faith.

00:29:59.575 --> 00:30:00.585
It was just massive.

00:30:00.585 --> 00:30:03.494
And so that was really the key to Fisk.

00:30:03.494 --> 00:30:08.585
And, um, I, I inherited, um, like I said, when we first met, I'm kind of last man standing.

00:30:08.585 --> 00:30:08.845
Right.

00:30:08.865 --> 00:30:12.974
But I, I mean, I, I was loyal to the company, but I believed in it.

00:30:12.984 --> 00:30:31.265
And then when I saw some of that missing, it was just because we didn't do a good job sharing that with the incoming people, the guys that have been there for 25 years, honestly are there because they, uh, my uncle and my cousin, and they just saw that I adopted that and still live that life and believed in that vision.

00:30:31.265 --> 00:30:37.065
So figuring out how we share that with the new people, but the new guys, yeah, you got to kind of get them on board a little faster.

00:30:37.095 --> 00:30:37.384
Yeah.

00:30:37.414 --> 00:30:37.674
Right.

00:30:37.974 --> 00:30:41.365
They don't want five years for them to be Rob, Rob Fisk.

00:30:41.365 --> 00:30:42.454
We want it to be right away.

00:30:42.515 --> 00:30:44.404
And it's a whole different world now.

00:30:44.464 --> 00:30:47.394
I mean, you hear that all the time, but it's just so different.

00:30:47.394 --> 00:30:57.829
So, I mean, what was, Easy to communicate, I think, um, when you were a small shop and everyone was together every day in the morning is hard when a lot of people don't ever even come to our office.

00:30:57.829 --> 00:30:59.339
They just go straight out to job sites.

00:31:00.690 --> 00:31:00.950
Yeah.

00:31:01.339 --> 00:31:04.269
Brittany, did he cover most of the stuff that you were thinking?

00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.119
Yeah, I mean, I feel like he did a good job of hitting on that.

00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:09.849
Um, yeah.

00:31:11.170 --> 00:31:12.039
Talk to me about Mark Weaver.

00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:13.650
Mark's awesome.

00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:14.279
Yeah.

00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:15.059
He's just a good dude.

00:31:15.059 --> 00:31:20.099
Did you listen to my podcast with him as part of your research for this conversation?

00:31:20.609 --> 00:31:20.890
Right.

00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:24.329
He was like number 84 or 88 or something like that.

00:31:24.410 --> 00:31:24.599
Yeah.

00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:25.539
He said he was early on.

00:31:25.569 --> 00:31:25.730
Yeah.

00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:26.039
Yeah.

00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:27.009
Relatively early.

00:31:27.029 --> 00:31:27.140
Yeah.

00:31:27.180 --> 00:31:27.549
Right.

00:31:27.950 --> 00:31:28.869
No, he's been awesome.

00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:30.549
He's been a huge asset to us.

00:31:30.549 --> 00:31:38.049
I feel like we've, uh, like again, when he mentioned, like we kind of noticed that there's this culture that.

00:31:38.589 --> 00:31:40.990
It was there and it kind of wasn't there.

00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:45.880
And yeah, mark, we didn't like, he'd been doing HR for Fisk for years and years and years.

00:31:45.940 --> 00:31:46.059
Yeah.

00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:49.720
I worked with him, uh, multiple companies, uh, employer source group.

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:49.779
Oh, okay.

00:31:49.779 --> 00:31:54.400
And a bunch of stuff where he was working with people that I knew Benner family and Yeah.

00:31:54.579 --> 00:32:01.785
Really helped us a lot early on, but I, I just didn't put two and two together and realize how much help he could be from the culture side.

00:32:01.785 --> 00:32:02.585
It was more HR side compliance.

00:32:02.585 --> 00:32:04.990
But you're like, oh, compliance's some culture action here too.

00:32:04.990 --> 00:32:05.079
Yeah.

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:06.940
Yeah, so we use him a lot.

00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:11.720
I meet with him multiple times a week, and I mean, he's been a huge part of what we're trying to do.

00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:26.420
Well, it's been fun just because I feel like culture is his passion like he does the HR side of stuff But but culture is his passion so then having him come in and and be able to really just push him Kevin, especially into What is it?

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:29.779
Do you want you know, like what is what is Fisk?

00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:30.480
Would you say?

00:32:30.884 --> 00:32:31.714
We don't do drama.

00:32:31.714 --> 00:32:32.575
What does that mean?

00:32:32.795 --> 00:32:44.545
You know, like going through and breaking it down to what are your norms your values your intolerables and And truly like getting that out and then that's kind of the McDonald's way, you know, like it's a lot easier once it's spelled out.

00:32:44.545 --> 00:32:45.974
Like this is what is expected.

00:32:46.035 --> 00:32:46.424
Right.

00:32:46.615 --> 00:32:51.765
When Kevin says this, you can't see what he's doing in the field because he's not in the field anymore.

00:32:51.785 --> 00:32:52.285
Right, right.

00:32:52.335 --> 00:32:53.884
You know, but this is what he's talking about.

00:32:53.894 --> 00:33:08.990
Well, in the SOPs for, you know, how we do a bid and how we connect that with project management and what the expectations and responsibilities are, is easier than, Sometimes communicating what those core values are and how we demonstrate it.

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.160
What, what does it really mean?

00:33:11.170 --> 00:33:18.680
Well even safety, I mean something is, is As easy as safety in my mind, when I was growing up, it was, don't be stupid, be safe.

00:33:20.869 --> 00:33:23.910
And so Mark's helped me kind of use that word.

00:33:23.910 --> 00:33:41.664
And same thing with Brit to say, Hey, you can still say that, but then let's expound on that because guys coming out of high school when I was young, you know, you'd been to shop class and you'd done all kinds of things and grew up in a farm, perhaps whatever people coming in nowadays, a lot of times you, you You literally have to teach them righty, tighty, lefty, loosey, right?

00:33:41.664 --> 00:33:42.494
Right, right.

00:33:42.494 --> 00:33:43.825
And safety is the same thing.

00:33:43.825 --> 00:33:44.144
Totally.

00:33:44.144 --> 00:33:49.144
I mean, just being self aware of all the things that can hurt you really bad on, on a job site.

00:33:49.154 --> 00:33:58.585
And so safety always, it was important to me, but I didn't realize that, you know, what a fundamental level sometimes you need to start.

00:33:58.585 --> 00:34:02.424
And it's not fair to a, a guy coming in that hasn't been exposed to that.

00:34:02.474 --> 00:34:02.825
Totally.

00:34:02.845 --> 00:34:06.984
So we have to assume every single person coming in, it's a brand new.

00:34:07.434 --> 00:34:11.135
Brand new experience for him and then teaching safety from the ground up.

00:34:11.184 --> 00:34:41.570
That's just one example Yeah, but it is something that that she can help with a lot Brittany does through the way we communicate But Mark's helped us with that, you know, safety is a culture and it's super important to us So it's more than just don't be stupid No, I just think it's been It's been a challenge, like, cause like you said earlier, we have five different generations in the workforce right now.

00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:50.780
And so going from everybody meeting every Monday morning for the toolbox talks to half of those guys didn't have emails a couple of years ago.

00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:52.960
I mean, we were dealing with that two years ago.

00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.704
Where can I send our, Monday morning safety meetings, right?

00:34:56.795 --> 00:34:58.295
I don't have an email, right?

00:34:58.465 --> 00:35:17.420
It's 2020 You know and just those little things that you kind of just assume Younger generation that everybody has those so working through some of those challenges in just how do you communicate efficiently with Five different generations.

00:35:17.570 --> 00:35:17.889
Yeah.

00:35:17.969 --> 00:35:19.110
So fair enough.

00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:19.449
Yeah.

00:35:19.710 --> 00:35:26.789
Um, what's next for, you know, like, Oh, actually before we go to what's next, I wanted to go back to this adventure.

00:35:26.789 --> 00:35:32.769
You like grew some side hustle into something really big and sold it or something like that.

00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:37.929
Yeah, it was just, I mean, I I've kind of had this interest in, in.

00:35:38.614 --> 00:35:45.545
How we're going to feed the world and renewable energy and all these things that I feel like electricity is going to be a part of.

00:35:45.804 --> 00:35:56.925
So getting to know people over the years, um, a few of us got together and formed a partnership and started, uh, purchasing companies that serviced agriculture.

00:35:57.590 --> 00:35:58.949
In that space, right?

00:35:59.789 --> 00:36:00.489
And it was great.

00:36:00.489 --> 00:36:01.500
I mean it took off.

00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:03.269
It was one of those examples.

00:36:03.269 --> 00:36:08.769
It just took off so much faster than we could fund it Um, I never dreamed I'd be part of it.

00:36:08.889 --> 00:36:12.599
So it's kind of a little private equity firm of sorts Almost it was just us.

00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.090
We just find you were managing and everything everything.

00:36:15.170 --> 00:36:21.974
Yeah, so a little Warren Buffett thing Yeah, and then it's like, you know for us Flying all over the United States and try to run all these little stuff out.

00:36:21.974 --> 00:36:22.264
Yeah.

00:36:22.264 --> 00:36:28.804
And, you know, and then, and figuring out how to get people to buy into, you know, what was important to you and your vision and all that.

00:36:28.804 --> 00:36:31.945
And I mean, we learned a ton of stuff and at the end it didn't work out.

00:36:32.235 --> 00:36:33.675
Um, we were able to sell it.

00:36:34.005 --> 00:36:39.144
Um, I think it's still the vision of the future just has to be funded properly.

00:36:39.144 --> 00:36:40.875
And, uh, it's so important.

00:36:40.875 --> 00:36:43.155
I mean, skilled labor is, is just.

00:36:43.525 --> 00:36:45.724
It's, it's such a high demand right now.

00:36:45.905 --> 00:36:51.014
And I do think that now people are starting to come back in and we're seeing that.

00:36:51.014 --> 00:36:53.550
And I mean, college is still super important.

00:36:53.840 --> 00:37:03.679
Um, and, but I think that there's people that college, it just doesn't fit and skilled labor is still a super important thing and it's a necessity across all kinds of industries.

00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:11.755
So I was super passionate about that and then being able to figure out how, I mean, we could grow crops with 96 percent less water.

00:37:11.985 --> 00:37:13.014
That was a huge thing.

00:37:13.014 --> 00:37:14.485
And so I traveled to Israel.

00:37:14.485 --> 00:37:18.675
One of my partners was from Israel, um, lived in Sweden for quite a while.

00:37:18.744 --> 00:37:20.545
Um, another partner was in Canada.

00:37:20.545 --> 00:37:24.045
And so we kind of all got together and looked at some of this stuff.

00:37:24.045 --> 00:37:29.125
And I was lucky enough to go over to Israel before all the conflict and stuff, same year, just in the spring.

00:37:29.125 --> 00:37:36.480
Um, But they're taking me around and showing me and I mean, that's a nation that is short on land and short on water.

00:37:36.570 --> 00:37:36.969
Sure.

00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:40.599
But they're one of the most progressive agricultural nations in the world.

00:37:40.730 --> 00:37:41.050
Right.

00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.170
And it was fascinating to see some of these things.

00:37:44.170 --> 00:37:45.960
And so, you know, you're kind of taking bits and pieces.

00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.030
What are they growing over there?

00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:48.449
All kinds of stuff.

00:37:48.449 --> 00:37:51.000
Is it greenhouses, I assume, to protect it?

00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:51.699
It's really not.

00:37:51.699 --> 00:37:53.829
Yeah, avocados are huge over there.

00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:53.869
Okay.

00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:06.840
And so, um, there's a, you know, A huge company that's based out of Israel, multiple ones that we worked with, but this, this partner of mine is working for a company that, um, grows a ton of avocados.

00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:12.260
I mean, they're one of the largest avocado producers, I think, in Europe and maybe in the world.

00:38:12.260 --> 00:38:12.550
I don't know.

00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:20.650
They're huge, but the way the machinery and the things that they've developed there around that, but they invest in feeding animals.

00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:21.719
They're the number one.

00:38:22.170 --> 00:38:40.010
Um, feed company for animals in Israel and, uh, working with them on this controlled environment, agriculture, you know, you can take away pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, you can take away the environment, and now you're growing a sprouted green that comes just from a seed and water.

00:38:40.469 --> 00:38:45.280
And within four to seven days, you can feed that sprout to animals.

00:38:45.489 --> 00:38:53.150
Um, And it's healthy, it's super nutritious, it's low cost, I mean, and, and the advancements there have just been off the charts.

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.059
And just a rapid, like, sequence cycle, right?

00:38:56.110 --> 00:39:00.269
So that was part of kind of that environment, and then being able to And probably super easy to digest.

00:39:00.530 --> 00:39:01.519
It's fantastic, yeah.

00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:01.760
True, right?

00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:03.269
And there's just none of that stuff.

00:39:03.269 --> 00:39:03.980
So straw.

00:39:04.070 --> 00:39:04.300
Yeah.

00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:04.619
Right?

00:39:04.670 --> 00:39:05.090
Barely, yeah.

00:39:05.409 --> 00:39:15.059
Well, and you can take a, just a, a seed, and in four to five days, you can have a seven inch sprout that's just, but you're, you're, you're feeding the root.

00:39:16.949 --> 00:39:18.590
Right, so there's no processing ever.

00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:21.519
It's just amazing what it does for these.

00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:22.719
And so it's the future.

00:39:22.730 --> 00:39:26.699
So you went on this journey and you and all your partners sold out.

00:39:26.699 --> 00:39:30.389
So it was kind of a joint thing, or you were like, man, Fisk needs me.

00:39:30.489 --> 00:39:36.949
Yeah, no, we all, we all, and we all kind of went our different ways, but everyone's kind of involved still in their own way.

00:39:37.010 --> 00:39:37.320
I see.

00:39:37.329 --> 00:39:41.269
Um, I just came back and I'm still super involved in, in some of those things.

00:39:41.269 --> 00:39:45.800
And anything that I can take that I can bring back toward Fisk is good.

00:39:46.010 --> 00:39:47.550
Um, partnerships are tough.

00:39:48.030 --> 00:39:49.139
You know, I learned some lessons.

00:39:49.139 --> 00:39:51.929
I mean, there was five equal partners, right.

00:39:51.929 --> 00:39:53.969
So pretty much there was nobody in charge.

00:39:53.969 --> 00:39:55.829
And it was like always this weird thing.

00:39:55.829 --> 00:39:57.059
Best you could get to was three against two.

00:39:57.780 --> 00:39:58.050
Right.

00:39:58.050 --> 00:39:59.070
And then two people were annoyed.

00:39:59.130 --> 00:39:59.639
Yeah.

00:39:59.730 --> 00:40:01.920
And it wasn't always the two, same two.

00:40:02.010 --> 00:40:02.699
So for sure.

00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:04.170
But it was a great experience.

00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:09.329
I learned a ton and, and being able to see that this isn't just a US thing, it's a global thing.

00:40:09.329 --> 00:40:09.420
Mm-Hmm.

00:40:09.724 --> 00:40:11.280
And, you know, I mean.

00:40:12.465 --> 00:40:16.864
there's a lot of things that become political, but they don't, they don't really have to be.

00:40:16.864 --> 00:40:18.554
I mean, they're just, they're just the facts.

00:40:18.554 --> 00:40:21.635
You know, we need to figure out ways to be more responsible with our water.

00:40:21.635 --> 00:40:26.534
And we need to figure out how we're going to feed, you know, portions of the world in a more efficient way.

00:40:26.534 --> 00:40:28.914
And those are the things that get me excited.

00:40:29.005 --> 00:40:30.844
And it's all about water and energy ultimately.

00:40:30.844 --> 00:40:31.114
Right.

00:40:31.184 --> 00:40:31.864
And that's it.

00:40:31.885 --> 00:40:33.635
And it all fits back into electrical.

00:40:33.635 --> 00:40:41.224
I mean, I am so blessed to have been part of, the electrical side because it seems like the end result of a lot of these things is electricity.

00:40:41.994 --> 00:40:43.255
And that's us.

00:40:43.364 --> 00:40:43.675
Yeah.

00:40:44.014 --> 00:40:44.215
Yeah.

00:40:44.215 --> 00:40:54.335
They haven't found any good ways to move water around, except for with pumps, electric pumps, I mean, hand pumps, but foot pumps to make much water move.

00:40:54.414 --> 00:40:55.005
Yeah.

00:40:55.085 --> 00:41:12.025
So, um, So, what else would you have people, we're going to jump in the time machine here and kind of do the, the parallel life journey thing a little bit, uh, before we go into some of the later segments, but what else would you have people know about Fisk?

00:41:12.025 --> 00:41:23.855
I find it really interesting that you'll put an outlet in a garage and be the lead contractor on a, you know, probably multi, you know, maybe even tens of millions of dollar project sometimes.

00:41:23.934 --> 00:41:24.605
Absolutely.

00:41:24.614 --> 00:41:24.934
Yeah.

00:41:24.934 --> 00:41:25.485
Yeah.

00:41:25.485 --> 00:41:25.505
Yeah.

00:41:25.505 --> 00:41:25.614
All right.

00:41:26.434 --> 00:41:30.934
I don't want to do all the talking, but I mean, for me, I get super passionate about all of that.

00:41:30.945 --> 00:41:43.454
The, the foundation is electrical and that's a, you know, a GFI receptacle in some, some person's garage or, you know, it's figuring out how to provide, um, energy where, where there's no power structure.

00:41:43.454 --> 00:41:47.905
And so we're into solar and we're into biogas digesters.

00:41:47.934 --> 00:41:49.664
We've done five of those now.

00:41:49.764 --> 00:41:50.264
Oh, interesting.

00:41:50.275 --> 00:41:53.155
Um, and, um, how that works and carbon credits.

00:41:53.155 --> 00:41:55.724
And I'm a part of, you know, figuring all that stuff out.

00:41:55.735 --> 00:42:08.025
And yeah, it's just, it's an amazing look to the future, but we still have to stay rooted in our past because that's kind of what's given me every opportunity in my life is electrical, right?

00:42:08.054 --> 00:42:16.985
Well, I'm definitely going to dig into that carbon credits and stuff more in our political segment of this podcast, because it's something I've been curious about for a long time.

00:42:16.994 --> 00:42:25.639
Brittany, um, You don't seem very uncomfortable with this kind of heir apparent notion.

00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:26.690
Is it daunting?

00:42:26.690 --> 00:42:28.460
I mean, you're, are you, are you 30?

00:42:28.460 --> 00:42:30.130
Uh, yeah, 35.

00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:30.889
35?

00:42:30.949 --> 00:42:31.469
Oh, wow.

00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:32.250
You look very young.

00:42:32.539 --> 00:42:32.769
Well, thank you.

00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:33.070
Yeah.

00:42:34.460 --> 00:42:39.400
I mean, you've been also very evidently smart and capable.

00:42:40.425 --> 00:42:45.894
throughout our conversation, but like you're still fairly young in your career for sure.

00:42:45.974 --> 00:42:48.784
And uh, you know, what's that look like to you?

00:42:48.844 --> 00:42:51.485
Uh, definitely intimidating.

00:42:51.764 --> 00:42:59.375
Um, I think it's been interesting just because at a certain point I always thought one of the boys would take over Fisk Electric.

00:42:59.514 --> 00:42:59.755
Yeah.

