BONUS EPISODE | Aaron Everitt & Emerson Everitt join The LoCo Experience to talk Election 2024! - Live during the Election Coverage!

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Welcome to the Low Cove Experience Podcast.

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welcome back to the loco experience podcast.

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I'm here right now with a lonely hipster and, uh, cool.

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Kennedy garbed individual, Mr.

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Aaron Everett.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, we're gonna try to figure out how to get a microphone set up to allow live spaces interactions.

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Um, but in the meantime, Glenn, I'm gonna go ahead and, uh, ask you to Not speak yet, and I'll let people in if they want to come in later.

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Yeah, cool.

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All right.

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Thanks.

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Well, Aaron Why don't you just introduce yourself and Emerson a little bit talk about your journey?

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Yeah for sure and I'll get the other microphone out Okay, sounds good.

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Well, so Yeah, you know, this is interesting.

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I haven't done a spaces before I've never hosted one.

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So this is kind of fun Kurt and I go way back.

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We're We're friends.

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Gosh, I want to say now Getting close to 16 or 17 years, Kurt, when I was building houses years ago, Kurt was my banker.

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And, um, and we just got to be good, close friends and kind of realized we had, uh, some very close connections, both in just the way we thought about life and, but also just, uh, what we thought about small business and our town and, um, Kurt's kind of single handedly, uh, One of the most valuable people in relationship to small business in Fort Collins just Uh very wants to see that succeed wants to see that do stuff So he does a podcast called the loco experience, which is really a great one He kind of does long form conversations with small business people in colorado, which I think is uh, just It's just, they're always fascinating shows to, to listen to.

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You can get it on Spotify or, or Apple Podcast.

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But we've gone way back and done a lot of different things.

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And so he said, well, you know, it'd be fun to do election night together and kind of see how things turn out.

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And, um, and so, yeah, we, we decided this, we would do this one and I thought it'd be fun to do a live spaces.

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So we're figuring some technical stuff out and trying to figure out how to make it work.

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But, um, you know, I, my journey to Kennedy starts probably, um, What?

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What are you doing?

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I would say, I put this in one of the last essays that I did, my journey to Kennedy started in 2020 when, um, you know, I thought Trump, In 2016 was actually, uh, I thought it was actually a really good presidency.

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Somebody kind of jokingly, I mean, it was Tucker or somebody tonight was jokingly saying he was the best president of the 21st century, which doesn't, it's not long company to get involved with.

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They're all sort of not great presidents.

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If you look at who they are, Bush and, uh, and, and Obama, and then moving into Trump and then Biden.

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So you don't have a long list of people to be involved with.

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But I, I got really curious with the Liberty Movement in 08 with Ron Paul.

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I thought he was awesome.

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I thought he was a really significant, uh, person in relationship to talking about the individual rights and freedom and liberty.

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And I just, I was very involved in his, uh, kind of his initial run in the primaries that didn't think he was going to win, uh, didn't think America was in the mood for that.

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And at the time the Republican party was.

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A very war mongery sort of place.

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And so, uh, you know, it just, it made sense that it was going to be one of those situations that it wasn't probably going to work out.

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But I did love Ron Paul.

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Thought he was a really fantastic person.

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We, Trump was good.

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I thought he was a good president.

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I, I, I wasn't, uh, I didn't love his tactics and I certainly didn't love sort of the bombastic, uh, Aspects of who he was.

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And so I, I wasn't a huge fan in just in relationship to him as a person, but I've always kind of said, you don't, you're not voting for a Valentine, you're voting for policy.

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And, and I thought, uh, generally speaking, Trump, Trump was better, um, kind of all the way around, but all that said, uh, 2020 shows up and COVID happens.

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And I just watched a man get totally rolled.

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Uh, by the bureaucratic state in a way that I hadn't really seen.

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I mean, I, they came pretty hard after him.

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I thought, uh, the, the stuff with Fauci and some of the other stuff was just, as much as it was, uh, you know, the bureaucratic state taking control of the government.

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I thought there was something else more there too, in terms of just their ability.

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They didn't think they were going to beat him fair in a fair election.

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And then I thought they felt like they needed to get him out of there.

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And I think, um, I think that's been the case.

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I don't think, I don't think the state likes Trump.

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I think they don't like the fact that he's an outsider.

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I don't think they like that he hasn't come from government.

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And if you really think about the number of presidents we've had, Trump is, like, one of the only people that's ever come from the private sector to be president.

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Everybody else is either a politician or a general.

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And, um, and that's been very true the 20th century, and I think, um, pretty clear that, uh, all in all, that's just been a really, uh, consistent piece of who he, who he is and what's going on there.

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It's, they don't like him for that.

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And they don't like that he's, uh, that person.

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So, but in 2020, I got really disappointed.

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My family went through some pretty strong struggles, uh, with COVID.

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I got four teenage kids.

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We're all locked in our houses.

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Um, I didn't like the people.

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Some people were called essential.

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I didn't like that.

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Some people were, uh, you know, that we, there were just arbitrary rules.

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If you walked into a restaurant with your mask on, you were okay, but you could sit down and take your mask off.

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It was all, it was all illusionary nonsense, but put your mask on, but put your bag, bet you go to the bathroom.

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You know, it was just, it was plexiglass everywhere for no reason and a huge burden on small business.

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We talked about that so many times during the podcast during that time, you know, there was just It was just an undue burden on the American people and in so many ways.

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And so I got frustrated with Trump and I.

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You know, my wife is a researcher by nature, uh, that's like her main thing.

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She fell deep into podcast land and got way into the Dark Horse podcast and some of the other stuff that we're really asking good questions about medical freedom.

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She found Children's Health Defense during that time and, um, that's how we found Kennedy.

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And I just got really enamored with him as a candidate before he was a candidate.

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I got enamored with him for his sort of conviction to stay.

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Really firm about, uh, what he thought and what he thought about, um, the whole, you know, nonsense and just being convicted about, Hey, the constitution is written for hard times.

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It's not written for easy times.

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I've always loved that line of his.

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I think it's, uh, it was great.

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And then when he announced he was going to run for president, I actually said, I will absolutely switch and try to make him become a Democrat.

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I'll become a Democrat, which I've never been.

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If I need to, to try to help him win the primary, I knew Joe Biden's cognitive situation was not good.

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Yeah, I think we all knew that back in 2020.

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Yeah, we're like, we're hiding him in the basement, hiding in the basement.

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He's not coming out.

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We all know he's not in a good situation.

