EXPERIENCE 166 | Change Your Perspective, Change Your Business with Duane and Chad Stroh, Co-Founders and and President/VP of Healthy Harvest expeller-pressed non-GMO cooking oils.

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Dwayne and Chad Stro are the father and son that lead the team at Healthy Harvest in birthed Colorado, which also includes Dwayne's wife and Chad's sister and one redheaded stepchild in a key operations role.

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They were initially involved as investor partners of the business.

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But as partners departed and their market awareness grew, they pivoted the company to specialize in production and wholesale distribution of non GMO cooking oils across Colorado and entering new markets across the American West.

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They also offer nationwide direct to consumer oil sales through their website and on Amazon.

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In a previous chapter, the family operated a conventional grain farm in feedlot near Holyoke, Colorado, where Dwayne was also the wrestling coach for many years.

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When Dwayne met a man with a persistent infection caused by exposure to antibiotic resistant bacteria on a hog farm, he started investigating the drug and chemical-laden conventional farming industry.

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And when his brother died at an early age from lymphoma.

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He remembered how that brother was the one responsible for spraying Roundup around the farmyard and mixing it in the sprayer tanks.

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And long story short, the family decided to sell out of their farm and feedlot and change their business as a result of this change in perspective.

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What I love about Dwayne is that he's a lot like my dad.

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The secret to success in farming or in business is math.

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And what I love about Chad is that he is focused on the impact of marketing, technology, and relationships to build long term business value.

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Together they're a formidable pair, and I'm excited to see their business continue to grow and help more and more non GMO farmers share their healthy harvest with the world.

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So please enjoy, as I did, my conversation with Duane and Chad Stroh.

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Welcome back to the local experience podcast.

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My guests today are Dwayne and Chad Stroh.

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They are the CEO and vice president and together co founders of Healthy Harvest and Healthy Harvest is a natural oils company based in Bertha that does wholesale and retail.

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So, uh, who wants to start talking to me about Healthy Harvest?

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Chad?

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Sure.

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I'll go for it.

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I'll go first.

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He's a father and son as well, so.

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Yep.

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Um, well, we're an all natural cooking oil company that supplies all sorts of fryer oils and saute oils and different products, mostly restaurant supply.

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Okay.

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We do a small amount of retail, just Amazon, things like that.

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Sure, yeah.

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So, primarily restaurants and probably food manufacturers too, people that are using your oils to make stuff?

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Yep.

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Yeah, it's really the fastest growing part of our business.

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Definitely, yeah.

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Why, uh, why do people pick you as their supplier of choice?

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In that space look at him.

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He's a good looking guy.

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Oh, yeah, so it's just the natural charm.

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No, why do they pick healthy harvest?

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Yeah, well, we not only provide a healthier cleaner product We're all non gmo verified and we do expeller pressed oils as well, which means that it's not processed with chemicals most commercial oils are So that's a big part of it.

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So not only is the you know, the health attributes and, and sort of the marketing side, but it, it has a much better flavor and it, uh, does better in like the fryer and sauteing with it.

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You really can taste a difference.

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So that's probably the biggest reason is the quality of the product.

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Yeah.

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And I want to dig into that, uh, the difference between the types of oils later.

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I think, uh, it's something that I was kind of grossed out by as I've learned, like, like canola oil and traditional vegetable oils are really, There's a lot of chemicals touching that stuff before it touches your plate.

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Mm hmm.

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Yep.

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And, uh, how long has Healthy Harvest been around?

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We just hit 10 years in December, so 10 and a half years.

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Well, congratulations on 10 years.

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Thank you.

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And, Dwayne, uh, this is not your first rodeo, is that what I remember?

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No, it's not even my twelfth rodeo.

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Oh, is that right?

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Yeah, but we've had a lot, me and my wife have had a lot of businesses over the years.

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And Healthy Harvest is a true family business, right?

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Like you're, both your wife and your daughter are also?

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And we got one red headed stepchild.

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That's the young man I met there.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, he's uh, he's your only non family employee, is that true?

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Yep.

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He brings a lot of flavor to the Flavor to the sauce.

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Yeah, he does.

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We tell him we had to adopt him so we can treat him as shitty as everybody else.

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So was this a business that, um, Like grew out of a different business that you had before Dwayne or like, did you plan this for a season together and then launched it?

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Or how was, how did you, what's the inception story?

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Well, it's kind of lengthy.

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Do you mind?

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No, no.

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I mean, try to give me the five minute version, not the two hour version.

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Cause we won't have any time left for anything else.

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But so we used to have a farm and feedlot and a grain company and because of the grain company.

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I was approached to invest in this company.

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Oh, okay.

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And so, um, I, at the time, didn't really believe in non GMO and organic and all that stuff.

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We thought it was all just a bunch of booze.

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Yeah, thank you.

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We speak the same language.

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You guys are from Eastern Colorado kind of realm and I'm from North Dakota, so.

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Yes, sir.

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And so, um, they did talk me into going on a due diligence trip.

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And, um, I was also a wrestling coach and I met a guy who, uh, got an infection from a hog on his conventional hog farm.

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And, um, long story short, um, none of the antibiotics would, uh, would help him because the, that hog was on so many antibiotics that, uh, his body was immune to it.

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Yeah.

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Any infection that the hog had was pretty much.

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Not susceptible to any other stuff.

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Yes, sir.

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And because of my wrestling coach career I I Knew about MRSA and overuse of antibiotics, but that never occurred to me that was coming in our food So I found out that um, you know hogs chickens and turkeys are the worst are fed antibiotics a lot Just because it helps cut the cost of gain or cost of production.

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Sure.

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And so I went home and I told my wife maybe we've been wrong and and So we studied it for a while.

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Then I went to the University of Nebraska Columbus and asked them to feed me 60 head of conventional hogs and 60 head of, of, you know, all natural, no hormones.

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Okay.

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No GMOs.

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All that.

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Mm hmm.

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And, uh, they said we will, but we've already done it.

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And, uh, they brought me the data out, and I read it, and it was extremely humbling.

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Actually nauseating, as you said.

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Mm hmm.

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And, uh, so Like what?

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Like, the, the conventional hogs?

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grew faster or tasted better or what was?

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No, it was exactly the opposite.

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We was, um, there, you know, I've been around animals my whole life.

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And so I know what a good looking carcass looks like in the conventional hogs carcass.

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It looked like a sick hog and we found out things like the intestines are so compromised in the livestock that eat GMO grains that they won't hold sausage anymore.

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They have to import intestines to put sausage in and all this stuff was just like getting fire hosed.

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Very humbling.

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Um, I asked them why they didn't punish, uh, publish it, and they said that, uh, they couldn't because they didn't own it, and the people that owned it did not want to publish it.

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Right.

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Yes.

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Which included us signing an NDA to look at it.

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Yeah.

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Are you breaking something now, or?

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No.

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No, it's public.

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No.

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It's not public information.

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I'm not going to tell you whose it was.

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Right.

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Fair.

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Fair enough.

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But the, uh, So you kind of had a mind shift.

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You're like, Oh, we've been growing all this GMO soybeans and feeding it to our critters and stuff and thinking nothing of it.

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Yeah.

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And we're talking about 30 some years of, of growing these kinds of crops and stuff.

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It was not an easy thing to accept.

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I was, um, I don't know what the feeling was sick, humiliated.

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Felt guilty.

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It was, uh, extremely weird.

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You know, you start thinking about things that happened when we were, when cattle and stuff on the farm and you're like, oh, now, you know, we thought, well, cows are dumb.

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They just eat the GMO stocks instead of the other stuff.

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It never occurred to us it was making them sick.

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We, we had no idea.

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They would eat, you'd put them out on stocks and if you had a circle of, like, non GMO stocks next to the GMO ones, they They would eat the non GMO one to the dirt before they touch the other ones.

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Is that right?

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Yeah.

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Well, that's pretty good indicator Well, yeah, we just we just thought it was because the Stock was more palatable.

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I mean a non gmo corn stock is white bright and doesn't deteriorate much And so I don't know what we thought that Just never occurred to us, I guess.

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So, you were involved in the farm operation, Chad, as well?

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You were intimately involved already at that time?

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Yeah, I grew up on the farm, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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What to do about it next or how do you go about?

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So we came back and, and, and me and Melissa talked about it and decided, well, you know, maybe this is a good thing.

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And so my, my job was going to be to source non GMO soybeans and have them crushed and sell the meal to this log, large hog operation in, in Midwest.

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And, um, then, then also part of my duty was to offload the crude oil on the open market.

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And so we, you know, we dumped a bunch of money in it and decided to go ahead and do it.

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But the other four partners never showed with money or help.

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And so, uh, we ended up in a business we knew nothing about.

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And it was been a, yeah.

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And that was healthy harvest.

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Yes, sir.

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Oh, okay.

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So you came in as an investor and then everybody else kind of bailed.

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Well, they wanted me to manage it because of my grain trading.

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Right, right.

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Right.

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So I didn't really realize that was part of the model.

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So you gotta go source the, the grains.

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Oh, not anymore.

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On our one year anniversary, that whole entire deal fell through and we completely started over from scratch.

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Okay.

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And in the hole.

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Right, right.

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And, and, in what you ultimately became, which was kind of a sourcing and blending.

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Yep.

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Distribution business?

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I guess.

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So, through the due diligency we did with the, the beginning stages, we did meet several of the processors around the country who do Expeller Press and, you know, uh, no chemicals and there's not very many of those.

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So we basically thought, you know, there's a huge potential for this type of product in Colorado.

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If we bring it in, maybe we could market it to sort of the restaurant and commercial industry.

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Gotcha.

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So kind of got to create a brand so that people know about this expeller pressed oil and that option.

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Yeah, that's what Chad was thinking.

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Cause he's more of a conservative thinker.

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I was thinking all these guys up here love this kind of stuff.

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We just got to give out samples.

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We'll sell more than we can get wrong.

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And we started learning about marketing and stuff.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We used to say the scouts get the arrows in, uh, in the banking world, you know, when you're out there ahead of the market, Hey, we got this great new thing.

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Well, you can spend all your money saying stuff, but nobody believes you until you get the right messaging.

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Yep.

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So what's that look like for you guys?

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As far as like finding your customers, how do they find you?

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Do you find them?

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Is it some mix of both now that it's been a while?

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It's a mix of both.

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Yeah.

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I mean, at the very beginning, I would say the first Four or five years it took to build, um, enough of a brand that people actually know it even exists.

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Right.

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Um, and even then, people who have a more, you know, healthy mindset, you still have to be cost effective.

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Right.

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Right.

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Especially in restaurants.

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They have bills to pay just like everybody else.

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So it's, it's got to perform.

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And your main, the base oil is sunflower oil.

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Is that right?

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Yeah.

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Like as opposed to vegetable or canola, but that's like a.

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Well, vegetable includes so many different oils.

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That's, yeah.

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I think canola and sunflower could be tossed into that depending on whose rules you look at.

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Oh, absolutely.

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It's, it's funny when you go to a store and I'll say, what kind of oil do you use?

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Vegetable?

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Like, well, I'm glad it's not, you know, petroleum, mineral oil, which one of the 20, could that be?

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Yeah.

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So we do sunflower, we do avocado, extra virgin olive oil and canola.

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Okay.

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Oh, so you can make canola the good way.

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Yeah.

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Just got to expel or press it rather than, so I guess now's a good time.

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Talk to me about the.

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Traditional oil process.

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So the, you know, or the, uh, maybe the current model, the most, most, uh, industry standards would be to use a solvent like you, you soak the seed or the bean in a solvent, uh, this is after it's already been crushed for meal.

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Yes.

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Before and after, right.

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They only do it after a crush?

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They crush it and then they wash it like in a big spinning tumbler and they blow the solvent through it and it washes all the oil away.

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Okay.

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And this, solvents are harsh.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And that's like, and then they take the solvent back out somehow?

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I guess the oil flows to the top?

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Or something cause it's lighter or how does that work?

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You have to refine the crude oil, so what they basically say is in refinement it's removed, but There's a lot of people who disagree and It also changes the oil when you use a solvent it essentially makes it more extractable which What we've heard is that it shrinks the oil molecules are smaller.

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It changes the way it functions But you can if you're in the oil industry and you have tasted a lot of different products you can taste the difference and be like, that's chemically extracted.

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You can tell.

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We've had chefs tell us that they put oil in a hot pan and once in a while it'll flash.

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I don't know if they're telling the truth or not.

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I've never seen it.

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So, you know, how do you like that?

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Could be some impurity or something.

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The solvent is a byproduct of gas, so it's flammable, right?

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So you're right.

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They do separate it by weight and then Chad's right.

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Also, they get to remain filter it through or whatever and refine it.

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Yeah, I don't know what that looks like.

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That process.

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So for your customer there, like a traditional one would be just like, uh, solvent extracted canola oil would be a popular one for a restaurant fryer, because it's got a very high smoke point, right, and pretty durable oil.

00:16:09.859 --> 00:16:16.139
And then they would use, they could use your mix instead, which would be, is it twice as expensive?

00:16:16.798 --> 00:16:17.168
Oh, no.

00:16:17.318 --> 00:16:17.989
Not that much.

00:16:18.568 --> 00:16:23.524
Um, I'm just curious what the premium is to have that better, better oil.

00:16:23.653 --> 00:16:31.134
The absolute, like, cheapest, cheapest product you could possibly get, which is like, most restaurants still wouldn't even buy that.

00:16:31.134 --> 00:16:35.293
This is, I don't even know how, who would buy most of it.

00:16:35.293 --> 00:16:39.264
But the very, very cheapest I would say is, what, 50 60 percent difference?

00:16:40.099 --> 00:16:41.028
Yeah, probably.

00:16:41.229 --> 00:16:41.808
Okay.

00:16:42.168 --> 00:16:51.009
So the, the big difference our oil does really well in the fryer is, you know, we talked about hexane extruded, but ours is ex, expeller pressed.

00:16:51.009 --> 00:16:51.318
Yeah.

00:16:51.749 --> 00:17:01.229
And so, uh, that process is much like Chad was talking about, how harsh hexane is on the oil.

00:17:01.438 --> 00:17:02.269
It's the opposite.

00:17:02.269 --> 00:17:03.089
It's really good.

00:17:03.198 --> 00:17:13.523
Well, I would imagine also that the, um, The molecules being smaller would reduce their durability, like number of times it could be heated up and cooled back down and stuff.

00:17:13.874 --> 00:17:15.193
I don't know if that's true or not.

00:17:15.193 --> 00:17:16.604
We know it doesn't last as long.

00:17:16.604 --> 00:17:17.394
That's for sure.

00:17:17.433 --> 00:17:18.074
Yours doesn't.

00:17:18.233 --> 00:17:19.854
There's no, there's no.

00:17:19.894 --> 00:17:20.584
Yeah.

00:17:20.993 --> 00:17:30.574
And so we also know that our oil cooks faster for whatever reason and it does not absorb as much.

00:17:31.344 --> 00:17:33.213
Oh, as much of the other flavors and whatever?

00:17:33.304 --> 00:17:38.273
Well, it has, not flavors, it has, uh, Oh, it sheds the food easier.

00:17:38.284 --> 00:17:44.134
Yeah, the expeller press doesn't soak into the food and stuff like the, like the solvent extract does.

00:17:44.153 --> 00:17:47.243
Well, that would make it even more, more compelling, right?

00:17:47.473 --> 00:17:48.884
Well, you would, Depends.

00:17:48.884 --> 00:17:50.017
We're trying.

00:17:50.017 --> 00:17:51.148
It depends.

00:17:51.148 --> 00:17:58.558
And that, like, most restaurants, um, other than, like, you know, a fast food chain, aren't buying that cheap of oil.

00:17:58.858 --> 00:18:04.088
They're, they're looking for something that's a little, like, a better, more of a durable fryer product.

00:18:04.209 --> 00:18:04.479
Okay.

00:18:04.528 --> 00:18:07.189
And we compete pretty much head to head with those in price.

00:18:07.278 --> 00:18:08.239
Really comparable.

00:18:08.398 --> 00:18:08.709
Yeah.

00:18:09.138 --> 00:18:13.028
And you're selling it in, like, five gallon jugs and stuff, mostly?

00:18:13.219 --> 00:18:13.338
Yeah.

00:18:13.338 --> 00:18:13.969
Is that your distribution?

00:18:13.969 --> 00:18:14.038
4.

00:18:14.038 --> 00:18:16.048
6 gallon, 35 pounders.

00:18:16.058 --> 00:18:16.088
Okay.

00:18:16.138 --> 00:18:16.509
All right.

00:18:16.578 --> 00:18:16.689
Thank you.

00:18:16.689 --> 00:18:16.929
All right.

00:18:17.278 --> 00:18:22.648
Don't ask me why that's the restaurant standard, but that's what most people sell their oil in, so.

00:18:22.798 --> 00:18:23.338
Interesting.

00:18:23.429 --> 00:18:27.618
We were in the oil business for a whole year before we learned out what a jib of oil is.

00:18:27.699 --> 00:18:28.409
What's a jib?

00:18:28.719 --> 00:18:29.709
Jug in a box.

00:18:29.878 --> 00:18:30.598
Oh, yeah.

00:18:30.828 --> 00:18:32.969
Kind of like a wine box, same kind of thing.

00:18:33.098 --> 00:18:37.108
That's what we use now as a bib, which is the same thing as a wine box, a bag in a box.

00:18:37.179 --> 00:18:37.909
A bag in a box.

00:18:37.909 --> 00:18:38.429
Oh, yeah.

00:18:38.608 --> 00:18:39.558
Well, that makes more sense.

00:18:39.618 --> 00:18:42.358
A lot less plastics to use and stuff like that.

00:18:42.578 --> 00:18:43.888
Significantly less, yes.

00:18:44.618 --> 00:18:47.078
So, um, so tell me about those first years.

00:18:47.078 --> 00:18:54.868
You said you were significantly in the hole and, uh, did you have other business interests still going at this time?

00:18:55.269 --> 00:18:56.999
The farm and the feedlot and whatever?

00:18:57.009 --> 00:19:01.499
Did you get out of that because you felt too guilty about killing people with your products?

00:19:05.598 --> 00:19:09.068
First of all, I do want to say I'm not here to throw any farmers under the bus.

00:19:09.763 --> 00:19:17.173
But the, uh, we, we had already sold before any of this happened because we, I lost two brothers out there and we just weren't having fun anymore.

00:19:17.903 --> 00:19:27.233
And so, uh, we did have other businesses and, um, that's the only thing kept us afloat and other, other cashflow.

00:19:27.884 --> 00:19:31.943
But yeah, it was, uh, We traded a lot of real estate.

00:19:32.824 --> 00:19:33.703
That, that helped us.

00:19:33.713 --> 00:19:34.683
He did, I didn't.

00:19:34.784 --> 00:19:34.923
Yeah.

00:19:35.814 --> 00:19:41.054
I was, I went to college and was, when we got into this, I was about 21, 22.

00:19:41.094 --> 00:19:41.453
Okay.

00:19:41.463 --> 00:19:47.564
So, I was living above my associate's garage in a half built studio apartment for a while.

00:19:47.594 --> 00:19:48.084
Fair enough.

00:19:48.124 --> 00:19:48.253
Yeah.

00:19:48.534 --> 00:19:49.673
And what did you go to school for?

00:19:50.344 --> 00:19:52.144
Uh, business administration.

00:19:52.253 --> 00:19:52.604
Useful.

00:19:52.604 --> 00:19:53.233
Mm hmm.

00:19:53.763 --> 00:19:56.483
Um, so what's the, what's the.

00:19:56.913 --> 00:19:58.733
plan for Healthy Harvest?

00:19:58.733 --> 00:20:02.213
Like, what if things go right over the next three to five years?

00:20:02.804 --> 00:20:05.253
Is it just kind of expand your regional presence?

00:20:05.433 --> 00:20:07.003
Maybe expand that retail?

00:20:07.013 --> 00:20:10.114
I mean, we didn't really talk much about the retail yet, but what's that look like?

00:20:10.114 --> 00:20:14.203
Is that like a buy it on Amazon kind of thing or from your website or something?

00:20:15.153 --> 00:20:19.354
Yeah, so currently we only do Amazon slash website sales.

00:20:19.423 --> 00:20:19.804
Yeah.

00:20:21.094 --> 00:20:24.023
It's still quite a bit of business that we do on there.

00:20:24.574 --> 00:20:29.663
I would say that we want to expand that a little and more products and different sizing.

00:20:30.963 --> 00:20:37.003
And I think in the future for the wholesale side of the company, definitely expanding into other regions.

00:20:37.003 --> 00:20:42.013
We're in most of the major broadliner distributors in Colorado.

00:20:42.334 --> 00:20:42.993
Broadliner?

00:20:43.114 --> 00:20:45.173
Broadline distributor, like, um, you're, you're big.

00:20:45.213 --> 00:20:47.483
Oh, like a US Foods or whatever.

00:20:48.114 --> 00:20:48.723
Shamrock.

00:20:48.804 --> 00:20:49.064
Yep.

00:20:50.153 --> 00:20:51.104
You just named two of them.

00:20:51.713 --> 00:20:52.023
Yeah.

00:20:52.423 --> 00:20:53.554
Two of our bigger ones.

00:20:53.963 --> 00:20:59.213
Um, going into multiple states with them is our, would be the next big step.

00:20:59.213 --> 00:21:04.374
Getting them to carry you farther is the goal, which, how do you do that?

00:21:05.884 --> 00:21:06.144
Yeah.

00:21:06.144 --> 00:21:06.653
Money.

00:21:06.653 --> 00:21:08.273
You know, you pay into the marketing.

00:21:08.473 --> 00:21:15.104
So each, each state kind of has a little different marketing program that it's called like a local marketing program, essentially.

00:21:15.523 --> 00:21:16.364
And you basically.

00:21:16.824 --> 00:21:22.413
Uh, pay your dues into that and, and make it available and figure out the logistics of supplying the area.

00:21:24.253 --> 00:21:28.693
But then that's all you got to do at the distributor, but then you got to build a marketing plan.

00:21:28.854 --> 00:21:29.253
Yeah.

00:21:29.294 --> 00:21:31.084
Then you got to go still find customers.

00:21:31.084 --> 00:21:31.344
Right.

00:21:31.344 --> 00:21:33.493
So if you like, you're trying to get into Arizona.

00:21:33.624 --> 00:21:33.903
Yeah.

00:21:34.453 --> 00:21:35.364
And he would say that.

00:21:35.413 --> 00:21:47.243
You got to go, you got to go spend your own marketing dollars kind of doing some Arizona geographic targeted marketing or, or just even cold calling on restaurants, seeing if they'll give you a chance, that kind of thing.

00:21:47.443 --> 00:21:51.979
Well, that and the big part about it will be, Talking with, uh, reps from those companies.

00:21:51.979 --> 00:21:53.679
Oh, the sales reps from those.

00:21:53.689 --> 00:21:54.659
They have the relationships.

00:21:54.669 --> 00:21:58.469
Just, just making them aware that you're going to be available in the area.

00:22:00.098 --> 00:22:01.479
So much more leverage.

00:22:01.479 --> 00:22:03.269
Yeah, winning them over, so to speak.

00:22:03.419 --> 00:22:03.709
Yeah.

00:22:03.788 --> 00:22:06.219
If the reps like you and your product, then it's going to help.

00:22:06.229 --> 00:22:09.709
Well, and making them confident that you can actually deliver the goods, right?

00:22:09.709 --> 00:22:09.709
Right.

00:22:09.709 --> 00:22:14.509
Like, you have to be able to deliver the new volume if you break open to a new market kind of thing.

00:22:14.588 --> 00:22:14.778
Yep.

00:22:15.088 --> 00:22:15.439
Yeah.

00:22:16.489 --> 00:22:19.348
You were asking earlier why people should buy from us.

00:22:20.659 --> 00:22:24.409
So, 10 years, and we have never missed a delivery.

00:22:24.753 --> 00:22:27.703
And we've never had a customer that had to order.

00:22:27.763 --> 00:22:28.844
We just take care of them.

00:22:28.913 --> 00:22:30.213
We just know what they need.

00:22:30.713 --> 00:22:34.163
We go in, they tell us what they need, how much they need to have every week.

00:22:34.314 --> 00:22:41.743
Like for instance, Kurt, you might say, you know what, every week I want to make sure I have ten full bibs of oil.

00:22:42.193 --> 00:22:44.884
We go in, if you have four left, we leave you six.

00:22:45.459 --> 00:22:51.919
If you're out, we'll say, Hey, Kurt, you're out and he'll say, I know we had a busy week and it's going to be huge this week and we make it 12 this week.

00:22:51.919 --> 00:22:52.528
We do it.

00:22:52.548 --> 00:22:57.878
We bill, do a on site electronic invoice right there on the spot.

00:22:57.888 --> 00:22:58.269
Wow.

00:22:58.298 --> 00:23:04.338
And you're just, your, your delivery truck basically is already equipped with fulfilling whatever amount needs to be done.

00:23:04.348 --> 00:23:04.378
Yep.