00:42:59.954 --> 00:43:07.025
Um, and then as soon as it looked like that wasn't going to happen, there was, there was something, I can't even explain it.

00:43:07.034 --> 00:43:17.215
There's a, having Fisk Electric be your family's company, there is a certain level of just pride seeing your name on that building.

00:43:17.224 --> 00:43:22.594
And I, I don't know, I couldn't imagine it going to somebody else.

00:43:22.594 --> 00:43:28.235
So, I think my struggle is understanding somebody that's never worked in the field.

00:43:28.235 --> 00:43:29.474
Like, I'm not an electrician.

00:43:29.474 --> 00:43:32.769
I can't speak to All the electrical terminology.

00:43:32.769 --> 00:43:32.994
I never Yeah.

00:43:32.994 --> 00:43:34.271
Kilowatts I could never Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:36.074
Jewels and whatever those things.

00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:36.099
Yeah.

00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:48.429
Like I could never go bid a job, but what I can bring to the company, how does that work and, and how can I be, uh, an asset to the company without having electrical side.

00:43:48.429 --> 00:43:59.500
So I think it's been a interesting, just talking to my dad and, and to, mark Mark's been a huge help with some of that too, and just figuring out ways that, that I can bring certain elements that.

00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:11.170
That do benefit and yeah, well, and over time, um, I would imagine that you'll have to kind of move into other areas, keep growing your learning a little bit.

00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:20.389
You know, it's all about assembling a team too, but, um, we have actually, uh, Brittany would love our, we have a group that's just for the right hand.

00:44:21.355 --> 00:44:24.324
the key employees that might somehow run, someday run the place.

00:44:24.394 --> 00:44:24.744
Yeah.

00:44:24.824 --> 00:44:27.244
And Allison Seabick is the facilitator for it.

00:44:27.284 --> 00:44:28.644
And uh, That'd be awesome.

00:44:28.675 --> 00:44:30.255
You guys would get on like peas and carrots.

00:44:30.264 --> 00:44:30.755
Heck yeah.

00:44:30.824 --> 00:44:31.175
Yeah.

00:44:31.315 --> 00:44:34.394
So we'll talk more about that after the show, or maybe we'll hit it later.

00:44:34.394 --> 00:44:35.512
But uh, That'd be awesome.

00:44:35.512 --> 00:44:43.155
It's uh, you know, a lot of those number twos, a lot of thirty somethings, you know, that will be the decider someday.

00:44:43.284 --> 00:44:43.664
Sure.

00:44:43.905 --> 00:44:44.655
Uh, Sure.

00:44:44.844 --> 00:44:45.565
And so that's fun.

00:44:46.195 --> 00:44:48.534
Um, I think it's time for the time machine.

00:44:49.579 --> 00:44:49.880
Okay.

00:44:49.940 --> 00:44:50.239
Ready?

00:44:53.230 --> 00:44:54.190
You're older, Kevin.

00:44:54.190 --> 00:44:56.739
So we're going to go back to where you were young.

00:44:56.739 --> 00:44:57.789
I'm still hitchhiking.

00:44:58.500 --> 00:44:59.809
Right back when you were hitchhiking.

00:45:00.210 --> 00:45:04.219
No, let's go to, uh, uh, let's go to your first grade year.

00:45:04.340 --> 00:45:04.679
Yeah.

00:45:05.289 --> 00:45:10.500
Uh, Your dad had left the company already and had become a teacher?

00:45:10.510 --> 00:45:10.909
Is that true?

00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.710
My dad, yeah, he just worked a little bit for my uncles.

00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.400
Um, so yeah, so he became a teacher.

00:45:16.449 --> 00:45:18.619
Um, I was born in Colorado.

00:45:18.650 --> 00:45:21.130
Um, we moved to Alaska when I was two.

00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:22.230
Where in Colorado?

00:45:22.525 --> 00:45:24.014
Uh, I was born in Leadville.

00:45:24.054 --> 00:45:25.065
We lived in Buena Vista.

00:45:25.105 --> 00:45:25.724
Oh, interesting.

00:45:25.724 --> 00:45:25.824
Okay.

00:45:26.385 --> 00:45:26.704
Yeah.

00:45:27.085 --> 00:45:32.405
And then, uh, my dad came home one day and told my mom he wanted to go see Alaska, and she said, oh, that's great.

00:45:32.864 --> 00:45:37.344
And she thought he meant for vacation, and he quit his job and moved to Alaska.

00:45:37.585 --> 00:45:38.244
She went with him, though?

00:45:38.244 --> 00:45:38.715
Yeah.

00:45:38.804 --> 00:45:39.025
Yeah.

00:45:39.025 --> 00:45:40.235
I mean, it was the three of us.

00:45:40.335 --> 00:45:46.744
So, yeah, we ended up in a fishing village up there for, uh, yeah, about five years, and, uh And, like, teaching?

00:45:47.139 --> 00:45:49.170
Yeah, he just he didn't have a job.

00:45:49.250 --> 00:46:00.429
I mean, he was making phone calls as we were driving up And we got on a ferry and they said if you can be to this little town called cordova in three days Um, they would interview him.

00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.985
And so he he went through the interview and it's great and the guy said him I'm leaving for my summer break.

00:46:05.994 --> 00:46:08.954
Um, if you still want the job when I come back and he goes, well, you don't understand.

00:46:08.954 --> 00:46:12.525
I'm like, I've got 20 bucks in my pocket and my family.

00:46:12.715 --> 00:46:12.985
Yeah.

00:46:13.304 --> 00:46:14.094
And we're all in.

00:46:14.094 --> 00:46:17.244
And so he got him a job at the cannery and yeah.

00:46:17.244 --> 00:46:21.625
And we, we lived in the summer of the cannery and then, uh, started at the high school in Cordova.

00:46:21.625 --> 00:46:22.228
Fascinating.

00:46:22.228 --> 00:46:22.829
Yeah.

00:46:23.090 --> 00:46:25.739
That's an adventurous, uh, family tree.

00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:35.320
So yeah, so then, uh, when I started, we moved in just outside of Anchorage, um, when I started kindergarten so I was lucky enough to go from kindergarten through 12th grade in the same school system.

00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:35.619
Okay.

00:46:35.969 --> 00:46:46.219
Uh, we lived in a town called Eagle River, north of Anchorage and, uh, yeah, I mean right around somewhere between first and third grade we were learning, uh, metric system for one year.

00:46:46.550 --> 00:46:47.619
Right, right.

00:46:47.659 --> 00:46:49.079
And they threw that back out the window.

00:46:49.090 --> 00:46:49.650
Yeah, that's right.

00:46:49.690 --> 00:46:51.940
So what, uh, what would you have people know about?

00:46:51.985 --> 00:46:59.724
Like Alaska and, and were you kind of semi-urban Alaska, you said it was north of Anchorage, but it was more of a suburb than it was like a Yeah.

00:46:59.844 --> 00:46:59.994
Village.

00:47:00.114 --> 00:47:01.224
Super small town.

00:47:01.224 --> 00:47:04.375
It wasn't a village, but um, I felt like it was normal.

00:47:04.380 --> 00:47:08.454
But yeah, looking back, it probably wasn't super, but, uh, yeah.

00:47:08.485 --> 00:47:10.675
But you did your shopping in Anchorage and things like that?

00:47:10.735 --> 00:47:16.465
Yeah, and we had a little grocery store and, you know, we had a restaurant and, you know, there's a couple things where I, where we grew up.

00:47:16.525 --> 00:47:18.505
Um, we had huge high schools.

00:47:18.565 --> 00:47:20.635
Um, they were junior, senior high schools.

00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:20.869
Okay.

00:47:21.144 --> 00:47:21.445
Um.

00:47:21.750 --> 00:47:30.280
There was only probably about 7 or 8 of them total in our area, but they were all, my average class sizes were probably 350 to 500.

00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:30.840
Oh, wow.

00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:38.449
So, um, it was, you know, expensive to build, so I think they just kind of bust people in and that kind of stuff, so, um.

00:47:38.449 --> 00:47:39.789
And was it just you the whole time?

00:47:39.949 --> 00:47:43.164
Single, solo child, or did your folks bring some more people in?

00:47:44.684 --> 00:47:45.695
Yeah, I got one sister.

00:47:45.724 --> 00:47:46.034
Okay.

00:47:46.085 --> 00:47:46.434
Yeah.

00:47:46.655 --> 00:47:46.994
Yeah.

00:47:47.014 --> 00:47:48.054
So, uh, yeah.

00:47:48.054 --> 00:47:49.574
And she was actually born in Cordova.

00:47:49.574 --> 00:47:59.275
She gets to claim to be a native Alaskan, um, which is a kind of a cool thing, but, uh, yeah, that was, uh, Alaska was a great place to grow up.

00:47:59.315 --> 00:48:00.405
I mean, it was different.

00:48:00.405 --> 00:48:04.094
I didn't realize how dysfunctional it was later on.

00:48:04.094 --> 00:48:11.445
I mean, it was the, the pipeline and oil boom, and it was kind of like, I, they kind of equate it to gold rush.

00:48:11.445 --> 00:48:11.764
Right.

00:48:11.764 --> 00:48:11.815
Yeah.

00:48:12.090 --> 00:48:12.590
Right.

00:48:12.630 --> 00:48:23.239
So it brought lots of money and with lots of money is lots of problems and I mean, there's just a lot of crazy stories that I didn't realize until after I was grown up and moved away.

00:48:23.260 --> 00:48:33.530
My wife's like, that is just not normal, but like a lot of your, even your coworker, your peers at school and stuff, like their parents were in chaotic.

00:48:34.375 --> 00:48:36.030
Oil field patches and different things like that.

00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:42.574
And they would work four, four weeks and be off two, or they'd work, you know, six weeks and be off two, those kind of things.

00:48:42.574 --> 00:48:45.675
I mean, uh, I didn't grow up in that environment.

00:48:45.675 --> 00:48:48.184
My mom stayed home and my dad was a school teacher.

00:48:48.184 --> 00:48:49.724
So it is very different.

00:48:49.724 --> 00:48:59.625
We, we would fish in the summers and commercial fish some, not super successful, but back in the derby days of long lining for halibut and those kind of things.

00:48:59.625 --> 00:49:01.125
It was, it was great.

00:49:01.125 --> 00:49:01.715
I mean, I.

00:49:01.844 --> 00:49:08.394
I have zero complaints about growing up, um, in Alaska, but lots of, lots of crazy stories definitely now.

00:49:08.514 --> 00:49:09.195
Yeah, fair enough.

00:49:09.195 --> 00:49:09.414
Yeah.

00:49:09.534 --> 00:49:11.585
Have you been up to where, where your dad grew up?

00:49:11.804 --> 00:49:12.204
Yeah.

00:49:12.324 --> 00:49:17.235
I, uh, we got to go up once when I was in junior high, so it's been a while.

00:49:17.295 --> 00:49:17.594
Yeah.

00:49:17.614 --> 00:49:18.074
What do you think?

00:49:18.085 --> 00:49:18.909
You want to, you want to go up?

00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:20.210
Move it up there.

00:49:20.219 --> 00:49:22.059
Move Fisk Electric up to Alaska.

00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:26.610
You know, I am totally down to visit, but that is a little chilly for me.

00:49:26.619 --> 00:49:27.400
Yeah, fair enough.

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:28.480
Fair enough.

00:49:28.809 --> 00:49:29.780
I go up a lot.

00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.360
I still, yeah, my dad and stepmom still live there.

00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:33.159
My sister still lives there.

00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:33.739
Oh, wow.

00:49:33.739 --> 00:49:34.079
Okay.

00:49:34.489 --> 00:49:36.539
I have friends from high school that are up there.

00:49:36.610 --> 00:49:37.650
Yeah, I love it.

00:49:37.739 --> 00:49:40.039
So, what did you do after high school?

00:49:40.329 --> 00:49:41.579
Did you come south?

00:49:41.690 --> 00:49:48.449
Yeah, I mean, I went to trade school for a few months and decided I didn't want to just sit and, you know, I was going to go into drafting.

00:49:48.469 --> 00:49:50.760
My dad was a drafting teacher, industrial arts.

00:49:50.809 --> 00:49:51.179
Yep, yep.

00:49:51.789 --> 00:50:01.905
So woodshop, metal and drafting and just decided that Uh, after I went to, it was down in Phoenix, and I was like, Oh man, I just can't sit behind a desk the rest of my life.

00:50:01.934 --> 00:50:02.994
And so I went back up.

00:50:02.994 --> 00:50:04.735
I worked at the airport in Anchorage.

00:50:05.215 --> 00:50:08.605
Um, and then, uh, moved down here and went to work for my uncle.

00:50:08.704 --> 00:50:11.255
And were you close with the family down here?

00:50:11.255 --> 00:50:15.349
Did you Were you familiar with Fisk Electric and things like that?

00:50:15.349 --> 00:50:18.335
Yeah, we would come down once every about four years.

00:50:18.675 --> 00:50:23.034
Um, and so I knew who my uncles were and my aunts and that kind of thing.

00:50:23.065 --> 00:50:27.974
But I guess in the back of my mind, I always knew that Fisk Electric was an opportunity.

00:50:27.974 --> 00:50:35.230
I mean, he started in 77, I wasn't little, but you know, I mean, I kind of thought that could be a potential career path.

00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:40.800
And, um, yeah, my dad basically said, Hey, you need to, you know, you need to get out.

00:50:42.250 --> 00:50:45.710
So, uh, I came down and worked for my uncle and my aunt and uncle.

00:50:45.710 --> 00:50:48.840
I lived with them for a while and just the greatest people.

00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:54.364
I mean, they took multiple kids in, um, And gave them opportunities.

00:50:54.364 --> 00:50:56.255
Like unofficial foster parents almost.

00:50:56.284 --> 00:50:56.574
Yeah.

00:50:56.675 --> 00:51:01.675
Or outside of school in your case, but you still needed a I'm still super close.

00:51:01.684 --> 00:51:05.125
So one of them is, is my, uh, cousin's son.

00:51:05.494 --> 00:51:09.974
And one of them is just a, a lady I didn't even know, but she happened to be from Alaska.

00:51:10.085 --> 00:51:10.574
Okay.

00:51:10.684 --> 00:51:13.164
And they came down and we're still friends today.

00:51:13.164 --> 00:51:16.135
So I mean, my aunt and uncle are special people.

00:51:16.135 --> 00:51:16.855
They Yeah.

00:51:16.914 --> 00:51:17.474
What were their names?

00:51:17.474 --> 00:51:17.494
Yeah.

00:51:17.494 --> 00:51:17.625
Yeah.

00:51:17.824 --> 00:51:19.324
Verge and Yolanda Fisk.

00:51:19.735 --> 00:51:25.965
Verge just passed away, Yolanda is still here and uh, very much a part of Fisk and Fisk family.

00:51:25.994 --> 00:51:26.664
Yeah, yeah.

00:51:26.755 --> 00:51:27.105
Yeah.

00:51:27.315 --> 00:51:29.625
Fisk Emeritus, uh, almost, yeah.

00:51:30.074 --> 00:51:30.565
I dig it.

00:51:30.574 --> 00:51:39.985
So, um, like, They didn't have any draftsmen, so did you start in the field doing electric stuff, or how does that look like when you get started?

00:51:40.025 --> 00:51:46.885
Yeah, I mean, when I was, when I was looking at being a draftsman, um, we were still being taught conventional drafting.

00:51:47.045 --> 00:51:47.394
Okay.

00:51:47.474 --> 00:51:49.224
Um, but CAD was just kind of coming in.

00:51:49.224 --> 00:51:49.775
Mmm.

00:51:49.824 --> 00:51:52.164
I mean, my high school, my senior year, had one computer.

00:51:52.204 --> 00:51:53.505
So you were the high tech guy.

00:51:54.534 --> 00:51:57.625
Way back when, just like Brittany was when she joined in.

00:51:57.625 --> 00:52:00.505
I can spell IT, that's about as far up, yeah.

00:52:00.710 --> 00:52:05.710
But, um, it just, it was, I could see where that, that side of things was going.

00:52:05.769 --> 00:52:09.380
And I didn't want to spend years learning kind of the old school stuff.

00:52:09.969 --> 00:52:17.440
So electrical at one point was just kind of a stop gap for me, but it became something that, that I got passionate about.

00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.219
And I loved, uh, being part of the family business and.

00:52:21.605 --> 00:52:28.344
Like I said, I mean, I just, I stuck the longest, but it was a, it was a fascinating career path for me.

00:52:28.534 --> 00:52:30.315
And what did, like, what did they get you started doing?

00:52:30.670 --> 00:52:36.210
I did a couple of houses early on and then really wiring houses and whatever.

00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:41.300
Back in the back at that time, we were primarily a commercial, um, company.

00:52:41.300 --> 00:52:43.639
And so in fact, it's a funny story.

00:52:43.650 --> 00:52:50.099
My, uh, my uncle decided that it was probably smart to get involved in the residential side of things.

00:52:50.110 --> 00:52:53.920
So he moved, he was an electrician for 20 years in Denver, moved up.

00:52:54.099 --> 00:52:57.409
And decided, Hey, there's not a whole lot of commercial going on up here.

00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:00.829
We need to move into, you know, the residential market.

00:53:00.900 --> 00:53:05.489
And so they, they piped the first house, like didn't understand Romex.

00:53:06.179 --> 00:53:08.800
So literally ran conduit and pulled wire.

00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:09.349
Right.

00:53:09.409 --> 00:53:12.420
And then they're sitting there thinking, how do people make money?

00:53:12.420 --> 00:53:14.750
And it's just ridiculous.

00:53:14.940 --> 00:53:24.710
They don't spend all this conduit, but yeah, so they piped their whole first house, but we hired people that, that knew what to do and, and they taught us how to be a kind of a residential electrician as well.

00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:24.960
Yeah.

00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:25.090
Yeah.

00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:25.809
Interesting.

00:53:26.260 --> 00:53:29.789
Um, and what were the first like sniffs of leadership?

00:53:29.809 --> 00:53:32.090
You mentioned that like Verge, was it?

00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:32.369
Yeah.

00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:36.190
Um, sold the company to you and Yep.

00:53:36.190 --> 00:53:37.210
Clifford is his name.

00:53:37.210 --> 00:53:40.750
And so, I mean, Clifford is the guy that I really served my apprenticeship under.

00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:41.179
Okay.

00:53:41.190 --> 00:53:46.300
I mean, he was just an awesome commercial electrician and, uh, he's way more like a brother.

00:53:47.445 --> 00:53:48.715
My very best friend.

00:53:48.715 --> 00:53:50.385
I mean, he is just a great guy.

00:53:50.385 --> 00:53:52.784
And were you guys 50, 50, or was he senior?

00:53:52.835 --> 00:53:54.425
No, he was always senior partner.

00:53:54.434 --> 00:53:54.784
Okay.

00:53:54.965 --> 00:53:58.525
So, um, then, you know, I ended up buying in over the years.

00:53:58.885 --> 00:54:09.565
Um, so I got up to a little share right away and then yeah, 10 percent and then went to 15 and then I think 20 and ended up about 30 percent when I ended up, um, he retired and I bought him out.

00:54:09.585 --> 00:54:10.005
Gotcha.