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How does he get any better over four years?

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You'd see him stumbling over the chair, you know, and unfortunately to the man, honestly, I don't, I don't really have never really appreciated Joe Biden for a lot of things.

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He's never seen a war.

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He doesn't like, I think it really evidences the, the Corruption of the bureaucracy, you know, when, when, when they, there was a funny video I saw today that replaced, uh, democracy with bureaucracy.

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They're trying to destroy our bureaucracy and we're not going to let them.

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And that was what knocked Kennedy out of the democratic primary is just the power machine.

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And it would have been so much better for them if they just had a primary, like a for realsie one and said, Joe's.

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Yeah.

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We're going to have a primary.

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And I think we would have been in a much better situation, uh, you know, and I said it all along.

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If Kennedy was the Democratic nominee and Trump was the nominee for the Republican Party, we could have an honest contest about what would be policy associated with the United States.

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And I thought that was a really important piece of it.

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So that's why I got involved with it.

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I thought I started writing, uh, I wrote an article for Free the People, which is a wonderful libertarian type of online deal about a declaration driven for RF, uh, declaration driven argument for RFK.

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I thought he was awesome and I was in.

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And I, you know, from that, kind of that moment on, I got very involved in the campaign.

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I never, um, I told the campaign, and I, I was approached by them a number of times in terms of could I do more video stuff for them or could I do more stuff?

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And I, I turned down all of their offers in terms of being paid for.

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You didn't get paid for all that work?

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Never.

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Didn't want it.

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Uh, felt like it was something that was really important.

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Yeah.

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I wanted to say what I wanted to say.

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I didn't want to be, uh, told necessarily what to say.

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Cause I wanted to give at least an honest assessment from somebody who was a fan or an advocate of the campaign.

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What is happening in the campaign.

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And so I didn't really ever want to, if there were things that he was going to say that I didn't like, I was going to be able to say that.

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Weirdly, all the way along, there were never, there were never things that he said that I didn't actually care for.

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I thought they were articulate positions.

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I thought most of the time, even if I didn't agree fully on things, Pro life person, believer.

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Even if there were things that I didn't think I fully agreed with in relationship to what his position was, I could accept the position that he had because it was a thought out.

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It was a pragmatic, uh, position.

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And it was practical.

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And he had people around him that disagreed with him.

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I mean, he had Angela Stanton King involved in the campaign.

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She's, uh, Like in Atlanta with a house trying to save black babies.

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So that's her whole motive, you know?

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So I think that's some stuff that I was really pleased with in, in relationship to him.

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And I would just, uh, was all in all the way.

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And especially when it was an independent thing, then it was, I was here trying to get people's signature.

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I came to your office to get signatures.

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Um, well, and, and, uh, I think it was interesting how, as, as you got more and more invested in the Kennedy cause, Um, I would say your videos, without them paying you, got more and more focused on him and then wrapped around that.

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And I think they became slightly less effective, at least for me.

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I was really into the, you know, taxation, inflation, freedom of speech, those kind of really topical things.

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And then when I, when I felt like I was being led to the river, I was like, I don't know, you know, and, and, and that doesn't mean I was opposed to.

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No, no, it just meant, you know, it felt more propagandal and it was, I think at this point as I look back, but given a chance to create propaganda and at least looking back on it now, I think, um, you know, there were things that I, When I, when I say this, it was educational propaganda.

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Exactly.

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And I think, you know, um, but, but here's what I, what I would say about that is that as I saw him try to analyze the positions, they were the positions I was willing to take too.

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And so it became really easy to just say, actually.

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If we're going to talk presidential politics, here's somebody saying something that needs to be in the conversation.

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Yeah.

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And when I, when I think if I would make an analysis, if Trump wins, which I think they will, Polly Markham says 79 percent right now.

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He moved past the Elon Musk prediction.

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So the, uh, the prophecy, which was 69, 420 classic, uh, Elon Musk deal.

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But when, when he's, I think when he started talking and saying the things that he was saying now, all of the sudden, if I think now the analysis will be both Kennedy brought independence to this race to help win.

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And I think the other thing is, is the conversation has dramatically changed.

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Oh, so much more focused on the budget.

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So much more focused on health and healthcare reform.

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It's truly, it's truly stunning.

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And if you really look at the campaign, what Trump actually had to chase in many ways, he had to go to the Libertarian convention.

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Yeah.

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Like, oh yeah.

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He realized that he had to build a coalition to have a chance against the, the War machine.

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Yeah.

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He needed, needed to talk about machine funding, about, he needed to talk about Bitcoin, he needed to talk about, but Kennedy was the one that was leading that.

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Mm-Hmm.

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He really was.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He really was the one talking about those things.

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He was the one talking about war Ukraine.

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It was kind of like nato, kind of like Kamala has copied Trump on all of these Yes.

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Policy things like Trump kind of followed Kennedy in a lot of the.

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Absolutely.

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And I, and I think Kennedy has led the edge on that.

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And I think that's really the best thing that could have happened for America at the end of the day.

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Oh yeah.

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For him to influence the Trump presidency.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it would almost be better than if he'd won the Democratic nomination and had a Republican.

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Correct.

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House and Senate.

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You know, he can actually make more difference this way, potentially.

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I think if you make an empirical analysis, you know, just pragmatically about what happens in American politics, the truth is we get two parties.

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I mean, it, I wish, I wish that was different and maybe one day it will.

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Maybe.

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Well, the one party will win.

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Crumble another one tickets place like it's happened.

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Yeah, you may see that bull moose, whatever Yeah, you may see the wig party sort of disappearing that kind of stuff But something will the void is there and that really the system works with the that's how Congress works.

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It's how the Senate works It's how you really have these opposition and we really have to acknowledge that the the funding system is Wackadoodle crazy pants right now with, you know, in 2020 Zuckerberg pumped 400 million in Soros has pumped, I don't know how many hundreds of millions in, but also now, you know, Elon has not just pump money and he's like, I mean, yeah, he's like, where's your dark mega hats jumping up and down like a goofy autistic, uh, genius and God bless him.

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That goofy autistic genius.

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He tipped it.

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Well, you can't this election.

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Yeah.

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I don't think you could diminish the influence of X.

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I think it's totally significant.

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I think you can't diminish the influence of Kennedy.

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Uh, that's significant, more significant than I think most people will ever give it credit for at least on the punditry tonight, you may, uh, you may see some of that, but I think what's really great.

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And what I've actually come around on is watching Trump actually.