00:23:04.378 --> 00:23:05.209
We carry extra.

00:23:05.499 --> 00:23:17.703
The only issue we've had with that, is we're very dedicated to our distributors, and, um, when they switch to them, it takes them a while to remember to order oil.

00:23:17.784 --> 00:23:18.173
Oh, right.

00:23:18.324 --> 00:23:20.203
Yeah, so that's for our direct customer.

00:23:20.223 --> 00:23:21.294
Gotcha, gotcha.

00:23:21.304 --> 00:23:24.163
Which we probably only have 25 or so, maybe.

00:23:24.163 --> 00:23:26.044
You self distribute to some of the local places.

00:23:26.544 --> 00:23:28.213
Within like a 50 mile radius.

00:23:29.848 --> 00:23:33.838
Did you have to get that to a certain size before the distributors would talk to you kind of thing?

00:23:33.838 --> 00:23:35.278
Or was it a dual prong approach?

00:23:35.898 --> 00:23:49.233
Basically, how we got our very first distributor was, A local sort of chain that was a higher end chain basically called one of our distribution companies and said, I want this product.

00:23:49.273 --> 00:23:51.334
Either you deliver it or I'm going direct.

00:23:52.054 --> 00:23:53.624
And that's, that's how we got in.

00:23:53.683 --> 00:23:55.433
That's how we got in every single one.

00:23:55.673 --> 00:23:58.523
You basically got to make the distributor mad enough that they want to take your stuff.

00:23:59.233 --> 00:23:59.614
Right.

00:24:00.074 --> 00:24:02.374
Well, they have to, the alternative has to be worse.

00:24:02.423 --> 00:24:06.294
Yeah, the customer can request a product he's got so much more power than us.

00:24:06.354 --> 00:24:06.743
Right.

00:24:06.983 --> 00:24:09.923
Unless you really know the right people, which we didn't.

00:24:09.983 --> 00:24:11.604
So, that was our only approach.

00:24:11.973 --> 00:24:25.334
So that's part of your potential approach in say Arizona is trying to find some customers, especially if there's like maybe chains or things that have people up here in Colorado that you already like and they can use some influence down there kind of thing.

00:24:26.034 --> 00:24:32.568
Once you get in a distributor and start building a relationship with them, they're good people, you know.

00:24:32.739 --> 00:24:33.009
Yeah.

00:24:33.058 --> 00:24:34.368
And they want to work with you.

00:24:34.368 --> 00:24:39.588
And so once you get in there and establish your reputation and a little bit of rapport.

00:24:39.848 --> 00:24:40.068
Yeah.

00:24:40.169 --> 00:24:45.138
Then you can go to a new area and you're not out, you know, walking the streets.

00:24:45.138 --> 00:24:50.689
You're actually communicating with the, with the reps and, and so it's, it's a whole different atmosphere.

00:24:50.689 --> 00:24:51.118
Right, right.

00:24:51.118 --> 00:24:51.358
That makes sense.

00:24:51.999 --> 00:24:52.189
Yeah.

00:24:52.189 --> 00:24:52.519
Yeah.

00:24:52.949 --> 00:24:53.808
Hard to have it.

00:24:54.009 --> 00:24:58.979
You could never afford the kind of sales force that you'd have to send out to get to all the places you'd like to be delivering to.

00:24:59.088 --> 00:24:59.509
Right.

00:24:59.509 --> 00:24:59.798
Right.

00:24:59.798 --> 00:25:00.088
Right.

00:25:00.088 --> 00:25:02.378
Um, did you, um.

00:25:03.634 --> 00:25:13.003
Or do you plan to sell to like, I was thinking about like bottled olive or these kind of olive oil stores or boutique food stores and stuff like that.

00:25:13.034 --> 00:25:15.814
Do you want to deliver to that kind of a marketplace too?

00:25:16.523 --> 00:25:19.953
We have already before, there's just not a lot of them.

00:25:20.054 --> 00:25:20.433
Right.

00:25:20.963 --> 00:25:22.923
There's only a few of them around, um.

00:25:22.993 --> 00:25:24.523
And a lot of them are kind of distributing their own products.

00:25:24.743 --> 00:25:28.763
Product like they've built a franchise or something around a product source.

00:25:28.814 --> 00:25:30.253
Now it would still be what they do.

00:25:30.253 --> 00:25:33.044
We, we would sell them our own oil, but they would probably brand it.

00:25:33.193 --> 00:25:33.624
Right.

00:25:33.663 --> 00:25:34.034
Right.

00:25:34.034 --> 00:25:35.183
Right.

00:25:35.183 --> 00:25:35.463
Right.

00:25:35.463 --> 00:25:35.864
Right.

00:25:36.523 --> 00:25:39.354
Um, but that isn't part of the core strategy.

00:25:39.834 --> 00:25:44.374
Um, it would be if there was about a hundred times more of them.

00:25:44.374 --> 00:25:46.763
Yeah, we're, we're totally open to it.

00:25:46.773 --> 00:25:48.584
We just never have had the opportunity.

00:25:49.233 --> 00:25:51.773
Like all of the store down here is wonderful.

00:25:51.814 --> 00:25:59.009
We have, um, One olive brand and they got, you know, 50 or whatever it is.

00:25:59.009 --> 00:25:59.568
I don't know.

00:25:59.588 --> 00:26:01.959
They got all kinds of different kinds of olive oil.

00:26:02.288 --> 00:26:03.989
So we don't really have much to offer them.

00:26:03.989 --> 00:26:07.749
Yeah, you might have 1 or 2 percent of their shelf space or something like that.

00:26:07.818 --> 00:26:13.298
Yeah, so we, it's like, you know, our motto is, how do we help these people?

00:26:13.298 --> 00:26:15.898
I don't know how we're going to help them, those people.

00:26:15.898 --> 00:26:16.999
Right, that makes sense.

00:26:16.999 --> 00:26:17.273
Yeah.

00:26:17.273 --> 00:26:18.898
Where do they grow sunflowers these days?

00:26:20.618 --> 00:26:26.019
Well, um, a lot of sunflowers are grown in Southeast Colorado, which is where all our oil comes from.

00:26:26.068 --> 00:26:26.689
Oh, is that right?

00:26:26.778 --> 00:26:27.199
Okay.

00:26:27.269 --> 00:26:31.169
Down in the Arkansas Valley or even in the plains more probably.

00:26:31.229 --> 00:26:32.828
North of there, Burlington and stuff.

00:26:33.138 --> 00:26:34.189
Yep, and south.

00:26:34.239 --> 00:26:35.028
South of there still.

00:26:35.608 --> 00:26:41.828
Yeah, but that whole area, the whole eastern border of Colorado has sunflowers, the further south you go, the more there is.

00:26:41.858 --> 00:26:42.269
Okay.

00:26:42.419 --> 00:26:42.778
Alright.

00:26:43.128 --> 00:26:45.878
We used to grow sunflowers on my dad's farm up in North Dakota.

00:26:45.969 --> 00:26:51.278
I was just going to say, Dakotas have a lot of sunflowers and Canada is starting to grow a lot of sunflowers.

00:26:51.588 --> 00:26:51.979
Yeah.

00:26:52.048 --> 00:26:52.298
Yeah.

00:26:52.338 --> 00:27:02.949
We, around home, and I think the reason is because corn and, and soybeans, uh, GMO soybeans and corn have, uh, pushed sunflowers out of the marketplace.

00:27:04.013 --> 00:27:14.114
for better, better potential yield, uh, gross revenue wise farming economics coming and you know, I, I used to raise a lot of edible beans.

00:27:14.233 --> 00:27:14.554
Okay.

00:27:14.854 --> 00:27:21.054
And when we first started raising them, um, California was the big producer of edible beans, kidneys, especially.

00:27:21.054 --> 00:27:21.574
And yeah.

00:27:21.923 --> 00:27:28.304
And, um, our land cost was cheaper, and everything was cheaper, so we could actually raise them much more.

00:27:28.314 --> 00:27:29.124
I'll compete then.

00:27:29.124 --> 00:27:34.644
So, yeah, so pretty soon they dried up, and then you rascals from the Dakotas started growing up.

00:27:34.663 --> 00:27:38.574
Right, I remember when the Pintos and the Dry Edibles started being really popular up there.

00:27:38.624 --> 00:27:38.854
Yep.

00:27:39.104 --> 00:27:41.463
Because they had even cheaper land still, and more rain.

00:27:41.693 --> 00:27:43.784
And now Canada's stealing them from you.

00:27:43.884 --> 00:27:44.544
Oh, is that right?

00:27:44.594 --> 00:27:44.894
Yeah.

00:27:44.973 --> 00:27:45.763
Oh, that's interesting.

00:27:45.794 --> 00:27:51.913
Plus, they have a lot of the same economics, but the, you know, of course, the exchange on a dollar helps.

00:27:51.963 --> 00:27:52.594
Yeah, yeah.

00:27:52.683 --> 00:28:09.818
Well, and, um, Um, I went to a guy talking about onions, you know, there's still a lot of onions raised like in Weld County and stuff, but you know, the markets are flooded with Mexican onions because they can be subsidized by smuggling drugs in the onions.

00:28:09.818 --> 00:28:17.098
So they don't really care what they sell the, yeah, they don't really care what they sell the avocados and the onions for as long as they're a good place to hide your drugs.

00:28:17.098 --> 00:28:19.618
I've never heard an avocado, that was awesome.

00:28:20.878 --> 00:28:23.368
I've heard it before, I mean, rumors, but.

00:28:23.648 --> 00:28:24.138
Yeah.

00:28:24.709 --> 00:28:29.628
Well, hard to, hard to smuggle drugs in, in olive oil or sunflower oil, probably.

00:28:30.469 --> 00:28:30.868
True.

00:28:31.209 --> 00:28:31.318
Yeah.

00:28:31.548 --> 00:28:34.648
You'd think somebody would notice when they dumped it out, but yeah.

00:28:34.648 --> 00:28:38.858
If you had cocaine in your olive oil, oh, you'd probably have a hell of a market.

00:28:39.078 --> 00:28:39.328
I don't know.

00:28:39.338 --> 00:28:39.598
Yeah.

00:28:39.608 --> 00:28:40.358
Very addictive.

00:28:40.449 --> 00:28:46.693
Well, you could maybe do the, uh, if it was not, if it was not legal, the, like the hemp oil stuff, the THC, right?

00:28:47.743 --> 00:28:50.374
35 pound jug of that would last you a long time.

00:28:50.594 --> 00:28:51.163
Yeah.

00:28:51.213 --> 00:28:59.104
We, we actually looked at all that when it first came in and I don't know what's wrong with me, but when everybody's flooding somewhere, I kind of go the other way.

00:28:59.114 --> 00:28:59.574
Yeah.

00:28:59.683 --> 00:29:10.814
Well, and interestingly enough, We don't know very many hemp producers, but all the ones that we know are now not yeah No, that market didn't really come together for anybody around here.

00:29:10.814 --> 00:29:25.763
It's a really difficult crop to grow well And the processing of it is really challenging and the markets are still developing for the fibers and from the following crop Yeah, because from the farmers perspective like the roots of that is like tree roots, right?

00:29:25.773 --> 00:29:27.903
It's extremely difficult the next year.

00:29:27.913 --> 00:29:30.594
Oh interesting to like rip it up and try and plant a new crop.

00:29:30.594 --> 00:29:34.263
It probably taps way down and steals all the nutrients too, based on how it grows.

00:29:34.273 --> 00:29:38.903
And they're big around, and they actually, if you didn't know what it was, you would think it was a branch.

00:29:39.084 --> 00:29:39.574
Oh, yeah.

00:29:39.663 --> 00:29:40.683
No, they're so hard.

00:29:41.044 --> 00:29:44.773
I might have grown some, some homegrown in my backyard a couple times.

00:29:44.834 --> 00:29:48.683
And so I know that you whack somebody with that main stem and they'll know it.

00:29:48.693 --> 00:29:49.064
Yeah.

00:29:49.074 --> 00:29:49.253
For sure.

00:29:49.953 --> 00:30:03.614
Well, and the hemp, the industrial hemp ones too, they're much more, Durable plant they use them for fibers and right making all sorts of different textiles out of and those roots are Insane, it's just like a tree.

00:30:03.703 --> 00:30:09.638
Well, and you know For what it's worth, sunflowers are, like, they were kind of the OG in that department.

00:30:09.689 --> 00:30:18.269
You know, that's one of the reasons they grow them southeast and stuff there, because they can get to that moisture that's deeper than what a wheat farm can get to or a potato.

00:30:18.378 --> 00:30:21.378
A sunflower plant does have an amazing root system.

00:30:21.439 --> 00:30:21.919
You're right.

00:30:22.199 --> 00:30:22.729
I agree.

00:30:22.878 --> 00:30:24.348
They don't require too much water.

00:30:24.348 --> 00:30:32.939
We would try to plant sunflowers regularly to try to break up some of the clay soils and stuff, because the sunflower root would go down through some of those clay pans and stuff.

00:30:32.939 --> 00:30:33.288
Hmm.

00:30:33.878 --> 00:30:34.388
Yep.

00:30:35.378 --> 00:30:35.628
So.

00:30:35.999 --> 00:30:37.628
So, what do you guys do there?

00:30:37.669 --> 00:30:40.269
Like, give me a, give me an overview of the.

00:30:40.638 --> 00:30:45.358
the team and, and the kind of delineation of duties with this family business.

00:30:45.409 --> 00:30:47.098
Chad, you want to give me an overview?

00:30:47.288 --> 00:30:52.219
So there's three of us that mainly work in like the warehouse operation.

00:30:52.298 --> 00:30:52.618
Okay.

00:30:52.818 --> 00:30:57.558
Uh, Conrad is operations manager or vice president of operations.

00:30:57.578 --> 00:30:58.249
Excuse me.

00:30:58.318 --> 00:31:00.479
Oh, he just recently had a time with you now.

00:31:00.538 --> 00:31:01.108
That's right.

00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:10.048
And, um, he handles most of all the production, um, ordering, inventory, stuff that is.

00:31:10.874 --> 00:31:12.294
Honestly, not that easy.

00:31:12.733 --> 00:31:13.673
He does a lot of that.

00:31:13.723 --> 00:31:18.304
Um, he also does a lot of deliveries and scheduling deliveries.

00:31:18.453 --> 00:31:21.463
Um, then Amanda is my sister.

00:31:21.794 --> 00:31:26.334
She also works in the bottling warehouse and she also is the office manager.

00:31:26.354 --> 00:31:27.733
She does a lot of our.

00:31:28.324 --> 00:31:29.963
Um, technical paperwork.

00:31:29.963 --> 00:31:30.834
AP and different things.

00:31:30.844 --> 00:31:34.653
Yeah, everything that all of us ADHD idiots shouldn't be doing.

00:31:34.753 --> 00:31:35.134
Fair.

00:31:35.183 --> 00:31:35.463
Yeah.

00:31:36.614 --> 00:31:36.963
Yeah.

00:31:37.023 --> 00:31:37.824
And it's same here.

00:31:38.173 --> 00:31:42.284
And she also handles a lot of our social media, which is a really good job there.

00:31:42.374 --> 00:31:42.594
Yeah.

00:31:42.993 --> 00:31:46.183
Um, I work some in the warehouse when I'm needed.

00:31:46.314 --> 00:31:48.423
Kind of, you know, overflow or whatever.

00:31:48.753 --> 00:31:51.894
But mostly I'm working with distributor accounts.

00:31:52.193 --> 00:31:54.693
We do all of like our EDI and data on the.

00:31:55.159 --> 00:31:57.128
Setting up accounts with our distributors.

00:31:58.088 --> 00:31:58.808
Doing sales.

00:31:58.838 --> 00:32:01.989
the main relationships guy in business development as well.

00:32:02.009 --> 00:32:02.298
Yep.

00:32:02.388 --> 00:32:09.058
And developing new products and working with designers and marketing team whenever they need something.

00:32:09.209 --> 00:32:09.528
Right.

00:32:09.808 --> 00:32:10.128
Yeah.

00:32:10.209 --> 00:32:10.699
Fair enough.

00:32:10.919 --> 00:32:11.088
Yep.

00:32:11.288 --> 00:32:12.818
And what's, what's your dad do?

00:32:13.429 --> 00:32:14.078
Sales.

00:32:14.269 --> 00:32:14.878
He's the main salesman.

00:32:14.878 --> 00:32:15.419
Straight salesman.

00:32:15.568 --> 00:32:16.419
Main salesman.

00:32:16.419 --> 00:32:16.509
Yep.

00:32:16.509 --> 00:32:16.848
Okay.

00:32:17.288 --> 00:32:18.048
Sourcing.

00:32:18.439 --> 00:32:18.729
Yep.

00:32:18.729 --> 00:32:19.699
We do some sourcing.

00:32:19.709 --> 00:32:19.919
Yep.

00:32:19.919 --> 00:32:20.192
Don't forget.

00:32:20.192 --> 00:32:20.989
What do you do, I mean?

00:32:21.439 --> 00:32:22.929
Don't forget the most important one.

00:32:23.088 --> 00:32:23.118
Yep.

00:32:24.108 --> 00:32:24.709
What's that?

00:32:26.078 --> 00:32:28.318
Oh, I thought you were talking about yourself.

00:32:28.709 --> 00:32:29.719
Your most important job.

00:32:29.739 --> 00:32:31.179
Well, that's also your most important job.

00:32:31.189 --> 00:32:31.828
It is.

00:32:31.838 --> 00:32:32.699
It absolutely is.

00:32:32.719 --> 00:32:35.278
And my mom does the general accounting.

00:32:35.598 --> 00:32:35.979
Okay.

00:32:36.459 --> 00:32:37.439
She keeps the books.

00:32:37.628 --> 00:32:37.929
Yep.

00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:38.429
Yep.

00:32:38.489 --> 00:32:44.769
She's, she's done it for a long time, so it's part time for her, what would probably be full time for most people.

00:32:44.788 --> 00:32:45.088
Right.

00:32:45.098 --> 00:32:48.088
She's been running the same type of system for decades.

00:32:48.098 --> 00:32:48.818
She's good at it.

00:32:48.919 --> 00:32:53.118
Nice to have clean books and something that doesn't have to, Struggle too hard to make them that way.

00:32:53.278 --> 00:32:55.138
Yeah, she does an awesome job.

00:32:55.209 --> 00:32:59.378
So in your role in, in sales, Dwayne, what, what's that look like now?

00:32:59.378 --> 00:33:06.249
Are you mostly trying to build relationships with the reps from the distributors in some respects?

00:33:06.528 --> 00:33:11.778
Actually, Chad does a lot of the, the, he's one of the kind of inside sales and stuff.

00:33:11.858 --> 00:33:12.269
Yeah, I do.

00:33:12.308 --> 00:33:21.594
I do a lot with them too, but he does more than I, I, uh, I also do a lot of the sourcing, watching the commodities markets and stuff like that.

00:33:21.874 --> 00:33:24.324
Oh, because you can probably hedge and stuff like that.

00:33:24.384 --> 00:33:24.653
Yes, sir.

00:33:24.653 --> 00:33:26.453
Pre, pre buy and whatever option.

00:33:26.574 --> 00:33:26.733
Yes, sir.

00:33:26.733 --> 00:33:27.423
Contract, yeah.

00:33:27.763 --> 00:33:41.334
And then, um, as a matter of fact, just as of today, I am full time sales, marketing and those kinds of things, no more deliveries, no more, I mean, that kind of stuff just, just happened today.

00:33:41.334 --> 00:33:43.423
Oh, you got new change in duties as well?

00:33:43.523 --> 00:33:43.834
Yep.

00:33:44.433 --> 00:33:45.753
Just put that on Conrad too?

00:33:45.763 --> 00:33:45.794
Yep.

00:33:46.403 --> 00:33:46.814
Or me.

00:33:47.124 --> 00:33:47.413
Either one.

00:33:47.564 --> 00:33:48.003
Gotcha.

00:33:48.034 --> 00:33:52.923
Whoever's available the day that's Because sometimes you'll get an emergency order and people need a delivery.

00:33:52.933 --> 00:33:53.743
Right, right.

00:33:54.134 --> 00:34:00.003
And that gives Dwayne a Freedom to kind of not have to be around the gravity of the operation necessarily.

00:34:00.084 --> 00:34:01.943
Oh, I got kicked out of there a long time ago.

00:34:04.564 --> 00:34:06.564
I like to deliver a lot.

00:34:06.564 --> 00:34:11.293
So anytime they even hint around that they need somebody to deliver, I'm over there.

00:34:11.293 --> 00:34:13.893
I got the truck around him before they can tell me I can't go.

00:34:15.934 --> 00:34:27.284
Um, what would be the next, uh, space for, like, if say you added two or three more hands, would it all be, Are there other skills on the team that you'd like to add to the team?

00:34:28.204 --> 00:34:32.554
You know, it's interesting you would say that because of where we came from.

00:34:32.784 --> 00:34:36.583
We, we were 27 miles from the closest town when we were in Agon.

00:34:37.143 --> 00:34:39.384
And so we had to overbuild everything.

00:34:39.443 --> 00:34:41.153
It just became a habit with us.

00:34:41.153 --> 00:34:48.853
And so we're in a position to, uh, expand quite significantly without having to add anybody.

00:34:48.963 --> 00:34:49.193
Oh.

00:34:50.114 --> 00:35:00.994
Yeah, I would say for me on my side of the business, if I could find a technical expert who's really good at, at the EDI stuff, or I might, they, they wouldn't be a full time person.

00:35:00.994 --> 00:35:02.574
When you say EDI, what do you mean by that?

00:35:02.713 --> 00:35:09.414
It's like your interface between how you upload your product data to a major distributor.

00:35:09.543 --> 00:35:09.943
Okay.

00:35:09.983 --> 00:35:12.063
Or, or a company buying your product.

00:35:12.114 --> 00:35:16.034
Um, the data side of that of, of inputting everything.

00:35:16.043 --> 00:35:16.534
Mm.

00:35:16.634 --> 00:35:17.724
I do most of that.

00:35:18.048 --> 00:35:25.509
Um, and I've learned the hard way enough times that if someone knew how to do it, I'd be happy to pay them and get it done.

00:35:25.798 --> 00:35:29.688
They probably wouldn't be a full time, they're probably someone I'd just, they'd be contract laborers.

00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:30.248
Yeah, yeah.

00:35:30.309 --> 00:35:36.878
So it seems like some kind of, probably repetitionist and there's easy, you can gather the data and you can input it.

00:35:37.018 --> 00:35:38.088
Yeah, you're probably right.

00:35:38.128 --> 00:35:50.403
Well, a lot of it's very little things like, Took me several months to figure out why like my photos weren't uploading it was because I didn't save them correctly and like the right wording Format and I was like, you know, that was a thing.

00:35:50.454 --> 00:35:50.903
Thank you.

00:35:51.313 --> 00:35:53.954
Yeah title of the photo learn as you go, right?

00:35:54.003 --> 00:36:08.054
Yeah, the hard way so what you're saying Dwayne is as far as your infrastructure with just the storage space for oils and you just have fuller trucks on your deliveries instead of having more trucks going out, that kind of thing.

00:36:08.353 --> 00:36:09.523
Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:36:09.523 --> 00:36:21.094
We, in fact, we can expand like 250 percent but we're where we do need, probably need to have help coming in the future is more marketing and sales.

00:36:22.623 --> 00:36:29.364
We just recently, for the first time ever started working with a marketing company where we never had any marketing really.

00:36:30.048 --> 00:36:31.208
So that's exciting.

00:36:31.608 --> 00:36:38.478
And then one of the big reasons we can expand is because most of our big distributors, they come to our door with their truck.

00:36:39.329 --> 00:36:40.608
And they just pick up right there.

00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.829
Yeah, so that marginal revenue just takes a pallet jack, wheel it over there by the door where they're going to park.

00:36:46.099 --> 00:36:51.099
And our delivery fee to them is quite a bit better than them picking up a backhaul.

00:36:51.208 --> 00:36:51.699
Yeah.

00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:54.929
So they just pick it up themselves mostly.

00:36:55.309 --> 00:36:58.659
And the freight business, the backhaul is all profit, so you can do it for less.

00:36:59.208 --> 00:37:00.918
You already paid the bills on the front haul.

00:37:01.018 --> 00:37:01.338
I don't know.

00:37:01.579 --> 00:37:02.639
Tell me, tell me about that.

00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:03.449
What's a backhaul mean?

00:37:03.909 --> 00:37:10.289
Say you're, um, say you're, you, someone buys your product, shipping it there.

00:37:10.489 --> 00:37:10.849
Okay.

00:37:10.889 --> 00:37:13.349
Well, if you don't have a backhaul, you drive all the way back empty.

00:37:13.684 --> 00:37:13.954
Yep.

00:37:13.954 --> 00:37:18.153
So most freight haulers, on the way back, they're finding something to haul back.

00:37:18.224 --> 00:37:18.693
Oh, right.