00:54:10.045 --> 00:54:10.505
Gotcha.

00:54:10.565 --> 00:54:10.934
Okay.

00:54:11.164 --> 00:54:12.554
But yeah, first grade, whew.

00:54:12.655 --> 00:54:14.094
I didn't see that really coming.

00:54:15.005 --> 00:54:15.315
Sorry.

00:54:16.525 --> 00:54:22.664
Um, so yeah, talk to me, I guess, about some of the major turning points along that journey.

00:54:22.744 --> 00:54:28.605
Um, you said you were pretty residential focused by the time of like the great recession and stuff.

00:54:28.715 --> 00:54:29.034
Yeah.

00:54:29.034 --> 00:54:30.144
Even way before that.

00:54:30.144 --> 00:54:32.304
I mean, residential, we were probably 80%.

00:54:33.284 --> 00:54:38.295
Residential back in Well late 90s, I mean 9 11.

00:54:38.355 --> 00:54:50.045
Okay really changed everything for me Because we were we were working with a lot of national builders and when 9 11 hit everything stopped.

00:54:50.114 --> 00:54:50.445
Right.

00:54:50.445 --> 00:54:56.474
And so when we started looking at that, um, we started to realize that it was the local builders that weren't going anywhere.

00:54:56.574 --> 00:54:56.985
Right.

00:54:57.344 --> 00:54:59.375
So they still had to finish this project.

00:54:59.605 --> 00:54:59.804
Yeah.

00:54:59.804 --> 00:55:01.085
I got, I got lots.

00:55:01.085 --> 00:55:04.894
I got a national builders were taking whole subdivisions and just plowing them under.

00:55:05.125 --> 00:55:05.695
Oh, right.

00:55:05.824 --> 00:55:08.554
So they, it cost them more because of tax purposes.

00:55:08.554 --> 00:55:13.295
So they just turned them back into vacant fields.

00:55:13.844 --> 00:55:21.449
Um, so we really wanted to focus on You know, the local builders, if we were going to be commercial, but really starting to diversify.

00:55:21.510 --> 00:55:24.099
And that's really what changed my whole mindset.

00:55:24.099 --> 00:55:25.300
I mean, diversification.

00:55:25.300 --> 00:55:30.090
So we came up through, you know, Mark helped us come up with some of this stuff, but we call it the Fisk way.

00:55:30.090 --> 00:55:36.150
And the Fisk way is we want everything to, to start out being a responsible thing.

00:55:36.409 --> 00:55:39.130
It needs to be responsible to us, to our customers.

00:55:39.130 --> 00:55:40.679
It's a good purpose for this electricity.

00:55:40.690 --> 00:55:41.130
Yeah.

00:55:41.190 --> 00:55:46.864
It needs to be responsible to the environment or, I mean, whatever you want to look at, You're just not setting up, uh, electric operated bird killers.

00:55:46.864 --> 00:55:47.047
Yeah.

00:55:47.047 --> 00:55:47.230
Yeah.

00:55:48.050 --> 00:55:49.059
You could build that for me though, right?

00:55:49.059 --> 00:55:49.920
Right, right.

00:55:49.989 --> 00:55:50.510
You bet.

00:55:51.460 --> 00:55:53.380
If I got too many birds, I could take care of it.

00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:56.030
We, and then we want to be, um, sustainable.

00:55:56.030 --> 00:56:02.650
Whatever it is that's responsible, it has to be sustainable, repeatable, or, you know, one time typically, by the time you get it figured out.

00:56:02.905 --> 00:56:06.824
You didn't make any money, you spent money, you know, and so it has to be a sustainable thing.

00:56:07.184 --> 00:56:09.284
And then thirdly, obviously it has to be profitable.

00:56:09.364 --> 00:56:16.284
And so every decision that I make in Fisk or around any of my businesses have to be those three things.

00:56:16.284 --> 00:56:21.954
They have to be responsible, it has to be a sustainable option, and it has to ultimately be a profitable thing.

00:56:21.985 --> 00:56:22.074
Yeah.

00:56:22.664 --> 00:56:23.545
We need to kind of move on.

00:56:23.574 --> 00:56:24.474
Or it could be a decision.

00:56:24.474 --> 00:56:26.485
I mean, you know, probably donate to charity and stuff.

00:56:26.485 --> 00:56:28.625
That isn't always profitable, but it's a choice.

00:56:28.655 --> 00:56:29.034
Right.

00:56:29.454 --> 00:56:34.554
And philanthropy and charity and all those things are a super important part of what we do.

00:56:34.625 --> 00:56:34.914
Yeah.

00:56:34.974 --> 00:56:36.664
But that stems from profit, right?

00:56:36.894 --> 00:56:37.425
Right, right, right.

00:56:37.425 --> 00:56:40.074
Yeah, it's hard to be generous if you're not profitable.

00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:44.079
And there's a lot of stuff that you have to do with, uh, you know, a bunch of employees.

00:56:44.079 --> 00:57:03.304
I mean, there's a lot of decisions that you make and that was something somebody pointed out to me is, um, you know, you're being responsible and, and you're, you know, your charities sometimes are, are people you're taking care of that are having tough times inside of your own, Rather than just sending a check to, you know, somebody else take care of your, your house first.

00:57:03.304 --> 00:57:07.545
So Brittany, I'm going to bring it back to you cause we've passed your first grade year.

00:57:08.405 --> 00:57:09.864
Uh, talk to me about that.

00:57:09.864 --> 00:57:11.795
Like that was, he says you're 35.

00:57:11.795 --> 00:57:12.485
So that was what?

00:57:13.704 --> 00:57:14.925
Mid nineties, late nineties.

00:57:14.925 --> 00:57:15.394
Yeah.

00:57:15.425 --> 00:57:15.885
Yeah.

00:57:16.485 --> 00:57:20.244
Um, I was homeschooled, so I did spend a lot of time with my mom.

00:57:20.315 --> 00:57:20.655
Okay.

00:57:21.085 --> 00:57:21.894
Yeah, so.

00:57:21.954 --> 00:57:23.974
And how many, two older brothers is that?

00:57:24.014 --> 00:57:24.625
Two younger brothers.

00:57:24.625 --> 00:57:25.394
Two younger brothers.

00:57:25.574 --> 00:57:25.934
Okay.

00:57:26.025 --> 00:57:27.144
Yep, I'm the oldest.

00:57:27.594 --> 00:57:29.264
But yeah, first grade.

00:57:29.295 --> 00:57:31.715
Yeah, I was hanging out with my mom a lot, my brothers.

00:57:31.755 --> 00:57:32.315
Yeah, yeah.

00:57:32.385 --> 00:57:33.454
And, uh.

00:57:33.585 --> 00:57:35.284
We lived on a dairy farm at that point.

00:57:35.335 --> 00:57:35.815
Lived on a dairy farm.

00:57:35.815 --> 00:57:36.644
And where is this?

00:57:36.775 --> 00:57:37.324
Uh, where is the farm?

00:57:37.324 --> 00:57:38.045
Berthed.

00:57:38.045 --> 00:57:38.295
Berthed.

00:57:38.295 --> 00:57:38.635
Okay.

00:57:38.755 --> 00:57:39.054
Yeah.

00:57:39.155 --> 00:57:39.715
So close.

00:57:39.724 --> 00:57:41.065
Close by the town, almost.

00:57:41.369 --> 00:57:41.739
Yep.

00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:48.079
Riding cows because my parents wouldn't get me a horse, and, uh, pet chickens, pet cats.

00:57:48.474 --> 00:57:50.045
Like, anything you could imagine.

00:57:50.525 --> 00:57:52.375
Always going out playing with the calves, so.

00:57:52.635 --> 00:57:53.335
Life was pretty good.

00:57:53.355 --> 00:58:02.974
Do you have, uh, like a, uh, excuse me, probably your brothers were your best friends, but do you have other neighbor friends and people, the community, to be a part of?

00:58:02.974 --> 00:58:13.224
We had some kids on the farm that I'd play with here and there, but definitely Probably more sports driven like my gotcha sports teams.

00:58:13.224 --> 00:58:28.469
I was close with but yeah little dribblers I had to get her in like two years early because That she wanted to play basketball and went and talked to the guys down there and they're like, yeah, bring her in So she was yeah, her friends were church and and sports.

00:58:28.469 --> 00:58:31.025
I mean that was yeah We tried to feed that a lot.

00:58:31.025 --> 00:58:32.625
So it wasn't an isolated type.

00:58:32.644 --> 00:58:33.045
Sure.

00:58:33.344 --> 00:58:33.764
Sounds like it.

00:58:33.764 --> 00:58:35.824
Yeah They were you tall?

00:58:35.844 --> 00:58:37.224
I was right away.

00:58:37.315 --> 00:58:37.585
Yeah.

00:58:37.585 --> 00:58:39.894
I feel like I've always been on the taller side for sure.

00:58:40.014 --> 00:59:01.315
I was so excited when I had a bigger foot than my dad like third grade tall I was, uh, I was Kurt the Squirt Um, and so I was like four foot 11 and a hundred pounds my seventh grade year, and by my end of my sophomore year, I was five foot one and like 105 pounds.

00:59:01.980 --> 00:59:03.059
And then I got tall.

00:59:03.570 --> 00:59:12.969
So, and the, the first girl I danced with though, it was like five foot 10 and it was a terrifying, anyway.

00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.099
Um, so I was always the opposite, right?

00:59:16.099 --> 00:59:21.630
Like I was always the kid that was a foot shorter than all of my classmates, especially the girls in third grade, fourth grade.

00:59:21.630 --> 00:59:21.869
Right.

00:59:22.170 --> 00:59:22.730
Me too.

00:59:22.739 --> 00:59:26.380
Like 11th, 12th grade, I was like short and super skinny.

00:59:26.380 --> 00:59:28.150
You got tall later, a little taller.

00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:28.480
Yeah.

00:59:28.849 --> 00:59:32.244
So, um, When did it come out?

00:59:32.244 --> 00:59:35.474
You signed up for the Little Dribblers, like, you snuck her in?

00:59:35.494 --> 00:59:37.945
Or they just let her in even though she wasn't quite old enough?

00:59:37.945 --> 00:59:40.144
Yeah, I went and talked to them and said, hey, here's the deal.

00:59:40.155 --> 00:59:40.804
She's pretty good?

00:59:41.644 --> 00:59:42.864
She looks like she's old enough.

00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:44.440
She thought she was really good.

00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:50.420
So, what was your She thought it was a race, didn't realize you had to actually dribble.

00:59:51.710 --> 00:59:53.699
What was your, what was your basketball journey?

00:59:53.699 --> 00:59:56.840
You said that, like, that's what you want to do at a school for virtually.

00:59:56.840 --> 01:00:02.579
Were you like, state champ, or on club teams, or, like, it was your life?

01:00:02.579 --> 01:00:02.900
It sounds like.

01:00:02.900 --> 01:00:05.099
Unfortunately, we didn't get a state championship.

01:00:05.150 --> 01:00:12.260
We came, came close a couple times, but no, I, uh, Played club all through high school, ended up playing in college.

01:00:12.889 --> 01:00:32.885
For a couple years I got hurt, but it definitely led me to a couple different schools and adventures and it gave me an opportunity to To find kind of what my passion was it's hard to imagine When your whole life is a sport or or you know any activity, I think When it comes time that it's done Right.

01:00:32.905 --> 01:00:34.715
It's like what what is your identity?

01:00:34.715 --> 01:00:36.864
What what are you gonna have be passionate about?

01:00:36.864 --> 01:00:41.659
So it definitely led me to Kind of find where where I'm at now.

01:00:41.699 --> 01:00:44.050
And where did you play your your college basketball?

01:00:44.289 --> 01:00:47.860
It's probably everybody makes fun of me and says it's probably easier to ask where I didn't.

01:00:48.170 --> 01:00:53.659
Um, I went to Eastern, Washington My freshman year and then ended up getting hurt.

01:00:53.670 --> 01:01:27.309
It looked like I was gonna have to have hip surgery Okay, so I wanted to be close so I ended up moving back and going to Metro State for a couple years Yeah, and then at that point after basketball was kind of not in the cards for me anymore I transferred to Harding in Arkansas and oh wow Was out there for a couple years and then ended up getting my degree at UNC which she had a Scholarship offer at the very beginning, but she was like, I don't want to go Somewhere out of state I wanted to go Experience some life and have some adventures and division one out of state.

01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:36.619
Well, she might not be your heir apparent right now if she was, because it was a, I assume a lot of growing years and making your own navigations and probably frustrations.

01:01:36.619 --> 01:01:41.360
Did you, when did you, did you find your husband now husband during these seasons?

01:01:41.369 --> 01:01:42.590
I met him at work.

01:01:42.619 --> 01:01:42.989
Okay.

01:01:42.989 --> 01:01:43.429
Yeah.

01:01:43.570 --> 01:01:44.050
At Fisk?

01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:44.730
No.

01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:45.059
Okay.

01:01:45.170 --> 01:01:46.989
Actually when he pushed me out.

01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:50.670
No, I met him at a headwear company.

01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:51.780
So, okay.

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.030
He, uh, after you finished your degree and whatever, when you're working in the sports apparel firm.

01:01:56.110 --> 01:01:56.420
Yep.

01:01:56.730 --> 01:01:57.380
I met him there.

01:01:57.389 --> 01:01:59.070
He sold the hats and I designed them.

01:01:59.070 --> 01:02:00.230
So, and what's his name?

01:02:00.650 --> 01:02:01.329
John Michael.

01:02:01.409 --> 01:02:02.260
Hi, John Michael.

01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:04.059
I'm sure you'll listen to this probably.

01:02:04.070 --> 01:02:04.690
Yes, he will.

01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.219
And so, uh, and so when was that?

01:02:07.219 --> 01:02:11.108
Circa me, that would have been, Probably like 7 or 8 years ago, 10 years ago now?

01:02:11.108 --> 01:02:12.715
Uh, we got married in 2019.

01:02:12.804 --> 01:02:15.574
Oh, just pretty recently, so right before you started with Fisk, really.

01:02:15.574 --> 01:02:15.614
Yep.

01:02:15.614 --> 01:02:16.965
Yep, just had our 5 year anniversary.

01:02:17.014 --> 01:02:17.405
Okay.

01:02:17.715 --> 01:02:19.425
And you got any littles running around?

01:02:19.594 --> 01:02:21.335
We've got two furry kids.

01:02:21.344 --> 01:02:21.945
Two fur kids?

01:02:22.135 --> 01:02:22.855
Fur babies?

01:02:22.875 --> 01:02:23.195
Yep.

01:02:23.335 --> 01:02:23.835
I like it.

01:02:24.094 --> 01:02:24.565
Heck yeah.

01:02:25.434 --> 01:02:27.175
Always happy to see us when we come home.

01:02:27.655 --> 01:02:38.125
So, um, So we kind of caught you up to speed and, So was that, Like, as you were getting, Um, Like, was it always obvious that you were going to be the exit plan?

01:02:38.204 --> 01:02:40.074
Like buying the company from your cousin?

01:02:40.614 --> 01:02:41.974
Yeah, I think so.

01:02:41.974 --> 01:02:43.505
I mean, he had, he had different goals.

01:02:43.505 --> 01:02:47.614
His goals were to retire by a certain time and have his house paid off by a certain time.

01:02:47.614 --> 01:02:51.445
And those kinds of didn't have as much interest in really growing the company and things like that.

01:02:51.454 --> 01:02:52.114
He did.

01:02:52.284 --> 01:02:55.344
I mean, I think growing the company was important, but I think.

01:02:55.789 --> 01:02:59.980
at a certain point, risk versus reward and those kinds of things.

01:02:59.980 --> 01:03:02.960
And I'm probably, I think we offset each other.

01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:03.380
Great.

01:03:03.409 --> 01:03:04.789
He was super practical.

01:03:04.789 --> 01:03:05.949
He was super smart.

01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.289
He was super financial minded.

01:03:08.289 --> 01:03:11.989
And I was always just kind of out there, gas pedal down all over the floor.

01:03:12.335 --> 01:03:15.125
So I, he kept me in check and I think I pushed him.

01:03:15.184 --> 01:03:16.594
And then you got a CFO for that.

01:03:16.684 --> 01:03:17.434
And Britney.

01:03:17.525 --> 01:03:29.195
Well now, I mean, yeah, that was a five year gap where I probably overextended a little, but, um, Well, and plus I know for me, my risk tolerance has gone down as I've gotten older too.

01:03:29.375 --> 01:03:30.394
I call it nesting.

01:03:30.545 --> 01:03:36.695
And I think older people like to nest and they just bring all their stuff back in and then they want to protect.

01:03:36.695 --> 01:03:39.065
And I've just struggled with that.

01:03:39.065 --> 01:03:39.875
I mean, you've resisted that.

01:03:39.905 --> 01:03:40.144
Yeah.

01:03:40.150 --> 01:03:41.644
I just, I love.

01:03:42.449 --> 01:03:43.429
What's next, right?

01:03:43.429 --> 01:03:43.829
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:43.900 --> 01:03:55.375
I mean, that's just a passion of mine and I love electrical, but I didn't want to Spend my whole life just, you know, saying all I did was put electrical in this house or this building.

01:03:55.474 --> 01:03:55.704
Yeah.

01:03:55.855 --> 01:03:57.474
I wanted kind of greater purpose.

01:03:57.494 --> 01:03:58.164
Hard stuff.

01:03:58.164 --> 01:03:58.644
Yeah.

01:03:58.675 --> 01:04:02.005
And so, I struggled for a while to figure out what that was.

01:04:02.005 --> 01:04:04.385
And sometimes I thought it might be away from electrical.

01:04:04.385 --> 01:04:06.465
And now I feel like it's a perfect fit.

01:04:06.494 --> 01:04:09.934
I mean, all of these next level, next generation things.

01:04:09.934 --> 01:04:11.175
Well, it's all powered by electric.

01:04:11.175 --> 01:04:11.664
Yeah.

01:04:11.864 --> 01:04:12.114
Right.

01:04:12.114 --> 01:04:13.565
I mean, it's all electric, right?

01:04:13.925 --> 01:04:14.304
Totally.

01:04:14.434 --> 01:04:15.775
For me, I mean, uh, EV.

01:04:17.550 --> 01:04:28.429
It's crazy how these things become political or, you know, one side or the other, but electrical vehicles and charging stations, I mean, they're being funded and part of what they do, even carbon credit.

01:04:28.429 --> 01:04:34.969
So we talked about, we'll get to that, but, um, it's fascinating that they can come up with a system that drives.

01:04:35.635 --> 01:04:36.445
innovation.

01:04:36.664 --> 01:04:39.894
And for me, electrical is a part of all of that.

01:04:39.905 --> 01:04:42.974
So I don't have to pick a right or a left, right?

01:04:43.005 --> 01:04:43.375
Totally.

01:04:43.375 --> 01:04:47.445
I'm just saying, look, all this stuff is electricity and I want to be a part of it.

01:04:47.775 --> 01:04:53.744
So, well, I imagine there's a lot of companies that just aren't qualified for some of the leading edge technologies.

01:04:53.954 --> 01:04:57.635
Some of it is they're not qualified just because, yeah, they haven't quite got there.

01:04:57.644 --> 01:04:59.414
They didn't go out and get, you know, spend the money.