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Empower these people to speak as they wish the Tulsi Gabbard's the RFK's the Vivek's He has empowered them to speak On his behalf.

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It's the it may be one of the more brilliant political moves of all time too Which is that it became clear that we were electing a coalition of people a big tent was formed like Yes, we were not he was already talking about he was already talking about a transition team He was already talking about a cabinet He was already talking about these are the people that I want involved around here.

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I'm trying to remember the timeline when did rfk uh Effectively drop out and endorse Trump was that after the first assassination attempt?

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It was August 23rd So you had that you had it so really interesting if you go back and look at because Elon was on board right away He's like after that first attempt.

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He's like, okay, fuck this.

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They're trying to kill the Like, this is not free speech when they're trying to shoot him while he's talking.

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This is it.

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So you have, you have this, uh, yeah, you have the, this conversation around the VP at that point too, actually had, had kind of preceded that about, and actually Kennedy was in that conversation.

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Yeah.

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I know that there was a conversation, uh, you know, Kennedy wasn't ready for it.

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I don't think he was ready to do it.

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I have talked to different staff members along the way that we're in the Kennedy campaign.

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Well, and that's what Kennedy's point was, which is like, I know the vice presidency, which is they can lock me in my house and I can't do anything.

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And so he didn't want to be in that position.

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And there were people on the campaign though, that were like, this is a good move.

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You should do this.

00:16:57.240 --> 00:16:57.600
I'm sure.

00:16:57.884 --> 00:17:05.295
And I think, you know, if we look back all the way through the different stories, all the way through it, Jessica Reed Krause, who's awesome, uh, author at House and Habit.

00:17:05.295 --> 00:17:09.255
If people ever get a chance to read her stuff on sub sub stack, it's great.

00:17:09.625 --> 00:17:12.464
Uh, she and link Lauren really trailed the campaign around it.

00:17:12.535 --> 00:17:23.680
Link was actually on staff at Kennedy and then he kind of put the, The ball in motion to talk about having a conversation around the VP, and then went over to Trump's campaign when Kennedy said no.

00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:24.019
Gotcha.

00:17:24.019 --> 00:17:24.369
Gotcha.

00:17:24.369 --> 00:17:26.309
So, it all was there.

00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:29.740
You know, these conversations were all sort of hat percolating.

00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:34.910
He says no, JD Vance becomes the VP, then the assassination attempt.

00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:34.950
Yup.

00:17:36.390 --> 00:17:37.289
And it's all right in there.

00:17:37.289 --> 00:17:39.029
And maybe the assassination attempt was first.

00:17:39.029 --> 00:17:40.289
I think that was first, but.

00:17:40.625 --> 00:17:43.835
But then Nicole Shanahan really spilled the beans on a podcast.

00:17:44.194 --> 00:17:46.224
And so the week leading up to the 23rd.

00:17:46.224 --> 00:17:46.984
that was intentional?

00:17:47.035 --> 00:17:47.505
Oh yeah.

00:17:47.545 --> 00:17:48.375
A hundred percent.

00:17:48.375 --> 00:17:48.615
Yeah.

00:17:48.644 --> 00:17:51.934
Why her instead of, uh, Bobby delivering that message?

00:17:52.404 --> 00:17:53.984
I think that was a, let's travel.

00:17:54.095 --> 00:17:55.825
Float the waters a little bit.

00:17:55.865 --> 00:18:03.045
There was a really excellent article from a staffer on Substack that talked about, um, some of the things that, that were going on.

00:18:03.414 --> 00:18:07.315
And really after the first assassination attempt, the real truth of the whole thing is the money dried up.

00:18:08.305 --> 00:18:13.714
The people that were on the fence about the whole situation moved to Trump and the money dried up.

00:18:13.815 --> 00:18:16.305
They're like realistically This is it.

00:18:16.434 --> 00:18:26.934
I mean, and so I think her going out and having that conversation, and this was in the article to her going out and having that conversation was to test what was going to happen with the donors.

00:18:26.984 --> 00:18:32.765
You know, if they got a reaction to that and we're like, no, no, no, you can't do this.

00:18:32.765 --> 00:18:33.525
What have we done?

00:18:34.015 --> 00:18:38.954
I think there would have been, you know, maybe some different thinking, but it was, there was a tribal.

00:18:38.984 --> 00:18:42.285
It was certainly a tribal and the donors kind of were like, This is a good idea.

00:18:42.285 --> 00:18:42.914
Alright, we're on board.

00:18:43.375 --> 00:18:44.765
Let's, let's make this happen.

00:18:44.775 --> 00:18:45.345
We can actually ship this.

00:18:45.345 --> 00:18:48.269
They might not donate to Trump, but at least they're Yeah.

00:18:48.269 --> 00:18:49.339
On board for shifting teams.

00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:50.400
We can figure this out.

00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:50.470
Yeah.

00:18:50.470 --> 00:18:51.710
And so I, I think that's what happened.

00:18:51.710 --> 00:19:00.190
And really from the 23rd on, and really on the 23rd when it happened, you know, and then he goes out and has this tremendous reception at the Trump rally in Glendale or in Arizona.

00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:00.640
Right.

00:19:00.670 --> 00:19:02.450
Fireworks and is incredible.

00:19:03.019 --> 00:19:05.109
Really one of the more epic moments in politics.

00:19:05.130 --> 00:19:05.819
Oh, for sure.

00:19:06.059 --> 00:19:06.809
A hundred percent.

00:19:06.819 --> 00:19:09.420
Like the crowd's reaction to.

00:19:10.035 --> 00:19:11.265
Rfk jr.

00:19:11.295 --> 00:19:17.575
Coming out on that stage was like, I can't imagine a more welcoming moment.

00:19:17.615 --> 00:19:22.134
You're like, this was my opponent a week ago, two days ago, two hours ago.

00:19:22.805 --> 00:19:23.154
Yes.

00:19:23.244 --> 00:19:24.894
You know, it was touching.

00:19:24.904 --> 00:19:31.634
And, um, you know, I, in that same article and I'll have to figure out, we'll, I'll try to see if I can find it so I can quote it later on as the podcast goes on.

00:19:31.634 --> 00:19:57.230
But, um, you know, he talked about, Look, when they played hero by, by Foo Fighters, he's like, we couldn't have afforded the lawsuit to play the song, you know, and that was real, that there was a real, there was a reality to the fact that even though Kennedy was doing really well, uh, Emerson, who's here with us, he went, we went down and got to meet RFK in Denver and we get to go to one of the largest rallies that Kennedy had.