00:37:18.793 --> 00:37:23.494
Even if it's not even for them, they'll, one of their neighbors or somebody around Somebody else's stuff, yeah.

00:37:23.543 --> 00:37:27.744
Cause the load there pays for the trip, anything back is profit.

00:37:27.853 --> 00:37:28.264
Gotcha.

00:37:28.414 --> 00:37:31.094
But distributors have all, hundreds of trucks.

00:37:31.094 --> 00:37:32.893
They're going, taking stuff both ways all the time.

00:37:33.784 --> 00:37:38.483
A truck uses almost the same amount of fuel, tire wear, and everything, whether it's empty or loaded.

00:37:38.514 --> 00:37:39.414
Right, right.

00:37:39.423 --> 00:37:41.684
So, very expensive to be empty.

00:37:42.034 --> 00:37:42.324
Thank you.

00:37:42.333 --> 00:37:42.393
You're welcome.

00:37:42.693 --> 00:37:43.364
Makes sense.

00:37:43.474 --> 00:37:43.773
Okay.

00:37:44.284 --> 00:37:49.054
Um, I guess, uh, what's the secret sauce for your business?

00:37:49.054 --> 00:37:51.324
Is it all about relationships?

00:37:51.443 --> 00:37:52.153
Sourcing?

00:37:52.164 --> 00:37:52.773
Margin?

00:37:52.784 --> 00:37:54.713
A lot of, all those things are kind of important.

00:37:55.744 --> 00:37:57.653
Yeah, I would say relationships is the biggest one.

00:37:57.784 --> 00:37:57.963
Yeah.

00:37:57.974 --> 00:37:58.373
By far.

00:37:59.259 --> 00:38:02.938
That's probably the biggest difference from at least the straight agriculture.

00:38:02.958 --> 00:38:08.518
Not that it isn't important in farming and cattle raising and stuff, but there's not as many.

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.938
Right, you got the elevator man, you got the banker, a couple more people, fertilizer, seed.

00:38:14.708 --> 00:38:16.668
But then everybody else can go pack sand, kind of.

00:38:16.668 --> 00:38:21.509
But here you got 80 or 200 customers, plus a couple distributors, whatever.

00:38:21.833 --> 00:38:25.724
Yeah, most of our customers are through distribution, right?

00:38:26.204 --> 00:38:33.594
Um, I think, honestly, I think if you ask us in a year that we're going to say, probably the most important thing is marketing.

00:38:33.753 --> 00:38:35.873
We're learning so much about that now.

00:38:36.244 --> 00:38:37.963
We didn't even realize what we didn't know.

00:38:38.083 --> 00:38:38.373
Yeah.

00:38:38.958 --> 00:38:40.909
We're still not even sure what all we don't know.

00:38:41.099 --> 00:38:41.958
Yeah, that's so true.

00:38:42.068 --> 00:38:45.798
You just signed on with a, like a professional marketing agency in the last few months here.

00:38:45.849 --> 00:38:49.389
And we've been working hard educating ourselves and stuff too.

00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:50.949
Yeah, that's great, yeah.

00:38:51.429 --> 00:38:57.128
Um, do you care to give any kudos or, or uh, how do you choose a marketing agency?

00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:59.298
Only chosen one so far.

00:38:59.298 --> 00:39:03.978
So I'm not sure it's a, we chose one based on a relationship.

00:39:04.059 --> 00:39:09.579
Um, I do have a product designer who designs the labels and packaging.

00:39:09.878 --> 00:39:10.099
Okay.

00:39:10.108 --> 00:39:12.838
Um, he's, he makes things very pretty and does a great job.

00:39:13.088 --> 00:39:13.829
Chess arms.

00:39:13.858 --> 00:39:14.199
Yep.

00:39:14.358 --> 00:39:14.579
Yep.

00:39:14.628 --> 00:39:23.668
And he created a company with, he's sort of the designing half, the aesthetics half, and another professional that he's done a lot of work on the marketing side.

00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.588
So they've created a design marketing company.

00:39:25.659 --> 00:39:26.108
Oh, okay.

00:39:26.208 --> 00:39:26.929
Oh, and.

00:39:27.849 --> 00:39:29.969
He's done fantastic work for me over the years.

00:39:30.429 --> 00:39:31.378
And I really liked him.

00:39:31.429 --> 00:39:31.708
Right.

00:39:32.128 --> 00:39:33.458
You're assuming he chose a good partner?

00:39:33.518 --> 00:39:33.889
Yeah.

00:39:33.929 --> 00:39:40.059
And so when he started his company and we went to their, you know, celebrative opening night or whatever.

00:39:40.458 --> 00:39:42.818
And I was like, Jess, I, I need a marketing company.

00:39:43.179 --> 00:39:44.389
I'll be your first customer.

00:39:44.389 --> 00:39:46.239
Just let me know how we do it.

00:39:46.398 --> 00:39:46.588
Yeah.

00:39:46.588 --> 00:39:46.818
Yeah.

00:39:47.088 --> 00:39:48.518
And so things have been going well.

00:39:48.938 --> 00:39:49.099
Yeah.

00:39:49.318 --> 00:39:50.699
And Matthew's awesome too.

00:39:50.699 --> 00:39:52.168
We really like him so far.

00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:52.489
Yep.

00:39:52.548 --> 00:39:53.759
What's Matthew's last name?

00:39:53.759 --> 00:39:54.079
I forgot.

00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:54.309
Bye bye.

00:39:55.059 --> 00:39:55.239
I don't know.

00:39:56.728 --> 00:39:57.318
He's got one.

00:39:58.139 --> 00:39:59.079
I just call him Matt.

00:39:59.918 --> 00:40:09.528
So, I met uh Dwayne at a firestorm event and uh Just shortly thereafter, he was like, Yeah, I want to learn more about this loco think tank thing.

00:40:09.528 --> 00:40:11.639
And Chad, you probably just had your second meeting.

00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:17.318
Yeah, I think it was, uh, Well, if you include my first one, That was, uh, practice run.

00:40:17.318 --> 00:40:17.728
The intro.

00:40:17.958 --> 00:40:18.239
Yeah.

00:40:18.309 --> 00:40:18.648
Okay.

00:40:19.099 --> 00:40:20.208
So your second official one.

00:40:20.568 --> 00:40:20.728
Yeah.

00:40:20.809 --> 00:40:24.548
And, uh, any, uh, Any surprises?

00:40:24.588 --> 00:40:27.778
Any, uh, I didn't expect that kind of things?

00:40:28.009 --> 00:40:33.349
Um, Um, I just have been super pleased with the the group in general.

00:40:33.748 --> 00:40:37.318
I didn't expect to do it.

00:40:37.418 --> 00:40:42.918
Uh, when I first went in, I was very skeptical of just being like, I don't know if I really need this.

00:40:43.219 --> 00:40:45.708
I'm busy, even though it's four hours a month.

00:40:45.748 --> 00:40:47.608
It's not a lot of time.

00:40:47.728 --> 00:40:52.739
Uh, I'm always skeptical about people, groups and whatever.

00:40:52.739 --> 00:40:52.838
Yeah.

00:40:52.998 --> 00:40:53.739
You're not a joiner.

00:40:53.869 --> 00:40:54.318
Yeah.

00:40:54.318 --> 00:40:58.829
That's one of the things that most of our members have in common, actually, is they don't normally join things.

00:40:58.929 --> 00:40:59.168
Really?

00:40:59.188 --> 00:40:59.579
Agreed.

00:40:59.579 --> 00:40:59.909
Yeah.

00:40:59.949 --> 00:41:00.188
Yeah.

00:41:00.219 --> 00:41:01.438
Most of them aren't in the chamber.

00:41:01.438 --> 00:41:03.139
They're not in other things and stuff.

00:41:03.139 --> 00:41:04.989
And I don't know if this is just sounded more personal.

00:41:05.293 --> 00:41:07.284
prudent for them than other things.

00:41:07.693 --> 00:41:15.503
Um, but I've been very pleased with how, not only the dynamic of the group, um, but the focus of the things we discuss.

00:41:15.574 --> 00:41:30.653
Um, it's, uh, we talk about a lot of issues in business and as a business owner or an employer or whatever, but in a very positive way of no one's just sitting around complaining and being a whiner.

00:41:30.653 --> 00:41:31.034
Right.

00:41:31.094 --> 00:41:33.213
Everyone's more of like, these are the issues, but.

00:41:33.724 --> 00:41:37.664
This is why those are great issues to have and this is how we can tackle them.

00:41:38.114 --> 00:41:44.693
It's like everyone has issues or problems, but a very positive mentality towards it, which I really like.

00:41:44.773 --> 00:41:52.844
I don't deal well with people who just complain, but I don't think business owners are really those types of people usually, because if they are, they're not going to be around very long.

00:41:52.844 --> 00:41:53.474
Usually not.

00:41:53.673 --> 00:41:58.103
Because most business owners are just, you know, professional firefighters putting out fires all day.

00:41:58.333 --> 00:41:58.603
Yeah.

00:41:58.673 --> 00:42:06.878
And, um, I really like the, the The structure of the group and how we Tackle issues.

00:42:07.068 --> 00:42:08.418
Yeah, it's pretty cool.

00:42:08.478 --> 00:42:09.778
Well, I know they're glad to have you in there.

00:42:09.778 --> 00:42:17.248
So we'll check in Another time on that conversation Dwayne you're looking to potentially join a chapter as well.

00:42:17.248 --> 00:42:27.858
So you don't know What Chad's been receiving yet too much, but you just come through a free think so Yeah, um, well I am looking forward to, I'm not going to make this one, but maybe next month.

00:42:27.889 --> 00:42:28.208
Yeah.

00:42:28.469 --> 00:42:35.989
But, uh, I've really dedicated myself hard to sales and I've been putting in a massive amount of hours.

00:42:35.989 --> 00:42:38.869
And when you do that, you make a massive amount of more work.

00:42:39.099 --> 00:42:39.889
Right, yeah.

00:42:40.168 --> 00:42:45.518
And that's been going well, but I definitely do do think it'll happen down the road.

00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.559
I like to say the harder I work, the luckier I get.

00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:48.969
I love that saying.

00:42:49.809 --> 00:42:52.009
Pretty sure we have a poster that says that somewhere.

00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:53.909
The one I hate is.

00:42:54.809 --> 00:42:56.998
work smarter, not harder.

00:42:57.358 --> 00:42:58.858
I think too many people decide that.

00:42:59.358 --> 00:43:03.889
If I just work a little, a lot smarter, I don't have to work much at all.

00:43:03.889 --> 00:43:07.219
I think the same should be worked harder and smarter.

00:43:08.028 --> 00:43:11.239
We use the phrase, uh, perseverance here at Loco.

00:43:11.608 --> 00:43:11.818
I love that.

00:43:11.818 --> 00:43:14.478
That's the combination between perspiration and perseverance.

00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:16.338
Work hard and smart.

00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:19.528
For a long time, and maybe you'll get somewhere.

00:43:20.268 --> 00:43:21.829
Not very many shortcuts in this world.

00:43:22.429 --> 00:43:22.688
Nope.

00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.539
Um, what would you say are the, what would you say your team would say?

00:43:27.539 --> 00:43:29.128
Like, let's talk about Conrad here.

00:43:29.139 --> 00:43:35.188
Like, why is, why is your redheaded stepchild, uh, proud to be a member of this team?

00:43:35.188 --> 00:43:37.259
Why has he advanced in his responsibilities?

00:43:37.259 --> 00:43:41.523
What would he say that Healthy Harvest, uh, feels like to work for.

00:43:41.853 --> 00:43:45.213
Well, the reason that he's advanced in his position is, is easy.

00:43:45.213 --> 00:43:49.384
He's the kind of guy who, if he's supposed to be there at 6 30, he's there at six.

00:43:49.983 --> 00:43:57.983
If he needs to stay late until we're done, he's no complaints and he has a great attitude and he always comes guns blazing every day.

00:43:58.204 --> 00:43:59.344
So that's a big part of it.

00:43:59.353 --> 00:44:01.554
We're big culture type of people.

00:44:01.673 --> 00:44:07.934
Um, and he's always, always there with his sleeves rolled up and ready to go no matter what the issue is.

00:44:07.974 --> 00:44:08.934
That's a big part of it.

00:44:09.393 --> 00:44:15.603
Um, I think the reason that he enjoys being there is because he has a lot of leeway.

00:44:15.943 --> 00:44:19.764
Um, we've given him a lot of the freedoms to make decisions.

00:44:19.804 --> 00:44:22.724
He gets to do things his way in a lot of aspects.

00:44:23.673 --> 00:44:26.054
and continually take on more responsibility.

00:44:26.643 --> 00:44:35.414
And I, you know, it's not like micromanaged in a way of, uh, I think that a lot of people kind of hate that when they're just like, you have to do everything this way.

00:44:35.443 --> 00:44:35.673
Right.

00:44:35.673 --> 00:44:35.873
Right.

00:44:35.903 --> 00:44:37.563
And it's like, well, they have a brain.

00:44:37.583 --> 00:44:38.494
He's pretty smart.

00:44:38.503 --> 00:44:39.563
He does a good job.

00:44:39.744 --> 00:44:39.963
Right.

00:44:39.963 --> 00:44:42.284
He's there every day, doing, let him do his thing.

00:44:42.733 --> 00:44:45.824
Maybe show him how to do it the first time once and be like, yeah, you want to change it.

00:44:45.833 --> 00:44:46.574
You do what you do.

00:44:46.693 --> 00:44:47.023
Yeah.

00:44:47.574 --> 00:44:51.784
So he's, he's taken over a lot of big roles in the, how long has he been on the team?

00:44:52.389 --> 00:44:53.148
Five years now.

00:44:53.318 --> 00:44:53.688
Oh, wow.

00:44:53.768 --> 00:44:53.969
Yeah.

00:44:54.128 --> 00:44:54.469
Okay.

00:44:55.248 --> 00:45:00.778
And did your sister join later or as, as a Melissa and I'm sorry, your sister's name is Amanda.

00:45:00.829 --> 00:45:01.309
Amanda.

00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.639
Have they been on in the business since the beginning?

00:45:04.648 --> 00:45:05.389
Like both of you?

00:45:05.838 --> 00:45:07.608
Amanda has been, I think, four years.

00:45:07.818 --> 00:45:08.159
Okay.

00:45:08.188 --> 00:45:08.398
Yep.

00:45:08.858 --> 00:45:12.398
I think, uh, oh, that's what she actually came on during COVID.

00:45:12.588 --> 00:45:17.858
Oh, because, um, where she was working, you know, Was no longer a place to be able to work during COVID.

00:45:17.889 --> 00:45:18.268
Right.

00:45:18.568 --> 00:45:24.289
And we were the opposite of our restaurant business went to zero, which was very scary for a few weeks.

00:45:24.759 --> 00:45:26.389
But then our online business went up like.

00:45:27.483 --> 00:45:32.873
because no one would go to a grocery store, and everyone was buying it on Amazon, and we were like, we need more people.

00:45:33.003 --> 00:45:33.574
Interesting.

00:45:33.653 --> 00:45:35.514
So, she's been on ever since then.

00:45:35.623 --> 00:45:35.914
Okay.

00:45:36.503 --> 00:45:46.634
She actually came on part time, and then Chad came in the office one day and said, you know what, she's, she's awesome, we should see if she's interested in staying.

00:45:46.634 --> 00:45:46.994
That's cool.

00:45:47.534 --> 00:45:49.954
Not every brother thinks of his sister that way.

00:45:50.918 --> 00:45:52.199
Another one, definitely not.

00:45:53.989 --> 00:45:55.599
I can't wait to send her this podcast.

00:45:57.978 --> 00:46:13.838
So, um, I feel like it's a good time to, and some of this will kind of predate you, Chad, but we'll do the best we can with it, but we like to jump in the time machine all the way back into the way back and hear where, where, where this family came from of entrepreneurial spirit creators.

00:46:14.409 --> 00:46:17.588
Uh, Dwayne, where were you in third grade?

00:46:17.588 --> 00:46:17.739
Third grade.

00:46:18.648 --> 00:46:19.809
Wiggins, Colorado.

00:46:19.869 --> 00:46:20.449
Wiggins.

00:46:20.528 --> 00:46:21.148
Yeah, Wiggins home.

00:46:21.148 --> 00:46:25.099
I financed a home in Wiggins one time, a modular home that was being moved out there.

00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:36.108
It's actually kind of a nice town, like in the, in the expanse of eastern Colorado, Wiggins has got some cool geography around there, there's some water even not too far away.

00:46:36.179 --> 00:46:43.869
Well, in 1960, what would that be, seven or so, that was, Wiggins was very, very tiny.

00:46:44.623 --> 00:46:45.574
Very, very tiny.

00:46:45.574 --> 00:46:48.614
I think there was like maybe 15 kids in my class.

00:46:48.844 --> 00:46:49.184
Okay.

00:46:49.403 --> 00:46:52.014
So, yeah, it was a great place, I think.

00:46:52.083 --> 00:46:52.454
I'm sure.

00:46:52.454 --> 00:46:52.853
Yeah.

00:46:53.134 --> 00:46:54.503
Was, were you on a farm setting?

00:46:54.733 --> 00:46:55.224
Yes, sir.

00:46:55.353 --> 00:46:55.704
Mm hmm.

00:46:55.704 --> 00:46:57.824
My dad farmed north of Wiggins, about a mile.

00:46:57.994 --> 00:46:58.344
Okay.

00:46:58.994 --> 00:47:05.193
Family, uh, siblings, uh Yeah, I had, uh, three brothers.

00:47:05.224 --> 00:47:07.293
I'm down to one now, and a sister.

00:47:07.393 --> 00:47:07.753
Okay.

00:47:08.293 --> 00:47:08.574
Yeah.

00:47:08.574 --> 00:47:12.329
And, uh Two of the brothers farmed with us.

00:47:13.059 --> 00:47:15.739
And you said you lost two, two brothers?

00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:16.068
Yeah.

00:47:16.068 --> 00:47:17.639
Was that in farm accidents or something?

00:47:17.838 --> 00:47:29.849
So yeah, one of the reasons we weren't having fun anymore on the farm is my one brother Larry, he was, uh, he was bigger than life kind of guy.

00:47:29.878 --> 00:47:36.228
Just everybody loved him and he did a lot in the community and he was an actor, he supported the acting.

00:47:37.313 --> 00:47:50.483
And, and, uh, yeah, he spent half his time in New York acting and he was a wrestler and so he coached wrestling, real personality, Chad and him were extremely close when he had his, when he had his accident out there.

00:47:51.094 --> 00:47:54.373
And so the, uh, that was a major, major blow.

00:47:54.373 --> 00:48:05.923
And, and then ironically, uh, my brother, Tim died from non Hoskins disease and about three or four years after we're in this business.

00:48:06.498 --> 00:48:17.318
Uh, we got a, uh, call from a lawyer and, um, They said, well, you know, your, your brother probably could sue Monsanto because That's what I was going to say.

00:48:17.318 --> 00:48:17.668
Yeah, yeah.

00:48:17.668 --> 00:48:19.239
That's been identified with Roundup, right?

00:48:19.398 --> 00:48:20.659
Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:48:20.659 --> 00:48:29.284
He sprayed all the Roundup around our bins and stuff and, and so, uh, Yeah, that's, we're pretty hardcore non GMO now.

00:48:29.333 --> 00:48:30.304
Right, right.

00:48:30.304 --> 00:48:35.623
Well, and my, my first real job was, uh, a flagger for a spray coop.

00:48:35.634 --> 00:48:36.434
You know what that is?

00:48:36.574 --> 00:48:37.054
I do.

00:48:37.423 --> 00:48:43.333
Um, so my brother and I, so they didn't have any markers or GPS or anything like in those days, Chad.

00:48:43.454 --> 00:48:52.759
So we would walk the width of the spray coop and then dad would head straight for us and douse us in the, uh, You know, after glow of the, whatever he was spraying.

00:48:53.458 --> 00:49:01.768
And then we'd walk across the field and do that all, you know, basically 4 30 AM until 7 AM was when the wind didn't blow in North Dakota.

00:49:02.048 --> 00:49:03.878
So that's when we did that every day in the summertime.

00:49:04.869 --> 00:49:11.409
Um, but yeah, so I admit, you know, so that had to have been reinforcing into your whole transition and journey, right?

00:49:11.539 --> 00:49:16.998
Like, yeah, it definitely was, but it was also, you know, tragic.

00:49:17.588 --> 00:49:20.298
I'm the jerk that sent him out there to spray it too, you know?

00:49:20.298 --> 00:49:24.179
It was a little humbling and kind of hardcore, you know.

00:49:24.278 --> 00:49:25.099
Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:49:25.699 --> 00:49:26.048
Yeah.

00:49:26.128 --> 00:49:28.509
They also used to use a lot of those guys for airplanes.

00:49:29.903 --> 00:49:30.403
What do you mean?

00:49:31.173 --> 00:49:32.684
Aerial applicators use flags.

00:49:32.684 --> 00:49:33.164
Oh, right.

00:49:33.293 --> 00:49:34.204
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:35.023 --> 00:49:36.873
Um, yeah, so that was my first job.

00:49:37.153 --> 00:49:38.793
So, tell me about the, the scene.

00:49:38.793 --> 00:49:45.784
So, you had the, uh, three brothers, one sister, um, was it a successful farm?

00:49:45.784 --> 00:49:47.744
Was it, um, small, large?

00:49:47.744 --> 00:49:48.773
Did you have animals?

00:49:48.934 --> 00:49:54.594
Um, it's, I think in our biggest we were at 4, 000 acres.

00:49:54.594 --> 00:49:54.914
Okay.

00:49:55.153 --> 00:49:57.014
So that's pretty sizable back then especially.

00:49:57.204 --> 00:49:57.623
Yeah.

00:49:57.704 --> 00:50:00.744
And, um, we, we were successful, yeah.

00:50:00.773 --> 00:50:07.873
We, we sold out because, uh, like I said, we just I remember the last year we were there.

00:50:07.873 --> 00:50:16.173
Ironically, one of the most profitable years we ever had, but just because we got, we, John Deere came out with, uh, crop insurance.

00:50:16.293 --> 00:50:16.833
Okay.

00:50:17.304 --> 00:50:17.943
John Deere did?

00:50:18.014 --> 00:50:18.483
Uh huh.

00:50:18.634 --> 00:50:19.023
Okay.

00:50:19.324 --> 00:50:40.398
And they were offering a deal, and so we insured the crap out of it, and we got the crap hailed out of us, and, and it paid off very well, but it broke all the windows out of my parents new house and all that, and everybody, and my brother's, uh, It was just within a year after my last brother Larry passed away and, and, um, It was just kind of reinforcing of that fresh start.

00:50:40.409 --> 00:50:42.579
We were just ready, yeah, we were ready to be done.

00:50:42.628 --> 00:50:42.969
Yeah.

00:50:43.409 --> 00:50:48.349
Um, tell me about little Dwayne, uh, in first grade, third grade, that kind of thing.

00:50:48.349 --> 00:50:49.389
Were you a good student?

00:50:49.429 --> 00:50:55.949
Were you, uh, you seem kind of, uh, Hard to discipline, potentially.

00:50:57.588 --> 00:50:59.599
I was probably the naughtiest kid in the class.

00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.228
I was not a good student.

00:51:02.228 --> 00:51:03.429
I was not a good kid.

00:51:04.219 --> 00:51:05.878
Not, uh, not at all.

00:51:06.018 --> 00:51:06.739
We still love you.

00:51:06.849 --> 00:51:09.139
Neither one of us do very well with rules.

00:51:09.309 --> 00:51:10.148
Yeah.

00:51:10.219 --> 00:51:17.688
Authority is, uh, I like to say, uh, I'm a pretty amenable guy, like, ask me to do something, and I'm probably your guy.

00:51:18.048 --> 00:51:21.059
Tell me to do something, and I'll probably tell you where to stick it.

00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.068
You know, it's just all about tone.

00:51:23.668 --> 00:51:24.759
Well said, yeah.

00:51:24.858 --> 00:51:28.739
So you kind of did the traditional Wiggins existence, I imagine.

00:51:28.739 --> 00:51:32.039
Started working on the farm right out of high school, or did you do other things?

00:51:32.429 --> 00:51:33.409
Out of high school?

00:51:33.588 --> 00:51:34.119
Out of grade school?

00:51:34.128 --> 00:51:40.648
I mean, yeah, exactly, yeah, no, I had, I had logged about 10, 000 driving miles before I got my driver's license at 14.

00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:40.878
Yeah.

00:51:40.878 --> 00:51:41.563
Yes, sir.

00:51:41.563 --> 00:51:43.358
Yes, sir, exactly, yeah.

00:51:43.858 --> 00:51:48.309
Um, every day after school, I would run in and get a snack and then run down the road to play.

00:51:48.668 --> 00:51:51.559
Half mile or whatever it was and ride the tractor with my dad.

00:51:52.358 --> 00:51:59.728
And then every day, well, it was sixth grade or something that they moved the farm to Holyoke out in further Eastern Colorado.