01:04:59.414 --> 01:05:00.594
I mean, it's pretty expensive.

01:05:00.594 --> 01:05:03.724
We've been on the bleeding edge of a lot of stuff to get, right?

01:05:04.114 --> 01:05:07.465
The type of training that we needed to be ready.

01:05:07.704 --> 01:05:09.485
And sometimes we're too far ahead.

01:05:10.065 --> 01:05:14.844
Um, you know, smart homes was a thing and we were in that way, way before.

01:05:15.025 --> 01:05:17.804
And you're like in your smart home certification is 10 years ago.

01:05:17.985 --> 01:05:20.074
And finally they're starting to be right.

01:05:20.315 --> 01:05:20.494
Yeah.

01:05:20.494 --> 01:05:25.684
And we have fiber in houses that are never going to use it, but back then everyone thought that was the future.

01:05:25.684 --> 01:05:26.724
So, yeah.

01:05:26.724 --> 01:05:29.695
And you're getting your continuing education and your certification that you never really use.

01:05:29.824 --> 01:05:30.215
Right.

01:05:30.445 --> 01:05:31.224
Paying for those classes.

01:05:31.594 --> 01:05:41.744
But you know, if you're not, if you're not involved in that with the right people and the right companies and always looking forward, then you kind of miss the wave and then you can't hardly ever get caught back up.

01:05:41.755 --> 01:05:54.375
My problem is a lot of times I'm a little too far in front of the wave and not everything we try pans out, but man, there's so much exciting stuff coming right now is a great time to be in electrical.

01:05:54.385 --> 01:06:05.820
Well, in having All of those residential clients and contractors over years and all those commercial clients and all those ag clients, like that's, that takes some of the risk out of that bleeding edge stuff.

01:06:06.050 --> 01:06:06.489
Absolutely.

01:06:06.530 --> 01:06:06.730
Right.

01:06:06.730 --> 01:06:07.829
You can keep the wheels on it.

01:06:07.980 --> 01:06:08.199
Yeah.

01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:09.880
And sometimes it does catch up, right?

01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:10.500
Yeah.

01:06:10.550 --> 01:06:13.039
And then you're like, oh man, I caught the wave.

01:06:13.130 --> 01:06:13.483
Now I'm right.

01:06:13.483 --> 01:06:17.190
With this division's making 35 percent profit margin, everybody else sucks along at seven.

01:06:17.210 --> 01:06:18.599
That's exactly right.

01:06:18.664 --> 01:06:27.525
You know, and you keep that seven just to keep the doors open, you keep going, but it gives you the opportunity to really go out and search for those big waves, right?

01:06:27.744 --> 01:06:39.135
What would you say, uh, both feel free to answer, but what would you say are the big challenges you're working on, either working on or facing, uh, with the organization?

01:06:39.135 --> 01:06:41.835
I've heard kind of the hiring and recruiting and stuff is at least.

01:06:42.414 --> 01:06:50.994
It's something you're working hard on, but what are the, is that, is it people, is the biggest challenge in your industry right now, finding people to train?

01:06:51.945 --> 01:06:54.864
Yeah, I think Britt handles a lot of that.

01:06:54.864 --> 01:07:07.780
I mean, she goes to anything from, you know, the college job fairs to high school type job fairs and those kind of things and really trying to get her name out there and realize that there's, This is an option.

01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:08.519
Your potential pathway.

01:07:09.219 --> 01:07:09.449
Yeah.

01:07:09.449 --> 01:07:10.289
It's not the only.

01:07:10.289 --> 01:07:10.960
It's not better.

01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:11.710
It's not worse.

01:07:11.710 --> 01:07:13.949
It's just, you know, if it fits, it fits.

01:07:13.949 --> 01:07:22.570
And trying to be, trying to be that, how, how we arrange our booth, how we advertise, how we recruit, all of those things, Brittany handles all that.

01:07:22.635 --> 01:07:36.474
Usually we'll send one of the directors, either Matt or Ryan, we'll go with her and then they can talk the electrical talk and she can kind of make the place look nice and, you know, figure out how to, it seems like you might have to do a six month internship in the field.

01:07:38.054 --> 01:07:38.405
Right.

01:07:39.394 --> 01:07:40.454
Maybe six days.

01:07:41.764 --> 01:07:41.994
Easier.

01:07:42.335 --> 01:07:42.894
Easier as hell.

01:07:43.065 --> 01:07:43.454
Yeah.

01:07:43.485 --> 01:07:51.005
But I think that, you know, there's just, there's just a lot of those kinds of things out there and, and trying to understand what's next.

01:07:51.065 --> 01:07:53.385
my biggest challenges.

01:07:53.864 --> 01:07:58.684
Um, you know, I didn't, you don't always see where things are going to be.

01:07:58.684 --> 01:08:01.730
I mean, You know, solar has been around a long time.

01:08:01.739 --> 01:08:02.050
Sure.

01:08:02.289 --> 01:08:07.469
And it's been, you know, funded in the past and it's crashed and burned in the past.

01:08:07.469 --> 01:08:11.219
And now you start to see it coming back and then you see it being funded again.

01:08:11.219 --> 01:08:16.369
But all of those things generate interest and interest generates people.

01:08:16.524 --> 01:08:18.744
You know, people spend money and yeah.

01:08:19.164 --> 01:08:23.375
And so that's, you know, do we want to participate?

01:08:23.385 --> 01:08:27.414
And I think that's the part that I spend the most time on is trying to decide what's next.

01:08:27.414 --> 01:08:31.550
And, you know, what looks like the opportunity that we need to be ready for.

01:08:31.859 --> 01:08:39.489
What should we be involved in from being a responsible electrician and person and sustainable and profitable, all those things.

01:08:39.859 --> 01:08:43.970
But then, you know, what, at the end of the day, where's electrical going to look?

01:08:44.010 --> 01:08:50.140
I mean, there was a time in the recent past where people were saying, well, there's not even going to be electricity light fixtures.

01:08:50.140 --> 01:08:54.369
It's all going to be low voltage and electricians won't even be involved.

01:08:54.380 --> 01:08:59.800
Well, that kind of, there's still low voltage lighting options, but it's still, it's a piece of the whole.

01:08:59.930 --> 01:09:00.609
Interesting.

01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:01.189
Yeah.

01:09:01.189 --> 01:09:04.180
And so I think that that's kind of where things go.

01:09:04.180 --> 01:09:09.829
And I mean, it's how do we generate power and you know, it's not, we're not anti fossil fuels.

01:09:09.829 --> 01:09:13.100
I mean, we know that it has to happen.

01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:21.539
There's not enough of an option to not have that, but there's still a lot of other things that are being looked into and invented and I want to be a part of that too.

01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:28.350
So we work on coal power plants and kind of the worst way to use oil is to make electricity.

01:09:28.350 --> 01:09:28.369
Yeah.

01:09:28.670 --> 01:09:29.060
Yeah.

01:09:29.109 --> 01:09:29.689
Directly.

01:09:29.739 --> 01:09:30.010
Right.

01:09:30.020 --> 01:09:32.260
Like we got all these other ways to make electricity.

01:09:32.270 --> 01:09:32.300
Right.

01:09:32.340 --> 01:09:35.500
Whereas oil can, you can make airplanes go through the sky.

01:09:35.500 --> 01:09:36.210
Right.

01:09:36.210 --> 01:09:36.430
Right.

01:09:36.430 --> 01:09:37.739
And do a lot of really cool stuff.

01:09:37.869 --> 01:09:38.119
Right.

01:09:38.409 --> 01:09:38.760
Yeah.

01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:39.220
Yeah.

01:09:39.220 --> 01:09:43.489
And so we're just, I mean, you know, a lot of these, these initiatives are great.

01:09:44.590 --> 01:10:26.909
I think, you know, Glimpses into what the future might be and it drives innovation What we want to do is be part of where we are now and hopefully where we're going to be Yeah, so solar is a big part of that and biogas is a big part of that any kind of renewable energy Um, but not trying to pick one over the other because it's going to take all of that It takes what we have plus then enough funding Electricity is like the only way we can really move energy around right now very I mean Aside from minutes Liquid form right or in coal on trains or whatever, but the but active ready to you That's a we could use that for your marketing like ready to use energy, right?

01:10:29.140 --> 01:10:31.479
And understanding the light was on vehicles, right?

01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:33.939
I mean, oh, yeah, some people are super passionate about it.

01:10:33.949 --> 01:10:36.699
Other people hate it Yeah, but the fact is it's here.

01:10:36.949 --> 01:10:38.350
So how are we gonna be able to?

01:10:38.890 --> 01:10:41.029
How are we going to charge all these vehicles?

01:10:41.100 --> 01:10:41.479
Totally.

01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:41.930
Totally.

01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:46.000
So it's, it's us being able to provide these EV chargers.

01:10:46.140 --> 01:10:46.899
That's a big thing.

01:10:47.020 --> 01:10:47.170
Yeah.

01:10:47.569 --> 01:10:58.229
But also, I mean, some of the smaller homes are having some of the largest size services in new construction because of, you know, Electric vehicles, chargers.

01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:05.430
So, I mean, we went from an electric heat pumps, a home that was 125 amps, say 15 years ago is 400 amps.

01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:06.050
Oh, no shit.

01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:06.430
Yeah.

01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:07.100
Oh, interesting.

01:11:07.130 --> 01:11:08.170
So 400 amps.

01:11:08.170 --> 01:11:10.180
I mean, we're, where's all that power coming from?

01:11:10.189 --> 01:11:10.739
Right.

01:11:10.770 --> 01:11:12.789
Well, that's, that's not my job to figure out.

01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:14.680
My job is to say, Hey, you need 400 amps.

01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:15.939
I'm going to figure out how to get you 400 amps.

01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:16.729
Right.

01:11:16.770 --> 01:11:17.140
Right.

01:11:17.369 --> 01:11:22.750
But hopefully we're playing enough in the future to we can say, Hey, maybe we can add solar just for a year.

01:11:22.779 --> 01:11:24.545
Reduce that amp draw down a little bit.

01:11:24.545 --> 01:11:26.439
And maybe that's just your EV charger.

01:11:26.510 --> 01:11:26.829
Right.

01:11:26.829 --> 01:11:27.989
I dig it.

01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:39.119
Um, Brittany, if, uh, some competing electric, Merritt Electric came along and offered you a double your salary to come to work for them, what would you say?

01:11:39.420 --> 01:11:41.000
Ooh, that's a hard question.

01:11:41.810 --> 01:11:42.500
No, just kidding.

01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:44.810
I, uh, I said it earlier.

01:11:44.810 --> 01:11:45.770
Like there's something of.

01:11:46.729 --> 01:11:53.715
Something that you can't even put into words, really, about the kind of pride, knowing that That's your name.

01:11:53.725 --> 01:11:55.185
That's your, your legacy.

01:11:55.185 --> 01:11:56.185
You know, that's your dad.

01:11:56.194 --> 01:11:58.295
That's your family's company.

01:11:58.395 --> 01:11:58.784
Yeah.

01:11:58.824 --> 01:12:05.965
Yeah There's not enough money to okay, and I knew I knew Rice was one of my best clients.

01:12:06.005 --> 01:12:07.005
Oh my banking days.

01:12:07.005 --> 01:12:07.404
Yeah.

01:12:07.975 --> 01:12:08.234
Yeah.

01:12:08.395 --> 01:12:20.935
I mean, it's so cool to look back And it's part of the pride for us too, is I think we, you know, we look at some of the, the big names either in the past or the present and seeing that history and how they came back.

01:12:20.935 --> 01:12:27.895
And some of them have figured out how to, to, you know, kind of evolve and what their succession planning was.

01:12:27.895 --> 01:12:28.875
And some of them just kind of.

01:12:29.289 --> 01:12:36.010
Shut the doors and and moved on and some of those were the largest companies when I started back in the 80s, right?

01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:43.279
No, I've heard more than a few stories about Roy's from the especially the pre 2007 8 days great.

01:12:43.489 --> 01:12:52.869
I mean that guy was so innovative when he stormed into our area We were just, I mean, I'm talking from the little guy looking up and thinking, wow, that guy did something amazing.

01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:59.079
While Merritt was, like, I, two of our best guys went to work for him in the past.

01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:00.779
And it was under good terms.

01:13:00.779 --> 01:13:04.100
They left and it was a super good, you know, experience for them.

01:13:04.100 --> 01:13:05.020
And I think both of them.

01:13:05.425 --> 01:13:09.425
Um, you know, took that and actually catapulted themselves into their own careers.

01:13:10.255 --> 01:13:10.515
Yeah.

01:13:10.564 --> 01:13:10.824
Yeah.

01:13:11.074 --> 01:13:17.774
Oh, I remember, uh, him talking about like, there are seasons where, you know, if you could fog a mirror and you had a driver's license, you got the job.

01:13:17.854 --> 01:13:18.354
Absolutely.

01:13:19.244 --> 01:13:19.994
Absolutely.

01:13:20.005 --> 01:13:21.614
All you had to do is have a pulse.

01:13:21.854 --> 01:13:21.944
Right?

01:13:22.435 --> 01:13:23.265
And a driver's license.

01:13:23.265 --> 01:13:23.689
There you go.

01:13:23.689 --> 01:13:25.185
Because you're always going to be able to drive a truck.

01:13:25.545 --> 01:13:27.173
Or you just hire a guy to drive it.

01:13:27.173 --> 01:13:27.502
Right.

01:13:27.502 --> 01:13:29.715
Put him in a sidekick's pedal.

01:13:30.265 --> 01:13:34.164
Um, well, I feel like maybe we can take a short break and we'll come into the closing segments.

01:13:34.470 --> 01:13:34.710
Good.

01:13:34.779 --> 01:13:35.609
All right, we'll be right back.

01:14:19.011 --> 01:14:27.792
And we are back, uh, always the favorite closing segments, um, Faith, Family, Politics are the mandatory topics.

01:14:27.891 --> 01:14:28.311
Right.

01:14:28.391 --> 01:14:32.131
Uh, we've talked a fair bit about family, do you want to start there?

01:14:32.801 --> 01:14:35.051
Yeah, I mean, faith and family, I think, has been huge.

01:14:35.051 --> 01:14:35.971
They're tied together for you?

01:14:36.021 --> 01:14:37.362
Yeah, we talked about that.

01:14:37.362 --> 01:14:39.931
I mean, my grandfather was a preacher and a dairy farmer.

01:14:40.002 --> 01:14:40.492
Oh, is that right?

01:14:40.521 --> 01:14:40.612
Okay.

01:14:40.612 --> 01:14:42.792
Weird kind of combination.

01:14:42.792 --> 01:14:49.862
But, um, yeah, so it's, it's both faith, primarily, and family, you know, equally.

01:14:49.872 --> 01:14:54.011
Well, and even like your decision to homeschool your kids, was that driven by faith?

01:14:54.237 --> 01:14:56.106
faith driven by family connected?

01:14:56.106 --> 01:14:56.827
Like, how, how did that?

01:14:56.947 --> 01:15:03.327
I think they kind of, they, they kind of boosted that, but we really just, my wife wanted to teach our kids.

01:15:03.436 --> 01:15:03.886
Okay.

01:15:03.907 --> 01:15:11.136
So we, uh, we just thought, Hey, through grade school, it wasn't a, I mean, my, both my dad and my, my step mom.

01:15:11.136 --> 01:15:12.877
So my mom passed away when I was young.

01:15:12.997 --> 01:15:13.306
Okay.

01:15:13.537 --> 01:15:16.537
Um, and then my dad remarried a school teacher.

01:15:16.537 --> 01:15:22.846
So both of them were school teachers and we were a little nervous about, what homeschooling might mean to them.

01:15:22.877 --> 01:15:23.186
Right.

01:15:23.256 --> 01:15:25.837
They supported it a hundred percent and they said, Hey, it's great.

01:15:26.426 --> 01:15:32.947
Um, we did it because my wife wanted to do it and because I knew that they were going to get a great education.

01:15:33.197 --> 01:15:37.947
So our, our kind of goal was through, you know, grade school.

01:15:38.686 --> 01:15:41.867
And then each one had different time frames.

01:15:42.447 --> 01:15:47.046
And so, um, Britt was super social and very involved in sports.

01:15:47.046 --> 01:15:50.346
And so we got her into, into school early.

01:15:50.367 --> 01:15:52.896
I mean, we, we got her in at what, 7th grade?

01:15:53.466 --> 01:15:54.636
Eighth grade is when I started.

01:15:54.716 --> 01:15:56.537
Eighth grade, she started public school.

01:15:56.646 --> 01:15:57.407
How were you?

01:15:57.777 --> 01:15:58.877
Uh, were you prepared?

01:15:59.546 --> 01:16:00.756
Or were you ahead of everybody?

01:16:00.886 --> 01:16:01.407
It was so boring.

01:16:02.237 --> 01:16:03.067
It was so boring.

01:16:03.676 --> 01:16:07.476
I just remember sitting in math class and being like, I learned this in like, first grade.

01:16:08.907 --> 01:16:10.016
You're like a seventh grader.

01:16:10.327 --> 01:16:11.327
Right, right.

01:16:11.327 --> 01:16:11.676
Fair.

01:16:11.716 --> 01:16:18.971
Yeah, my son, um, it was kind of funny because we actually had him repeat one grade because of Age and stuff.

01:16:19.542 --> 01:16:21.521
So he was super bored the first year.

01:16:21.532 --> 01:16:21.971
Right.

01:16:22.091 --> 01:16:28.671
But I mean, public education was great and, and they had all kinds of opportunities that we couldn't provide for them.

01:16:28.671 --> 01:16:35.641
So, uh, yeah, it wasn't so much a religious decision or, uh, not confident in.

01:16:36.056 --> 01:16:39.886
The school system, like now that's the main reason is to keep them, get them out of there.

01:16:40.186 --> 01:16:45.636
Honestly, I'll give, I'll give preps to birth that I thought they had a great public school system.

01:16:45.686 --> 01:16:47.796
I mean, it was a close knit group.

01:16:47.846 --> 01:16:51.396
It was more to give your wife the opportunity to do that thing that she kind of wanted to do.

01:16:51.676 --> 01:16:54.606
And I thought our kids got as good or better.

01:16:55.051 --> 01:16:55.402
Right.

01:16:55.851 --> 01:16:59.641
That kind of thing because we hung out with them and we got to do a lot of cool stuff.

01:16:59.662 --> 01:17:05.152
But, I wouldn't trade the, you know, the public side of it for anything, I think.

01:17:05.181 --> 01:17:07.692
Where did you, uh, where did you find Mrs.

01:17:07.702 --> 01:17:08.221
Fisk?

01:17:09.902 --> 01:17:10.931
I didn't hear that part of the story.

01:17:10.931 --> 01:17:13.141
We gotta go back and find her somewhere along that timeline.

01:17:13.141 --> 01:17:14.221
So, faith and family tie in, right?

01:17:14.221 --> 01:17:22.021
So, I, uh, I was a little bit of a troubled kid in my, uh, my late high school and graduation times in Alaska.

01:17:22.021 --> 01:17:28.447
And so, my dad had talked to the local police, and they said, hey, it'd probably be best if, uh, Kevin got out of town.

01:17:29.186 --> 01:17:29.617
Okay.