00:19:57.230 --> 00:19:58.009
And it was awesome.

00:19:58.039 --> 00:19:59.579
It was really beautiful.

00:19:59.740 --> 00:20:00.230
Amazing.

00:20:00.869 --> 00:20:03.174
But we're talking about a Couple thousand people, right?

00:20:03.904 --> 00:20:10.974
We go into a, an arena of 17, 000 you know, Madison Square Garden, 30, 000 people, right?

00:20:11.625 --> 00:20:12.744
It's just a different ballgame.

00:20:12.805 --> 00:20:18.384
And it was, it was evident and recognizable that what the decision was, was actually a really wise one.

00:20:18.424 --> 00:20:24.204
I still think, uh, and I've said this a number of times, I think it will go down as one of the more noble decisions in politics.

00:20:24.529 --> 00:20:25.609
Pretty much ever.

00:20:26.099 --> 00:20:27.380
Uh, you don't see that happen.

00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:30.890
You see a lot of people stick it out till the very last and cause trouble.

00:20:30.930 --> 00:20:33.140
And you know, I'm, I can do this.

00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:34.079
I can do this.

00:20:34.619 --> 00:20:53.144
I, That the setting it down and, and, and Glenn has pointed this out to me before this, I, this wonderful line that Kennedy said at the end of his sort of, you know, suspension speech, which was, we have to love our children more than we hate each other, which is a lovely line.

00:20:53.144 --> 00:20:56.805
And actually Glenn had pointed out, it came from Golda Meir in Israel.

00:20:56.805 --> 00:21:00.335
That was one of her lines about sort of peace in Israel.

00:21:00.335 --> 00:21:03.480
What she had said was that.

00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:06.799
Glenn, we, uh, we actually can't hear you on the mics.

00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.519
We weren't able to get that set up, but we could interact with that.

00:21:09.690 --> 00:21:20.470
Um, but, uh, you know, that was that, that moment, at least in the speech was, um, it was just profound, right?

00:21:20.470 --> 00:21:26.440
It was just one of those moments where you looked at it and said, um, yeah, I think this is noble as to what he did.

00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.019
Emerson, I want to bring you into the conversation here.

00:21:29.019 --> 00:21:29.839
Can we meet you now?

00:21:29.910 --> 00:21:30.329
Sure.

00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:37.585
Uh, so, uh, aside from being, uh, Tech expert and a podcast producer.

00:21:37.654 --> 00:21:41.384
Uh, Oh, you've been following this race a little bit though.

00:21:41.674 --> 00:21:42.105
Yeah.

00:21:42.134 --> 00:21:45.734
Um, I've been watching kind of from the sidelines.

00:21:45.974 --> 00:21:49.734
I can't vote, so it's less compelling.

00:21:49.845 --> 00:21:50.174
Right.

00:21:50.394 --> 00:21:53.654
I mean, um, it's also less compelling.

00:21:53.805 --> 00:21:56.345
Like I know Colorado is going to be blue.

00:21:56.535 --> 00:21:56.845
Sure.

00:21:56.894 --> 00:22:02.184
So even if I did want to vote blue, to me, it doesn't have a whole lot of impact.

00:22:02.295 --> 00:22:02.724
Totally.

00:22:02.825 --> 00:22:05.049
Um, Yeah.

00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.150
Uh, I've been watching from the sidelines.

00:22:07.609 --> 00:22:09.349
Talk to me about, I guess, the process.

00:22:09.349 --> 00:22:27.970
Like, what are the things that, um, like, aside from, from RFK getting kind of bounced out of the Democratic primary process, which I thought was a serious mistake on the party's part, but then what, after that first debate, when Biden was out, and it was like, who's going to be in?

00:22:27.970 --> 00:22:28.930
Is it going to be Kamala?

00:22:28.940 --> 00:22:31.019
And then like, Beep boop boop boop boop.

00:22:31.579 --> 00:22:32.789
Hey, it's Kabbalah everybody.

00:22:33.049 --> 00:22:34.880
Um, what do you think about that?

00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:45.184
Well, I think it's a little dirty how they took Literally, they, they took Biden and overnight it was Kamala and he's like gone.

00:22:45.305 --> 00:22:45.585
I mean.

00:22:46.275 --> 00:22:47.115
But he's still the president.

00:22:47.224 --> 00:22:47.954
He's still the president.

00:22:47.974 --> 00:22:48.325
But he's.

00:22:48.805 --> 00:22:49.375
Not.

00:22:49.724 --> 00:22:51.904
Have you seen much of him lately?

00:22:51.914 --> 00:22:53.134
He's very gone.

00:22:53.575 --> 00:22:54.174
Um.

00:22:54.394 --> 00:22:56.134
I thought that was kind of dirty.

00:22:56.144 --> 00:23:01.934
Also, not having a democratic primary was really, is just, it's not for democracy.

00:23:02.184 --> 00:23:02.704
Um.

00:23:04.204 --> 00:23:07.285
You can't just say, well, this is who we want.

00:23:07.345 --> 00:23:10.144
So everybody else wants the same person, right?

00:23:10.144 --> 00:23:10.414
Yeah.

00:23:10.414 --> 00:23:10.734
Yeah.

00:23:10.785 --> 00:23:13.474
Um, it's just not fair, you know?

00:23:13.654 --> 00:23:22.355
I mean, even the Republican party had a primary, but it, it was a landslide, but it was still, they held the primary.

00:23:22.375 --> 00:23:22.714
Yeah.

00:23:22.755 --> 00:23:23.134
Yeah.

00:23:23.134 --> 00:23:24.255
And I thought it was kind of cool.

00:23:25.154 --> 00:23:29.025
Frankly, kind of pussy for Trump not to Um, have a debate.

00:23:29.265 --> 00:23:30.704
You No, he should have done, he should've done the debates.

00:23:30.704 --> 00:23:33.255
You know, that's just kind of, uh, didn't he do Tucker Carlson?

00:23:33.285 --> 00:23:42.420
Well, he did, and you know, he, you know, and probably pragmatically speaking, he didn't have anything to gain by doing those, you know, he, he, he had 90% of the vote, right.

00:23:43.234 --> 00:23:45.545
All it was gonna be was a bunch of arrows coming at him.

00:23:45.545 --> 00:23:50.134
So I understand why he didn't do it, but at the time I was like, you come on, come on.

00:23:50.134 --> 00:23:50.914
Do this thing.