00:52:00.108 --> 00:52:00.748
That's where I grew up.

00:52:01.128 --> 00:52:05.579
Move the whole operation or sold what you had in near Wiggins and moved over there.

00:52:05.579 --> 00:52:05.858
Yep.

00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:06.869
I was, he's right.

00:52:06.869 --> 00:52:08.748
It was between sixth and seventh grade.

00:52:09.268 --> 00:52:12.079
And my dad got me over that desire to drive a tractor.

00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:12.528
I was.

00:52:12.878 --> 00:52:13.838
in that tractor.

00:52:14.469 --> 00:52:15.028
All the time.

00:52:15.099 --> 00:52:15.889
All the time.

00:52:15.898 --> 00:52:17.628
They were mostly cabless back then.

00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:18.088
Right.

00:52:18.813 --> 00:52:20.934
Yeah, I was lucky, uh, when I started farming.

00:52:20.943 --> 00:52:33.824
We, the air conditioning was kind of weak, but at least we had sound guard cabs in the 4630 and, uh, you know, so I know all the greatest hits of the eighties and early nineties and country on top 40.

00:52:34.143 --> 00:52:38.784
4630s and 4440s and that stuff was the envy of us.

00:52:38.784 --> 00:52:40.514
We didn't have nothing, nothing that nice.

00:52:40.514 --> 00:52:45.043
We got our first 4440 and I'm telling you what we were in heaven.

00:52:45.083 --> 00:52:45.333
Yeah.

00:52:45.333 --> 00:52:45.934
Same here.

00:52:45.963 --> 00:52:50.434
Yeah, no, we, we spent a long time with the 4620 and uh, the 4020 before that.

00:52:50.563 --> 00:52:53.923
But yeah, I got spoiled with nice retractors when I was growing up.

00:52:54.244 --> 00:52:54.393
Yeah.

00:52:54.423 --> 00:52:55.983
'cause you were, you came along.

00:52:56.074 --> 00:52:58.324
Well, I guess let's jump back to you, Dwayne.

00:52:58.623 --> 00:53:04.264
Uh, did you fall in love right away and find Melissa somewhere out there in eastern Colorado too?

00:53:04.954 --> 00:53:05.463
Yeah.

00:53:05.554 --> 00:53:10.114
You know, um, I met Melissa actually skiing.

00:53:10.443 --> 00:53:12.873
I was a ski bum one winter Okay.

00:53:13.204 --> 00:53:17.134
Up in, uh, Georgetown and worked as a bartender.

00:53:18.108 --> 00:53:22.458
And for an hour and a half every day for a lift ticket and a meal, I met her up there.

00:53:22.458 --> 00:53:22.489
Okay.

00:53:23.358 --> 00:53:25.579
And, um, I don't know why she hung around.

00:53:25.579 --> 00:53:31.009
I was wilder than hills and she, uh, she saw something, I guess, where was she from?

00:53:31.248 --> 00:53:32.268
Bertha, actually.

00:53:32.329 --> 00:53:32.929
Oh, is that right?

00:53:32.929 --> 00:53:33.168
Yeah.

00:53:33.168 --> 00:53:33.170
Okay.

00:53:33.175 --> 00:53:33.423
Mm-Hmm.

00:53:34.878 --> 00:53:42.648
And was it just like, boom, it was a romance right from the start, almost, you know, uh, it certainly was for me.

00:53:42.648 --> 00:53:46.518
I, and I guess it was her, she kept coming back every weekend.

00:53:46.518 --> 00:53:46.909
Right.

00:53:47.088 --> 00:53:47.599
But, uh.

00:53:48.503 --> 00:53:50.693
She made you work for it a little bit though, ultimately.

00:53:50.704 --> 00:53:55.083
Well, the wild things that were going on at that time.

00:53:55.173 --> 00:53:55.643
And when is this?

00:53:55.643 --> 00:53:57.327
1983.

00:53:57.327 --> 00:53:59.010
Okay.

00:53:59.010 --> 00:54:06.753
And one of the things that, uh, She could outsmart me right away when I met her.

00:54:06.753 --> 00:54:10.273
I said, you are 18.

00:54:10.273 --> 00:54:11.528
She goes, well, I will be in two weeks.

00:54:11.528 --> 00:54:14.704
So we're trying to figure out what two weeks it was in that next three months.

00:54:14.778 --> 00:54:20.958
I was like, when is your birthday again?

00:54:21.018 --> 00:54:23.028
I was almost here and went, okay.

00:54:25.949 --> 00:54:26.958
So yeah.

00:54:26.969 --> 00:54:28.168
She's like, tell me more.

00:54:28.378 --> 00:54:28.858
Not.

00:54:28.969 --> 00:54:29.918
Oh, I've heard all of it.

00:54:29.929 --> 00:54:30.528
Oh, sure.

00:54:30.548 --> 00:54:30.688
Yeah.

00:54:30.688 --> 00:54:31.509
There's no secrets.

00:54:31.509 --> 00:54:34.048
I was waiting for him to get a date wrong so I could correct him.

00:54:34.048 --> 00:54:35.509
Yeah.

00:54:35.509 --> 00:54:37.588
So, uh, did you like.

00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.838
Bring her back out to Holyoke then soon after or how's that go?

00:54:41.858 --> 00:54:47.298
Well, yeah, she came out to Holyoke right after she got out of out of high school when she graduated.

00:54:47.358 --> 00:55:18.539
Okay out there and Her first thing was She had some experience of a little bit of accounting because she worked for a school district okay, and so one of her first jobs was I You know paying bills and stuff and I will forget one time She's gonna be mad when she hears this, but Here she come out in the field and she had a purple Camaro and it was Big dust cloud she was hauling back You need to come in and call the electric company.

00:55:18.539 --> 00:55:19.969
There's been a horrible mistake.

00:55:20.018 --> 00:55:20.289
I go.

00:55:20.289 --> 00:55:20.798
What's up?

00:55:20.798 --> 00:55:23.518
She goes the electric bill is 15, 000.

00:55:24.268 --> 00:55:38.208
I said no, that's probably right Then and the lights were off the air conditioner was off Like she I was like, well, no that's you know to run the wells It's not the house electricity.

00:55:38.548 --> 00:55:39.259
Oh gosh.

00:55:40.289 --> 00:55:42.268
And so did she not pay the bill?

00:55:42.268 --> 00:55:43.358
Why was all the lights off?

00:55:43.539 --> 00:55:44.898
Oh, she was trying to save the money.

00:55:45.228 --> 00:55:46.829
She just couldn't believe it was that high.

00:55:49.429 --> 00:55:51.369
Now I get it.

00:55:51.369 --> 00:55:57.219
So right away, you know, that was super impressive to me because she was obviously not a lady.

00:55:57.219 --> 00:56:01.509
It was going to go out and just They just spend money unnecessarily kind of thing.

00:56:01.528 --> 00:56:05.458
Yeah, she was, she's always been better at it than me from day one.

00:56:05.739 --> 00:56:11.188
You seem like you potentially get a, get a, get a whim and execute on it if there's enough money in the checking account.

00:56:11.219 --> 00:56:19.059
Yeah, well there's a saying in our place, it takes Everybody there to keep me from doing stupid stuff, and they don't always succeed.

00:56:20.778 --> 00:56:27.088
So, you mentioned you had, uh, like 12 different rodeos before this Healthy Harvest business.

00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.958
Can you, uh, send me through a bit of a cliff notes on some of that?

00:56:31.278 --> 00:56:35.074
Aside from The farm and did you have feeder, feedlots too?

00:56:35.333 --> 00:56:37.603
Well, yeah, we, we had a feedlot.

00:56:37.643 --> 00:56:39.804
We had a grain company, Stro Grain.

00:56:39.813 --> 00:56:41.083
We had Stro's Feedlot.

00:56:41.083 --> 00:56:43.623
We had a farm business, TLT Brothers.

00:56:44.523 --> 00:56:51.474
And then in our grain business, we had, uh, three more LLCs that we partnered up with truck drivers.

00:56:51.634 --> 00:56:52.284
Um.

00:56:52.713 --> 00:56:53.074
Okay.

00:56:53.518 --> 00:56:55.298
We had a real estate business.

00:56:55.329 --> 00:56:56.389
We'd say green business.

00:56:56.389 --> 00:57:06.759
You're like buying from some elevators and selling them other places or just arbitraging almost where you secured in one local market and you can truck it to someplace else and make a little margin.

00:57:06.759 --> 00:57:21.628
Or, you know, it's funny how things happen, but we had, we had these, we had boughten, um, trucks and, uh, so we would try to, you know, we would sell X amount of bushels to a large feedlot in the Greeley area or somewhere.

00:57:21.659 --> 00:57:21.918
And.

00:57:22.634 --> 00:57:24.534
And they take it when they want.

00:57:24.724 --> 00:57:43.114
And so we had drivers that were sitting sometimes and they would call up and say, well, yeah, we can't, you know, we have, I remember one year we had a million bushels contract in over three months, January, February, March, and they wouldn't let us take it, wouldn't let us take it, wouldn't let us take it.

00:57:43.123 --> 00:57:44.873
And then March they wanted it all.

00:57:44.873 --> 00:57:47.773
And so, and so it was a very difficult thing.

00:57:47.923 --> 00:57:48.264
Right.

00:57:48.293 --> 00:57:51.233
So you have enough capacity to deliver a million bushels in March.

00:57:52.009 --> 00:57:55.998
But guys that also want work as truck drivers in January, February.

00:57:56.179 --> 00:58:04.949
Yeah, so what we started doing is, You know, we had the crop that we raised, which we fed a lot of it, and then we started buying a lot of corn.

00:58:05.509 --> 00:58:18.378
And then, um, we always, that way, we always had enough to keep our own trucks going, and then we built relationship with other, with other green, other green haulers and that's kind of how that all got going.

00:58:18.378 --> 00:58:22.838
And did you have an elevator outfit or something too, where you could keep track of the bushelage and stuff?

00:58:22.838 --> 00:58:26.688
I guess you'd just go right on site and just take it out of their bins or whatever.

00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:27.898
Yeah.

00:58:28.028 --> 00:58:29.219
So is there a chain of custody?

00:58:29.458 --> 00:58:29.739
Yeah.

00:58:29.739 --> 00:58:32.478
And that's stuff that we bought from farmers on, on the farm.

00:58:32.478 --> 00:58:33.929
It's very common practice.

00:58:33.929 --> 00:58:37.539
You load the truck and when you get there, you know, you weigh the truck, right?

00:58:38.338 --> 00:58:45.559
So even when we're, we very seldom bought grain for our own cattle, we used our own grain.

00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:45.969
Sure.

00:58:46.268 --> 00:58:56.009
I mean, sometimes a farmer would call up and say, you know, I got, you know, hailed out and, and the corn is never going to make, and you're putting up high moisture corn.

00:58:56.009 --> 00:58:56.789
Could we sell yet?

00:58:57.659 --> 00:58:59.668
10 loads to get rid of this, that kind of thing.

00:58:59.858 --> 00:59:00.353
Yep, yep.

00:59:00.353 --> 00:59:08.858
But, uh, very seldom do we buy our, buy for ourselves, but, you know, feedlots and stuff do that all the time, very common practice in the ag world.

00:59:09.268 --> 00:59:12.639
And were you, did you say you were, you were feeding your own corn as well?

00:59:12.878 --> 00:59:13.438
Yes, sir.

00:59:13.478 --> 00:59:23.068
So, maybe for people that don't really know what the, the name of the game is for a feedlot, can you, uh, describe kind of a, I guess the customer journey of a steer?

00:59:23.068 --> 00:59:23.088
Sure.

00:59:24.018 --> 00:59:24.838
Customer journey.

00:59:25.498 --> 00:59:28.509
So, well, we weren't a normal feedlot.

00:59:28.818 --> 00:59:31.978
Our, our You had the cow calf operation, too?

00:59:32.429 --> 00:59:36.168
Well, we did, but not near enough to keep the feedlot going.

00:59:36.188 --> 00:59:36.568
Right.

00:59:36.759 --> 00:59:49.898
But my dad was extremely, um, He, he didn't see any instance in abusing cattle or hooting and hollering and raising cane and all that.

00:59:49.909 --> 01:00:00.248
And so we, we worked real hard and we, we actually went to some different schools about, you know, stockmanship with cattle and, and, uh, we took the cattle out of the pen every day.

01:00:00.278 --> 01:00:02.009
Happy cows grow faster kind of thing.

01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:02.449
Thank you.

01:00:02.449 --> 01:00:02.708
Yeah.

01:00:02.838 --> 01:00:04.719
Regular cowboys thought we were hippies.

01:00:05.449 --> 01:00:05.878
Right.

01:00:07.139 --> 01:00:10.539
Well, we actually took the cattle out of the pen and exercised them every day.

01:00:10.818 --> 01:00:14.389
And every day when you got to the gate, they were standing there, they couldn't wait.

01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:18.208
They'd get out and run and buck and, and do all those kinds of things.

01:00:18.208 --> 01:00:22.009
And so we, uh, I don't know if that's a typical.

01:00:22.509 --> 01:00:23.938
No, I've never heard of that before.

01:00:23.938 --> 01:00:24.309
Yeah.

01:00:25.188 --> 01:00:26.909
Plus it costs probably a lot of money, right?

01:00:26.909 --> 01:00:29.619
Like just labor to get them going.

01:00:29.619 --> 01:00:31.648
But once you train them, it actually didn't cost that much.

01:00:31.849 --> 01:00:32.759
I was pretty cheap.

01:00:32.969 --> 01:00:33.329
Right.

01:00:34.349 --> 01:00:36.568
The honest to God truth is we spent way less.

01:00:37.914 --> 01:00:41.364
Last because they didn't have to drug them up in antibiotics as much.

01:00:41.384 --> 01:00:44.083
And yeah, we didn't have near as many sick ones.

01:00:44.193 --> 01:00:53.114
Um, and the other thing we did, you know, if we were going to work cattle and say we worked, I don't know, 1500 head or something, we're done at two o'clock.

01:00:53.623 --> 01:00:58.193
Then George would go put them away and then he'd open the gate to the next pen.

01:00:59.628 --> 01:01:06.219
Let it open all the way through the shoot and then they go right back to their pen and they'd already been through it Right afraid they'd walk right through it.

01:01:06.248 --> 01:01:06.759
Oh, wow.

01:01:06.818 --> 01:01:11.009
Yeah made everything a lot easier We did all kinds of weird things like that that really worked for us.

01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:11.469
Yeah.

01:01:11.608 --> 01:01:29.344
Well, let's and cattle are interesting animals were Now that there's a lot more data on it that even a small amount of stress Really impacts the overall production of the animal And getting them used to the shoot and letting them get out and blow off some steam every day.

01:01:29.753 --> 01:01:34.463
It changed a lot, because I remember we started that when I was probably 13, 14.

01:01:34.463 --> 01:01:34.844
Okay.

01:01:34.983 --> 01:01:37.603
And I spent most of my time in the summers at the feedlot.

01:01:38.184 --> 01:01:41.184
And it was a very big difference, uh, when we started doing that.

01:01:41.184 --> 01:01:42.353
Like you could tell the way they behaved.

01:01:42.494 --> 01:01:43.003
Uh, yeah.

01:01:43.003 --> 01:01:45.173
They were sketchier when they didn't get exercised.

01:01:45.193 --> 01:01:47.603
And I treated a shitload less.

01:01:47.909 --> 01:01:52.608
Like, we didn't treat near as many cattle from sickness when, when we started doing that more.

01:01:52.789 --> 01:01:53.989
They're just healthier and happier.

01:01:54.028 --> 01:01:57.628
They didn't ding more hooves up or other issues just from that?

01:01:57.878 --> 01:02:05.684
We'd get cattle in from, like, Montana, that first time they'd seen humans.

01:02:05.688 --> 01:02:06.134
Right, right.

01:02:06.193 --> 01:02:09.673
Was, you know, when they got around the truck, they lived in the mountains forever.

01:02:09.733 --> 01:02:09.974
Yeah.

01:02:09.974 --> 01:02:10.963
And they would be independent.

01:02:10.963 --> 01:02:12.494
They'd just be scared to death.

01:02:12.583 --> 01:02:12.914
Right.

01:02:13.094 --> 01:02:19.514
And so we would start out outside the pen and we'd walk towards'em until they got nervous and we'd back off and we'd walk towards them.

01:02:19.844 --> 01:02:21.434
Just keep working our way in there.

01:02:21.793 --> 01:02:27.974
And usually it took about an hour, but within an hour they usually would come up and walk around us and would calm'em down.

01:02:28.443 --> 01:02:32.494
If a coyote came in a pen, they wouldn't get freaked out and bust the gates open.

01:02:32.543 --> 01:02:33.153
Yeah, interesting.

01:02:33.253 --> 01:02:36.103
So, yeah, we, we did a lot, and that was huge.

01:02:36.184 --> 01:02:36.514
That was huge.

01:02:36.514 --> 01:02:36.773
Yeah.

01:02:36.773 --> 01:02:42.353
Well, I think probably, you know, what would resonate, resonate more with listeners here is their dog.

01:02:42.764 --> 01:02:51.373
Like, you know how much better behaved your dog is when you walk him every day, or three times a week, or five times a week, or something, than if you just leave him cooped up.

01:02:51.373 --> 01:02:52.474
They, They get nutty.

01:02:53.554 --> 01:02:53.884
Yeah.

01:02:54.403 --> 01:02:56.153
Cause a lot of treat them more like dogs.

01:02:56.963 --> 01:02:57.423
We did.

01:02:57.563 --> 01:02:57.804
Yeah.

01:02:57.804 --> 01:03:04.103
They would come up by the time when we started doing this, they would, I'd walk through the pen and several of them would come lick on me, literally.

01:03:04.344 --> 01:03:04.664
Yeah.

01:03:04.914 --> 01:03:07.403
Which that never happened at any other feedlots I saw.

01:03:08.583 --> 01:03:16.074
Well, the name of the game for the feedlot, uh, then it'd be what, buy them at like five or 700 pounds or something like that and make them how big or?

01:03:16.123 --> 01:03:17.494
Well, we, we.

01:03:17.494 --> 01:03:17.514
Yeah.

01:03:18.043 --> 01:03:19.193
It was all math.

01:03:19.244 --> 01:03:22.173
I mean, you know, sometimes we have analysis of the market.

01:03:22.324 --> 01:03:22.713
Yeah.

01:03:22.713 --> 01:03:35.353
So we might have three 50 weights in there and something happens or it gets late in the year or it gets dry or it gets wet and all of a sudden they're a premium and you just simply do the math.

01:03:35.353 --> 01:03:36.554
Hey, guess what?

01:03:36.554 --> 01:03:43.483
I can sell this calf for X amount and I can buy a 750 pound for X amount and I can't put the gain on for that.

01:03:43.483 --> 01:03:47.273
So we'd sell the three fifties and buy the seven fifties or whatever.

01:03:47.273 --> 01:03:53.204
But in general, In general, you're right, we bought a lot of four weight calves, especially in the winter, and um, fed them out.

01:03:53.414 --> 01:03:53.764
Okay.

01:03:53.853 --> 01:03:54.304
All the way through.

01:03:54.423 --> 01:03:58.353
That's a 400 pound calf, which is how, how old is that?

01:03:58.603 --> 01:04:00.003
Um, nine months.

01:04:00.083 --> 01:04:00.503
Okay.

01:04:00.563 --> 01:04:01.804
Maybe they're nine months old.

01:04:01.864 --> 01:04:06.884
And then you bring them up to 800, 900 pounds, or 750 pounds?

01:04:06.914 --> 01:04:10.534
For twelve, twelve to fourteen hundred.

01:04:10.744 --> 01:04:11.233
Oh, wow.

01:04:11.264 --> 01:04:13.143
Okay, so they get pretty, pretty big.

01:04:13.244 --> 01:04:13.384
Yeah.

01:04:13.454 --> 01:04:16.693
And so then we're up, maybe they're 18 months old at that time or something?

01:04:16.753 --> 01:04:16.974
Yeah.

01:04:16.974 --> 01:04:17.043
Okay.

01:04:18.193 --> 01:04:19.094
Pretty good assessment.

01:04:19.153 --> 01:04:19.514
Yeah.

01:04:20.043 --> 01:04:22.094
Depends on what you grow them on and stuff.

01:04:22.333 --> 01:04:22.753
Right.

01:04:22.813 --> 01:04:32.554
We, uh, You know, we, we used to run them out on rye a lot cause we followed edible beans with rye and, and so rye is just loaded with protein.

01:04:32.574 --> 01:04:35.824
So we'd give them a half pound of roughage or so with them.

01:04:35.983 --> 01:04:36.344
Okay.

01:04:36.384 --> 01:04:39.983
And they'd maybe do three quarters to a pound and a half a day out there.

01:04:40.074 --> 01:04:40.414
Yeah.

01:04:40.463 --> 01:04:46.454
But when they came in the lot and started getting all that roughage, we, we called it compensatory gain.

01:04:46.853 --> 01:04:50.103
They would just explode to get five pounds a day.

01:04:50.224 --> 01:04:52.693
Wow! So yeah, that really worked well for us.

01:04:52.704 --> 01:04:53.614
Huh, interesting.

01:04:54.143 --> 01:05:02.804
Do different cows, like I'm thinking about that stress thing that you're talking about, but probably some cows get more stressed out than other ones, right?

01:05:02.844 --> 01:05:05.773
Like, do you notice that in their individual gains and stuff?

01:05:05.773 --> 01:05:06.733
You mean like breeds?

01:05:07.153 --> 01:05:13.708
Yeah, or even just from a personality standpoint is what I'm thinking, like It's mostly how you treat them.

01:05:17.298 --> 01:05:20.239
Where they come from, where they come from is huge.

01:05:20.949 --> 01:05:26.469
Like we had this one guy that had us, um, warming up cattle for him, which is an expression of means.

01:05:26.784 --> 01:05:31.873
Bringing in lightweight calves, getting them up to that 750 pound, 800 pound.

01:05:31.873 --> 01:05:33.764
And he would take them on from there and finish them out.

01:05:33.833 --> 01:05:34.773
Exactly right.

01:05:35.123 --> 01:05:36.943
But he brought them all in from Florida.

01:05:37.063 --> 01:05:42.423
And so, the reason they wanted us to do it is because of the techniques we used.

01:05:42.423 --> 01:05:45.454
We had way less death loss and stuff like that than normal.

01:05:45.494 --> 01:05:49.614
Well, they got all these stressed out cows that have been, calves that have been traveling all the way from Florida.

01:05:49.784 --> 01:05:53.074
Well, and you, you know, It's funny.

01:05:53.134 --> 01:05:56.704
You can go to Wyoming and think, wow, what could live out here?

01:05:56.704 --> 01:05:59.043
And you drive by in a cattle or fat, right?

01:05:59.103 --> 01:06:13.858
But you can go to, uh, You know, Tennessee, in the rainy season, and they're standing in grass, it's up past their, you can't hardly see them, and they're starving to death, because the grass is so washy and wet, it just goes right through them, they don't get any nutrients.

01:06:13.858 --> 01:06:14.708
Oh, is that right?

01:06:14.739 --> 01:06:22.634
And so, you get those cattle that come up, Oh, and their stomachs have to work extra hard to take all that water through, I imagine, whereas it's pre pre season.

01:06:22.773 --> 01:06:26.773
pre densified nutrition in the Wyoming cow, as long as they get some water.

01:06:26.853 --> 01:06:37.893
And if you bring in Florida cattle or Kentucky cattle and, and you bring them in before, I like, I don't like to bring them in any later than late August.

01:06:38.114 --> 01:06:38.474
Okay.

01:06:38.724 --> 01:06:42.684
You get along pretty good because they get acclimated to the weather as a fault.

01:06:42.824 --> 01:06:49.574
But if you bring in cattle in October and stuff, one of a lot of people like to, because that's when the corn's harvested now.

01:06:49.574 --> 01:06:49.994
Right.

01:06:49.994 --> 01:06:51.563
Cheap food coming in.

01:06:51.574 --> 01:06:52.023
Thank you.

01:06:52.398 --> 01:07:03.188
And, um, then, then, uh, yeah, the Florida cows don't like the Colorado November rough winter, especially if they come out of 90 degree and they get off the truck and it's zero.

01:07:03.219 --> 01:07:07.849
That's what my buddy always talks about, uh, recruiting for the football team at university of Wyoming.

01:07:08.449 --> 01:07:13.039
They get all these fresh college graduates to come visit in June and July.

01:07:13.188 --> 01:07:13.789
It's pretty nice.

01:07:13.789 --> 01:07:28.849
And Laramie in June and July, and then they get there in late August and it's kind of Pretty okay for a few weeks and then come November all these large black men from Florida that they bust up are like, what the hell did I sign up for?

01:07:29.409 --> 01:07:42.329
I still have nightmares about a bunch of Florida cattle that we brought in that it was late in the in the fall season and They went through a snowstorm on the way up, and literally half of them off the truck were sick.