01:17:29.917 --> 01:17:31.216
Let's hear more about these troubles.

01:17:31.226 --> 01:17:32.157
Nah, it's good.

01:17:32.247 --> 01:17:41.146
Um, but anyways, so he put me on a plane and I came down and my, uh, my aunt and uncle, Virgin Yolanda, picked me up.

01:17:41.256 --> 01:17:45.296
Oh, so you, cause you left to go to Arizona for some school and then you came back.

01:17:45.296 --> 01:17:46.237
Yeah, and I came back to Alaska.

01:17:46.237 --> 01:17:49.627
And the local sheriff was like a constable or whatever it was like, get the hell out of here.

01:17:49.627 --> 01:17:50.056
Yeah, that's right.

01:17:50.056 --> 01:17:50.737
I thought you left.

01:17:50.737 --> 01:17:51.056
Yeah.

01:17:51.277 --> 01:17:53.006
Which is the whole Alaska thing, right?

01:17:53.016 --> 01:17:53.037
Yeah.

01:17:53.046 --> 01:17:58.652
But, um, Yeah, so they picked me up and we ate Wendy's and went straight to church.

01:17:58.671 --> 01:17:59.551
It was on a Sunday.

01:17:59.631 --> 01:17:59.952
Okay.

01:17:59.971 --> 01:18:00.931
Sunday night, right?

01:18:00.962 --> 01:18:01.332
Right.

01:18:01.341 --> 01:18:05.162
So, my family went to church Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesdays.

01:18:05.261 --> 01:18:05.641
Okay.

01:18:05.742 --> 01:18:07.112
It was just kind of what they did.

01:18:07.112 --> 01:18:09.072
Your family or your new family?

01:18:09.271 --> 01:18:09.561
Both.

01:18:09.622 --> 01:18:09.971
Okay.

01:18:10.032 --> 01:18:12.131
So, yeah, my grandpa was a preacher.

01:18:12.221 --> 01:18:12.752
Yeah, yeah.

01:18:12.752 --> 01:18:13.212
And so all four.

01:18:13.212 --> 01:18:14.971
And you were raised that way through Alaska and stuff too.

01:18:14.971 --> 01:18:15.181
Yeah, yeah.

01:18:15.181 --> 01:18:15.761
Exactly.

01:18:15.771 --> 01:18:20.436
And so, yeah, so my Sunday night, I was really tired, been up all night.

01:18:20.966 --> 01:18:27.886
I hung out with a lot of my friends the night before, you know, in Alaska and, uh, went to church and met my future wife.

01:18:27.966 --> 01:18:28.457
Just right there.

01:18:28.457 --> 01:18:28.686
Yeah.

01:18:28.686 --> 01:18:30.806
My cousin said, this is, it will be your wife.

01:18:31.237 --> 01:18:35.737
And it sounds funny because it wasn't, it's not like prearranged or anything.

01:18:36.186 --> 01:18:39.707
He just really liked her and he said, she's perfect for you.

01:18:39.856 --> 01:18:45.067
And yeah, so I mean, that was like, I came down in late April.

01:18:45.252 --> 01:18:45.551
Okay.

01:18:45.551 --> 01:18:47.811
And we went on our first date in July.

01:18:47.942 --> 01:18:48.311
Okay.

01:18:48.322 --> 01:18:49.362
July 22nd.

01:18:49.462 --> 01:18:49.912
Alright.

01:18:50.021 --> 01:18:52.402
And, uh, she was still, she was younger than me.

01:18:52.761 --> 01:18:54.452
And three years later we got married.

01:18:54.591 --> 01:18:54.822
Okay.

01:18:54.822 --> 01:18:55.431
So, yeah.

01:18:55.442 --> 01:19:00.771
Well, and you forgot the part where Clifford called my mom.

01:19:00.952 --> 01:19:01.521
Oh, right.

01:19:01.641 --> 01:19:03.752
And gave the phone to him is like, here, take it.

01:19:03.881 --> 01:19:04.101
Yeah.

01:19:05.271 --> 01:19:05.542
Yeah.

01:19:05.542 --> 01:19:07.782
He was just convinced he was going to be my girlfriend.

01:19:07.841 --> 01:19:08.652
Interesting.

01:19:09.221 --> 01:19:12.141
And how did your, how did your mom respond to this?

01:19:13.692 --> 01:19:14.341
She married me.

01:19:14.372 --> 01:19:14.641
Yeah.

01:19:15.492 --> 01:19:16.362
Didn't take too long.

01:19:16.372 --> 01:19:17.561
No, yeah, it was great.

01:19:17.561 --> 01:19:19.551
I mean, there's nothing I would do different.

01:19:19.622 --> 01:19:20.872
It's amazing.

01:19:20.872 --> 01:19:24.261
But that's she, she went to the same church I did.

01:19:24.511 --> 01:19:26.015
Kind of easy from the start.

01:19:26.015 --> 01:19:26.519
Yeah.

01:19:26.519 --> 01:19:27.021
Yeah.

01:19:27.021 --> 01:19:28.622
So just non denominational.

01:19:28.877 --> 01:19:29.617
Christian Church.

01:19:30.306 --> 01:19:31.936
Do you want to give a shout out to that church?

01:19:31.936 --> 01:19:32.606
Is it still around?

01:19:32.657 --> 01:19:33.006
Yeah.

01:19:33.006 --> 01:19:34.697
It's, uh, Loveland Church of Christ.

01:19:34.877 --> 01:19:35.157
Okay.

01:19:35.167 --> 01:19:37.987
And, yeah, it was just, uh, a lot of people confuse that with Mormons.

01:19:38.006 --> 01:19:40.006
Not that that's a bad thing, but we're not Mormon.

01:19:40.006 --> 01:19:40.716
Different than that.

01:19:40.716 --> 01:19:40.837
Yeah.

01:19:40.837 --> 01:19:41.167
Right?

01:19:41.356 --> 01:19:43.997
We're just a non denominational Church of Christ.

01:19:44.117 --> 01:19:44.367
Okay.

01:19:44.367 --> 01:19:51.253
And great community, and have friends to this day that have, uh, just been a part of our life for the last four years.

01:19:51.253 --> 01:19:56.136
And is that, was that, like, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, Grandfather, was he Church of Christ as well?

01:19:56.207 --> 01:20:00.846
Yeah, so he used to, he used to dance on, uh, bar table tops.

01:20:00.846 --> 01:20:02.087
He was a very small man.

01:20:02.287 --> 01:20:02.587
Okay.

01:20:02.596 --> 01:20:03.497
And played the fiddle.

01:20:03.537 --> 01:20:03.787
Okay.

01:20:03.907 --> 01:20:04.966
And that's how he made money.

01:20:05.056 --> 01:20:05.567
Alright.

01:20:05.636 --> 01:20:09.192
And got converted in some old time Tent revival.

01:20:09.221 --> 01:20:10.061
Oh, interesting.

01:20:10.091 --> 01:20:12.641
And became a preacher in the churches of Christ.

01:20:12.646 --> 01:20:14.891
And that was, uh, yeah, just stuck.

01:20:14.891 --> 01:20:19.452
All, all four of his sons were active members of the Church of Christ.

01:20:19.452 --> 01:20:24.252
And, uh, you know, majority of the kids from there on have been involved.

01:20:24.341 --> 01:20:28.242
And I'm gonna guess that Fisk is a dramatic name maybe, but I don't know English.

01:20:28.301 --> 01:20:29.591
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.

01:20:29.596 --> 01:20:34.091
So we have, we have a pretty interesting history, um, English.

01:20:34.742 --> 01:20:37.212
So, but by way of the Vikings.

01:20:37.612 --> 01:20:38.431
Oh, interesting.

01:20:38.442 --> 01:20:41.152
So, Scandinavian, very Scandinavian.

01:20:41.221 --> 01:20:41.631
Okay.

01:20:42.082 --> 01:20:44.192
When they assimilated into England.

01:20:44.282 --> 01:20:44.561
Yeah, yeah.

01:20:44.561 --> 01:20:50.402
Um, the, the first, uh, American pilot shot down in World War II was Billy Fisk.

01:20:50.412 --> 01:20:50.442
Okay.

01:20:51.096 --> 01:20:54.846
And he was an Olympic bobsled gold medalist.

01:20:54.997 --> 01:20:55.407
Yeah, yeah.

01:20:55.447 --> 01:21:01.567
And, you got the, you got more of the English genes, and Britt got more of the Scandinavian genes with her high hair.

01:21:01.707 --> 01:21:02.146
That's right.

01:21:02.146 --> 01:21:02.216
That's right.

01:21:03.346 --> 01:21:05.377
The Viking blood runs strong in you.

01:21:05.577 --> 01:21:06.256
That's right.

01:21:06.756 --> 01:21:12.067
Uh, but one of the things we always ask is a one word description of the children.

01:21:13.452 --> 01:21:17.662
Uh, so you've got, uh, a daughter and, and two sons, Kevin.

01:21:17.662 --> 01:21:19.311
Would you care to start that first?

01:21:19.971 --> 01:21:21.841
No, well, one word for each.

01:21:21.881 --> 01:21:22.681
We need one word for each.

01:21:22.681 --> 01:21:24.152
Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.

01:21:25.431 --> 01:21:25.591
I love it.

01:21:25.591 --> 01:21:29.421
My kids, I just, I'm so happy they take after their mom.

01:21:29.712 --> 01:21:30.231
Fair enough.

01:21:30.341 --> 01:21:30.771
Yeah.

01:21:31.091 --> 01:21:36.021
And I remember your husband has a, has a double first name kind of thing.

01:21:36.032 --> 01:21:36.511
John Michael.

01:21:36.511 --> 01:21:37.332
John Michael.

01:21:37.652 --> 01:21:37.681
Yes.

01:21:37.692 --> 01:21:39.962
Um, so you told us kind of about.

01:21:40.417 --> 01:21:41.747
Uh, finding him.

01:21:42.207 --> 01:21:46.197
Um, what was it about John Michael that you thought was extra neat?

01:21:46.617 --> 01:21:48.396
Oh man, uh, there's a lot.

01:21:48.466 --> 01:21:53.067
He, uh, He just, spirit about him.

01:21:53.067 --> 01:22:01.027
Like he is just, when you talk to him, he can talk to anybody, but he just captivates the room and just a genuinely good guy.

01:22:01.207 --> 01:22:05.747
Like they, I think a lot of people probably say this, but like, he's truly my best friend.

01:22:06.337 --> 01:22:10.606
A lot of times you have go, I have to go hang out with my girlfriend cause I just need a break.

01:22:11.037 --> 01:22:11.886
It is not like that.

01:22:11.886 --> 01:22:13.676
Like he is just genuinely my best friend.

01:22:13.997 --> 01:22:15.306
My very favorite.

01:22:16.402 --> 01:22:18.021
Very favorite son in law.

01:22:18.752 --> 01:22:22.412
You're only saying he's a good dude.

01:22:22.462 --> 01:22:24.752
Um, remind me, where did you find him again?

01:22:25.082 --> 01:22:26.332
At work at work.

01:22:26.332 --> 01:22:26.542
Yeah.

01:22:26.542 --> 01:22:28.811
That was right before you came on to Fisk team.

01:22:29.171 --> 01:22:30.412
And what does he do for work?

01:22:30.572 --> 01:22:34.261
He is a sales representative for a headwear and apparel company.

01:22:34.381 --> 01:22:34.731
Okay.

01:22:34.731 --> 01:22:36.311
So, so he stayed in the industry.

01:22:36.322 --> 01:22:37.332
He stayed in the industry.

01:22:37.332 --> 01:22:37.532
Yeah.

01:22:37.532 --> 01:22:37.702
Yeah.

01:22:37.702 --> 01:22:38.051
Yeah.

01:22:38.832 --> 01:22:39.391
Likes it.

01:22:39.542 --> 01:22:40.242
Oh, he loves it.

01:22:40.242 --> 01:22:44.667
I mean, you Sell hats and t shirts to NHL, NBA teams.

01:22:44.667 --> 01:22:45.337
Yeah, cool.

01:22:45.806 --> 01:22:46.947
Not a Pretty fun gig.

01:22:46.957 --> 01:22:47.877
Yeah, not too bad.

01:22:47.976 --> 01:22:48.396
I dig it.

01:22:48.657 --> 01:22:53.587
Um, what, uh, do you have one word descriptions for your fur babies?

01:22:54.067 --> 01:22:56.197
And a little bit beyond that too, if you'd like to go.

01:22:56.216 --> 01:22:57.917
Ooh, one word description.

01:22:57.947 --> 01:23:00.306
Are they dogs, by the way, or cats, or?

01:23:00.747 --> 01:23:02.896
I would say Yeah, they're dogs.

01:23:02.926 --> 01:23:05.186
Um And one for each, by the way.

01:23:05.256 --> 01:23:05.756
One for each?

01:23:05.756 --> 01:23:06.362
Oh man, you're putting me on the spot.

01:23:06.362 --> 01:23:06.947
Yes, one word.

01:23:06.947 --> 01:23:07.987
It could be an adjective.

01:23:07.997 --> 01:23:10.737
You can share their breed type, their names.

01:23:10.737 --> 01:23:11.676
One is Sweet.

01:23:11.686 --> 01:23:15.266
She's like a pitbull, boxer, German shepherd, total mutt.

01:23:15.337 --> 01:23:19.306
But she is big and everyone's scared of her, but she is Her name's Peyton.

01:23:19.306 --> 01:23:20.096
Her name's Peyton.

01:23:20.146 --> 01:23:21.037
This is a big sweetheart.

01:23:21.067 --> 01:23:23.806
She's scared of her own farts.

01:23:23.806 --> 01:23:25.716
I've had some dog farts I was pretty scared of, too.

01:23:25.787 --> 01:23:26.987
It's their, yeah.

01:23:27.756 --> 01:23:28.157
No.

01:23:28.356 --> 01:23:30.386
And then we have a little chihuahua poodle.

01:23:30.386 --> 01:23:30.452
They're adorable.

01:23:30.452 --> 01:23:35.011
His name is Dexter, and the name Dexter definitely fits his personality.

01:23:35.021 --> 01:23:37.891
He, uh, he thinks that he's a killer.

01:23:38.252 --> 01:23:40.981
And so everybody wants to touch the cute little one and he'll bite your finger off.

01:23:41.011 --> 01:23:46.442
Right, well it is like, plus my, my sister will kick your butt if you mess around with me.

01:23:47.431 --> 01:23:51.271
Um, So that was, I guess we covered family pretty well.

01:23:51.271 --> 01:23:52.902
Anything else in the family segment?

01:23:52.931 --> 01:23:56.862
Are you guys, you gonna bring some more little fisks around?

01:23:57.091 --> 01:24:00.372
You're like 35 now, even though I thought you were 27 or something.

01:24:00.561 --> 01:24:01.902
Right, no.

01:24:01.902 --> 01:24:02.181
No, uh.

01:24:02.192 --> 01:24:03.771
Like it's time to pull a goalie if you're gonna.

01:24:03.841 --> 01:24:05.692
That's what everybody keeps telling us.

01:24:05.692 --> 01:24:08.832
I, I don't know, I feel like we both love what we do.

01:24:08.891 --> 01:24:09.162
Yeah.

01:24:09.261 --> 01:24:20.317
And, I think if you have kids, you need to Be willing to make them your number one priority and feel like the longer we go without kids the The more selfish we get almost.

01:24:20.646 --> 01:24:21.867
We get stuck in our routines.

01:24:22.756 --> 01:24:24.197
We love everything about our life.

01:24:24.216 --> 01:24:27.067
And as of today, we don't want to change anything.

01:24:27.096 --> 01:24:31.516
But, I feel like we're on this in between of we know the clock's ticking.

01:24:31.527 --> 01:24:31.997
Right, right.

01:24:32.117 --> 01:24:33.027
Tick tock, tick tock.

01:24:33.037 --> 01:24:34.152
So we have that conversation.

01:24:34.152 --> 01:24:37.907
One of our youngest, Brian, and his wife Alyssa are expecting.

01:24:37.917 --> 01:24:42.537
Oh! We were super young parents, and we're kind of super old grandparents.

01:24:42.606 --> 01:24:43.556
Yeah, and I shifted it.

01:24:43.556 --> 01:24:46.457
I didn't give you, oh, you said fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.

01:24:46.457 --> 01:24:46.667
Right.

01:24:47.106 --> 01:24:49.367
So our youngest, Brian, runs the dairy farm.

01:24:49.386 --> 01:24:49.907
Yeah, okay.

01:24:50.006 --> 01:24:54.587
He's very involved in agriculture, and him and his wife are expecting their first kid.

01:24:54.596 --> 01:24:54.636
Awesome.

01:24:54.636 --> 01:24:55.146
That'll be your first grandchild?

01:24:55.146 --> 01:24:55.917
That'll be our first grandchild.

01:24:56.136 --> 01:24:56.296
Okay.

01:24:57.002 --> 01:24:59.851
Yep, and they're expecting in January, so it's exciting.

01:24:59.981 --> 01:25:01.551
And then the middle son?

01:25:02.002 --> 01:25:09.532
Steven, yep, he's married to Stacey, and so he's the one that's working in all kinds of stuff, uh, IT and Local here?

01:25:09.761 --> 01:25:16.322
Uh, yeah, so all three kids live within about 15 minutes of us, so Do you guys have big Christmases and things like that?

01:25:16.322 --> 01:25:21.402
Yeah, we have a, we have a cabin up in, uh Right on the border of Colorado and Wyoming.

01:25:21.442 --> 01:25:21.681
Okay.

01:25:21.731 --> 01:25:27.921
And, yeah, everybody comes up every year and we all live, I mean, we live, she lives five minutes from me.

01:25:27.921 --> 01:25:28.532
Yeah.

01:25:28.532 --> 01:25:33.572
And the dairy's 15 minutes from me and Stephen lives 15 minutes from me, so.

01:25:33.872 --> 01:25:37.712
And all the, the kids didn't start at Fisk.

01:25:38.311 --> 01:25:42.712
but had worked at Fisk and it's kind of just a legacy thing, right?

01:25:42.742 --> 01:25:49.822
Like if you've been a part of Fisk at some point in time, you're still on the, uh, whatever the employee calendar or something.

01:25:49.942 --> 01:25:50.271
Right.

01:25:50.862 --> 01:25:51.311
I dig it.

01:25:51.671 --> 01:26:04.591
Um, so we've talked a little bit about faith, but, uh, my sense is that faith has been, you know, just consistent through your family, almost a kind of, uh, expectation, at least from your perspective, Kevin, is that right?

01:26:05.622 --> 01:26:09.492
I don't want to say an afterthought because that sounds demeaning.

01:26:10.492 --> 01:26:12.332
I mean, it's just, it's a part of our life.

01:26:12.341 --> 01:26:16.962
Even though you were a hooligan for a few years there, you didn't really question your faith necessarily.

01:26:16.962 --> 01:26:19.801
You were just counteracting it with your actions.

01:26:20.252 --> 01:26:20.641
Yeah.

01:26:20.752 --> 01:26:21.032
Okay.

01:26:21.032 --> 01:26:24.282
I had my, my issues growing up for sure.

01:26:24.362 --> 01:26:29.952
And, um, but yeah, I mean, never, Quit believing in God and Jesus and in faith.