00:23:51.275 --> 00:24:00.785
But yeah, you know, you just, you bring up an interesting point about the sort of what I think they got themselves pigeonholed into, which was they couldn't run anybody but her because of the money.

00:24:00.904 --> 00:24:01.204
Right.

00:24:01.355 --> 00:24:01.984
You know, they, yeah.

00:24:02.015 --> 00:24:03.095
She was on the ticket.

00:24:03.529 --> 00:24:16.289
So that, so the campaign rules sort of led them into this place where this is what it was, which all went back to the fact that they just were not interested in having Bobby Kennedy on the stage ever at any point for any moment of the right.

00:24:16.309 --> 00:24:17.650
They were not interested in that.

00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:19.240
They have no, they wanted him nowhere.

00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:19.430
Right.

00:24:19.430 --> 00:24:26.279
If it was just, if it was Shapiro or some other candidates to replace Biden on a ticket, they'd have been up for that.

00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:26.329
But.

00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:34.670
Well, if they let, if they let anybody in, Dean or any of the other guys that were going to try to run, they had to let Kennedy on that stage because he was very popular.

00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:35.250
Yeah.

00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:36.549
And they weren't going to let it happen.

00:24:36.650 --> 00:24:37.890
Sorry, what were you going to say Emerson?

00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:44.059
Oh, I was just going to say, yeah, to his point, um, they're not letting like Bernie or anybody on there.

00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:44.529
Right.

00:24:44.690 --> 00:24:45.930
It's, it's literally just.

00:24:46.250 --> 00:24:51.589
Kamala, we're done, which is just, it's so hypocritical to say we're for democracy.

00:24:51.930 --> 00:24:55.380
Trump's going to crush democracy, but look away.

00:24:55.380 --> 00:24:59.450
We can only save democracy by suspending democracy momentarily, temporarily.

00:25:00.150 --> 00:25:01.470
This is a, this is interesting.

00:25:01.470 --> 00:25:04.509
Glenn just sent this and this, we'll do it this way through the podcast.

00:25:05.490 --> 00:25:07.769
Glenn just sent a sort of a Kennedy cohort.

00:25:07.769 --> 00:25:09.920
This came from American values and I'd, I'd seen this.

00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:14.900
This is actually the influence that the Kennedy folks are having on the election.

00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:22.565
Um, you know, in relationship to where he went, so Kennedy cohort gives Trump a big bump after campaign suspension.

00:25:22.825 --> 00:25:35.315
And this was really something that American values, which was the super pack that was supporting Kennedy, uh, what they kind of went, this is one of the things they, they put out and said, look, from our polling, this is what we're seeing, and he gave.

00:25:35.724 --> 00:25:41.994
He gave a 20 point bump of Kennedy supporters that that bump became 20 percent in Arizona.

00:25:42.434 --> 00:25:58.605
It became plus 20 in Georgia, like he's swinging this in such a man, Kennedy, like Kennedy's addition to the Trump team also made it that much more impactful for Tulsi to have her voice heard for Elon to have his voice heard.

00:25:58.884 --> 00:26:02.755
He, Michigan was one of the best states Kennedy was, was doing well.

00:26:02.755 --> 00:26:05.244
And he was, he was actually polling really, really well in Michigan.

00:26:05.244 --> 00:26:08.585
It was almost 25 percent in Michigan, 27 percent in some of the polls.

00:26:09.634 --> 00:26:15.575
He, his swing gave Trump plus 39 in, in that situation.

00:26:15.575 --> 00:26:21.464
So to say that he didn't have a dramatic impact on this deal, uh, would be a very big understatement.

00:26:21.464 --> 00:26:36.309
And I think, Making an analysis back that that will be the difference maker when you see Georgia tonight and you see the difference between 2020 and 2024, you have a 20 point swing in independent voters, right?

00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.940
So plus nine in 2020 for Biden.

00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:45.019
Now, Plus 11 for Trump in independent voters in Georgia tonight, at least in election and exit polling.

00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:51.930
I want to see some exit polling for one of my predictions is like the black male vote is going to be a really big deal for Trump, that gangsta.

00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:57.289
Um, and I'm looking at, uh, and I haven't gotten to that deep, but maybe you can, young Jamie Emerson.

00:26:58.559 --> 00:26:58.630
That's right.

00:26:58.630 --> 00:26:59.390
He's our Jamie, yes.

00:26:59.440 --> 00:26:59.910
Tatas.

00:27:01.585 --> 00:27:04.194
So, um, yeah, that would be an interesting one to look at.

00:27:04.194 --> 00:27:18.285
Georgia is 80 percent reporting and 52, 47 right now, North Carolina is 66 and at 52, 47, Virginia leaning Trump with 61 percent reporting 50 to 48.

00:27:18.375 --> 00:27:19.315
Virginia is leaning.

00:27:19.414 --> 00:27:20.174
Yeah.

00:27:20.315 --> 00:27:20.525
No.

00:27:20.525 --> 00:27:20.704
Yeah.

00:27:20.704 --> 00:27:22.855
The Polly market's looking like a landslide now.

00:27:22.894 --> 00:27:23.244
Kind of.

00:27:23.295 --> 00:27:24.953
It's 80, 84.

00:27:24.953 --> 00:27:26.454
9 percent It looks like Pennsylvania is as well.

00:27:26.454 --> 00:27:26.494
Yeah.

00:27:26.494 --> 00:27:26.515
Yeah.

00:27:26.855 --> 00:27:27.884
Is that what I'm seeing?

00:27:28.075 --> 00:27:30.085
Uh, Pennsylvania, it just We're gonna call it tonight.

00:27:30.085 --> 00:27:31.204
You think we're gonna call it tonight?

00:27:31.204 --> 00:27:32.994
Boy, wouldn't that be something else if it did?

00:27:33.005 --> 00:27:33.634
That'd be nice.

00:27:33.644 --> 00:27:34.214
It'd be really nice.

00:27:34.244 --> 00:27:37.365
It looks like Maine is Because we're staying online until this election is over.

00:27:38.194 --> 00:27:41.035
Oh, and Glenn, just for for your ears especially.

00:27:41.414 --> 00:27:48.045
My, my fourth microphone is in my mobile podcast, studio Ambulance, 1989, Ford Ambulance Camper.

00:27:48.545 --> 00:27:52.204
And so I'm unable to figure out a way unless we steal Emerson's microphone.

00:27:52.204 --> 00:27:53.377
But that's, we could do that.