01:07:42.358 --> 01:07:46.608
And there's, there's like a hundred, a hundred calves on a truck when they were small.

01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:48.889
We think we brought in three or four loads.

01:07:50.059 --> 01:07:50.579
Shit, we started.

01:07:50.579 --> 01:07:52.579
So you got two hundred sick cows.

01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:53.798
It's more like five hundred.

01:07:53.838 --> 01:07:54.188
Wow.

01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:55.059
With three loads.

01:07:55.534 --> 01:07:57.373
Well, I don't know if it was that quite that many.

01:07:57.373 --> 01:07:58.264
It seemed like that many.

01:07:58.333 --> 01:08:06.543
Because when you have to run each one through the chute and check and temp and treat each one as they're walking in, because they're all sick, it makes for a really long three or four days.

01:08:06.543 --> 01:08:13.103
Four in the morning and ten But anyway, before you go, I gotta say Larimer, Wyoming.

01:08:13.143 --> 01:08:14.733
Don't you come from South Dakota?

01:08:14.773 --> 01:08:15.643
I'm from North Dakota.

01:08:15.643 --> 01:08:16.173
North Dakota?

01:08:16.173 --> 01:08:17.594
Oh, it's even colder up there.

01:08:17.604 --> 01:08:19.094
That's a vacation in Larimer.

01:08:19.144 --> 01:08:23.413
Yeah, but nobody's fooling anybody that North Dakota isn't going to be cold when you get up there for football season.

01:08:23.923 --> 01:08:25.533
Plus they got the Fargo Dome up there.

01:08:25.543 --> 01:08:25.804
Yeah.

01:08:26.283 --> 01:08:28.113
It's tropical here compared to North Dakota.

01:08:28.554 --> 01:08:29.054
It's the truth.

01:08:30.073 --> 01:08:37.514
Um, by the way, when you're treating cows, like you're, Are you just, like, giving them a, an antibiotic or something, potentially?

01:08:37.514 --> 01:08:38.724
It depends on what's wrong with them.

01:08:38.753 --> 01:08:39.104
Yeah.

01:08:39.224 --> 01:08:42.194
Um, it's symptoms based, and you check their temperature.

01:08:42.463 --> 01:08:44.444
It's basically the same as treating a human being.

01:08:44.514 --> 01:08:44.814
Right.

01:08:44.823 --> 01:08:47.073
Um, it depends on what's, what's the issue.

01:08:47.283 --> 01:08:47.493
Yeah.

01:08:47.533 --> 01:08:51.543
Um, with that particular scenario was, they came from the south.

01:08:51.793 --> 01:08:58.634
They went through a major snowstorm on the drive up, late in the fall, and they all came off had a bug and then everybody got a bug.

01:08:58.684 --> 01:09:00.333
Yep, they all came off with a temperature.

01:09:00.564 --> 01:09:06.363
And they got a similar treatment of with, you had the flu with the temperature if you went to the doctor.

01:09:06.404 --> 01:09:07.323
Same type of medicine.

01:09:07.463 --> 01:09:07.734
Okay.

01:09:07.734 --> 01:09:09.484
Yeah, I don't think it was actually an antibiotic.

01:09:09.493 --> 01:09:12.104
So it was more of a getting rid of congestion kind of thing.

01:09:12.184 --> 01:09:13.713
Lowering a temperature and fever.

01:09:13.793 --> 01:09:14.113
Right.

01:09:14.434 --> 01:09:14.734
Yep.

01:09:14.963 --> 01:09:20.234
Just like cattle are very similar to humans, that if they don't find a way to break the fever, a fever can kill them.

01:09:20.234 --> 01:09:20.283
Yep.

01:09:20.514 --> 01:09:20.844
Right.

01:09:21.094 --> 01:09:23.134
And they're still outside in the elements too.

01:09:23.203 --> 01:09:23.644
Right.

01:09:23.644 --> 01:09:25.404
Do cows sweat?

01:09:25.844 --> 01:09:26.113
Oh yeah.

01:09:26.113 --> 01:09:26.573
Oh yeah.

01:09:26.613 --> 01:09:26.963
Okay.

01:09:27.243 --> 01:09:28.083
Way more than humans do.

01:09:28.104 --> 01:09:29.573
I know dogs don't really sweat.

01:09:29.573 --> 01:09:29.963
So I thought.

01:09:29.993 --> 01:09:32.073
Ever heard the expression sweating like a pig?

01:09:32.304 --> 01:09:32.713
Sure.

01:09:32.974 --> 01:09:33.823
Pigs don't sweat.

01:09:33.823 --> 01:09:34.203
That's weird.

01:09:34.203 --> 01:09:34.963
That's what I thought.

01:09:34.963 --> 01:09:35.224
Yeah.

01:09:35.344 --> 01:09:36.524
That's why they make mud holes.

01:09:38.413 --> 01:09:39.524
But cattle sweat a lot.

01:09:39.774 --> 01:09:41.613
And in the winter if they're sweating.

01:09:41.654 --> 01:09:41.974
Right.

01:09:41.984 --> 01:09:42.993
It's cold and they have a fever.

01:09:43.014 --> 01:09:44.014
Yeah, it's way below.

01:09:44.014 --> 01:09:44.863
The sweat freezes and then they die.

01:09:44.863 --> 01:09:45.524
Yeah, that's rough.

01:09:46.604 --> 01:09:51.264
So you'd have gone on to vet school instead if you guys wouldn't have changed track there.

01:09:51.323 --> 01:09:52.194
I wouldn't say that.

01:09:52.194 --> 01:09:54.134
I could, I could check somebody's cattle for them.

01:09:54.134 --> 01:09:55.578
I wouldn't be a vet.

01:09:55.578 --> 01:09:57.423
I'm not a vet.

01:09:57.423 --> 01:10:00.764
It's easier to see a sick animal than it is to know what to do for it.

01:10:00.854 --> 01:10:01.213
Fair enough.

01:10:01.623 --> 01:10:02.003
All right.

01:10:02.253 --> 01:10:09.234
And when we knew the basic stuff, you know, fevers, cold, snotty nose, hanging head, ear drooping, those kind of things.

01:10:09.604 --> 01:10:11.439
But there's stuff vets do that we don't know.

01:10:12.069 --> 01:10:12.998
Oh yeah, sure.

01:10:13.009 --> 01:10:13.399
Come out.

01:10:13.458 --> 01:10:13.979
Yeah, yeah.

01:10:14.259 --> 01:10:19.248
Well, and how, how big it was your feedlot then, like at full capacity?

01:10:19.559 --> 01:10:20.719
About 4, 000?

01:10:20.719 --> 01:10:28.614
Well, that was in the winter, but we, we could feed about 2, 500 and we had 1, 500 or 2, 000 out in stock.

01:10:28.614 --> 01:10:29.810
So, yeah.

01:10:29.810 --> 01:10:30.408
Okay.

01:10:30.408 --> 01:10:30.689
Usually.

01:10:30.689 --> 01:10:32.498
So that's pretty, pretty sizable, right?

01:10:33.448 --> 01:10:37.908
But it takes a couple hundred acres to have all that, especially if you've got a place to walk in them?

01:10:38.658 --> 01:10:41.019
Um, no, not that many acres.

01:10:41.019 --> 01:10:41.198
No?

01:10:41.198 --> 01:10:41.298
No.

01:10:41.389 --> 01:10:41.408
Yeah.

01:10:41.418 --> 01:10:41.698
Okay.

01:10:42.328 --> 01:10:42.679
I don't know.

01:10:43.009 --> 01:10:43.298
I don't know.

01:10:43.298 --> 01:10:43.788
Maybe.

01:10:43.788 --> 01:10:43.934
Maybe.

01:10:43.934 --> 01:10:49.203
Nobody feeds cattle in North Dakota because it's just too cold.

01:10:49.634 --> 01:10:51.734
They spend all their calories shivering.

01:10:52.033 --> 01:10:52.404
Yep.

01:10:52.404 --> 01:10:56.144
They, uh, when they do, it's, they're fed indoors.

01:10:56.173 --> 01:10:57.264
Right, yeah, exactly.

01:10:58.224 --> 01:11:10.854
So, um, what would you have folks know about, uh, Like cattle now, do you guys still eat GMO beef or do you only eat like organic fed cattle, grass fed and stuff?

01:11:11.073 --> 01:11:15.613
We, we try really hard to, but you know, sometimes it's just not available.

01:11:16.134 --> 01:11:25.064
And so I'd be lying if I said we were 100%, but I would say this, um, have you ever known anybody that drinks one beer a week?

01:11:25.128 --> 01:11:33.849
Well, I have, and if somebody drinks one beer a week, he'd probably be fine forever.

01:11:33.849 --> 01:11:34.578
Fine forever.

01:11:34.649 --> 01:11:34.918
Yeah.

01:11:34.969 --> 01:11:42.838
But if you, if his neighbor is drinking 30 beers a day, he's not doing so well, right?

01:11:43.328 --> 01:11:43.618
True.

01:11:43.868 --> 01:11:49.019
And so my point is, You know if if you're not flooding minimize your input with that.

01:11:49.029 --> 01:12:00.618
Thank you Yeah, try to try to cut it back as much as you can and we talked about the antibiotics in that Illness or that infection that wouldn't heal do you or is there evidence that supports like?

01:12:00.838 --> 01:12:04.149
Antibiotic carryover from beef and pork into humans.

01:12:04.149 --> 01:12:05.208
Like are we building up?

01:12:05.219 --> 01:12:12.453
Yeah, absolutely our own resistance to That's why antibiotic resistant infections exist.

01:12:12.613 --> 01:12:13.764
That's where MRSA came from.

01:12:13.953 --> 01:12:14.354
Right.

01:12:14.703 --> 01:12:15.003
Mm hmm.

01:12:15.064 --> 01:12:28.493
And so, the reason cattle is less is because most, um, livestock operators that have cattle do what we did, and I'm not saying it was right, but they, they see a sick one and they go treat it.

01:12:29.134 --> 01:12:44.713
Um, whereas pigs and chickens and stuff, turkeys, they, they actually perform better because they're always, you know, domesticated turkeys can, and pigs couldn't even live out on their own anymore.

01:12:44.724 --> 01:12:47.613
They've been so, so, you know, well, I don't know.

01:12:47.913 --> 01:12:49.984
Changed by science.

01:12:49.984 --> 01:12:50.984
Breeding and yeah.

01:12:51.073 --> 01:12:51.354
Right.

01:12:51.394 --> 01:12:54.923
And so, uh, I'm not trying to throw these guys under the bus, but those.

01:12:55.418 --> 01:13:10.458
Those animals, um, you know, if you're a conventional feeder, you either change your program completely or you got to do it to compete because the cost of gain is, is, you know, you're, you're in the banking business.

01:13:10.458 --> 01:13:19.779
Well, like I know, uh, chickens like meat bird chickens, they grow so fast and would get so big if not harvested that they're like leg bones would break.

01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:25.269
Yeah, because they're just, their bones haven't caught up with the rest of their physiology.

01:13:25.269 --> 01:13:29.088
They can't physically, like, strap that much weight on and live for a long time.

01:13:29.238 --> 01:13:35.149
And I know there's that mass, um, vaccination and antibiotic use.

01:13:35.189 --> 01:13:36.578
Antibiotic use is the big one.

01:13:36.969 --> 01:13:40.538
It used to be very common practice to just mix it in the feet of birds.

01:13:40.698 --> 01:13:40.788
It still is.

01:13:40.788 --> 01:13:43.819
They don't let you, they don't, I thought they didn't let you do that anymore.

01:13:43.868 --> 01:13:44.939
Oh no, they still do it.

01:13:46.259 --> 01:13:58.694
Yeah, that's interesting, uh, so, If they, if you were to test it, um, for some weird reason with birds particularly, just putting the antibiotics right in the feed, all of those birds gain weight quicker.

01:13:59.823 --> 01:14:00.923
They stay healthy.

01:14:01.243 --> 01:14:01.564
Right.

01:14:01.623 --> 01:14:08.154
Yeah, I don't know if it's, it's something weird of just also they, even the ones that never get sick, they gain weight faster.

01:14:08.154 --> 01:14:09.503
Huh, that's fascinating.

01:14:09.503 --> 01:14:15.168
Like you were saying, cost of production, it's just the Like there's some kind of a bacterial load that Oh, I don't know what that is.

01:14:15.168 --> 01:14:18.298
In a natural situation kind of cuts away at their game probably.

01:14:18.378 --> 01:14:19.439
That's exactly right.

01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:22.998
Part of their food stock is going to some kind of a gut bag or whatever.

01:14:23.259 --> 01:14:30.649
Yeah, because you judge the pin of chickens by the total performance, not just the healthy ones.

01:14:30.798 --> 01:14:31.189
Right, right.

01:14:31.189 --> 01:14:34.908
So the sick ones drag down the performance average of the whole pin.

01:14:34.918 --> 01:14:40.588
So from your perspective, eating, um, conventionally raised beef is probably less.

01:14:41.238 --> 01:14:45.368
Gross, kind of than birds, turkey, chickens, pork even.

01:14:46.038 --> 01:14:48.179
It still has hormones and stuff like that.

01:14:48.609 --> 01:14:50.019
Yeah, I would say that's true.

01:14:50.819 --> 01:14:53.529
But, you know, it's interesting.

01:14:53.538 --> 01:14:54.838
Animals are interesting.

01:14:54.838 --> 01:15:00.333
It takes, it takes like a little over a pound and a half of feed to put on a pound of meat.

01:15:00.814 --> 01:15:02.134
Of chicken, right?

01:15:02.373 --> 01:15:07.144
And the hog's like three pounds of feed and the steer's like 5.8 pounds of feed.

01:15:07.144 --> 01:15:11.613
And so if you ever heifer's probably eight pounds of feed or something, um, or more.

01:15:11.618 --> 01:15:15.694
Anyway, seven a a heifer is definitely a higher, takes more feed.

01:15:15.694 --> 01:15:15.904
Yeah.

01:15:15.904 --> 01:15:16.279
You steer.

01:15:17.753 --> 01:15:18.314
That's interesting.

01:15:18.793 --> 01:15:22.264
I'm more stickler about fruits and vegetables than me.

01:15:22.293 --> 01:15:29.054
I mean, I don't do, I would do personally, I do less antibiotic and, or you do free range chicken.

01:15:29.064 --> 01:15:34.144
If I eat chicken, more of a beef guy, same, but fruits and vegetables are the ones for me.

01:15:34.394 --> 01:15:37.644
Um, do you buy organic fruits and vegetables that you're saying?

01:15:37.673 --> 01:15:37.963
Yeah.

01:15:37.963 --> 01:15:39.344
That's where I would spend the money.

01:15:39.344 --> 01:15:51.863
If I'm really going to go hardcore organic personally, just from a logic Uh, fruits and vegetables are, are soft, uh, on the outside, they're soft skinned, so they're very highly absorbative.

01:15:52.073 --> 01:15:52.434
Right.

01:15:52.503 --> 01:15:55.003
And, and your traditional ones are sprayed a lot.

01:15:55.804 --> 01:16:01.274
And anything they're sprayed with when they're that, that type of plant, they, it's going to absorb it and keep it.

01:16:01.713 --> 01:16:06.944
But there aren't too many that are like the Roundup Ready style yet, right?

01:16:06.953 --> 01:16:08.444
Like the glyphosate isn't.

01:16:08.583 --> 01:16:11.484
No, there's only 13 crops that are glyphosate.

01:16:11.564 --> 01:16:11.774
Yeah.

01:16:12.904 --> 01:16:13.573
Oh, was there that many?

01:16:13.604 --> 01:16:14.833
I didn't realize it was so many.

01:16:15.083 --> 01:16:15.934
Yeah, well.

01:16:15.963 --> 01:16:18.373
But they're mostly like, corn, soybean.

01:16:18.753 --> 01:16:19.054
Right.

01:16:19.073 --> 01:16:21.283
And most fruits and vegetables aren't Roundup Ready.

01:16:21.344 --> 01:16:21.764
Right.

01:16:22.194 --> 01:16:31.094
Well, and like, they don't really make Roundup Ready wheat, but it still gets sprayed with a lot of Roundup, because when they're trying to kill it, what do they call that, D something?

01:16:31.493 --> 01:16:33.583
You mean, uh, did you say wheat?

01:16:33.654 --> 01:16:34.363
Wheat, yeah.

01:16:34.533 --> 01:16:36.863
Oh, no, they have Roundup Ready wheat.

01:16:37.328 --> 01:16:37.679
Do they?

01:16:38.118 --> 01:16:43.338
Oh, I didn't know that existed yet, but they also just use Roundup straight up to kill the wheat, too.

01:16:43.894 --> 01:16:45.064
So it all ripens at the same time.

01:16:45.073 --> 01:16:47.203
Yeah, you guys have raised spring wheat up in Dakotas.

01:16:47.213 --> 01:16:48.134
Yeah, that's what we do.

01:16:49.203 --> 01:16:55.594
Sometimes they use Paraquat, but out in our part of the country, the wheat turns in July.

01:16:55.713 --> 01:16:58.684
Oh, right, so there's no reason to push it hard that way.

01:16:58.713 --> 01:16:59.113
Got it.

01:16:59.184 --> 01:16:59.734
Makes sense.

01:17:00.203 --> 01:17:05.359
Um, Well, I feel like we know quite a bit more about the oil business.

01:17:05.368 --> 01:17:10.918
We're gonna jump into our Faith Family Politics segment, uh, here after a short break.

01:17:10.918 --> 01:17:14.269
But, um, I guess one more question for each of you.

01:17:14.859 --> 01:17:30.043
What is, in speaking strictly from business, uh, what is your, And what is your biggest gap area in the, in the, how, how business works for you as far as, you know, as a team?

01:17:30.043 --> 01:17:32.533
Is it, I know that Dwayne is an idea generator.

01:17:32.533 --> 01:17:34.783
Sounds like Chad has lots of them of his own.

01:17:35.734 --> 01:17:37.743
Uh, what would you say your superpower is, Chad?

01:17:38.338 --> 01:17:38.819
Mine?

01:17:38.918 --> 01:17:39.578
Um.

01:17:39.588 --> 01:17:40.139
Yeah, if you have one.

01:17:40.269 --> 01:17:41.609
We kind of have similar ones.

01:17:42.599 --> 01:17:43.859
We're too stupid to give up.

01:17:43.988 --> 01:17:44.588
That's a big one.

01:17:44.878 --> 01:17:45.069
Perseverance.

01:17:45.069 --> 01:17:46.021
Yeah, yeah.

01:17:46.021 --> 01:17:47.078
I don't know.

01:17:47.118 --> 01:17:48.838
Especially if people tell us we should.

01:17:48.849 --> 01:17:51.889
Then we're like Fair.

01:17:52.128 --> 01:17:52.179
Okay.

01:17:53.198 --> 01:17:57.844
And then, uh, we're also very Open to change.

01:17:57.944 --> 01:17:58.203
Hmm.

01:17:58.333 --> 01:17:58.583
Yeah.

01:17:58.913 --> 01:18:03.234
Strangely, uh, for the type of people that we probably sound like.

01:18:03.293 --> 01:18:03.543
Yeah.

01:18:03.554 --> 01:18:04.894
We're very open to change.

01:18:04.953 --> 01:18:06.753
Um, in fact, sort of welcome it.

01:18:06.913 --> 01:18:07.123
Yeah.

01:18:07.163 --> 01:18:08.354
I wasn't always that way.

01:18:08.804 --> 01:18:14.434
Being when I was younger and hot tempered, but, but we both are like, you know what?

01:18:14.434 --> 01:18:15.373
Change is good thing.

01:18:15.514 --> 01:18:15.724
Yeah.

01:18:15.734 --> 01:18:17.753
You gotta be on top of things.

01:18:17.753 --> 01:18:22.844
And if you're not changing, you're, you're not on the top of the game and figuring out what's next.

01:18:22.854 --> 01:18:23.373
Fair enough.

01:18:24.104 --> 01:18:25.634
Dwayne, how about, how about you?

01:18:25.634 --> 01:18:27.134
Where would you self evaluate there?

01:18:27.224 --> 01:18:27.753
Um.

01:18:28.458 --> 01:18:36.788
I think that we are extremely good, and this is recently, but extremely good at putting together a team.

01:18:37.198 --> 01:18:40.319
I mean, I am so very proud of our team.

01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:43.338
I mean, everybody busts butt, we have fun.

01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.389
They understand their jobs, they like working there.

01:18:45.578 --> 01:18:50.588
And organization, you know, the actual production part, we kill it.

01:18:50.798 --> 01:18:51.029
Yeah.

01:18:51.248 --> 01:18:54.229
Our weakness is definitely, um, marketing.

01:18:55.064 --> 01:18:55.774
And you're working on that.

01:18:55.993 --> 01:18:56.434
We are.

01:18:56.823 --> 01:18:58.024
So, cool.

01:18:58.384 --> 01:19:03.203
Well, let's, uh, let's do a short break, and then we'll come right back and talk more about our other topics.

01:19:03.203 --> 01:19:03.684
Sounds good.

01:19:47.496 --> 01:19:53.095
So let's, uh, let's go ahead and come back from the break, uh, faith, family, politics.

01:19:53.095 --> 01:19:55.475
We always talk about all three of those.

01:19:55.815 --> 01:19:59.036
And before I get there though, I chat, I, I'm remiss.

01:19:59.036 --> 01:20:02.725
I, I always offer our guests, uh, joint if they want one.

01:20:02.756 --> 01:20:04.055
Uh, I don't smoke.

01:20:04.055 --> 01:20:04.576
It's 420.

01:20:04.636 --> 01:20:04.966
No.

01:20:05.046 --> 01:20:06.166
No, it's been like eight weeks now.

01:20:06.445 --> 01:20:09.355
That joint's been sitting there getting dry for two months.

01:20:09.605 --> 01:20:11.086
I haven't smoked in a lot of years.

01:20:11.126 --> 01:20:11.386
Yeah.

01:20:11.426 --> 01:20:11.636
Yep.

01:20:11.725 --> 01:20:12.246
I uh.

01:20:12.265 --> 01:20:12.786
That's awesome.

01:20:13.886 --> 01:20:14.945
Dwayne's like, I didn't know that.

01:20:14.945 --> 01:20:16.735
I mean, you didn't offer it to me?

01:20:17.416 --> 01:20:18.586
Well, I just kind of assumed no offense.

01:20:18.586 --> 01:20:19.225
You'd know better.

01:20:19.275 --> 01:20:21.345
But, but I know you're the designated driver too, Dwayne.

01:20:21.485 --> 01:20:23.115
That's why me and Chad are drinking the bourbon.

01:20:23.555 --> 01:20:23.886
Yep.

01:20:24.456 --> 01:20:24.826
It's true.

01:20:25.386 --> 01:20:26.515
So, uh.

01:20:28.140 --> 01:20:28.440
Why?

01:20:29.440 --> 01:20:32.280
Uh, well, I used to smoke in my twenties quite a bit.

01:20:32.301 --> 01:20:38.220
And long story short, I've always had really bad allergies, especially skin allergies.

01:20:38.831 --> 01:20:40.591
Um, and for years it never bothered me.

01:20:41.070 --> 01:21:08.445
And then it started to yeah, and I couldn't figure out what it was and finally went and had an allergy test And they told me I have a minor THC allergy I've said that to so many people in Colorado and they're like you're you're you're a liar Tell the hives on my body after two or three days that I'm a liar whatever Yeah, so if I were I probably could get away with A few puffs here and there, but if I were to smoke like two or three days in a row I'm gonna have hives everywhere.

01:21:08.445 --> 01:21:08.706
No shit.

01:21:08.735 --> 01:21:09.336
And it's just, yeah.

01:21:09.336 --> 01:21:10.246
Yeah, not worth it.

01:21:10.286 --> 01:21:18.985
And now that I have no tolerance, I've, here and there, maybe like once a year, have some and like, I feel like I took melatonin for three days.

01:21:19.065 --> 01:21:21.270
Like it just messes with my, I feel groggy.

01:21:21.270 --> 01:21:23.243
Interesting, your sleep cycles and stuff like that.

01:21:23.243 --> 01:21:34.530
I think actually I was just reflecting, it might be, Like, October was when Chiba Hut's CEO came on and he's a one hitter quitter, but he did smoke with me a little bit, and uh, so it might, that might be it.

01:21:34.921 --> 01:21:36.740
That joint might be sitting around since October.

01:21:36.740 --> 01:21:41.820
I should probably, I should probably smoke that one and re roll one because it's probably pretty dry.

01:21:41.900 --> 01:21:42.970
People look at me weird.

01:21:42.970 --> 01:21:48.270
I'm a millennial and a Colorado native and I'm like, I don't smoke and they're like, where are you really from?

01:21:48.270 --> 01:21:50.570
No.

01:21:50.570 --> 01:21:54.841
Um, well, can we, uh, I would say that's a political topic.

01:21:54.841 --> 01:21:56.051
Can we start with politics?

01:21:56.331 --> 01:21:56.740
Sure.