01:26:29.952 --> 01:26:32.192
And it's a huge part of what we do.

01:26:32.231 --> 01:26:34.421
And, and it's not just on Sundays.

01:26:34.452 --> 01:26:37.021
I mean, we live that faith every day.

01:26:37.591 --> 01:26:45.112
Um, and I think that's important in business is that, you know, you want to, you want to treat your employees, right.

01:26:45.162 --> 01:26:46.752
You want to treat your customers, right.

01:26:46.962 --> 01:26:51.492
Um, and I think that drives every single decision we make.

01:26:51.572 --> 01:26:55.572
Are you, uh, public within your organization about your faith?

01:26:55.591 --> 01:26:56.311
You mentioned hope.

01:26:56.646 --> 01:27:03.167
Like your uncle and your cousin were kind of word on their sleeve maybe a little bit more than you or what are your employees?

01:27:03.752 --> 01:27:04.362
Know about your faith?

01:27:04.362 --> 01:27:04.364
I hope so.

01:27:04.697 --> 01:27:06.737
I mean, I think for sure that people know.

01:27:06.796 --> 01:27:07.127
Yeah.

01:27:07.127 --> 01:27:09.346
I mean, I try to make that forefront.

01:27:09.377 --> 01:27:09.646
Right.

01:27:09.886 --> 01:27:09.947
Okay.

01:27:10.006 --> 01:27:10.546
So yeah.

01:27:10.936 --> 01:27:14.896
People know we don't, you know, we don't talk certain ways.

01:27:14.902 --> 01:27:14.962
Yeah.

01:27:14.966 --> 01:27:20.806
And there's a reason we don't talk certain ways and we don't act certain ways, and there's a reason we don't act certain ways.

01:27:20.811 --> 01:27:22.067
And so, yeah.

01:27:22.127 --> 01:27:27.287
I, I think it's, uh, I hope that it's, it's, you know, the first thing you notice about.

01:27:27.792 --> 01:27:31.952
Our family and, and the legacy that, that my cousin and my uncle left me.

01:27:31.962 --> 01:27:32.242
Yeah.

01:27:32.801 --> 01:27:34.021
Brittany, I see you nodding.

01:27:34.032 --> 01:27:36.731
Uh, has that been consistent with, with your journey?

01:27:36.731 --> 01:27:42.601
Or did you have a, you have a, uh, don't come back to town kind of moment from any of your college days or anything like that?

01:27:42.612 --> 01:27:45.091
No, I feel like You weren't quite as much trouble as your dad?

01:27:45.212 --> 01:27:46.011
I was, I was not.

01:27:46.011 --> 01:27:47.412
I was the total opposite.

01:27:47.412 --> 01:27:54.902
I feel like I, uh, again, basketball, I was always worried I was gonna get in trouble or do something to mess my scholarship up.

01:27:54.902 --> 01:27:55.681
So I was Right.

01:27:55.681 --> 01:27:55.752
Right.

01:27:56.112 --> 01:27:59.521
Probably more straight and narrow than, than a lot, too.

01:27:59.731 --> 01:28:03.202
Well, and her husband's family is extremely, uh, spiritual.

01:28:03.292 --> 01:28:03.582
Yeah.

01:28:03.792 --> 01:28:06.162
So, I mean, that's been a, a great thing, too.

01:28:06.162 --> 01:28:06.601
Yep.

01:28:06.601 --> 01:28:10.931
And, and they've been, uh, uh, honestly a, a great example for us as well.

01:28:11.002 --> 01:28:11.192
Yeah.

01:28:11.202 --> 01:28:11.362
So.

01:28:11.442 --> 01:28:13.912
Well, that's part of why having a faith community is important.

01:28:13.921 --> 01:28:16.212
Because if you're just off by yourself.

01:28:16.521 --> 01:28:20.851
Judging by your own standards, your standards get looser, uh, pretty quickly sometimes.

01:28:20.862 --> 01:28:21.502
For sure.

01:28:21.872 --> 01:28:22.792
No, and it's awesome.

01:28:22.801 --> 01:28:25.811
People say when you marry somebody, you marry their family.

01:28:26.591 --> 01:28:27.862
There's something to that.

01:28:27.862 --> 01:28:33.021
So having a very good Christian family to be married into is awesome.

01:28:33.231 --> 01:28:37.311
Well, and all three of my kids married into very spiritual families.

01:28:37.931 --> 01:28:40.971
So, I mean, it's, it's just like never even been a question.

01:28:41.091 --> 01:28:41.362
Yeah.

01:28:41.521 --> 01:28:41.801
Yeah.

01:28:42.351 --> 01:28:54.891
Um, politics, um, I thought we would start off with kind of some of your areas of expertise more, but, uh, because this, you know, the, uh, the climate change concern.

01:28:55.476 --> 01:29:03.707
We'll say, and all the things, you know, everything from carbon taxes to heavy subsidies on solar systems and things like that.

01:29:03.987 --> 01:29:04.226
Right.

01:29:04.306 --> 01:29:07.042
Like, they're, they're doing a lot to, uh, to figure this out.

01:29:07.042 --> 01:29:09.351
What, what's your, what's your take on all of it?

01:29:09.431 --> 01:29:15.481
Like what's it, maybe not what's the right thing to do, but what's, it's, it's, it's changed a lot over the last 20 years.

01:29:15.591 --> 01:29:16.362
Absolutely.

01:29:16.421 --> 01:29:16.681
Yeah.

01:29:16.731 --> 01:29:17.992
But it all hinges on electric.

01:29:18.622 --> 01:29:19.811
That's the cool thing, right?

01:29:20.002 --> 01:29:27.582
I mean, we're electrical contractor and a lot of this stuff, the end result is producing energy and most of it is electrical at some level.

01:29:27.841 --> 01:29:30.921
So, um, yeah, I think that.

01:29:32.256 --> 01:29:45.886
I'm disappointed sometimes that it has to become a right or a left issue and we'll try to produce content for, you know, all of the web stuff that, that Brittany's working on and that kind of thing.

01:29:45.886 --> 01:29:48.617
And sometimes it's perceived as, Oh, you're all right.

01:29:48.646 --> 01:29:49.837
Or you're all left.

01:29:50.487 --> 01:29:54.006
And I don't consider myself either one of those things.

01:29:54.006 --> 01:29:59.641
Um, I probably have tendencies based on owning, uh, independent business.

01:29:59.671 --> 01:30:03.551
Um, but I'd rather have a smaller government, less wars and less taxes, please.

01:30:03.572 --> 01:30:04.452
Kind of things, right?

01:30:04.742 --> 01:30:05.002
Yeah.

01:30:05.362 --> 01:30:18.971
So, I mean, I, you hate to claim that you're, you're central because that seems like lukewarm and I'm very passionate about what I believe, but I don't feel that issues have to be a politically left or right.

01:30:18.971 --> 01:30:19.141
Right.

01:30:19.542 --> 01:30:22.681
I mean, we know certain things and right now.

01:30:23.481 --> 01:30:27.021
There is some issues with the climate, right?

01:30:27.021 --> 01:30:27.750
Seems like it.

01:30:27.750 --> 01:30:28.282
And this is a fact.

01:30:28.971 --> 01:30:32.752
And it's funny, when I was a kid, jumping from first to third grade, Sure.

01:30:33.082 --> 01:30:36.591
I was taught about, we were getting ready to go into the next ice age.

01:30:36.631 --> 01:30:36.992
Right.

01:30:37.042 --> 01:30:37.372
Right?

01:30:37.891 --> 01:30:42.221
And then all of a sudden it's global warming, or whatever you want to call it currently.

01:30:43.037 --> 01:30:44.356
That the climate changes.

01:30:44.407 --> 01:30:44.796
Right.

01:30:44.856 --> 01:30:54.896
And maybe it's doing it in response, like, uh, I mean, it probably is doing it in response, but maybe the, this sounds pretty weird, especially coming because I am a Christian as well.

01:30:54.896 --> 01:30:57.527
But like, if we're going to feed.

01:30:58.046 --> 01:31:03.667
20 billion people someday, we're going to need a lot more carbon dioxide for all those plants, probably.

01:31:03.716 --> 01:31:05.487
Maybe the earth is just getting ready for us.

01:31:06.266 --> 01:31:07.837
We're kicking and fighting against it.

01:31:07.837 --> 01:31:08.667
I don't know.

01:31:08.667 --> 01:31:12.966
That's a little bit, uh, giving some human, uh, characteristics.

01:31:12.966 --> 01:31:15.037
Do you ever read that, that book, Jurassic Park?

01:31:15.622 --> 01:31:16.761
No, I have not.

01:31:16.761 --> 01:31:18.141
So it's a little different than the, the movie, right?

01:31:18.141 --> 01:31:18.582
Okay.

01:31:18.782 --> 01:31:20.351
But it gets into some of that stuff.

01:31:20.351 --> 01:31:22.601
And it's like, look, you're not going to destroy the planet.

01:31:22.742 --> 01:31:28.181
You may destroy some of the things that are living on the But other living things will be there too.

01:31:28.362 --> 01:31:28.952
Afterwards.

01:31:28.952 --> 01:31:29.242
Yeah.

01:31:29.261 --> 01:31:29.631
Fair.

01:31:29.681 --> 01:31:29.992
Yeah.

01:31:29.992 --> 01:31:38.082
So I think it's, it's But we do not want all of our coasts to flood because there's a lot of fucking expensive, excuse my language, expensive infrastructure on all the coasts.

01:31:38.082 --> 01:31:39.412
Like, that's where all the people live.

01:31:40.296 --> 01:31:41.646
If we can avoid that, that would be good.

01:31:42.027 --> 01:31:54.176
We had a, I mean, a kind of an interesting thing is, uh, growing up in Alaska, they, there was this little glacier that was outside of Anchorage and we would drive to it, like tourists would go and it was called portage.

01:31:54.716 --> 01:31:58.697
And so they developed this massive visitor center and it was amazing.

01:31:58.697 --> 01:32:00.936
And they would show this movie and it was great.

01:32:01.247 --> 01:32:02.386
And then the curtains would go up.

01:32:03.356 --> 01:32:05.417
you would see this massive glacier.

01:32:05.556 --> 01:32:07.926
And that was when I was a senior in high school.

01:32:07.926 --> 01:32:08.356
Right?

01:32:08.386 --> 01:32:09.896
Which wasn't that long ago.

01:32:10.046 --> 01:32:10.396
Right.

01:32:10.867 --> 01:32:11.327
Well, I mean.

01:32:11.506 --> 01:32:11.936
Right.

01:32:12.027 --> 01:32:13.056
In global terms.

01:32:13.096 --> 01:32:13.457
Right.

01:32:13.466 --> 01:32:13.846
In global terms.

01:32:15.077 --> 01:32:19.016
And then, like, just, like, just a, I took my kids there.

01:32:19.277 --> 01:32:28.546
And then the curtains come back and you see a lake and you have to kind of drive around the corner and look up and you can kind of see a little bit of what's left hanging on there.

01:32:28.556 --> 01:32:33.567
So there's no doubt that things are warmer, but we're also finding palm trees.

01:32:34.237 --> 01:32:35.037
In the ice.

01:32:35.577 --> 01:32:38.106
So we know it's been warmer in the past.

01:32:38.106 --> 01:32:39.981
It's probably going to be warmer in the future.

01:32:39.981 --> 01:32:41.997
And it's probably going to be colder in the future.

01:32:41.997 --> 01:32:46.987
So, all of these things just kind of go back to hey, let's be responsible.

01:32:46.987 --> 01:32:54.737
I think the worst thing we could do as humanity, personally, is like, die kicking and screaming trying to resist.

01:32:55.296 --> 01:33:01.447
What the world's going to do anyway, to some extent, you know, if we get too, too dumb about it, like we could really hurt ourselves.

01:33:01.457 --> 01:33:02.877
So let's be responsible, right?

01:33:02.886 --> 01:33:03.096
Yeah, responsible.

01:33:03.096 --> 01:33:04.037
Whatever responsibility.

01:33:04.037 --> 01:33:05.237
Yeah.

01:33:05.317 --> 01:33:09.546
So I think that's kind of where we're looking at politics in general.

01:33:09.747 --> 01:33:16.407
And I, I think right now there's a global, and I, I mean that, a global initiative to look at.

01:33:16.902 --> 01:33:26.622
What responsible means and it's different to different people, but obviously there's enough people interested that they can pass laws to say, Hey, we're going to fund.

01:33:27.447 --> 01:33:31.953
A massive amount of money into whatever the future might look like.

01:33:31.953 --> 01:33:37.806
Well, I think that's probably the biggest challenge, though, is when you talk about it as global.

01:33:38.117 --> 01:33:43.216
I've, I read a blog once a month and it's usually kind of edgy of some sort.

01:33:43.726 --> 01:33:48.426
Um, but I wrote one time that, that Europe has cut their hands off to stop themselves from sinning.

01:33:49.386 --> 01:33:49.537
Good point.

01:33:49.546 --> 01:33:50.947
But now you don't have any hands.

01:33:51.006 --> 01:33:51.377
Right.

01:33:51.447 --> 01:33:51.987
You know?

01:33:52.046 --> 01:33:52.716
And China's, you know.

01:33:53.146 --> 01:34:07.747
It's still building coal fired power plants, and so is India, and, you know, if, if all of industry, most of the cuts in greenhouse gases from the US and Europe has been by moving dirty shit over to China and India.

01:34:08.157 --> 01:34:08.676
Exactly.

01:34:08.747 --> 01:34:10.027
They haven't changed anything.

01:34:10.617 --> 01:34:10.936
Right.

01:34:10.936 --> 01:34:13.317
And the whole world is still just as yucky.

01:34:13.837 --> 01:34:16.657
We just get our, stuff from different places.

01:34:16.686 --> 01:34:26.056
What's insane to me from the agricultural side is to see, uh, a country like the Netherlands be so anti dairy, right?

01:34:26.527 --> 01:34:34.556
I mean, that just doesn't even want to anchor of part of the anchor, their economy, that and the, you know, hog farms and just their sophistication, right?

01:34:34.896 --> 01:34:42.846
Uh, with creating food, like they're the best in the world at creating food and the, their own government is trying to take their legs off from under them.

01:34:42.856 --> 01:34:47.487
They're kind of the world founder of dairy and they want to be dairy less.

01:34:48.037 --> 01:34:52.077
And I shouldn't say they, but I mean Right, the government assumes they don't need milk.

01:34:52.266 --> 01:34:52.884
Yeah, it's insane.

01:34:52.884 --> 01:34:54.527
But that's just them hurting themselves.

01:34:54.537 --> 01:34:54.997
Absolutely.

01:34:55.136 --> 01:34:55.247
Right?

01:34:55.247 --> 01:34:59.457
They've got all this dairy infrastructure, all this stuff, and now you're going to wreck us?

01:34:59.506 --> 01:35:00.867
And even carbon credits.

01:35:00.867 --> 01:35:04.027
When you look at that, I mean, it's, it's just made up.

01:35:04.747 --> 01:35:22.667
situation or system that saying, Hey, what we're going to do is take these, these companies that create things that create massive amounts of, you know, these carbon, if you're a tree planting company, you got so many credits to sell your, so you're going to just trade, right?

01:35:22.817 --> 01:35:23.296
You're covered.

01:35:23.556 --> 01:35:27.136
You say, Hey, I can keep creating this massive problem, right?

01:35:27.447 --> 01:35:28.907
But then I can go out and buy.

01:35:29.591 --> 01:35:36.591
Into industries that are trying to fix that problem and still keep doing exactly what I'm doing, but the end result is better.

01:35:36.851 --> 01:35:40.662
So, I mean, if you look at it, it's like, Hey, is it though?

01:35:40.752 --> 01:35:44.681
I mean, is doing terrible things offset by buying.

01:35:45.131 --> 01:35:48.042
Credits from companies that are planting trees.

01:35:48.252 --> 01:35:50.021
Well, it is it's better.

01:35:50.061 --> 01:36:24.096
Not I'm not saying it's better that it's all better Right, it's better than doing nothing so yeah, you know what we're trying to do is take these these companies that are being irresponsible and Dragging them back into being a little bit more responsible because they have so many credits and then they decrease over time Mm hmm, and then they can buy into technology spend money to develop Credits So my big fear is that, that, that carbon credit system stuff will just be used as like a big stick to beat people you don't like and favor people that you do.

01:36:24.377 --> 01:36:25.966
I, yeah, but I see it a little different.

01:36:25.966 --> 01:36:31.556
I think what it's doing is it's funding the next generation of innovation.

01:36:31.657 --> 01:36:33.646
And I think that that's what's kind of cool.

01:36:33.936 --> 01:36:38.346
So, so If it could be dedicated to that, I'm not sure that it can be though.

01:36:38.856 --> 01:36:44.912
I think the way the system's set up though, is that they get Oh, because you get innovation.

01:36:44.912 --> 01:36:48.104
You get credits for doing innovation almost.

01:36:48.104 --> 01:36:49.016
Oh, okay.

01:36:49.327 --> 01:36:51.367
So it's going to continue to decrease.

01:36:51.426 --> 01:36:57.636
And so they have to put part of their profits into industries that are being more responsible.

01:36:58.016 --> 01:36:59.197
Algae is one of those.

01:36:59.207 --> 01:37:13.277
So algae farming is something that I learned about in Israel and some of the things that they're doing, not only is creating algae, that's going to solve some problems in the future, but it also offsets by just its nature.

01:37:13.367 --> 01:37:15.087
You get carbon credits just by algae farming.

01:37:18.806 --> 01:37:19.127
Right.

01:37:19.136 --> 01:37:21.907
And now all of a sudden you've offset some stuff, plus you've gained.

01:37:21.917 --> 01:37:25.266
Because all these algaes are eating all this fresh carbon dioxide coming off.

01:37:25.266 --> 01:37:27.396
And then what do you do with the end result of those algaes?

01:37:27.801 --> 01:37:28.692
It just depends.

01:37:28.692 --> 01:37:34.152
I mean, a lot of them are coming into, I mean, there's stuff you can use for people's digestion systems.

01:37:34.152 --> 01:37:37.271
There's stuff that you can use for fertilizer replacement.

01:37:37.931 --> 01:37:42.131
There's stuff that you can use for, um, cosmetics.

01:37:42.221 --> 01:37:42.981
Oh, interesting.

01:37:43.051 --> 01:37:50.481
It's, uh, it's a fascinating industry that, that company that I work with out of Israel is really investing a lot of time.

01:37:50.502 --> 01:37:57.136
And it's starting to seem like, cause one of the big problems with Like stopping with oil and sorry we've cut you out of this.

01:37:57.167 --> 01:38:22.856
I see you nodding a lot, by the way, Brittany So I know you're pretty informed about a lot of things But the oil they just make so many things Right, you want plastic you want zippers you want fertilizer you want this you want that But I could see I could imagine a world in which algae photosynthesize algae can give you Complementary chemicals and stuff that could be potentially used in that, in a similar fashion.

01:38:22.917 --> 01:38:28.207
Plus, be able to offset some of the carbon emissions, which is kind of a natural thing.

01:38:28.207 --> 01:38:29.796
So it's symbionic, right?

01:38:29.796 --> 01:38:30.247
Right, right.