00:27:53.377 --> 00:27:56.555
I mean, we could, what we could do is, uh, if there, how many people are in the space actually?

00:27:56.674 --> 00:27:57.220
Well, there's idea.

00:27:57.924 --> 00:27:58.884
There's not that many.

00:27:58.974 --> 00:28:02.259
Okay, well, when we get more, maybe then we can do that.

00:28:02.259 --> 00:28:02.900
Yeah, I could.

00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.650
If, if you have it on your phone or something, I can hold it up to them.

00:28:06.670 --> 00:28:12.950
Oh, actually, um, yeah, I could, I could join the space on my phone and put it over there and you could be our microphone handler.

00:28:12.950 --> 00:28:15.170
Might be a little bit of a delay, but we'll see how it happens.

00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:19.210
Yeah, I've opened to the, I mean, this is already a shit show.

00:28:21.605 --> 00:28:23.144
Well, we didn't know what we were going to get into.

00:28:23.744 --> 00:28:31.484
So, Kurt, I want to, just for people to get a sense from your perspective, where, you know, where are you coming from on this, in this particular election?

00:28:31.484 --> 00:28:34.015
Like, we, we've talked about RFK a number of times in the podcast.

00:28:34.184 --> 00:28:34.805
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:34.994 --> 00:28:35.625
Where are you coming from?

00:28:35.694 --> 00:29:11.934
Um, You know, I'm, I, I actually, first time Trump voter, um, this election, I, uh, voted for, like, like Glenn, I voted for Gary Johnson in, uh, 2016, and 2020, I, um, you know, like you, I was just really disappointed by the way Trump handled those first six months, and so I cast my vote with what I thought was the biggest protest vote, I, I thought the way, Biden handled the process and the whole hanky panky with elections and social media manipulation and stuff was Tragic.

00:29:11.974 --> 00:29:14.759
Yep And I voted for Kanye West.

00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:15.369
Nice.

00:29:15.730 --> 00:29:16.059
Perfect.

00:29:16.109 --> 00:29:22.059
And so, you know, mostly because I knew that was like a protest vote.

00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:23.730
Even more than the Libertarian.

00:29:23.789 --> 00:29:24.069
Yeah.

00:29:24.410 --> 00:29:25.069
Um.

00:29:25.390 --> 00:29:27.279
Which we have the luxury of here in Colorado.

00:29:27.380 --> 00:29:28.946
Because you know it ain't going to make any difference whatsoever.

00:29:28.946 --> 00:29:29.819
We won't make any difference.

00:29:29.819 --> 00:29:30.059
Right.

00:29:30.309 --> 00:29:30.750
Totally.

00:29:31.375 --> 00:29:31.785
It's going to be what it is.

00:29:31.815 --> 00:29:50.355
But I've always been a more conservative leaning, I voted Libertarian a lot, you know, I voted for Perot with my first vote and have voted, you know, a short line on those and probably three out of four local candidates I vote Republican for, you know, in the Colorado vote.

00:29:50.355 --> 00:29:50.619
Yeah.

00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:56.259
Realm, if you will, I got a, I got a Benny Aste sign for county commissioner sign in my front yard.

00:29:56.869 --> 00:29:57.690
Uncle Benny.

00:29:57.730 --> 00:29:58.359
Uncle Benny.

00:29:58.380 --> 00:29:58.579
Yeah.

00:29:58.579 --> 00:30:00.140
He got another ballot too.

00:30:00.150 --> 00:30:02.740
That was a little bit interesting how he was able to do that.

00:30:02.740 --> 00:30:04.180
I might've swung the election for him.

00:30:04.180 --> 00:30:05.099
I won't be surprised.

00:30:05.529 --> 00:30:07.769
Well, people know that much more than they know his name.

00:30:08.190 --> 00:30:08.640
Totally.

00:30:08.890 --> 00:30:09.170
100%.

00:30:09.170 --> 00:30:10.160
Uncle Benny's is a big deal around here.

00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:10.329
Yeah.

00:30:10.329 --> 00:30:10.609
Yeah.

00:30:10.990 --> 00:30:17.539
Um, so what did you think about the 2024 election and in terms of how we're getting to where we're getting to tonight?

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.500
Yeah, I mean, I kind of like you reviewed it.

00:30:20.539 --> 00:30:43.875
I mean, the, the The coalition the building of a we the people kind of thing, you know Certainly, I've I haven't watched network TV in a long time So I wasn't like a Tucker Carlson fan or anything But I did tune in for some of his podcasts when he came on like your wife I was a follower of the dark horse podcast, which is really classical liberalism.

00:30:44.025 --> 00:30:54.154
Yep You know, and that's kind of the foundation and whether you call yourself a Democrat or a Republican, if you call yourself a classical liberal, I think that you're a thinking person, right?

00:30:54.595 --> 00:30:58.994
You know, but, but that's become so much more different than a liberal liberal, right?

00:30:59.214 --> 00:30:59.335
Yeah.

00:30:59.634 --> 00:31:01.575
The name means almost nothing.

00:31:01.585 --> 00:31:02.174
Yeah.

00:31:02.224 --> 00:31:02.674
Yeah.

00:31:02.734 --> 00:31:15.345
And so, you know, I, I'm a Christian, uh, like, like you and, and I also, you know, wrote a blog, you know, the 10 principles for your best good.

00:31:15.625 --> 00:31:15.904
Yeah.

00:31:15.994 --> 00:31:21.174
Instead of like the, you know, the 10 commandments because commandment sounds really harsh and whatever.

00:31:21.174 --> 00:31:21.464
Right.

00:31:22.035 --> 00:31:26.384
Um, but you know, I think that, I think that the U.

00:31:26.384 --> 00:31:26.644
S.

00:31:27.894 --> 00:31:38.464
Even for the gays and the lesbians and the freaky people, the US would be a better country with a conservative, Christian oriented stance on governance.

00:31:38.894 --> 00:31:39.305
Agreed.

00:31:39.375 --> 00:31:56.900
And so that's generally the way my votes flow, is for kind of maximum liberty and maximum trust, but also, um, That, that notion of let everybody be in the tent and be friends together, you know, I have a lot of diversity in my friend groups.

00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.710
It is, it is fascinating that that is what seems to have been built.

00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:14.454
You know, I think as you get to where we're, where we are today, when you have, uh, um, when you have, uh, you know, when you have all of these different people, That's a little delayed.

00:32:14.494 --> 00:32:15.394
Oh, it's way delayed.