01:21:56.820 --> 01:22:02.631
What, uh, where do you guys, uh, who's your candidate for the fall?

01:22:03.150 --> 01:22:03.671
Hmm.

01:22:03.685 --> 01:22:07.525
I like RFK.

01:22:07.525 --> 01:22:07.756
Sweet.

01:22:07.796 --> 01:22:09.216
I'm a big Kennedy guy.

01:22:11.341 --> 01:22:24.600
I'm not a big fan of the bipartisan system or the red or blue or I feel like bought and paid for a lobbyist puppet is the same whether it's red tie or blue tie, you're bought and paid for it.

01:22:24.661 --> 01:22:27.631
It's, I've never been a big fan of either side.

01:22:27.860 --> 01:22:35.381
Um, I think there's been points of both sides that I like, but I think there's also the whole, they're both huge pandering.

01:22:35.390 --> 01:22:38.570
They say what they need to say to get elected and that's why I like RFK.

01:22:38.631 --> 01:22:40.610
I think he's made some smart points.

01:22:42.296 --> 01:22:47.445
But if I had to choose between red and blue, between Biden and Trump, I'd probably lean Trump.

01:22:47.905 --> 01:22:48.095
Yeah.

01:22:48.155 --> 01:22:50.756
He can speak in complete sentences, I don't know.

01:22:51.315 --> 01:22:55.855
But not because of I Orange man bad versus where is my slippers.

01:22:55.905 --> 01:22:56.355
Yeah.

01:22:57.065 --> 01:22:58.136
That's exactly right.

01:22:58.136 --> 01:23:01.195
And it's not like I love or hate either one of them.

01:23:01.195 --> 01:23:02.786
It's just that's kind of where I would lean.

01:23:03.006 --> 01:23:03.195
Yeah.

01:23:03.195 --> 01:23:04.345
I definitely like RFK.

01:23:04.405 --> 01:23:09.725
I like RFK's willingness to talk to every topic in long form conversations.

01:23:09.746 --> 01:23:09.956
Yeah.

01:23:10.381 --> 01:23:14.850
You know, I think that, uh, shows he actually has a grasp of the material.

01:23:14.940 --> 01:23:15.780
I think he's brave.

01:23:16.541 --> 01:23:17.780
You think he's gonna get assassinated?

01:23:18.220 --> 01:23:24.871
I mean, JFK got assassinated, arguably, because he was going against the establishment.

01:23:24.871 --> 01:23:25.150
Right.

01:23:25.171 --> 01:23:26.511
And that's what RFK's trying to do.

01:23:26.511 --> 01:23:27.890
Well, and Bobby K, too.

01:23:27.970 --> 01:23:28.430
Yeah, yeah.

01:23:28.511 --> 01:23:30.600
Um, So, who knows?

01:23:31.060 --> 01:23:37.831
I think it's shocking he has such a large poll currently and he hasn't been designated Secret Service yet.

01:23:37.881 --> 01:23:38.230
Right.

01:23:38.240 --> 01:23:39.595
I think that's a little surprising.

01:23:39.595 --> 01:23:40.131
It's ridiculous.

01:23:40.131 --> 01:23:41.740
And he's had multiple death threats.

01:23:41.740 --> 01:23:41.850
Yeah.

01:23:41.921 --> 01:23:43.081
Probably tens of thousands.

01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:43.770
Right.

01:23:44.100 --> 01:23:44.541
I don't know.

01:23:46.490 --> 01:23:47.921
No, it's pretty crazy, honestly.

01:23:47.921 --> 01:23:52.438
Usually any major candidate, as soon as they announce that they're running, they get Secret Service protection.

01:23:52.438 --> 01:23:52.783
Yeah.

01:23:52.783 --> 01:23:53.751
Barack Obama.

01:23:53.761 --> 01:23:53.780
Yeah.

01:23:53.791 --> 01:23:54.820
Well, Barack Obama was pretty crazy.

01:23:54.961 --> 01:23:58.150
chosen by whoever runs the world to be the next president though.

01:23:58.150 --> 01:23:59.451
So, yeah.

01:24:02.240 --> 01:24:04.140
Dwayne, what's, uh, where do you politics lie?

01:24:04.610 --> 01:24:11.881
Uh, probably I'm, I'm registered as an independent, but I tend to vote more conservative at the time.

01:24:13.011 --> 01:24:17.270
Proper, uh, libertarian kind of leaning conservative type.

01:24:17.461 --> 01:24:17.661
Yeah.

01:24:17.661 --> 01:24:23.650
I am definitely probably shouldn't admit that I'm probably pretty libertarian.

01:24:23.650 --> 01:24:39.095
I, I don't like laws, I don't like, I don't like, uh, you know, I don't like all the people do, don't do stuff because it's, you know, it seems like somewhere along the line, we've lost values, you don't do things because it's not the right thing to do.

01:24:39.095 --> 01:24:40.786
We have to have a law for everything.

01:24:41.065 --> 01:24:46.905
Well, and that's, I think what I was just going to point out is there's a, uh, there's a organization up here in Northern Colorado.

01:24:46.905 --> 01:24:51.845
You might enjoy it actually, or both of you, it's called the Legacy Project and they do kind of a study on U.

01:24:51.845 --> 01:24:52.015
S.

01:24:52.015 --> 01:24:52.536
history.

01:24:52.956 --> 01:24:57.195
With the intent of kind of like, what is your legacy going to be, young man?

01:24:57.626 --> 01:25:02.265
Um, but the, the definition they have for liberty is freedom plus virtue.

01:25:02.265 --> 01:25:02.921
Hmm.

01:25:03.780 --> 01:25:10.740
Um, you know, the freedom is great, no laws is great, but it does have to be of a virtuous people.

01:25:10.740 --> 01:25:19.280
If it's freedom to do whatever the hell you want and all rules are equally valid, uh, then it's just not going to work.

01:25:19.280 --> 01:25:26.001
So I think that's what I hear you saying is freedom combined with some virtuous intent is, is useful.

01:25:26.161 --> 01:25:28.430
Yeah, we, we obviously have to have some laws.

01:25:28.430 --> 01:25:36.845
I mean, I went to the Dominican Republic, and you could smell the towns before you get to them, and I thought, okay, that littering law maybe is okay, you know what I'm saying?

01:25:36.855 --> 01:25:37.765
Right, right.

01:25:38.265 --> 01:25:47.631
Well, and that littering law follows, though, with, uh, libertarianism, because they're harming, uh, Somebody else, you know, uh, it's freedom plus virtue.

01:25:48.201 --> 01:25:48.421
Yeah.

01:25:48.421 --> 01:25:50.511
It's, it's hard with libertarian sometimes.

01:25:50.541 --> 01:25:53.940
Cause there's, there's some wackadoos in that one.

01:25:55.480 --> 01:26:03.421
I would also say I'm more libertarian, but I've, I've listened to a few of the major speakers talk before and I'm like, yeah, you're a little left field.

01:26:03.421 --> 01:26:05.775
That's a little far out there.

01:26:05.775 --> 01:26:07.161
On both sides.

01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:11.970
Do you think, uh, do you think Biden will be the candidate come fall?

01:26:14.081 --> 01:26:15.990
Like, it seems like it, but it just feels like.

01:26:16.695 --> 01:26:23.365
How can we really live in that world where they put, like, do we run him for president or do we put him in a home?

01:26:24.765 --> 01:26:28.996
Well, but is there, is there anybody else even in the picture?

01:26:29.025 --> 01:26:36.855
No, I mean, but that's what it seems so shocking is, like, I think the Democratic Party actually realizes at this point that Biden probably can't win.

01:26:37.206 --> 01:26:40.775
Especially with RFK pulling the kind of numbers that he's pulling.

01:26:41.405 --> 01:26:45.855
And so I keep expecting like some kind of an extra constitutional substitution.

01:26:46.211 --> 01:26:54.900
Late inning substitution for Michelle or I don't know interesting Gavin I feels like Gavin's still running for president.

01:26:55.171 --> 01:26:55.970
Is he or not?

01:26:55.970 --> 01:26:56.261
I don't know.

01:26:56.261 --> 01:27:01.201
Maybe he's just running for 2028 president Who else do they have right now?

01:27:01.850 --> 01:27:04.020
Yeah, I don't have a major player.

01:27:04.341 --> 01:27:06.530
They put all their cards in that a long time ago.

01:27:06.530 --> 01:27:13.270
I feel like I guess yeah And, I don't know, I feel like they just are accepting a loss already.

01:27:14.791 --> 01:27:18.020
I was wrong about the last one, so who knows, what do I know?

01:27:18.020 --> 01:27:23.055
Do you think, uh, do you think RFK is gonna Realistic chance to make a play on it.

01:27:24.845 --> 01:27:25.775
I have no idea.

01:27:25.996 --> 01:27:28.796
Yeah, I really don't You're like me.

01:27:29.775 --> 01:27:37.265
I'm willing to I'm willing to give him my vote just to get from ten point zero percent to ten point zero Zero zero zero zero one percent.

01:27:37.496 --> 01:27:44.345
You got some some kind of an attack on the duopoly system And also I sleep just fine knowing that I did that.

01:27:44.345 --> 01:27:49.666
I'm a big I'm just really against bipartisan Independent thinker.

01:27:49.666 --> 01:27:52.536
Yeah, I've never voted for You One of the major party candidates.

01:27:53.015 --> 01:27:55.246
The whole ideology I was Perot from the start.

01:27:55.286 --> 01:27:56.555
That was my 18 year old vote.

01:27:56.555 --> 01:27:59.305
And I was, Kanye was what I voted last election.

01:27:59.506 --> 01:28:00.905
I mean, that's the funny vote for sure.

01:28:00.905 --> 01:28:02.886
I stand by it.

01:28:05.216 --> 01:28:09.336
Even after all of his anti Semitism rants and he was off his meds and stuff.

01:28:09.386 --> 01:28:11.475
But, I still think he would be better than Biden.

01:28:11.565 --> 01:28:11.935
I don't know.

01:28:13.836 --> 01:28:14.426
It's debatable.

01:28:14.695 --> 01:28:14.945
Yeah.

01:28:17.746 --> 01:28:18.836
Anyway, I digress.

01:28:18.836 --> 01:28:20.216
I'm probably going to get some haters out there.

01:28:20.216 --> 01:28:21.475
You love that anti Semite?

01:28:21.475 --> 01:28:22.435
No, I don't.

01:28:23.216 --> 01:28:25.426
Not that view, but I do stand by my vote.

01:28:26.076 --> 01:28:26.485
Yeah.

01:28:27.426 --> 01:28:28.376
Uh, I don't know.

01:28:28.855 --> 01:28:31.466
I just don't think How can we have a two party system?

01:28:32.345 --> 01:28:36.055
Hundreds of millions of people that live in the country, it just doesn't make any sense.

01:28:36.055 --> 01:28:47.985
Yeah, you could be this group or this group, and if you disagree with, well, and the thing is, the big thing is, is that the candidates now can't, like you used to have like the blue dog Democrats, right?

01:28:47.985 --> 01:28:55.126
Which were kind of more conservative fiscally, they were generally, um, anti abortion, you know?

01:28:55.126 --> 01:29:00.055
And so it was this block of like 30 percent of the Democrats that were not of the mainstream.

01:29:00.631 --> 01:29:05.331
But nobody that thinks like that is allowed to be in the Democratic Party for long now.

01:29:05.381 --> 01:29:06.650
That must have been before I was elected.

01:29:06.661 --> 01:29:07.751
Yeah, that's old times.

01:29:08.060 --> 01:29:09.060
I was going to say, I don't remember any of that.

01:29:09.060 --> 01:29:19.761
If you go back 60, 70 years ago, the, uh, the liberals back then probably aren't as liberal as the Republicans are now.

01:29:19.860 --> 01:29:20.341
Oh.

01:29:20.511 --> 01:29:20.890
Right.

01:29:20.890 --> 01:29:21.615
Totally.

01:29:21.615 --> 01:29:26.140
And the Republicans are Way more liberal than the liberal.

01:29:26.270 --> 01:29:32.220
So it was, you know, which There's a lot more liberal people on both sides of them.

01:29:32.310 --> 01:29:35.761
What was the year that Bill Clinton's was that was that 92 96?

01:29:36.100 --> 01:29:37.220
Yeah, I think that sounds right.

01:29:37.661 --> 01:29:51.520
I watched a clip the other day of his inaugural I think it was 96 and his talking points were the exact same as Trump's in 2016 border control and it was like Spot for spot.

01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:54.341
I was like, man, that was a pretty hard flip in 20 years.

01:29:54.350 --> 01:29:55.011
That's right.

01:29:55.011 --> 01:29:55.751
Whatever it was.

01:29:55.751 --> 01:29:57.270
Yeah, that's pretty interesting.

01:29:58.070 --> 01:29:59.091
It is interesting.

01:29:59.091 --> 01:30:01.320
He, you know, he was impeached.

01:30:02.140 --> 01:30:02.711
Yeah.

01:30:03.810 --> 01:30:08.171
For, and the thing he was impeached for was probably one of the best things that any president ever did.

01:30:08.171 --> 01:30:13.240
He loaned all that money to Mexico and they paid it back in two and a half years and it helped both economies immensely.

01:30:13.421 --> 01:30:14.251
Yeah, it was excellent.

01:30:14.530 --> 01:30:16.631
I hate to say it, but he was pretty, pretty good.

01:30:16.690 --> 01:30:18.430
You think Obama was impeached for that?

01:30:18.551 --> 01:30:18.761
No.

01:30:18.761 --> 01:30:19.121
Clinton.

01:30:19.331 --> 01:30:19.720
Oh, Clinton.

01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:20.230
I, that's what I meant.

01:30:20.230 --> 01:30:21.900
Clinton, that's what I read.

01:30:21.961 --> 01:30:22.320
I don't know.

01:30:22.320 --> 01:30:25.171
Is that, I thought he was impeached for getting a blowjob or whatever.

01:30:25.411 --> 01:30:26.131
I don't think so.

01:30:26.131 --> 01:30:26.881
For lying about it.

01:30:27.001 --> 01:30:27.871
I don't think so.

01:30:27.876 --> 01:30:28.305
Oh, I don't know.

01:30:28.411 --> 01:30:29.011
I was four.

01:30:29.011 --> 01:30:29.430
I could be wrong.

01:30:30.270 --> 01:30:31.746
I'm gonna just, confession, bow.

01:30:32.610 --> 01:30:35.820
I am not a, a political expert in any way, shape, or form.

01:30:35.940 --> 01:30:39.551
Talk to me about, uh, politics that are important for your business.

01:30:39.551 --> 01:30:42.551
Is there, um, elements of.

01:30:43.155 --> 01:30:52.935
Fair trade, foreign trade, import export, even just, uh, you know, paid leave things in Colorado and stuff that really matter for your business?

01:30:54.015 --> 01:30:59.555
Um, well, our products are all commodities based.

01:30:59.636 --> 01:30:59.956
Right.

01:30:59.996 --> 01:31:02.336
So it's a pretty global trade.

01:31:02.386 --> 01:31:02.786
Right.

01:31:03.490 --> 01:31:12.501
Um, I mean, we do non GMO and chemical free, so it's, it's slightly different than your traditional commodities market, but it's still very related.

01:31:12.570 --> 01:31:13.810
It means nothing in Europe.

01:31:13.940 --> 01:31:16.501
They never, never legalized GMOs in Europe.

01:31:16.501 --> 01:31:18.091
They don't even know what non GMO means.

01:31:18.110 --> 01:31:18.560
Right.

01:31:18.761 --> 01:31:23.770
Um, so in terms of that, it's, there's been weird things that have influenced it.

01:31:23.970 --> 01:31:42.036
Um, Like, you know, a few, a few years back, the government heavily subsidized, um, the, it's, they call it like an, a piece of the new green deal where they're making not renewable diesel from like used cooking oil, but it's called, uh, renewable.

01:31:42.136 --> 01:31:42.855
Oh, the renewable.

01:31:42.855 --> 01:31:51.506
So it's biodiesel is the used, but they started making renewable diesel, which is from fresh cooking oil, not, not used.

01:31:51.506 --> 01:32:01.386
And they subsidized refineries to basically for every gallon that they made a fresh from fresh oil, not used.

01:32:01.636 --> 01:32:03.706
So that heavily influenced the oil market.

01:32:03.706 --> 01:32:10.440
And the, Basically, the government guaranteed a profit of if you buy vegetable oil before it's used.

01:32:10.440 --> 01:32:21.081
And that's, so that influenced it a bit, but I don't know, it's still such a large global market that it's, it's more about the big supply and demand factors.

01:32:21.131 --> 01:32:22.390
It's very fundamental.

01:32:22.480 --> 01:32:26.610
I mean, there's some technical, but I don't know with.

01:32:27.711 --> 01:32:34.240
I don't know what type of political influence there would be in our, like, sourcing and things like that.

01:32:35.060 --> 01:32:43.280
I think there always is, um, things, but my strategy is simply, you know, Be adaptable.

01:32:43.581 --> 01:32:46.171
Yeah, you can decide if it's a problem or an opportunity.

01:32:46.220 --> 01:32:46.511
Right.

01:32:46.511 --> 01:32:48.520
Treat it as an opportunity and go figure it out.

01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:48.953
Fair enough.

01:32:48.953 --> 01:32:50.020
That's what you gotta do, right?

01:32:50.110 --> 01:32:58.470
I mean, there's always small influences, but it's not like, Oh, one day it was 400 percent more because the government did this.

01:32:59.011 --> 01:33:12.831
It's usually more of a, a fundamental global supply and demand, like there's small influences here and there, I would say politically, but most of it's more of a agricultural based.

01:33:13.100 --> 01:33:15.701
Well, for instance, 18 months ago.

01:33:16.381 --> 01:33:23.490
with the amount of, uh, Matt refineries they were putting up to handle the renewable fuel Chad was talking about.

01:33:24.100 --> 01:33:29.201
Um, it was, we actually couldn't produce enough soybeans to fill them.

01:33:30.490 --> 01:33:33.650
Oh, so it was huge.

01:33:34.341 --> 01:33:35.341
Huge impact.

01:33:35.350 --> 01:33:37.371
Non GMO soybeans anyway, right?

01:33:37.440 --> 01:33:37.900
No.

01:33:37.940 --> 01:33:38.400
GMO.

01:33:38.541 --> 01:33:39.150
Oh, period.

01:33:39.220 --> 01:33:41.661
You make any kind, yeah, you make full out any kind.

01:33:41.671 --> 01:33:42.220
Yeah, yeah.

01:33:42.310 --> 01:33:45.421
You know, you take away, um, GMO beans.

01:33:45.860 --> 01:33:46.140
Right.

01:33:46.140 --> 01:33:48.211
It also makes a shortage for non GMO.

01:33:48.301 --> 01:33:48.610
Mm hmm.

01:33:48.671 --> 01:33:53.291
And so Same with the big push into ethanol, and then all of a sudden you got 7 corn.

01:33:53.350 --> 01:33:53.680
Yeah.

01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:55.381
Nobody cares about organic gas.

01:33:56.060 --> 01:33:56.220
Fair.

01:33:56.940 --> 01:34:04.761
And now all of a sudden, um, they've, they've put in these infrastructures that are massive and very expensive.

01:34:04.761 --> 01:34:18.831
The actual process of making renewable fuel out of refined, um, bean oil, which is the biggest one is actually extremely cheap, but to build the, the facility is massively expensive.

01:34:19.360 --> 01:34:31.520
Now they've gotten a lot of these structures done and Um, because crude oil's going down, the demand for Right, so there's not as much profit in that biodiesel.

01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:32.371
So, yep.

01:34:32.480 --> 01:34:34.970
And so the, uh, demand for it's gone down.

01:34:36.121 --> 01:34:37.270
Well, and diesel's gone down.

01:34:37.270 --> 01:34:40.150
The spread between diesel and gasoline has gone down quite a bit as well.

01:34:40.240 --> 01:34:41.990
Yeah, and that's always interesting.

01:34:41.990 --> 01:34:46.110
If you don't believe in supply and demand, you, you, diesel and gas should make you.

01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:47.070
Totally.

01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:48.430
Yeah, diesel costs.

01:34:48.440 --> 01:34:52.011
Diesel is minimally refined, and it costs a buck more than gasoline can.

01:34:52.011 --> 01:34:53.400
Diesel's a byproduct of gasoline.

01:34:53.480 --> 01:34:54.270
Oh, is that right?

01:34:54.360 --> 01:34:55.240
Right, correct.

01:34:55.411 --> 01:34:56.841
No, I don't think so.

01:34:56.871 --> 01:34:58.331
I don't know to be honest with you.

01:34:58.360 --> 01:34:59.661
Yeah, I thought it was.

01:34:59.690 --> 01:35:00.680
I think Kurt's right.

01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:05.570
I think it's, um, just needs a lot less refinement, just cheaper in general to make.

01:35:05.650 --> 01:35:06.030
Right.

01:35:07.150 --> 01:35:12.390
So I thought it was a part of like, there's a couple steps in between, but essentially it's, it flows off of the process.

01:35:12.390 --> 01:35:16.001
If we weren't making gas, there wouldn't be as much diesel supply.

01:35:16.211 --> 01:35:17.551
Seems like it's probably right too.

01:35:17.930 --> 01:35:21.001
Yeah, simply supply and demand, which is.

01:35:21.881 --> 01:35:23.740
They're pretty smart, OPEC.

01:35:24.490 --> 01:35:24.791
Right.

01:35:26.110 --> 01:35:54.966
Um, you guys mentioned earlier, uh, that had it not been for the uptick in sales during the COVID pandemic, Lockdowns your restaurant clients that were the bulk of your business that would have hurt you pretty bad But you I went home and built a rock cleaning machine Landscaping lock cleaning machine because I thought we were gonna have nothing to do Okay, so we were gonna go around and get and and clean rock for people's houses around buildings and stuff Okay, that's how I was gonna employ him.

01:35:55.095 --> 01:35:59.046
That was your idea of getting through the yeah, it works really well I cleaned my own rock.

01:35:59.095 --> 01:36:04.462
It was insightful too because people spent all their money A whole bunch of money on their houses and making their houses look cuter and stuff.

01:36:04.462 --> 01:36:05.734
That's what gave me the idea.

01:36:05.734 --> 01:36:11.546
I went to, uh, Home Depot to get landscaping material and they were out and said they wouldn't have any for months.

01:36:11.735 --> 01:36:12.155
Oh, right.

01:36:12.176 --> 01:36:12.445
Huh.

01:36:13.286 --> 01:36:15.926
You know, I see what's going on here, maybe.

01:36:17.015 --> 01:36:17.296
Yep.

01:36:17.676 --> 01:36:20.115
Have you always had that kind of look ahead, Dwayne?

01:36:20.206 --> 01:36:20.945
I don't know.

01:36:21.735 --> 01:36:23.136
Sometimes it's not right.

01:36:23.145 --> 01:36:24.485
Sometimes it's broken, yeah, same.

01:36:25.036 --> 01:36:32.791
We're, uh, We have a very strong panic mode when it needs to be, you know, we're, we're, our crisis mode is what we call it.

01:36:33.480 --> 01:36:38.900
Uh, both of us are like, when, when it's a true crisis, it's, it's foots on the pavement.

01:36:39.411 --> 01:36:44.451
Um, so yeah, I would say so when it, when, uh, your, your ass is against the wall.

01:36:45.445 --> 01:36:46.605
We're not going to do nothing.

01:36:46.605 --> 01:36:47.565
What are we going to do?

01:36:47.975 --> 01:36:49.565
If we can't do this, what are we going to do?

01:36:50.036 --> 01:36:50.605
We'll figure out something.

01:36:50.626 --> 01:36:54.386
That's, uh, you guys would have a good time hanging out with my dad.

01:36:54.386 --> 01:37:00.886
One of his old quotes was, uh, Well, I know sometimes you don't know exactly the right thing to do, but do something.

01:37:01.506 --> 01:37:02.805
If you figure out it's wrong, then do something.

01:37:02.975 --> 01:37:03.756
Do something different.

01:37:03.805 --> 01:37:06.195
Doing something wrong is way better than doing nothing.

01:37:06.206 --> 01:37:06.676
Right.

01:37:06.746 --> 01:37:07.586
100%.

01:37:07.586 --> 01:37:08.819
That's one of my quotes.

01:37:08.819 --> 01:37:19.136
And the biggest insult my dad would give a fellow farmer typically would be something along the lines of, Oh yeah, that guy, I don't know if he's ever pushed a pencil to nothing in his life.

01:37:19.416 --> 01:37:19.815
Hmm.

01:37:20.525 --> 01:37:21.685
I just, I never heard that.

01:37:21.685 --> 01:37:26.496
I'll make and making decisions without pushing the pencil and what you were talking about and whether it be.

01:37:27.150 --> 01:37:37.530
Deciding which crops to grow, what weight to buy your feeder cows, what weight to sell them at, what, you know, where you can source grain and then ship it and make a margin.