01:38:30.287 --> 01:38:31.516
And that's why we're excited.

01:38:31.516 --> 01:38:35.936
I mean, why would an electrician in Colorado be interested in this global initiative?

01:38:35.987 --> 01:38:36.426
Right.

01:38:36.891 --> 01:38:49.752
Number one, it's a responsible thing to be involved in, but we see profit because we can go in and put the electrical systems and the control systems in, we can have algae farms in Colorado, the healthiest, fattest allergies you've ever seen.

01:38:50.502 --> 01:39:00.971
And now we can offset all of these old traditional means to be just as, as good or more effective at what they do.

01:39:01.082 --> 01:39:02.471
And also.

01:39:02.787 --> 01:39:05.296
Start offsetting some of these carbon emissions.

01:39:05.317 --> 01:39:05.817
Right, right.

01:39:05.827 --> 01:39:06.827
So, it's a fantastic thing.

01:39:06.827 --> 01:39:10.527
That could even be a division of your company where you consult people on how to get that gravy.

01:39:10.546 --> 01:39:11.287
It will be.

01:39:12.356 --> 01:39:13.652
Yeah, it will be.

01:39:13.652 --> 01:39:14.537
Right.

01:39:14.537 --> 01:39:18.846
Brittany, let's, uh, let's turn the microphone to you on the politics topic.

01:39:19.146 --> 01:39:22.846
Um, anything to add, share?

01:39:22.846 --> 01:39:25.176
Any hot topics for you in a political realm?

01:39:25.516 --> 01:39:38.601
No, I think, uh, uh, uh, Being involved on all of our social stuff, I think just being cognizant of our message isn't trying to be one way or the other.

01:39:38.612 --> 01:39:41.591
It is truly coming down to where, where's the money at?

01:39:42.042 --> 01:39:48.327
You know, being an electrical contractor, We have to make money to be Yeah, these are the things we do.

01:39:48.327 --> 01:39:49.186
It's part of the Fisk way.

01:39:49.186 --> 01:39:53.516
Like, without the profitability, the sustainability, and responsibility don't mean anything.

01:39:53.516 --> 01:40:05.146
So, being able to make sure that we're doing a good job of not towing the line, because we don't want to tow the line, but not making it about the politics.

01:40:05.146 --> 01:40:07.346
Making it about what it truly is.

01:40:07.356 --> 01:40:09.067
Like, the future.

01:40:09.811 --> 01:40:10.612
It's sustainable, it's responsible.

01:40:10.612 --> 01:40:11.591
Yeah, exactly.

01:40:11.782 --> 01:40:12.131
So.

01:40:12.471 --> 01:40:15.322
Well, and why do you want to get up in the morning and be an electrician?

01:40:15.752 --> 01:40:17.341
That was kind of the Interesting.

01:40:17.981 --> 01:40:20.462
The, I, the, the funny So I bet you're a big fan of Mike Rowe.

01:40:21.542 --> 01:40:22.511
Absolutely.

01:40:22.551 --> 01:40:23.561
Like my hero.

01:40:23.561 --> 01:40:24.681
I actually got to meet him.

01:40:24.702 --> 01:40:25.122
Oh, you did?

01:40:25.372 --> 01:40:25.681
Yes.

01:40:25.702 --> 01:40:31.101
There was a conference up that one of my partners was a big part of putting on called Connect.

01:40:31.252 --> 01:40:31.481
Okay.

01:40:31.481 --> 01:40:32.511
It was up at Beaver Creek.

01:40:32.521 --> 01:40:32.752
Yeah.

01:40:33.002 --> 01:40:35.671
And they hired him to be the keynote speaker.

01:40:36.212 --> 01:40:38.572
And I got to have my picture with him and listen to him talk.

01:40:38.572 --> 01:40:41.402
And was it related to that connecting kids from schools?

01:40:41.402 --> 01:40:48.127
Well, it was connecting, mostly it was connecting agricultural, uh, Like development and what the future look like.

01:40:48.657 --> 01:40:56.256
Um, so those algae and vertical farming controlled fantastic speaker, but I just, like, I read everything he puts out.

01:40:56.917 --> 01:41:03.056
Cause he, I mean, he aligns with my goals and my values, but micro is like, he's my hero.

01:41:03.207 --> 01:41:07.266
So, uh, I don't know how much you've learned about the Robert Kennedy Jr.

01:41:07.777 --> 01:41:14.386
campaign for president, but, um, it's been reported by Mike that he asked him to be his vice president.

01:41:15.356 --> 01:41:15.976
nominee.

01:41:16.207 --> 01:41:16.726
Sign me up.

01:41:16.756 --> 01:41:18.396
You would have voted for him then for sure?

01:41:18.596 --> 01:41:19.006
Absolutely.

01:41:19.006 --> 01:41:20.466
You can even flip the two.

01:41:20.466 --> 01:41:20.516
I'm fine.

01:41:20.516 --> 01:41:22.976
I would have, I would have voted for Mike Rover president easier.

01:41:22.976 --> 01:41:23.646
I would too.

01:41:23.747 --> 01:41:24.327
Uh.

01:41:24.377 --> 01:41:31.027
Yeah, that guy is just amazing at, at, and, and it's not, it's not driven by one side or the other.

01:41:31.027 --> 01:41:31.966
It's common sense.

01:41:32.016 --> 01:41:32.457
Yeah, yeah.

01:41:32.457 --> 01:41:34.127
Well, and he's so full of humility too.

01:41:34.351 --> 01:41:36.021
Uh, he's like, this is just the way it is.

01:41:36.091 --> 01:41:40.502
I have a picture of me and him together and I show everybody because I think that guy is amazing.

01:41:41.011 --> 01:41:42.671
So politics vote for Mike Rowe.

01:41:43.042 --> 01:41:43.351
Absolutely.

01:41:43.591 --> 01:41:45.032
If he's on the ticket otherwise.

01:41:45.212 --> 01:41:45.511
Yeah.

01:41:45.511 --> 01:41:51.622
Uh, like not to get into the fresh wounds here, but last Thursday was an interesting debate.

01:41:51.891 --> 01:41:55.952
I turned it off so early because I was so embarrassed for both sides.

01:41:56.141 --> 01:41:56.202
Yeah.

01:41:56.582 --> 01:42:00.042
And when I talk to, I mean, I've got, I've got like.

01:42:00.926 --> 01:42:07.707
Acquaintances and good friends from multiple places, Sweden, from Netherlands, from Israel, right?

01:42:07.957 --> 01:42:09.877
Everybody's texting you, like, what's up with your president?

01:42:09.877 --> 01:42:10.987
Yeah, and that's what I get.

01:42:11.176 --> 01:42:19.577
And I'm like, I'm so embarrassed sometimes that people outside of the US think those are the best two people we have to offer.

01:42:19.877 --> 01:42:25.127
And, not to knock one side or the other, but I mean, it's just like, come on guys, we got better.

01:42:25.322 --> 01:42:31.962
I mean, we've got guys that are so progressive, and so smart, and so not one side or the other.

01:42:31.962 --> 01:42:32.721
Not political.

01:42:32.841 --> 01:42:33.292
Yeah.

01:42:33.292 --> 01:42:33.921
Just doing the right thing.

01:42:33.921 --> 01:42:38.742
That's what I think we should, that's what I think we need more of than anything is get politics out of politics.

01:42:38.942 --> 01:42:39.832
Absolutely.

01:42:39.841 --> 01:42:44.952
Because they just pick something and make it their side, and it doesn't have anything to do with.

01:42:45.261 --> 01:42:52.752
Well, if you're a junior Republican or Democratic congressman, and you've got views that aren't in the party line right now.

01:42:53.412 --> 01:42:58.402
Good luck getting any dollars or support or anything for every future election.

01:42:58.402 --> 01:43:01.511
Like everybody has to be in the mainstream of their party.

01:43:01.511 --> 01:43:02.721
Otherwise you're punished.

01:43:02.801 --> 01:43:06.032
And you know how they used to say, vote the party, not the person.

01:43:06.641 --> 01:43:08.332
That was a thing for a long time.

01:43:08.671 --> 01:43:14.601
But the problem is that you just, they just, the party puts up people like Hillary and Trump and Biden.

01:43:15.511 --> 01:43:15.742
Yeah.

01:43:15.742 --> 01:43:18.002
I just like vote the person now.

01:43:18.032 --> 01:43:18.292
Right.

01:43:18.362 --> 01:43:19.742
So are you going to vote for RFK then?

01:43:20.141 --> 01:43:21.872
Even though he doesn't have micro as his.

01:43:22.551 --> 01:43:23.091
Number two.

01:43:23.221 --> 01:43:34.431
Yeah, it depends on what he does is number two But yeah, I mean I am just like I feel like you're not a big part of that either you're kind of we're so far Trump's yucky Biden's.

01:43:34.782 --> 01:43:37.261
Yeah corpse Common sense.

01:43:37.261 --> 01:43:41.412
That's what I want to vote for Brittany I would you like to be on the spot on the microphone thing?

01:43:41.752 --> 01:43:47.652
Like I think it you hit the nail on the head in my opinion like it shouldn't be Left or right?

01:43:47.681 --> 01:43:49.202
Like what is the right thing?

01:43:49.231 --> 01:43:52.676
Yeah, you know, and it just You It's so many times forced one way or the other.

01:43:52.676 --> 01:43:54.157
So you are voting for RFK?

01:43:55.417 --> 01:43:56.046
Maybe.

01:43:56.136 --> 01:43:58.686
I, you know, it's hard to say.

01:43:59.497 --> 01:44:03.596
I, I've been voting third party for a long, like Ross Perot was my very first vote.

01:44:03.646 --> 01:44:04.317
There you go.

01:44:04.726 --> 01:44:07.146
And, uh, Kanye was my most recent.

01:44:07.157 --> 01:44:07.756
Nice.

01:44:08.327 --> 01:44:15.296
You know, The problem is they say you vote one and it takes one away or whatever, but it's like, come on, there's gotta be a better third option.

01:44:15.317 --> 01:44:18.087
I'm just not going to give somebody my vote if I don't, if I don't vote for it.

01:44:18.827 --> 01:44:21.917
Well, I guess I should, I, Kanye was a protest vote.

01:44:21.917 --> 01:44:29.067
Like I didn't really want Kanye to be my president, but it was because I didn't really want Trump or Biden to be my president either.

01:44:29.287 --> 01:44:29.676
I know.

01:44:29.676 --> 01:44:34.737
Um, anything else before we let you exit the political sphere?

01:44:34.737 --> 01:44:38.817
Is there anything in the political realm that is really relevant to Fisk?

01:44:40.266 --> 01:44:46.546
No, I think there's just, what's really cool is seeing how people's vision of the future.

01:44:47.016 --> 01:44:55.447
That stimulates revenue that funds initiative or invention or whatever.

01:44:55.487 --> 01:44:58.686
And then we can get behind that emerging technology, right?

01:44:59.106 --> 01:45:07.176
And try to figure out what fits us, which is responsible, sustainable and profitable and whatever it is.

01:45:07.176 --> 01:45:12.907
How much electricity will be behind the effort to get humans to Mars?

01:45:13.957 --> 01:45:14.306
Right?

01:45:14.396 --> 01:45:14.877
A lot.

01:45:14.877 --> 01:45:14.886
A lot.

01:45:14.886 --> 01:45:16.506
And like, even though you need a rocket ship.

01:45:16.907 --> 01:45:43.407
To get there, but all the stuff around that and actually colonizing Mars and you know Once you get up to Mars, everything's gonna be moving around with little electric motors Probably one of my first memories is Landing on the moon and my dad sat me on his lap and he made a muscle and he said Armstrong remember that Oh and that whole thing And helped us invent all kinds of stuff that we take for granted today.

01:45:43.417 --> 01:45:45.356
And so what's the future look like there?

01:45:46.056 --> 01:45:48.046
And I mean, that's super exciting.

01:45:48.127 --> 01:45:48.546
Totally.

01:45:48.596 --> 01:45:48.926
Yeah.

01:45:49.127 --> 01:46:00.636
Like if, if, if somebody suddenly found an asteroid that was going to come get us in 50 years, like the amount of things that we would do as a species to make that not come get us, right.

01:46:00.636 --> 01:46:02.396
Would be extraordinary.

01:46:02.466 --> 01:46:03.226
Oh yeah.

01:46:03.327 --> 01:46:04.556
Um, absolutely.

01:46:04.726 --> 01:46:06.136
So yeah, it's, it's true.

01:46:06.136 --> 01:46:07.707
Well, it's through challenge that comes.

01:46:08.002 --> 01:46:08.921
Growth, generally.

01:46:08.962 --> 01:46:09.372
Absolutely.

01:46:09.372 --> 01:46:10.061
Speaking, so.

01:46:10.122 --> 01:46:10.402
Yep.

01:46:10.671 --> 01:46:10.721
For sure.

01:46:10.942 --> 01:46:26.051
Um, maybe when you, uh, take your one year sabbatical, uh, in the Amazon and leave Brittany running Fisk in three years, uh, then she'll get so much smarter in that time, and you'll come back with a piranha chewed off arm or something like that.

01:46:26.051 --> 01:46:26.391
Yeah.

01:46:26.391 --> 01:46:27.362
Yeah, let's not.

01:46:27.532 --> 01:46:27.601
Right.

01:46:29.011 --> 01:46:31.561
So, our close is the loco experience.

01:46:33.002 --> 01:46:33.872
So, what does that mean?

01:46:33.881 --> 01:46:36.181
Does that mean local Colorado or like crazy?

01:46:36.212 --> 01:46:37.332
Yeah, like crazy.

01:46:37.402 --> 01:46:38.546
Yeah, I've got some crazy stuff.

01:46:38.546 --> 01:46:41.452
Yeah, like loco, like crazy, like a crazy experience.

01:46:41.452 --> 01:46:43.561
Could be a day, a moment, a year in the life.

01:46:43.612 --> 01:46:44.802
You want one from each of us?

01:46:44.802 --> 01:46:46.101
Yeah, one from each of you.

01:46:46.101 --> 01:46:47.801
If you got a really good one, I'll let you do two.

01:46:48.242 --> 01:46:49.051
Brittany, you got anything?

01:46:49.051 --> 01:46:51.731
You've been kind of a toe in the line kind of girl, so.

01:46:51.891 --> 01:46:52.292
Yeah.

01:46:52.292 --> 01:46:53.332
And your dad's right here.

01:46:53.442 --> 01:46:54.051
Right.

01:46:54.862 --> 01:46:56.783
Well, probably she brings me back, right?

01:46:56.783 --> 01:46:58.521
And your husband's gonna listen to this.

01:46:58.521 --> 01:46:58.872
Yeah.

01:46:59.162 --> 01:47:04.212
No, probably my craziest thing that's happened to me, um, I was in school.

01:47:04.212 --> 01:47:07.112
I was going to a private Christian school in Arkansas.

01:47:07.242 --> 01:47:07.551
Okay.

01:47:07.792 --> 01:47:08.372
Um.

01:47:08.372 --> 01:47:09.492
What was it called?

01:47:09.492 --> 01:47:09.912
Harding.

01:47:09.931 --> 01:47:10.362
Harding?

01:47:10.412 --> 01:47:10.631
Yup.

01:47:10.631 --> 01:47:10.942
Okay.

01:47:11.051 --> 01:47:13.771
Private Christian, er, uh, Church of Christ school.

01:47:13.851 --> 01:47:14.192
Okay.

01:47:14.462 --> 01:47:15.622
Very, very strict.

01:47:15.652 --> 01:47:20.362
Um, actually I think it was rated like the top ten most boring schools you could go to.

01:47:20.362 --> 01:47:22.141
And you're like 20 by now or something, right?

01:47:22.152 --> 01:47:22.452
It wasn't your first stop.

01:47:22.452 --> 01:47:23.692
Yup, 20, 21.

01:47:23.731 --> 01:47:25.021
I got there when I was 20, so.

01:47:25.332 --> 01:47:27.752
So she has six years of education.

01:47:28.002 --> 01:47:32.171
Uh, yeah, I should be like a lawyer, a doctor, but I just have an art degree.

01:47:32.171 --> 01:47:34.796
You We'll check it out, it's gonna sound fine.

01:47:35.976 --> 01:47:40.447
No, okay, so, I was working in a restaurant while I was going to school there.

01:47:40.447 --> 01:47:44.766
I walked in, and you have to check in at the hostess stand whenever you walk in.

01:47:45.157 --> 01:47:49.817
I go up there, figure out where my section is, and there's a policeman sitting there.

01:47:49.817 --> 01:47:51.636
And he's like, uh, Brittany Fisk?

01:47:52.087 --> 01:47:52.296
Hmm.

01:47:53.266 --> 01:47:53.947
Yeah?

01:47:54.556 --> 01:47:57.096
He's like, I'm gonna need you to come down to the station with me.

01:47:57.157 --> 01:47:57.447
Oh.

01:47:57.627 --> 01:47:58.527
I'm like, okay.

01:47:58.827 --> 01:48:28.702
Can you tell me what for and he's like, nope, we'll talk about it when we get there He's like, but I'm gonna need you to ride with me Can you give me your phone and luckily he didn't make me sit in the back of the cop car like I got a ride in The front so I can look like a convicted felon And keep it we're just checking in for work, yeah, so all your co workers like And I have no idea they're not telling me anything and And again, like, I was straight and narrow, like at a party, like we couldn't drink.

01:48:28.702 --> 01:48:30.362
We had to sign stuff that we wouldn't drink.

01:48:30.561 --> 01:48:31.072
Oh, really?

01:48:31.202 --> 01:48:33.131
Like, if you've got a minor in possession, you'd be kicked out of school.

01:48:33.131 --> 01:48:37.141
Oh no, the school bought liquor rights for an hour radius around the school.

01:48:37.152 --> 01:48:40.981
So you had to drive over an hour to go get alcohol if you wanted to.

01:48:40.992 --> 01:48:43.931
Like it, it was, it was that strict, but.

01:48:43.952 --> 01:48:44.332
Interesting.

01:48:44.332 --> 01:48:47.131
It sounds like a place where people send their bad kids too.

01:48:47.442 --> 01:48:49.341
You know, I don't know what.

01:48:49.421 --> 01:48:50.322
She volunteered.

01:48:50.851 --> 01:48:51.612
I didn't know what I was getting into.

01:48:51.612 --> 01:48:53.141
No, it.

01:48:54.091 --> 01:48:55.341
It was an awesome experience.

01:48:55.341 --> 01:48:56.511
I loved, I loved going there.

01:48:56.511 --> 01:48:59.612
But anyway, so we drive over, get to the police station.

01:49:00.051 --> 01:49:05.122
Um, he takes me up into this room and shuts the door, starts recording.

01:49:05.471 --> 01:49:08.162
And he's like, do you have any idea why you're here?

01:49:08.242 --> 01:49:09.881
I'm like, I have no freaking idea.

01:49:10.532 --> 01:49:11.912
And I am just scared to death.

01:49:11.921 --> 01:49:16.952
Like I, I've gotten a speeding ticket and I think that's the extent of my interaction with the cop.

01:49:17.671 --> 01:49:19.162
And, uh, he's like.

01:49:19.676 --> 01:49:20.766
You, you have no idea.