00:32:15.394 --> 00:32:16.144
That's not gonna work.

00:32:17.505 --> 00:32:17.994
We're trying.

00:32:17.994 --> 00:32:36.859
So, you know, I think I this coalition that got built with all these people is this to me I'm anti war first and foremost, honestly, like that is my single issue voter.

00:32:36.869 --> 00:32:39.799
You know, a lot of people are single issue voters on abortion.

00:32:40.490 --> 00:32:48.970
And, you know, it's been a while since I could trust anybody to be anti war, but at least I've kind of come to trust Trump in that space.

00:32:49.250 --> 00:32:52.359
And I believe in RFK's ability to influence in that space.

00:32:52.390 --> 00:33:02.650
And obviously Tulsi, you know, uh, she largely got bounced because she wasn't willing to become a Warhawk Democrat in the new.

00:33:02.789 --> 00:33:04.650
Phase of their evolution as a party.

00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:19.789
I think that has to be the most, uh, fascinating piece of what's happened in the democratic party is if you back it all the way up to when the Clintons sort of became the machine and they got wall street money involved in their campaigns.

00:33:19.990 --> 00:33:22.230
Which was a huge part of how they won those elections.

00:33:22.259 --> 00:33:22.690
Totally.

00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:26.950
Perot was a big factor in that, but more so than that was their ability to raise money.

00:33:27.339 --> 00:33:30.220
The Democrats had always been the party that raised money from the little guy.

00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:30.650
Right.

00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:35.940
And unions and these things, and all of a sudden they had just unlimited funds from Wall Street people.

00:33:36.410 --> 00:33:40.309
And I think that just made, that has changed the party so dramatically.

00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:46.410
Now that, like, BlackRock, Vanguard, some of those power players.

00:33:47.404 --> 00:33:55.384
Own huge percentages of most every fortune 500 company, especially contractors and things like that.

00:33:55.394 --> 00:33:57.634
Like that's, that's the money to influence now.

00:33:57.694 --> 00:33:58.255
Oh yeah.

00:33:58.335 --> 00:33:59.154
Without a doubt.

00:33:59.164 --> 00:34:02.865
And you know, that, and that's what we need to do to fix elections in the future.

00:34:02.865 --> 00:34:06.815
We really need to do some sort of a limited public funding.

00:34:06.815 --> 00:34:16.425
I think, yeah, it's too, you know, I think, uh, Citizens United got one half of it right to me, which is that your money is speech.

00:34:16.844 --> 00:34:17.315
Right.

00:34:17.344 --> 00:34:24.675
You can't prohibit that, but you can't, you also have to have some reality to the fact that corporations cannot be people.

00:34:24.684 --> 00:34:25.675
Right, 100%.

00:34:25.675 --> 00:34:31.635
Those two things are incongruent with each other, and so I'm, I'm, I think Citizens United got portions of that right.

00:34:32.065 --> 00:34:34.664
Which was that, yes, your money is your speech.

00:34:35.025 --> 00:34:35.914
I do agree with that.

00:34:35.954 --> 00:34:39.114
But I also think you can't have the other side of that, which is, but, but, but.

00:34:39.304 --> 00:34:46.715
Also, corporations have unlimited because now we've got all these corporations that are on them to the same side of a fence or whatever.

00:34:46.715 --> 00:34:47.125
Yeah.

00:34:47.405 --> 00:34:48.425
Or limit their donations.

00:34:48.425 --> 00:34:51.704
The same amount I can get 3, 300 bucks, whatever it is, it's fine.

00:34:51.704 --> 00:34:53.175
But we can raise it to 10 grand even.

00:34:53.414 --> 00:34:53.905
Sure.

00:34:53.994 --> 00:34:58.244
However, whatever the number is, but you can't have the same, you can't have that happening.

00:34:58.244 --> 00:35:01.284
And I think that's really, um, that's the part that needs to get fixed.

00:35:01.625 --> 00:35:03.695
And I am just.

00:35:04.530 --> 00:35:08.409
You know, I never could defend Dick Cheney ever as a Republican.

00:35:08.420 --> 00:35:09.500
Never hated him.

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.230
I mean, I was like, Oh, really dark.

00:35:12.260 --> 00:35:13.269
This guy yuck.

00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:15.449
We, we, he's our, he's our gravity.

00:35:15.690 --> 00:35:32.885
This is one of my favorite like old time Rush Limbaugh deals was he did a montage on the word gravitas and it was like one of the first times that the media you could see were getting all their talking points because Everybody was using it across the deal, ABC, NBC, CNN.

00:35:32.885 --> 00:35:34.565
They were all Dick Cheney ads.

00:35:34.594 --> 00:35:37.195
Gravitas, you know, where did you get that?

00:35:37.195 --> 00:35:39.474
Where'd you looked up it in the thesaurus this afternoon?

00:35:39.525 --> 00:35:40.724
Cause you don't even know what it means.

00:35:40.724 --> 00:35:41.514
You talking heads.

00:35:42.135 --> 00:35:47.905
And so when he, when he came on, you know, that was really just this, he was an indefensible person.

00:35:48.125 --> 00:36:00.885
Even then, you know, he had been secretary of defense in the, in the Bush first wars that you like your family makes a fortune from the, just indefensible, truly an indefensible character in the mix.

00:36:01.335 --> 00:36:05.445
So to be in that place, then all of the sudden where you, you're going.

00:36:06.969 --> 00:36:08.940
I've got to celebrate in the endorsement of this person.

00:36:09.380 --> 00:36:19.769
You're celebrating the person that even just when you were on the right side of that, which was that you didn't, you said that guy was Darth Vader and he was, and you defend you.

00:36:19.829 --> 00:36:21.130
Now you're defending him.

00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:27.269
The, the, the, The Babylon Bee, um, is always the best at that kind of thing.

00:36:27.269 --> 00:36:28.539
They should win the Pulitzer Prize.

00:36:28.539 --> 00:36:29.489
They really should.

00:36:29.570 --> 00:36:37.679
Um, they won, uh, what Diddy's ex girlfriend encourages public to trust her judgment when it comes to voting for president.

00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:47.639
Yeah, didn't Elon say, like, 90 percent of the people that are voting for Kamala went to ditty parties?

00:36:49.369 --> 00:36:49.409
Oh, God.

00:36:49.409 --> 00:36:49.579
Celebrities.

00:36:49.579 --> 00:36:51.105
Celebrities.