01:37:38.211 --> 01:37:39.140
All that's math.

01:37:40.220 --> 01:37:45.671
Well, my dad used to say, are you ever going to get your ass out of the office and come out here and do some real work?

01:37:47.791 --> 01:37:49.940
And you're like, I'm trying to make sure the math works, Dad.

01:37:50.490 --> 01:37:52.270
Grandpa's a special breed though.

01:37:52.341 --> 01:37:52.711
Yeah.

01:37:52.751 --> 01:37:53.180
Yeah.

01:37:53.211 --> 01:37:54.011
He's awesome.

01:37:54.650 --> 01:37:56.331
Um, let's move into family now.

01:37:57.716 --> 01:38:00.886
Why don't, why don't you give some observations on, on family?

01:38:01.326 --> 01:38:02.296
Observations?

01:38:02.376 --> 01:38:02.685
Yeah.

01:38:02.886 --> 01:38:03.676
I mean, I'm single.

01:38:03.676 --> 01:38:07.895
I don't know how many I have, but I do have a seven year old son and he's awesome.

01:38:07.996 --> 01:38:08.246
Okay.

01:38:08.246 --> 01:38:13.536
So, but with our family business, I do, I, we're super tight knit.

01:38:13.956 --> 01:38:14.265
Yeah.

01:38:14.315 --> 01:38:18.935
Um, very, very close, but I feel like, I don't know.

01:38:18.935 --> 01:38:21.086
I feel like I don't know a lot of people who are like us.

01:38:21.126 --> 01:38:21.395
Yeah.

01:38:21.405 --> 01:38:24.015
Just cause we grew up so secluded and so different.

01:38:24.025 --> 01:38:24.345
Right.

01:38:24.355 --> 01:38:24.376
Yeah.

01:38:24.805 --> 01:38:25.176
Like.

01:38:25.605 --> 01:38:26.985
You know each other a lot.

01:38:27.206 --> 01:39:40.291
Yeah, I reckon family perspectives are very small one changed the way I think of things a lot for example This is just a weird example, but when I was a kid Growing up in the late 90s and early 2000s, you know, um, like Equal pay for women and everything was really really big And and sexism in the workplace I didn't understand that right same because everyone every woman in my family worked alongside the men And there was no difference or disparity I never Got that entire discussion until I got older and actually saw some of it And I was like, what do you mean like every woman in my family does the same exact shit that I do And they get paid the same for it that I do and I don't know what you're talking about Because I grew up so secluded and different so I feel like my family perspective is very very tight knit But I don't even I don't even know how other people function in a weird way I have so many friends who are not close to their family at all I think I want to jump in here and just kind of observe something because I think that's true culturally of most kind of rural and agrarian regions.

01:39:40.291 --> 01:39:41.570
And it isn't just on the farms.

01:39:41.570 --> 01:39:44.801
It's also in the small communities that surround those farms.

01:39:45.650 --> 01:39:51.211
And that's why I think it's so kind of silly to brand the conservatives.

01:39:51.716 --> 01:39:54.796
if you will, which are in all those places as the misogynists.

01:39:55.046 --> 01:39:56.315
No, that's kind of bullshit.

01:39:56.315 --> 01:40:03.676
Like, like in the cities is where all these jobs are that you're talking about, have the big pay gaps and those are the, where the liberals live.

01:40:03.676 --> 01:40:06.376
Nobody worked harder on my family farm than my grandma.

01:40:06.485 --> 01:40:06.796
Right.

01:40:06.805 --> 01:40:10.256
Nobody, she would work all day and still take care of everything in the house.

01:40:10.716 --> 01:40:13.355
It's like, she was the hardest working person I knew.

01:40:13.466 --> 01:40:14.506
So I don't know.

01:40:14.735 --> 01:40:15.515
That's why I was saying this.

01:40:15.525 --> 01:40:16.746
It was so weird to me.

01:40:17.206 --> 01:40:21.275
If you'd hear about it growing up, when I was a kid and I was a teenager, Right.

01:40:21.315 --> 01:40:23.626
And I'd be like, yeah, maybe somewhere, I don't know.

01:40:23.886 --> 01:40:26.935
But uh, that was nothing I ever experienced.

01:40:27.355 --> 01:40:31.905
My sisters worked hard just like I did and I didn't understand it at all.

01:40:32.006 --> 01:40:32.326
Yeah.

01:40:32.525 --> 01:40:41.456
And that was, that's just a weird scenario of why our family's so tight, but we have a different, uh, culture than, than I guess most people.

01:40:41.506 --> 01:40:42.055
And I don't.

01:40:42.065 --> 01:40:42.586
That's true.

01:40:43.046 --> 01:40:50.485
Well, I think that culture is more pronounced, you know, I think it's mostly just stories of.

01:40:50.485 --> 01:40:50.626
Yeah.

01:40:51.065 --> 01:40:54.275
misogyny and pay gaps and, and things like that, frankly.

01:40:54.275 --> 01:40:55.365
Yeah.

01:40:55.945 --> 01:41:02.805
I don't think conservatism and liberal people in the country are very relevant at all.

01:41:02.805 --> 01:41:07.836
I think it's rural people are just different than city people in general.

01:41:07.836 --> 01:41:16.706
And I'm not really sure politics I've met lots of very liberal farmers and I've met some extremely conservative ones.

01:41:17.155 --> 01:41:17.536
Right.

01:41:17.546 --> 01:41:19.475
Well, and I, yeah, I suppose that's fair.

01:41:19.515 --> 01:41:21.095
Well, but a liberal farmer.

01:41:21.570 --> 01:41:27.570
Like a Democrat from North Dakota would be a Republican just about any place else.

01:41:27.631 --> 01:41:28.921
But I was liberals.

01:41:29.280 --> 01:41:29.650
Right?

01:41:29.801 --> 01:41:30.320
That's true.

01:41:31.081 --> 01:41:35.591
So I would say the biggest, um, I'm sorry, we're still with you.

01:41:35.831 --> 01:41:36.390
No, it's fine.

01:41:36.490 --> 01:41:37.331
No, we're going back and forth.

01:41:37.331 --> 01:41:47.530
I would say one of the biggest culture shocks for me up here, and I'm going to sound pretty bad here, but how Good, that's why I get the listeners.

01:41:49.890 --> 01:41:54.121
Everybody was totally obsessed with washing their hands when they go to the bathroom.

01:41:56.400 --> 01:42:00.110
I mean, where I come from, we washed our hands before you went to the bathroom.

01:42:00.110 --> 01:42:01.600
The only thing clean on you.

01:42:02.930 --> 01:42:07.680
I told my wife, I said, I don't know if these guys pee on their fingers or if they never wash their junk.

01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:09.551
I can't figure out what the hell's going on up here.

01:42:09.551 --> 01:42:12.371
Why do you gotta wash your hands after you pee?

01:42:12.421 --> 01:42:13.480
I still don't get it.

01:42:15.390 --> 01:42:18.161
Yeah, our environment was a little more dirty than the average.

01:42:18.831 --> 01:42:19.930
I think it was cleaner.

01:42:20.911 --> 01:42:21.711
Not for our hands.

01:42:21.820 --> 01:42:22.150
Yeah.

01:42:22.331 --> 01:42:25.680
I haven't seen anybody pee on a toilet stool where I was peeing.

01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:26.480
There wasn't a toilet.

01:42:27.511 --> 01:42:30.850
I'm getting pretty good at not peeing on my hands, I do have to say.

01:42:32.091 --> 01:42:32.881
Probably for a while now.

01:42:34.041 --> 01:42:36.530
It doesn't take long to figure out you gotta pee downwind.

01:42:36.541 --> 01:42:37.671
I mean, you know, after that.

01:42:37.671 --> 01:42:40.180
Oh yeah, yeah, if you're from North Dakota, that's easy.

01:42:40.480 --> 01:42:46.970
Chad, while we're in the family segment here, um, We usually do a one word description of the children.

01:42:47.360 --> 01:42:50.190
Would you like to give your son a one word description?

01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:52.131
Ooh, intelligent.

01:42:52.381 --> 01:42:52.671
Yeah.

01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:53.301
One word.

01:42:53.301 --> 01:42:53.661
Yeah.

01:42:54.150 --> 01:42:54.591
Yep.

01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:55.770
He's a smart kid.

01:42:55.961 --> 01:42:56.520
What's his name?

01:42:56.791 --> 01:42:57.360
Rylan.

01:42:57.940 --> 01:43:01.390
And, uh, is he, you and his mom share time or?

01:43:01.421 --> 01:43:01.570
Yep.

01:43:01.570 --> 01:43:02.511
We're 50, 50.

01:43:02.511 --> 01:43:02.751
Yeah.

01:43:02.881 --> 01:43:03.890
And we get along very well.

01:43:03.890 --> 01:43:05.190
Yeah.

01:43:05.190 --> 01:43:08.291
So, uh, he's a smart kid.

01:43:08.301 --> 01:43:08.850
He does.

01:43:08.930 --> 01:43:11.001
He's very emotionally intelligent.

01:43:11.581 --> 01:43:12.131
Which.

01:43:13.395 --> 01:43:15.046
I don't know if I had that as a kid.

01:43:15.371 --> 01:43:16.211
Uh, I don't think so.

01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:18.060
Dwight's shaking his head, nope.

01:43:18.060 --> 01:43:18.530
I don't think so.

01:43:18.591 --> 01:43:19.251
Not really.

01:43:19.711 --> 01:43:24.570
Um, but he also, he uses that to his advantage sometimes in not a good way.

01:43:24.581 --> 01:43:24.900
Yeah, yeah.

01:43:25.240 --> 01:43:25.841
Yeah.

01:43:25.890 --> 01:43:30.610
He knows how to emotionally, uh, Kind of manipulate the situation.

01:43:30.621 --> 01:43:32.850
Especially older people, uh, or adults, I should say.

01:43:32.860 --> 01:43:33.331
Right, right.

01:43:33.810 --> 01:43:35.350
Um, AKA grandma.

01:43:35.451 --> 01:43:36.911
I was going to say grandma's easy.

01:43:37.185 --> 01:43:42.185
Every woman that's an adult, he's just like, Oh, I'm a cute seven year old boy.

01:43:42.195 --> 01:43:45.945
You should go get me a popsicle, like a kid.

01:43:46.456 --> 01:43:48.195
But yeah, he's a, he's a really smart kid.

01:43:48.246 --> 01:43:50.615
Um, but he's really well behaved and he's good kid.

01:43:50.786 --> 01:43:51.305
No, it's seven.

01:43:51.315 --> 01:43:53.265
It's about a first grader, second grade, first grade.

01:43:53.395 --> 01:43:53.645
Okay.

01:43:54.345 --> 01:43:56.466
Um, Dwayne, let's shift over to you.

01:43:56.605 --> 01:44:01.265
Uh, what was it about, um, Melissa, your wife?

01:44:01.305 --> 01:44:01.706
What was it?

01:44:01.786 --> 01:44:09.020
Uh, we asked, talked about, The mystery surrounding why she kept hanging around you, but why was it that you wanted to keep hanging around her?

01:44:09.081 --> 01:44:26.930
Oh, I She was way out of my only girl that would talk to me She's way out of my leg, I mean I was It's all I thought about and I just I couldn't believe she was hanging with me.

01:44:26.980 --> 01:44:31.166
Yeah Just unbelievable how lucky I am.

01:44:31.365 --> 01:44:33.315
How many, uh, how many years you've been together now?

01:44:33.525 --> 01:44:33.935
40.

01:44:34.405 --> 01:44:35.845
40 married or 40 together?

01:44:36.536 --> 01:44:37.336
40 married.

01:44:37.365 --> 01:44:37.796
Okay.

01:44:38.006 --> 01:44:38.845
Congratulations.

01:44:38.895 --> 01:44:39.235
Yeah.

01:44:39.685 --> 01:44:41.886
My wife and I just celebrated 20 years last May.

01:44:41.886 --> 01:44:45.365
Better than average, I guess, by this time.

01:44:45.536 --> 01:44:45.836
Yeah.

01:44:46.246 --> 01:44:49.876
She's, uh, she's just incredible.

01:44:49.876 --> 01:44:57.286
I mean, she came out, I put on, On a four wheel drive tractor and a disc and a bunch of real tall green rye.

01:44:57.286 --> 01:44:57.496
Okay.

01:44:57.586 --> 01:45:02.086
That kept plugging and I made it around and showed her how to unplug it, spread it out.

01:45:02.086 --> 01:45:06.405
My plan being to come back and show her what a superior tractor driver eye was and see.

01:45:06.405 --> 01:45:06.496
Right.

01:45:06.496 --> 01:45:07.546
You didn't have to plug it up all the time.

01:45:07.546 --> 01:45:09.740
It was done She did it.

01:45:10.246 --> 01:45:11.621
She figured it out that quick.

01:45:11.631 --> 01:45:12.301
Everything.

01:45:12.301 --> 01:45:12.301
Yeah.

01:45:12.306 --> 01:45:16.546
She's like figured out if I go this way across the grain here, then it doesn't plug up as much.

01:45:16.576 --> 01:45:16.666
Yep.

01:45:16.666 --> 01:45:17.206
So I just did that.

01:45:17.211 --> 01:45:18.195
That's exactly right.

01:45:18.195 --> 01:45:19.636
She figured it out right away.

01:45:20.100 --> 01:45:24.291
And, uh, every single thing on the farm, she was just a natural.

01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.860
Immediately, she could do anything so well.

01:45:27.890 --> 01:45:33.930
That made her probably pretty popular with, uh, Your mom and dad were they both still part of the operation at that time?

01:45:34.131 --> 01:45:47.430
That's why I never that's why I was worked really hard not to get divorced because I was the one that was gonna have to leave They're like, where did you find this girl and how in the world did you convince her to come back here with you?

01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:57.496
Yeah Well right before I met her my mom asked me when I was gonna meet her girl and settle down and I remember telling her Mom, I would never marry a girl who married a guy like me.

01:45:59.336 --> 01:46:00.815
She did stop asking after that.

01:46:00.815 --> 01:46:01.945
Yeah, that's right.

01:46:02.576 --> 01:46:04.435
Um, tell me about your grandpa a little bit, Chad.

01:46:04.506 --> 01:46:05.855
You said he was kind of a wild man.

01:46:06.405 --> 01:46:06.966
Grandpa?

01:46:07.046 --> 01:46:07.416
Yeah.

01:46:07.466 --> 01:46:13.185
I wouldn't say a wild man in terms of like, I don't know, he wasn't a drinker or anything like that.

01:46:13.515 --> 01:46:17.060
He was just a very hardcore Hard working man.

01:46:17.121 --> 01:46:18.730
Yeah He's born.

01:46:18.730 --> 01:46:21.860
He was born in 1930 right smack dab.

01:46:21.860 --> 01:46:26.371
We're in the middle of the Great Depression and and Work was a lot harder back then right?

01:46:26.501 --> 01:46:40.720
I mean even in the 60s and 70s was significantly harder totally and When you have a big farm and a lot of cattle and things like that You're just you just you have to have it ingrained in you that you're A hardcore worker.

01:46:40.780 --> 01:46:41.060
Yeah.

01:46:41.230 --> 01:46:44.490
And I think our family was pretty known for overworking.

01:46:44.961 --> 01:46:45.371
Mm hmm.

01:46:45.381 --> 01:46:46.801
And that started with Grandpa.

01:46:46.810 --> 01:46:46.831
Yeah.

01:46:46.911 --> 01:46:48.551
And even my great grandpa, Henry.

01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:55.490
They were just, they were really hard working, hard nosed people who, they just, they didn't fuck around.

01:46:55.770 --> 01:46:55.990
Right.

01:46:56.051 --> 01:46:56.490
They didn't.

01:46:56.841 --> 01:47:06.831
That was, uh, when I moved out here from, from North Dakota to Colorado, I, I got into the banking industry right away and I, working in people be like, man, you work so hard.

01:47:06.831 --> 01:47:07.871
You're so productive.

01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:10.621
And I was like, damn, I'm coasting.

01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:11.051
Yeah.

01:47:11.661 --> 01:47:14.680
Compared to the culture I grew up in.

01:47:14.711 --> 01:47:16.301
I haven't worked hardly since I got here.

01:47:16.390 --> 01:47:20.261
And I remember my dad telling me stories of my great grandpa Henry.

01:47:20.701 --> 01:47:24.291
Um, who, I think I was only three, maybe, when he passed away.

01:47:24.751 --> 01:47:27.081
But, he would outwork me.

01:47:27.530 --> 01:47:30.060
Men in their 20s when he was in the 70s, right?

01:47:30.430 --> 01:47:33.970
And that was like, in the, in the 80s, 70 was actually old.

01:47:34.180 --> 01:47:34.570
Yeah.

01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:39.820
And in the eighties when work was significantly harder, physically on a farm and he's still doing it.

01:47:40.020 --> 01:47:42.211
The Stroh's were known to be hotheads too.

01:47:42.211 --> 01:47:46.650
My grandpa punched everybody in Holyoke at one time, but they all loved him.

01:47:48.770 --> 01:47:53.680
And my dad is probably the most charming grouchy German you'll ever meet in your life.

01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:55.560
You can't help but love him, but he's always.

01:47:55.966 --> 01:47:58.876
Is that your, uh, your family tree is mostly German?

01:47:58.876 --> 01:48:01.006
Or where did Melissa's family come from?

01:48:01.905 --> 01:48:05.805
Um, she's more Pennsylvania, Dutch, English, and then some German.

01:48:05.895 --> 01:48:06.286
Okay.

01:48:06.376 --> 01:48:06.826
I don't know.

01:48:07.036 --> 01:48:07.246
Yeah.

01:48:07.940 --> 01:48:08.230
Yeah.

01:48:08.536 --> 01:48:09.225
Northern, that's about it.

01:48:09.225 --> 01:48:10.966
Northern European kind of mix.

01:48:11.086 --> 01:48:11.176
Mm-Hmm.

01:48:11.475 --> 01:48:11.985
I like it.

01:48:12.345 --> 01:48:15.525
Um, let's talk about, uh, faith.

01:48:16.065 --> 01:48:18.046
We covered family and politics a little bit.

01:48:18.076 --> 01:48:19.905
Uh, faith background for you.

01:48:21.115 --> 01:48:23.275
I think we're both Christians.

01:48:23.426 --> 01:48:23.725
Okay.

01:48:23.845 --> 01:48:25.546
Unless you've changed something recently.

01:48:25.996 --> 01:48:30.926
No, I think we're Just mainstream Christians, uh, Catholic, Methodists.

01:48:31.275 --> 01:48:39.331
I, I guess I would have to describe myself as a hardcore Jesus believer, but pretty anti religion.

01:48:39.511 --> 01:48:39.831
Okay.

01:48:39.841 --> 01:48:40.201
Agreed.

01:48:40.211 --> 01:48:40.331
Yeah.

01:48:40.331 --> 01:48:44.961
That's why I say faith instead of religion, honestly, because there are two different things.

01:48:44.961 --> 01:48:46.730
I'm kind of an anti religion guy too.

01:48:46.841 --> 01:48:47.801
It's pretty impressive.

01:48:47.801 --> 01:48:53.791
What's what horrible things have been done in the name of religion, but it's so different than, than faith.

01:48:53.900 --> 01:48:54.240
Yeah.

01:48:54.261 --> 01:49:00.600
Well, yeah, mostly, most of the wonderful things that have been done in the world have been at least sparked by faith.

01:49:01.220 --> 01:49:02.140
faith I would say.

01:49:02.390 --> 01:49:03.581
A lot of them have, huh?

01:49:03.650 --> 01:49:04.140
Yeah.

01:49:04.841 --> 01:49:10.690
Um, so do you take part in an organized church at all then in that space?

01:49:11.131 --> 01:49:11.680
Yeah, I do.

01:49:11.801 --> 01:49:12.150
Okay.

01:49:12.610 --> 01:49:18.265
Uh, there's a small church, actually it's pretty new, in uh, In Loveland, it's called River Church.

01:49:18.386 --> 01:49:18.765
Okay.

01:49:18.886 --> 01:49:25.876
Um, Ironically met some people I used to live next to who moved up here from Arkansas to help start a church.

01:49:25.895 --> 01:49:26.235
Okay.

01:49:26.475 --> 01:49:27.286
And that's where I go.

01:49:27.416 --> 01:49:29.555
Um, it's a non denominational.

01:49:29.765 --> 01:49:31.345
Were they used to be in Fort Collins?

01:49:31.555 --> 01:49:33.855
Were they right by the Safeway there?

01:49:33.935 --> 01:49:34.525
No, no.

01:49:34.525 --> 01:49:37.975
They just started like five months ago.

01:49:38.036 --> 01:49:38.536
Oh, wow.

01:49:38.536 --> 01:49:38.706
Okay.

01:49:38.836 --> 01:49:39.586
Very new church.

01:49:39.586 --> 01:49:40.462
How many members?

01:49:40.462 --> 01:49:40.756
Okay.

01:49:42.416 --> 01:49:43.725
Maybe 50?

01:49:43.725 --> 01:49:44.105
Yeah.

01:49:44.105 --> 01:49:44.805
A little small.

01:49:44.805 --> 01:49:45.778
A little small like that.

01:49:45.778 --> 01:49:46.009
Yeah.

01:49:46.009 --> 01:49:46.703
A little bit.

01:49:46.703 --> 01:49:55.025
Actually the church that my wife and I are a part of is called The Crossing and it was about 50 people when we started attending like 12 or 13 years ago.

01:49:55.076 --> 01:49:56.006
Where's that church at?

01:49:56.136 --> 01:49:58.756
Um, Shields and Horsetooth in Fort Collins.

01:49:58.756 --> 01:49:59.195
Oh yeah?

01:49:59.195 --> 01:49:59.416
Yeah.

01:49:59.416 --> 01:50:14.751
Um, it was kind of like, four weeks after we started attending, they announced that basically been a, I don't know, not adopted, but there was a mountain range church or similar was the name of it, kind of a non denominational, but they'd been two or three years without a pastor.

01:50:14.751 --> 01:50:20.280
So just lay pastors had been kind of scabbing it through and their membership was down to 30 or something.

01:50:20.820 --> 01:50:25.341
And they're like, Hey, you guys are outgrowing your current space here.

01:50:25.341 --> 01:50:32.320
You seem pretty cool as far as your doctrine and your leadership and humble and Presbyterian ish and whatever.

01:50:33.025 --> 01:50:42.626
How about we just give you our church building, and we'll fold our remaining congregation into your church, and then, um, you can be here instead.

01:50:43.065 --> 01:50:43.775
How'd that work?

01:50:44.095 --> 01:50:44.676
Really great.

01:50:44.836 --> 01:50:44.865
Nice.

01:50:44.886 --> 01:50:48.076
Um, because our church was just puppies.

01:50:48.095 --> 01:50:53.756
It was, you know, me and my wife at age 40 at the time, or 37, were like some of the old people.

01:50:53.926 --> 01:50:54.296
Mm.

01:50:54.445 --> 01:50:58.775
But we folded in like 25 or 30 old people.

01:50:59.256 --> 01:51:08.746
So, it was nice for them to finally have somebody under 50 in their congregation, and nice for us to have some, some aged wisdom as well, in some cases.

01:51:08.975 --> 01:51:10.746
And now it's 350 people or something.

01:51:10.975 --> 01:51:11.916
Aged wisdom.

01:51:12.655 --> 01:51:15.105
Oh, I wasn't talking about you though, sorry, just kidding.

01:51:15.956 --> 01:51:19.176
That's cute how you did that though.

01:51:19.176 --> 01:51:24.206
The river church that I go to is, that's, it's very young, very young, I mean, I think the pastors are very young.

01:51:26.030 --> 01:51:27.440
35, maybe.

01:51:27.761 --> 01:51:31.520
So, and they all are, everyone that helped start it is pretty young.

01:51:31.890 --> 01:51:32.711
So it's, it's been a lot of fun.

01:51:32.711 --> 01:51:34.121
It's cool to be a part of something like that, isn't it?

01:51:34.121 --> 01:51:34.461
Yeah.

01:51:34.610 --> 01:51:36.041
I mean, I didn't do anything to start it.

01:51:36.041 --> 01:51:36.461
Sure.

01:51:36.530 --> 01:51:37.091
I just didn't attend.

01:51:37.490 --> 01:51:38.400
Um, but it's cool.

01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:38.761
Yeah.

01:51:38.770 --> 01:51:40.100
It's cool to see it grow and change.

01:51:40.461 --> 01:51:40.871
Fair enough.

01:51:41.310 --> 01:51:46.671
Um, Dwayne, are you exercising your community part of your faith right now?

01:51:46.850 --> 01:51:48.980
You know, I miss the churches in Holyoke.

01:51:49.100 --> 01:51:49.631
Okay.

01:51:49.940 --> 01:51:51.690
So my wife loves the anonymity.

01:51:54.155 --> 01:51:55.115
Anonymity, yeah.

01:51:55.126 --> 01:51:55.435
Thank you.