01:49:20.796 --> 01:49:24.896
So I'm sitting here like, well, I haven't cleaned up the dog poop in my backyard for a couple of weeks.

01:49:24.896 --> 01:49:29.546
Like maybe when they recalled on that, would I get, would I get brought down for that?

01:49:29.617 --> 01:49:31.987
And he's like, no, he's just kind of laughing at me.

01:49:31.987 --> 01:49:33.216
He's like, that's definitely not it.

01:49:33.226 --> 01:49:37.356
I'm like, I'm learning how to drive a motorcycle in my neighborhood.

01:49:37.356 --> 01:49:48.027
Like, I don't have my motorcycle license, but like, once you pull me over, he's like, No, he's like, okay, so just, just to cover all my bases, we're going to do a lie detector test.

01:49:48.497 --> 01:49:50.796
And now that I'm older, I'm like, I should have lawyered up.

01:49:50.796 --> 01:49:52.186
Like, what was I doing?

01:49:52.186 --> 01:49:53.827
But I'm like, okay, whatever you say.

01:49:54.417 --> 01:49:57.506
And so he starts asking like basic questions.

01:49:57.506 --> 01:50:00.087
Like I'm gonna ask basic yes or no to kind of get our baseline.

01:50:00.087 --> 01:50:01.636
He's like, what color is the wall?

01:50:02.386 --> 01:50:03.726
Like, I'm a fricking art major.

01:50:03.726 --> 01:50:03.987
Like.

01:50:04.407 --> 01:50:05.686
Are you wanting me to say white?

01:50:05.726 --> 01:50:07.077
Because it's kind of a taupe.

01:50:07.627 --> 01:50:22.811
It's kind of got like a gray cool undertone But then there's warm lighting because of course coming from an electrical family The warm lighting is making it kind of have a more bright Beige undertone and warm like And he just is cracking up this whole time and i'm sitting here stressed out.

01:50:22.822 --> 01:50:35.462
This is the scariest i've ever been And finally he was like, um, you've been identified as being involved in like a theft ring Have you done anything and i'm like no No, like thank god.

01:50:35.471 --> 01:50:36.221
That's what it is.

01:50:36.231 --> 01:50:44.947
But he ended up ending the Was this like some jelly, like, basketball teammate that wanted your starting spot or something?

01:50:45.056 --> 01:50:51.346
I have no idea what it was, but then he cracked the door when he left, called his partner, and he's like, There's no way this girl did anything.

01:50:51.556 --> 01:50:52.896
Like, she is not a part of it.

01:50:53.636 --> 01:50:56.896
So then he took me back to work, gave me my phone, and That was it.

01:50:57.506 --> 01:51:01.466
I never heard if they found who they were looking for, but Yeah.

01:51:01.587 --> 01:51:02.287
That's crazy.

01:51:03.096 --> 01:51:05.587
Almost certainly somebody had to set you up.

01:51:05.867 --> 01:51:11.067
Well, somebody identified my, they got my school ID picture, and they're like, she's the one.

01:51:11.506 --> 01:51:11.827
Hmm.

01:51:12.136 --> 01:51:13.016
So, I don't know.

01:51:13.016 --> 01:51:16.707
I think they did that to a couple people because they took another girl after they dropped me off.

01:51:17.981 --> 01:51:18.402
Crazy.

01:51:18.942 --> 01:51:21.021
Well, I'm glad you didn't do it.

01:51:21.481 --> 01:51:22.152
Me too.

01:51:22.271 --> 01:51:23.572
I think you'd be a terrible liar.

01:51:23.942 --> 01:51:25.862
I, yeah, I was stressed out.

01:51:25.872 --> 01:51:26.652
What color is the wall?

01:51:26.671 --> 01:51:27.551
I don't, I don't know.

01:51:29.131 --> 01:51:29.412
Pulp.

01:51:31.811 --> 01:51:32.181
Ivory.

01:51:33.902 --> 01:51:34.631
Alright, Kevin.

01:51:35.431 --> 01:51:36.332
So I got a lot.

01:51:36.532 --> 01:51:37.521
Yeah, I don't doubt it.

01:51:37.601 --> 01:51:38.612
I grew up in Alaska.

01:51:38.631 --> 01:51:41.921
I want to hear one, uh, I want to hear two.

01:51:42.091 --> 01:51:47.511
I want to hear the one that got you into the most trouble that the constable or whatever told you not to come back to town.

01:51:47.532 --> 01:51:48.971
I don't know if I can tell you that one.

01:51:49.002 --> 01:51:49.391
No?

01:51:49.402 --> 01:51:49.801
Okay.

01:51:49.841 --> 01:51:50.569
I'll tell you a couple.

01:51:50.569 --> 01:51:51.463
Not with your daughter right here.

01:51:51.463 --> 01:51:51.613
Okay.

01:51:51.613 --> 01:51:52.252
I'll hear two.

01:51:52.332 --> 01:51:58.181
So, one was, uh, I was in high school and we had a vocational school in Anchorage.

01:51:58.181 --> 01:52:02.551
So we lived about 45 minutes, 30 45 minutes, uh, north of Anchorage.

01:52:02.851 --> 01:52:02.881
Yep.

01:52:03.101 --> 01:52:04.551
Got more and more as time grew.

01:52:05.021 --> 01:52:06.962
And so they called it the Career Center.

01:52:06.962 --> 01:52:06.981
Okay.

01:52:07.051 --> 01:52:18.372
So we signed up a bunch of my friends and it's like, Hey, half a day we would get to go to Anchorage and we would drive ourselves and we would learn some kind of a vocational trade.

01:52:18.372 --> 01:52:21.511
This is like in lieu of taking pre calc or something like that at high school.

01:52:21.511 --> 01:52:25.752
So you'd have half a day of regular school and half a day of this trade school.

01:52:25.782 --> 01:52:27.641
My dad was an industrial arts teacher.

01:52:27.716 --> 01:52:30.886
Yeah, we did the same thing, actually.

01:52:30.886 --> 01:52:36.817
I came from a town about 20 minutes, 25 minutes from Jamestown, North Dakota.

01:52:37.046 --> 01:52:37.907
So what'd they teach ya?

01:52:38.306 --> 01:52:38.747
Like, stuff in that.

01:52:38.766 --> 01:52:41.676
Yeah, auto mechanics, auto repair, electric.

01:52:42.101 --> 01:52:43.731
Something, a couple of other things.

01:52:43.752 --> 01:52:45.391
Yeah, it was great.

01:52:45.431 --> 01:52:50.462
Well, yeah, I mean, I probably should have taken pre calc instead because I got into engineering.

01:52:50.462 --> 01:52:51.242
Right, right.

01:52:51.471 --> 01:52:51.942
But whatever.

01:52:51.952 --> 01:52:53.662
For me, it was like, Hey, this is great.

01:52:53.692 --> 01:52:53.942
Yeah.

01:52:53.971 --> 01:52:58.510
I learned how hard spark plugs shock when they're attached to a wire.

01:52:58.510 --> 01:53:00.681
We get to drive ourselves, which is great.

01:53:00.681 --> 01:53:03.412
Oh, we had to take a bus, but we stopped at the 7 Eleven and got.

01:53:04.846 --> 01:53:06.577
Yeah, it was just get there on your own.

01:53:06.806 --> 01:53:13.587
So, you know, we'd get three or four or five of us together, pile in a car, listen to whatever music we wanted.

01:53:13.737 --> 01:53:18.516
Stop by the bakery, pick up donuts and whatever we wanted to drink and head on.

01:53:18.546 --> 01:53:19.396
Yeah, it was great.

01:53:19.447 --> 01:53:21.907
You know, 45 minutes and then we're in school.

01:53:22.426 --> 01:53:26.837
I did wildland fire management because that sounded cool.

01:53:26.837 --> 01:53:28.037
Pretty important thing up there too.

01:53:28.077 --> 01:53:28.827
Absolutely.

01:53:29.891 --> 01:53:31.641
So anyways, we did that.

01:53:31.881 --> 01:53:36.801
Um, and there was all kinds of kind of crazy stuff going on in Alaska at that time.

01:53:36.801 --> 01:53:40.981
So we had the pipeline, sure, which brought a lot of money, kind of thing.

01:53:40.981 --> 01:53:41.362
Yeah.

01:53:41.372 --> 01:53:47.662
And then money brought all kinds of problems, drugs and hookers and all that kind of mafia and probably moved on, whatever.

01:53:47.671 --> 01:53:47.931
Right.

01:53:47.931 --> 01:53:48.386
Right.

01:53:48.667 --> 01:53:53.077
And so there was some kind of crazy stuff and there was a lot of weird stuff happening.

01:53:53.087 --> 01:53:58.096
So there was a lot of, um, like murders and stuff happening.

01:53:58.096 --> 01:54:08.216
And so just north of us, there was a little village called the Clutna and they found this, this dead body and they called her a Clutna Annie.

01:54:09.171 --> 01:54:14.192
And so, uh, I mean, when I was going through school, it was like, all right, you know, I don't know, but be careful.

01:54:14.212 --> 01:54:18.271
Cause there's one, there's a lot of, like a lot of other people.

01:54:18.282 --> 01:54:19.782
She was just like the first, right?

01:54:20.551 --> 01:54:27.502
So, um, I graduate from high school and then obviously come down here, start working for my uncle.

01:54:27.502 --> 01:54:32.556
And I've got a lot of friends up there that are coming back and they're like, crazy.

01:54:32.556 --> 01:54:36.806
This guy that got arrested for serial killer, right?

01:54:36.846 --> 01:54:37.247
Oh.

01:54:37.627 --> 01:54:39.346
And so I'm like, who is this guy?

01:54:39.346 --> 01:54:40.277
I don't understand.

01:54:40.306 --> 01:54:47.087
Well, we used to stop by this bakery on the way to our, our class up there.

01:54:47.087 --> 01:54:47.367
Right.

01:54:47.987 --> 01:54:52.537
And, uh, and we'd pick up whatever donuts and coffee and do whatever and come up.

01:54:52.596 --> 01:55:01.542
Well, uh, This guy gets convicted, like the fall after I graduate, of being a serial killer.

01:55:01.631 --> 01:55:01.971
Oh, shit.

01:55:02.061 --> 01:55:06.532
And so, they make this whole movie and stuff about this guy.

01:55:06.542 --> 01:55:09.471
And it starred Nicolas Cage and John Cusack.

01:55:09.511 --> 01:55:09.962
Okay.

01:55:09.962 --> 01:55:11.051
And it's called Frozen Ground.

01:55:11.051 --> 01:55:11.402
Okay.

01:55:11.591 --> 01:55:11.952
Right?

01:55:12.332 --> 01:55:14.681
And they name this guy the Butcher Baker.

01:55:14.902 --> 01:55:15.572
Okay.

01:55:15.742 --> 01:55:20.507
And it was just really weird because we got to know this, this owner of this baker.

01:55:20.507 --> 01:55:22.032
So, this is the guy that you stop there.

01:55:22.862 --> 01:55:23.492
Absolutely.

01:55:23.551 --> 01:55:25.752
And it's just, uh, and he did it.

01:55:25.761 --> 01:55:26.721
It was convicted.

01:55:26.792 --> 01:55:27.091
Yeah.

01:55:27.141 --> 01:55:28.122
He died in prison.

01:55:28.162 --> 01:55:33.771
Like, do you wonder sometimes if the special filling was not exactly berries and cream?

01:55:33.771 --> 01:55:36.221
Sounds like it was pretty much in the up and up.

01:55:36.221 --> 01:55:37.601
His name was Robert Hanson.

01:55:37.601 --> 01:55:37.952
Okay.

01:55:37.952 --> 01:55:41.101
So this, the bakery was separate from the serial killer operation.

01:55:41.101 --> 01:55:41.322
Right.

01:55:41.322 --> 01:55:46.002
So Robert Hanson was the owner of the bakery where we used to hang out.

01:55:46.082 --> 01:55:46.591
Right.

01:55:46.662 --> 01:55:50.341
And we had grabbed stuff from him and I mean, we conversed with him.

01:55:50.917 --> 01:55:53.957
multiple times, uh, like a week, right?

01:55:54.226 --> 01:55:54.556
Right.

01:55:54.577 --> 01:56:00.006
Not just casually seemed like a great guy turns into be a silly serial killer.

01:56:00.077 --> 01:56:01.226
And, uh, yeah.

01:56:01.256 --> 01:56:08.324
So Robert Hanson, then they made this movie frozen ground and I'm pretty sure I'd be thinking about what those doughnuts had in them a lot.

01:56:08.324 --> 01:56:10.617
I mean, we've all thought about that.

01:56:10.617 --> 01:56:14.220
So, yeah, that's probably the, one of the craziest, crazy story.

01:56:14.220 --> 01:56:16.840
I probably have four, but that wasn't related.

01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:20.442
You get an ask not to come back to town though.

01:56:20.912 --> 01:56:22.792
I wanted a small one about that.

01:56:23.582 --> 01:56:25.712
You don't want your wife to hear, or your daughter, is that true?

01:56:25.721 --> 01:56:35.971
Well I think the cleaned up version is, my sister had a party, and somebody stole my birth certificate from that party.

01:56:36.481 --> 01:56:47.681
And then ended up using my identity to pawn a bunch of stuff that was stolen from a DEA, or the DA of our area.

01:56:48.591 --> 01:56:53.202
And the DA, like I guess prosecuted all that stuff.

01:56:53.231 --> 01:56:53.442
Right?

01:56:53.442 --> 01:56:53.832
Right.

01:56:53.952 --> 01:56:56.952
Um, but I got a call, but I find out at this pawn shop and like I Yeah.

01:56:56.952 --> 01:57:01.362
Sold a bunch of stuff that literally you turned in down in Colorado the whole time.

01:57:01.362 --> 01:57:07.662
I have payroll records, everything to, to, to, I guess, so this is the sanitized version.

01:57:07.662 --> 01:57:10.181
So what really went down much the same thing.

01:57:10.846 --> 01:57:11.136
Okay.

01:57:11.476 --> 01:57:16.362
But I, I, I literally had to like, call up there and say, Hey, look, I, I, it wasn't me.

01:57:16.362 --> 01:57:17.261
I was in Colorado.

01:57:17.261 --> 01:57:17.862
It wasn't me.

01:57:17.862 --> 01:57:19.212
I don't know who this guy is.

01:57:19.817 --> 01:57:20.596
Um, yeah.

01:57:20.766 --> 01:57:21.186
Fair enough.

01:57:21.237 --> 01:57:21.686
Kind of crazy.

01:57:21.686 --> 01:57:23.136
Well, we'll put you on the spot there anymore.

01:57:23.136 --> 01:57:23.936
Right.

01:57:23.936 --> 01:57:24.317
Okay.

01:57:24.377 --> 01:57:30.457
Well, Brittany, um, why don't you tell our listeners, uh, where to learn more about Fisk Electric.

01:57:30.457 --> 01:57:32.987
I hear you guys have a fancy website since you came on board.

01:57:33.167 --> 01:57:33.617
We do.

01:57:33.686 --> 01:57:34.317
Yeah.

01:57:34.367 --> 01:57:36.466
Come, uh, come check us out, www.

01:57:36.516 --> 01:57:36.657
fiskelectric.

01:57:42.237 --> 01:57:42.567
com.

01:57:42.896 --> 01:57:43.646
FiskElectric.

01:57:43.646 --> 01:57:43.926
com.

01:57:44.207 --> 01:57:44.226
Yeah.

01:57:44.556 --> 01:57:46.837
Uh, we got Facebook.

01:57:46.837 --> 01:57:47.145
Socials and stuff too.

01:57:47.145 --> 01:57:47.221
Yeah.

01:57:47.372 --> 01:57:52.962
Yeah, check out Kevin's LinkedIn post, or his LinkedIn profile, uh, he has a newsletter.

01:57:52.962 --> 01:57:55.212
Do you do his posts on LinkedIn when he posts?

01:57:55.212 --> 01:57:55.902
I do nothing.

01:57:55.921 --> 01:58:01.832
Like, every article I get credit for, I do like, I worked very hard to make it seem like you're doing all of them.

01:58:02.311 --> 01:58:02.921
No, we got it.

01:58:02.931 --> 01:58:09.221
We have a good team that comes up with good articles and he does a good job of kind of giving us direction and Yeah.

01:58:09.511 --> 01:58:11.431
You know, this is, this is what I'm passionate about.

01:58:11.431 --> 01:58:14.282
This is what we're headed towards and being able to kind of combine it.

01:58:14.591 --> 01:58:15.851
Give props to Hannah.

01:58:16.141 --> 01:58:16.521
Yeah.

01:58:16.551 --> 01:58:17.971
Hannah, Hannah Barthel.

01:58:17.971 --> 01:58:20.372
She is, she's awesome.

01:58:20.372 --> 01:58:20.582
Yeah.

01:58:20.582 --> 01:58:21.481
She helps me out.

01:58:21.481 --> 01:58:24.341
I, like I said, my degree is visual communication design.

01:58:24.721 --> 01:58:27.532
She's like the writing and the creative behind that.

01:58:27.532 --> 01:58:28.712
Call her the wordsmith.

01:58:28.792 --> 01:58:29.021
Yeah.

01:58:29.021 --> 01:58:30.391
She is our wordsmith.

01:58:30.391 --> 01:58:31.912
She does an awesome job helping me out.

01:58:31.952 --> 01:58:33.992
I describe myself as a grammar Nazi sometimes.

01:58:35.027 --> 01:58:40.185
I will not send any of my stuff here, at least unless Hannah's checked it first.

01:58:40.185 --> 01:58:42.907
Well, um, you know, do you guys have any questions for me?

01:58:43.176 --> 01:58:45.396
I guess we're wrapping this thing up just in moments here.

01:58:45.396 --> 01:58:52.396
We're just excited to be a part of this and I think that through our investigation, um, it's really interesting to see what you do.

01:58:52.466 --> 01:58:56.065
Yeah, it's, uh, it's, what is it?

01:58:56.065 --> 01:58:57.769
We want to be a part of that.

01:58:57.769 --> 01:58:58.407
Responsible and sustainable.

01:58:58.407 --> 01:58:59.259
It is not profitable.

01:58:59.259 --> 01:58:59.470
Right.

01:58:59.470 --> 01:58:59.896
It's okay.

01:58:59.896 --> 01:59:01.317
The Local Experience Podcast isn't.

01:59:01.337 --> 01:59:02.556
Two out of three is better than nothing.

01:59:02.556 --> 01:59:02.766
That's right.

01:59:04.306 --> 01:59:07.686
I like to say at Loco Think Tank, we look for the win, win, win, win.

01:59:07.806 --> 01:59:08.197
Right.

01:59:08.317 --> 01:59:10.287
But we'll settle for the win, win, win if necessary.

01:59:10.317 --> 01:59:10.846
Perfect.

01:59:11.396 --> 01:59:12.426
You guys would fit right in.

01:59:12.867 --> 01:59:13.817
I appreciate you being here.

01:59:13.947 --> 01:59:14.226
Yeah.

01:59:14.777 --> 01:59:15.087
Thanks for having us.

01:59:15.106 --> 01:59:15.796
Thanks, Brittany.

01:59:15.926 --> 01:59:16.207
Okay.

01:59:16.237 --> 01:59:16.636
Godspeed.