01:51:55.515 --> 01:51:55.876
Okay.

01:51:55.895 --> 01:51:59.895
That, because it's so big and there's so many people, and I miss the fellowship.

01:52:00.676 --> 01:52:04.496
And so, we're actually, um, thinking about going to a new church right now.

01:52:04.506 --> 01:52:08.315
We've been part of the, um, help me, what is the big one in Lafayette?

01:52:08.626 --> 01:52:09.145
Flatirons.

01:52:09.195 --> 01:52:09.826
Flatirons.

01:52:09.826 --> 01:52:10.185
Oh, okay.

01:52:10.506 --> 01:52:14.386
We've been part of that, but it just does It's really cool.

01:52:14.386 --> 01:52:15.435
It's pretty easy to get lost.

01:52:15.805 --> 01:52:16.815
It's really cool.

01:52:16.815 --> 01:52:17.456
I love it.

01:52:17.756 --> 01:52:19.206
It's like going to a concert.

01:52:19.565 --> 01:52:20.025
Right.

01:52:20.105 --> 01:52:27.246
It's always, you know, but it's a long ways and so um, I'm not sure exactly where we're going to end up.

01:52:27.416 --> 01:52:27.765
Okay.

01:52:28.626 --> 01:52:29.076
Well.

01:52:29.735 --> 01:52:30.815
Keep, keep chasing.

01:52:30.815 --> 01:52:34.586
My wife and I lived in Colorado Springs for three years and change.

01:52:34.586 --> 01:52:38.006
And we never really did find the right church for us.

01:52:38.006 --> 01:52:41.475
We visited a whole bunch of, there's a lot of weird churches out there.

01:52:41.605 --> 01:52:47.426
Tell you what, uh, you start getting on the visit train and you'd be like, oh boy, especially if it's closer, you get to Utah.

01:52:49.645 --> 01:52:50.546
Let's talk more about that.

01:52:50.546 --> 01:52:51.725
Just kidding.

01:52:53.206 --> 01:53:07.081
Um, when you, uh, when you imagine, um, Like, developing a faith journey, or if you were talking to somebody that has no background in that, what would you say your why is?

01:53:07.131 --> 01:53:13.770
Like, why did you choose to maybe get back involved with this river church, or did you leave someplace else?

01:53:14.900 --> 01:53:18.530
Um, hmm, that's a good question.

01:53:19.560 --> 01:53:24.761
I think for me, just in my head, uh, it makes more sense to me than not.

01:53:27.291 --> 01:53:32.820
I just, I, I actually am a huge fan of science and different things like that.

01:53:32.820 --> 01:53:39.180
And there's always been this weird stigmatism that if you're a hardcore believer in science, then you can't believe in religion.

01:53:39.190 --> 01:53:39.720
Right, right.

01:53:39.841 --> 01:53:46.470
And I'm so the opposite of like, how can anyone believe that much in coincidence?

01:53:46.490 --> 01:53:46.871
Right.

01:53:47.461 --> 01:53:53.201
Um, so to me it just, it makes more sense in my little lizard brain.

01:53:53.341 --> 01:53:53.581
Yeah.

01:53:53.610 --> 01:53:54.680
But, um.

01:53:55.815 --> 01:54:01.805
It also, uh, it just, it gives you some hope in life as well.

01:54:01.826 --> 01:54:02.485
Mm, yeah.

01:54:02.485 --> 01:54:06.376
And it just Something beyond yourself to consider.

01:54:06.405 --> 01:54:06.735
Yeah, yep.

01:54:07.136 --> 01:54:08.225
That isn't the state.

01:54:08.456 --> 01:54:08.475
Yeah.

01:54:09.966 --> 01:54:17.456
That was somebody, one of the MSN or similar folks was trying to describe Christian nationalism.

01:54:18.131 --> 01:54:31.261
Um, recently you've heard that it's praised probably in the last few years that there's this, you know, Christian nationalism is a great threat to I've heard the phrase, but I can't think of anyone who fits the category.

01:54:31.261 --> 01:54:33.280
So I'm not really sure what I'm not familiar with.

01:54:33.320 --> 01:54:45.586
It looks well, the, the, the description that this, that this, uh, rep used was, um, Christian nationalists are those who think that their rights are granted by God, not given to them by the, the State.

01:54:45.746 --> 01:54:48.036
And I was like, I guess that's me.

01:54:49.595 --> 01:54:51.985
That sounds like some serious propaganda.

01:54:52.036 --> 01:55:01.395
And that was, well, and that was supposed to be like an insulting thing to somebody that would describe themselves as a Christian nationalist is someone that thinks their rights are granted to them by God.

01:55:01.395 --> 01:55:13.945
And I was like, uh, the founding fathers, the constitution, like, uh, and I think that's the big danger of lack of faith is when there is nothing bigger than.

01:55:14.530 --> 01:55:23.850
the state, the person, God, you know, then the state is the biggest thing and now you have to just worship the state or they worship themselves and ask you to come along.

01:55:23.980 --> 01:55:27.770
It's no real concept of right and wrong, just legal and illegal.

01:55:27.951 --> 01:55:28.301
Right.

01:55:28.331 --> 01:55:28.970
Very different.

01:55:29.081 --> 01:55:29.751
Totally different.

01:55:29.751 --> 01:55:30.180
Yeah.

01:55:30.650 --> 01:55:34.310
I think it really takes a lot of courage to not believe in God.

01:55:34.310 --> 01:55:35.251
I can't imagine it.

01:55:35.631 --> 01:55:39.610
I love the feeling of church, just how you feel the serenity.

01:55:39.911 --> 01:55:40.251
Yeah.

01:55:40.551 --> 01:55:41.831
Just, I just love being there.

01:55:42.296 --> 01:55:42.676
I like it.

01:55:43.286 --> 01:55:54.746
Um, the loco experience, and uh, unless you guys have a loco experience together, this is the craziest experience of your lifetime that you're willing to share with our listeners.

01:55:55.655 --> 01:55:59.145
Could be a moment, could be a week, could be a year in the life.

01:55:59.166 --> 01:56:03.546
Yeah, kind of anything, anything that would, some might consider to be a crazy experience.

01:56:04.216 --> 01:56:08.985
It doesn't have to involve law, or near death, or anything like that.

01:56:08.985 --> 01:56:10.605
Uh, who, who wants to start?

01:56:10.636 --> 01:56:13.036
You already know what you're Just, just basically the wildest time of your life.

01:56:13.076 --> 01:56:17.155
The wildest time, wildest moment, wildest week, I don't know.

01:56:17.315 --> 01:56:18.496
Do we have immunity?

01:56:18.855 --> 01:56:21.065
Yeah, yeah, nobody's gonna listen to this, so don't worry.

01:56:21.576 --> 01:56:24.805
I was just gonna say, it's hard to narrow it down and choose what you can say.

01:56:26.105 --> 01:56:26.865
Go, you first.

01:56:28.275 --> 01:56:32.315
Age before me and me and my wife's second birthday ended up in a gunfight.

01:56:32.315 --> 01:56:38.956
That's probably the wildest Tell me more second date your second date Okay, what'd I say birthday?

01:56:39.645 --> 01:56:41.685
So your second you're up in the mountains here.

01:56:41.746 --> 01:56:51.185
No, we're out in Holyoke, America so like You can't just say Our gunfight.

01:56:51.416 --> 01:56:52.155
That was crazy.

01:56:52.296 --> 01:56:57.855
Like you gotta give me a little bit of meat on that bone So Not between the two of you, I assume.

01:56:57.966 --> 01:56:58.426
No.

01:56:58.555 --> 01:56:59.296
Okay, good.

01:57:00.105 --> 01:57:04.275
Um, but there is a reason I never bought her again the first 20 years we were married.

01:57:04.275 --> 01:57:13.275
But anyway, the uh, there was a couple of friends of mine that were surrounded by these guys and they hollered at me, We need, I need some help.

01:57:13.876 --> 01:57:14.296
Okay.

01:57:14.355 --> 01:57:17.445
And so, uh, this was like kids from the neighboring town or something like that?

01:57:17.445 --> 01:57:23.086
Well, we were, we were in, we were in the saloon and my wife asked me to go back in and buy her some smokes.

01:57:23.296 --> 01:57:23.805
Okay.

01:57:24.046 --> 01:57:36.676
And so I went over there and so anyway, we got into a little altercation and, and, uh, this, this guy was telling me, you know, what he was gonna do to me.

01:57:36.676 --> 01:57:40.426
And I thought, well, he could sure hear better if I took that window out of his pickup and.

01:57:41.570 --> 01:57:44.530
And the driver gassed it and rolled me out in the parking lot.

01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:46.390
And then the, uh, Okay.

01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:49.730
You're like hanging on the side of this pickup after smashing the fender.

01:57:49.810 --> 01:57:50.261
Oh shit.

01:57:50.291 --> 01:57:50.951
the fender.

01:57:51.030 --> 01:57:51.631
Okay.

01:57:51.631 --> 01:57:56.690
And so I jumped up and started running for the parked car and he tried to get me and he hit four cars.

01:57:56.711 --> 01:57:57.211
Oh shit.

01:57:57.701 --> 01:57:59.240
And, uh, Okay.

01:57:59.381 --> 01:58:00.930
So he was trying to run you down.

01:58:01.001 --> 01:58:01.461
Yeah.

01:58:01.701 --> 01:58:02.461
Well, he was mad.

01:58:02.631 --> 01:58:03.030
Right.

01:58:03.261 --> 01:58:05.161
That's because my friend, Drunk too, probably.

01:58:05.161 --> 01:58:05.551
Yeah.

01:58:06.461 --> 01:58:08.530
And so anyway, we, Were you scared?

01:58:10.091 --> 01:58:11.161
You don't really get scared.

01:58:11.230 --> 01:58:16.511
I wasn't smart enough to be, and now I, I guess, now I'm not, what, I don't know why I wasn't, but, anyway.

01:58:17.301 --> 01:58:24.251
So we chased them all out north of Holyoke, and they came out of the, a trailer with the shotgun and fired off a couple of rounds, and.

01:58:25.150 --> 01:58:28.331
And you're like in two or three pickup trucks with your girlfriend riding along?

01:58:28.570 --> 01:58:29.041
Yeah.

01:58:30.051 --> 01:58:34.841
My, my girlfriend was actually in the back seat of the car where my friend was trying to pick up on her.

01:58:34.841 --> 01:58:37.951
Dwayne's trouble.

01:58:37.980 --> 01:58:40.030
Yeah, exactly what he was saying.

01:58:40.240 --> 01:58:42.051
You see how he handled that back there?

01:58:42.131 --> 01:58:42.940
Just fucking run over?

01:58:42.961 --> 01:58:49.961
And so anyway, they come out with the shotgun and one of the guys that was in the altercation says, Let's rush them, they can't get us all.

01:58:50.551 --> 01:58:52.440
And I say, No, we're not going to do that.

01:58:52.560 --> 01:58:53.581
And he says, Well, I am.

01:58:54.341 --> 01:58:58.411
And so, I, I had to whack him, cause he was going to rush.

01:58:58.411 --> 01:58:59.051
Oh, you punched him?

01:58:59.280 --> 01:58:59.940
I did, yeah.

01:58:59.940 --> 01:59:00.310
Yeah.

01:59:00.341 --> 01:59:01.220
It's better than getting shot.

01:59:01.341 --> 01:59:01.740
Right.

01:59:01.881 --> 01:59:06.171
And then his brother showed up, who was considerably tougher, and one of them who whacked him.

01:59:06.881 --> 01:59:11.541
And so anyway, we went back to the saloon, and, and, um, Of course.

01:59:12.261 --> 01:59:22.001
And the cops came, and all that, and we got to talking, and come to find out these five guys that surrounded these brothers, Actually, The brothers started it.

01:59:22.030 --> 01:59:25.020
If I'd have known that, I would Oh, you were on the wrong side of it the whole time?

01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:26.921
Well, I didn't know the other guys.

01:59:26.921 --> 01:59:29.701
I certainly wasn't going to join their side, but I would have Right.

01:59:29.900 --> 01:59:31.161
Stay the hell out of it, at least.

01:59:31.180 --> 01:59:35.131
Well, somebody's earned an ass kick, and I'm kind of a believer they can go ahead and get it, you know.

01:59:35.190 --> 01:59:35.560
Right.

01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:37.041
Just make sure they don't get hurt bad.

01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:40.560
And so, yeah, that was our, our second or third date.

01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:41.220
I can't remember.

01:59:41.676 --> 01:59:41.966
Okay.

01:59:41.985 --> 01:59:43.466
And she came back the next weekend, so.

01:59:44.826 --> 01:59:44.985
Nice.

01:59:45.716 --> 01:59:46.206
I like it.

01:59:46.355 --> 01:59:46.805
I like it.

01:59:46.836 --> 02:00:03.916
I, uh, it reminds me of, uh, my wife and I went to a 311 concert years ago and I've shared this story in one of my podcasts, but like there was an altercation and somebody pushed a dude on top of these girls that were standing by us and hurt a couple of them, knocked them down.

02:00:03.926 --> 02:00:03.975
Um, Yeah.

02:00:04.400 --> 02:00:06.110
Pushed him off one of the ledges at Red Rocks.

02:00:06.201 --> 02:00:06.780
Wow.

02:00:06.921 --> 02:00:10.940
And then, the, the, the aggressor, like, punched a guy.

02:00:11.770 --> 02:00:15.400
Sent him down the whole flight of stairs at Red Rocks off to the side there.

02:00:15.451 --> 02:00:18.140
And, um, but fell down at the same time.

02:00:18.871 --> 02:00:22.440
And I was coming back from telling the security that they better get somebody up here.

02:00:22.440 --> 02:00:29.301
And I jumped up on top of this guy that was Kind of like you, but a lot tougher, probably.

02:00:29.570 --> 02:00:31.190
And I was riding this guy like a bull.

02:00:31.211 --> 02:00:34.951
Like, he's trying to get up, and I'm trying to knock his hands out from underneath him and stuff like that.

02:00:34.951 --> 02:00:46.466
And my wife was right there watching me, like, fighting with this guy that's 40 percent larger than I am and you know, that was her question for me is why did you have to get involved in that?

02:00:46.565 --> 02:00:48.365
Yeah, it just happens.

02:00:48.426 --> 02:00:49.916
Yeah, sometimes it just happens.

02:00:49.926 --> 02:00:51.185
I'm a justice enforcer.

02:00:51.485 --> 02:01:11.345
I'm not much of a fighter But no, neither am I But I fight for justice like yeah, you thought that's what you were doing even though you were wrong Yeah, all right Chad, what's your loco experience I don't know, there's quite a few.

02:01:11.836 --> 02:01:17.336
But, I would say, after college, I came back to be a caddy in my hometown.

02:01:17.515 --> 02:01:17.895
Okay.

02:01:18.036 --> 02:01:20.765
And, if you've ever seen the Holyoke Country Club or something?

02:01:20.876 --> 02:01:24.926
No, they built a pretty world class famous golf course.

02:01:24.935 --> 02:01:25.435
Oh, is that right?

02:01:25.515 --> 02:01:27.485
In the middle, yep, called Ballyneal.

02:01:27.485 --> 02:01:28.345
Oh, I have heard of that.

02:01:28.395 --> 02:01:35.265
Out in the Sandhills, the Holyoke, uh, very famous designer, and, and, It was all made to be exclusive for high end people.

02:01:36.211 --> 02:01:40.560
Anywho, the lifestyle of the caddy was very similar to Caddyshack.

02:01:40.930 --> 02:01:41.270
Right.

02:01:41.310 --> 02:01:43.680
Oh, and it was a very, very wild summer.

02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:45.150
I, I, I don't know.

02:01:45.161 --> 02:01:48.511
Right, you got all these rich and famous people out there in Polio Yeah.

02:01:48.511 --> 02:01:50.051
And you barely ever interacted with.

02:01:50.515 --> 02:01:51.845
Anybody rich or famous.

02:01:51.865 --> 02:01:53.136
And we got paid in cash.

02:01:53.136 --> 02:01:57.195
So it was usually like, well, should we spend it at the liquor store or getting food?

02:01:57.195 --> 02:01:58.666
And it was usually the liquor store.

02:01:58.666 --> 02:01:59.905
It was a wild time.

02:02:00.475 --> 02:02:07.676
And my parents were worried about me the whole time, which is arguably a good reason to be, they should have been.

02:02:08.115 --> 02:02:14.615
And, you know, some of my best friends of my entire life came from that experience that I'm very, very close with still today.

02:02:14.626 --> 02:02:18.765
Um, But it was a wild time that I'm real glad I'm not going back to.

02:02:19.126 --> 02:02:24.456
Is there any specific stories that, uh, you can share here without getting anybody in legal trouble?

02:02:24.506 --> 02:02:25.315
Oh, yeah, sure.

02:02:25.645 --> 02:02:34.926
Um, surprisingly similar to his story of one of my friends got in a fight and I was falling right behind him to come watch him beat somebody up.

02:02:35.445 --> 02:02:41.501
And, uh, There's these, uh, steel buckets that we use, that they use as ashtrays out there.

02:02:41.560 --> 02:02:41.860
Okay.

02:02:41.860 --> 02:02:42.831
A little sand in the bottom.

02:02:42.831 --> 02:02:42.990
Yeah.

02:02:42.990 --> 02:02:43.310
Yeah.

02:02:44.190 --> 02:02:46.770
And this guy was right in front of my friend who was going to fight him.

02:02:47.190 --> 02:02:51.490
He picked up steel bucket, turned around to swing it at my friend, my friend duck.

02:02:52.100 --> 02:02:53.251
I was right behind him.

02:02:53.685 --> 02:02:53.945
Oh.

02:02:53.966 --> 02:02:55.962
Got split like four, like two layers.

02:02:55.962 --> 02:02:57.376
I think I can see it on your nose a little bit there.

02:02:57.376 --> 02:03:02.115
Yeah, I got two layers of good stitches and had one of those beautiful squirting, pulsing cuts.

02:03:02.706 --> 02:03:03.076
Yeah, yeah.

02:03:03.275 --> 02:03:05.615
There was blood everywhere and I couldn't even see.

02:03:06.216 --> 02:03:12.525
And my friend who got in a fight, a big guy and pretty athletic, messed this dude up very quickly.

02:03:13.065 --> 02:03:22.310
And I You should have just been standing back farther just in case of the time I actually got the blood out of my eyes, Everybody was unconscious except for my friend.

02:03:22.671 --> 02:03:27.841
And, um, uh, basically they were like, you know, the cops come and we got to go.

02:03:28.341 --> 02:03:29.621
And we all hop in the car.

02:03:29.621 --> 02:03:31.421
I'm in the back, obviously just bleeding.

02:03:32.320 --> 02:03:33.520
And I can't even see.

02:03:34.451 --> 02:03:39.871
And the cops are pulling in right as we're pulling out and his sister's standing in there going, that's not them.

02:03:39.881 --> 02:03:40.640
They're inside.

02:03:40.911 --> 02:03:48.180
And so we get away for a little bit and then the cops start chasing us down a dirt road and we, we came to a dead end.

02:03:48.945 --> 02:03:54.345
Ended up just jumping through it into a cornfield and finally got back to the house.

02:03:54.525 --> 02:03:55.206
Oh, he didn't get caught?

02:03:55.265 --> 02:03:55.716
No.

02:03:56.166 --> 02:04:00.735
Well, then when we got there, the cops were like, We know it was you and they're like, well, it was us.

02:04:00.855 --> 02:04:01.416
We don't know.

02:04:01.626 --> 02:04:09.185
Well, I couldn't yeah I was it I was hiding in the house because I was the obvious evidence that there was a fight You didn't have to go in the trunk of the car?

02:04:09.485 --> 02:04:23.555
No, we got to the house finally quick enough and then they were just like what was us and then I'd ever came out Obviously, but that was a pretty wild time being a being a caddy back in the day was It was interesting.

02:04:23.576 --> 02:04:24.126
Yeah, I'm sure.

02:04:24.956 --> 02:04:27.756
Good thing that, well, it was only a three month experience.

02:04:27.975 --> 02:04:32.595
Yeah, could have been, could have been more glorious, but also more damaging long term.

02:04:32.725 --> 02:04:38.256
I don't know if glorious is the word I would use to describe any of the things that happened that summer.

02:04:38.256 --> 02:04:38.996
Not glorious.

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No.

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Hazardous.

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Debaucherous and hazardous.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Dematris is pretty perfect.

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That's about right.

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Well, um, if people are listening and want to get some healthy harvest oils in their life, or follow you on your social handles or anything, where do they find you?

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Uh, Healthy Harvest, non gmo.

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com is our website.

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Okay.

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Or just Healthy Harvest on Facebook, Instagram.

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Okay.

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That's our social medias.

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Um, but, uh, if they wanted to, we have contact forms and all the email, all the websites and everything if they wanted something.

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But if you're in any, if you're a restaurant or commercial producer, we do business with most of the distributors in the state.

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So talk to somebody.

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That you do business with and we'll find a way to get it to him.

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Ask for a healthy harvest.

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We'll figure it out.

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We're a block and a half north of New Buc ee's, if you're over there getting Oh, right.

02:05:27.041 --> 02:05:27.520
Oh, yeah.

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If you're over getting brisket, come get some oil.

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That's probably changed your, changed your existence a little bit, being close to that Buc ee's, huh?

02:05:35.131 --> 02:05:37.081
Changed on how we get to work.

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Right.

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Remapped our route.

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Is that settling down a little bit now or is it still mayhem?

02:05:43.905 --> 02:05:45.796
You know, it's very well designed.

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There's a lot of traffic, a lot of people going in and out.

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You know, the first Saturday I think was probably worse than opening day.

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There was cars parked, people walked for miles.

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That's what I've heard.

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Yeah, just mayhem.

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Even on opening day, we're Three blocks, four blocks, maybe in the other direction, which there's not a lot of right around there.

02:06:05.326 --> 02:06:05.445
Yeah.

02:06:05.445 --> 02:06:05.605
Yeah.

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It's just an industrial park, right?

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There was cars parked clear up to our warehouse.

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We just walked over on that Saturday.

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There were people I'm telling you to walk down, you know, there's a highway behind, well over a mile really.

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So there's cars like lined along the road.

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Every way to park a car.

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And I got, I got weak last week and I went and got a brisket sandwich.

02:06:28.685 --> 02:06:32.216
Um, Come on, be honest, you've been weak a lot of times.

02:06:32.265 --> 02:06:33.395
No, I've only been there twice.

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How was it?

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The brisket's decent.

02:06:36.655 --> 02:06:37.326
Yeah, it's pretty good.

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It's alright.

02:06:37.926 --> 02:06:38.176
Yeah.

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Really good for gas station brisket?

02:06:40.376 --> 02:06:40.966
Yeah.

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It's exceptional gas station brisket.

02:06:44.655 --> 02:06:47.905
It's pretty good, but it's not like a top end.

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Not gonna change your life.

02:06:49.445 --> 02:06:50.966
It's probably as good as It's pretty good.

02:06:50.975 --> 02:06:54.256
I mean This is probably as good as it gets.

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Pretty average for most barbecue brisket or something like that.

02:06:57.645 --> 02:06:58.395
I went there last week.

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The place is amazing and how clean it is and how, how well it functions.

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There's so many people in there, but they really know how to flow it and the traffic flows well.

02:07:08.086 --> 02:07:08.326
Yeah, cool.

02:07:08.966 --> 02:07:11.155
Yep, so nothing bad to say about Buc ee's.

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Well, last week when I went there, it was like 10 a.

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m., so getting closer to lunch.

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And I thought, wow, this place is pretty empty.

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I mean, there's cars in the parking lot and everything, but it's not like Traffic's backed up like it normally is and I went inside and I was like this place is freaking full pretty busy But I think I waited two minutes to check out they like he's saying they do a really they've designed it Well, yeah, cool.

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They're smart about every five minutes.

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You hear him holler Brisket on the cutting table.

02:07:37.336 --> 02:07:37.685
Yeah.

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Chop it up.

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Throw another one on.

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Brisket.

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They cut them up fast.

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I haven't been down yet, but I guess I should.

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Well, we got a commercial for Bucky's Inn at the end of this one, so.

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Sorry about that.

02:07:47.746 --> 02:07:48.326
No, it's good.

02:07:48.395 --> 02:07:49.025
I mean, why not?

02:07:49.036 --> 02:07:51.555
They're not, well, if they, if you can get them to pay me, that would be great.

02:07:51.615 --> 02:07:51.975
Okay.

02:07:52.671 --> 02:07:53.020
Yeah.

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I'll try.

02:07:54.591 --> 02:07:54.730
Awesome.

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Let me know.

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We'll talk.

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It's negotiable.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Guys, thanks for being here.

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Really enjoyed the conversation.

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Hope you did.

02:08:00.501 --> 02:08:00.831
Thank you.

02:08:00.831 --> 02:08:01.541
Yeah, we did.

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I enjoyed it.

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We'll have you, uh, on the radar again one of these days.

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Sounds good.

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Godspeed.