00:36:51.105 --> 00:36:53.949
Yeah, you can have the ditty list, I think.

00:36:54.539 --> 00:37:01.239
No, you know, there's, there was one thing about Kennedy that I was so, um, that I think he was really right about in all of this.

00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:07.510
In all of his campaign, which is that, look, if you can't have honesty in government, then everything becomes suspicious.

00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:08.110
Yeah.

00:37:08.179 --> 00:37:08.769
Everything.

00:37:09.110 --> 00:37:10.739
And that's really what the truth is.

00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:13.280
Like, right now, you have to be suspicious of everything.

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:14.420
We can't trust elections.

00:37:14.590 --> 00:37:17.530
We can't trust, we can't trust what somebody says on TV.

00:37:17.530 --> 00:37:19.460
We can't trust, you can't trust any of it.

00:37:19.469 --> 00:37:20.789
You can't trust a government person.

00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:22.099
You can't trust your neighbor.

00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.889
Well, wait until AI gets a little more juicy out there.

00:37:25.110 --> 00:37:30.889
It's just really, really, really, uh, you have to have government tell the truth and there needs to be accountability to that.

00:37:31.269 --> 00:37:39.760
And that was another attractive portion of the, of the Kennedy campaign, which I think has like the Republican party has awoken to that thing.

00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:43.699
That government isn't honest, that the media isn't honest.

00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:45.150
And we've been saying it a long time.

00:37:45.150 --> 00:37:46.289
Republicans have been saying it.

00:37:46.289 --> 00:37:47.670
Conservatives have been saying it a long time.

00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:57.454
This is the first time that you've got a coalition of people that are saying, Yeah, actually, we know how it works, and it's all broken, and it's all wrong, and it needs to, it needs to be fixed.

00:37:57.465 --> 00:38:04.925
There's some fun posts about, uh, you know, if, if Elon Musk actually cuts a trillion or two from the federal government.

00:38:05.324 --> 00:38:09.815
Budgets, that's going to mean a lot of people's jobs are at risk.

00:38:11.224 --> 00:38:15.355
I love the, it almost like half the responses are maybe they can learn to code.

00:38:17.034 --> 00:38:17.644
So ridiculous.

00:38:17.965 --> 00:38:19.485
So you got a headline, Emerson.

00:38:19.485 --> 00:38:19.735
Yeah.

00:38:19.735 --> 00:38:21.144
Uh, what do we got here?

00:38:21.494 --> 00:38:28.335
The, uh, NAACP, um, finds that, um, their poll.

00:38:28.344 --> 00:38:28.675
Okay.

00:38:28.974 --> 00:38:33.514
One in four us, uh, black men under 50 support Trump.

00:38:34.659 --> 00:38:35.050
For president.

00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:35.559
Okay.

00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:36.329
For president, yeah.

00:38:36.380 --> 00:38:37.989
We don't have any exit poll data yet or anything like that.

00:38:37.989 --> 00:38:41.360
That's just the NAACP's poll coming out of, going into the election.

00:38:41.369 --> 00:38:41.880
Gotcha.

00:38:41.929 --> 00:38:43.655
That's I'm gonna say it's 32, 35.

00:38:43.655 --> 00:38:44.639
You think it's higher than that?

00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:49.344
I think black male vote is gonna be That's going to be the shock factor for the election.

00:38:49.394 --> 00:38:57.295
I think both, I did hear, uh, before we went on, uh, that the, the, uh, Latinos are up to 47%.

00:38:57.335 --> 00:38:57.664
47%.

00:38:57.735 --> 00:38:58.565
Yeah, something like that.

00:38:58.565 --> 00:38:59.605
And that might be changed by now.

00:38:59.605 --> 00:39:00.434
But that's a lot.

00:39:00.644 --> 00:39:01.014
It is a lot.

00:39:01.025 --> 00:39:03.525
That has not been a part of American or Republican politics.

00:39:03.585 --> 00:39:04.954
I wonder if that counts the illegals?

00:39:05.655 --> 00:39:05.875
I don't know.

00:39:06.605 --> 00:39:07.144
I don't know.

00:39:07.164 --> 00:39:08.244
Or does it not?

00:39:08.315 --> 00:39:08.664
I don't know.

00:39:08.875 --> 00:39:15.054
So this is, this is the stuff that you know, you can't, you can't, we can't be in this position another election.

00:39:15.054 --> 00:39:16.614
That's why this becomes really critical.

00:39:16.635 --> 00:39:17.255
Right, right.

00:39:17.344 --> 00:39:23.164
It's one of the things that I think is, you cannot have a people that just get to come in and don't play by the rules.

00:39:23.175 --> 00:39:28.304
Well, let's talk about, um, one of the big issues that's going to happen after I think Trump's going to get elected here.

00:39:28.664 --> 00:39:30.864
What to do with those 15 million people?

00:39:31.644 --> 00:39:32.724
Um, and.

00:39:32.735 --> 00:39:33.324
That's a good question.

00:39:33.375 --> 00:39:33.764
Like.

00:39:34.250 --> 00:39:46.920
Any proposals or any thoughts, um, I mean you can't just like kick them all out That's not not in the media, but I think they should all be on like super double probation Yeah, you'd like you do any felony you're out.

00:39:47.329 --> 00:39:47.920
I've reported.

00:39:48.650 --> 00:39:56.250
Well, I don't mean to cut you off, but go ahead Oh, I was gonna I was gonna say I think At least for immigrants that want to stay.

00:39:56.250 --> 00:40:05.909
I think like a mandatory background check is in order because that's literally, I would say it's too hard to get citizenship.

00:40:05.909 --> 00:40:07.619
Didn't it take like mom 10 years?

00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.679
Oh, it's been, she just got her citizenship last year.

00:40:10.699 --> 00:40:14.179
Oh my married 22 years, how much money do you spend along the way?

00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:15.739
Well, over 10, 000, right?

00:40:16.150 --> 00:40:18.300
It's way too hard to be a citizen.

00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.429
So I get why people can be like, I don't care.

00:40:21.914 --> 00:40:24.445
Probably markets up to 90 percent I'm gonna pour us a bourbon.

00:40:24.454 --> 00:40:24.945
There you go.

00:40:26.425 --> 00:40:33.159
Not you ever you guys keep talking Yeah, well, and that's, that's how I think you fix immigration in the situation that we're in.

00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:46.019
Which is, look, you cannot, let's find out who you are, how you're here, if you, if you really should be deported, which you're talking about people that are criminals, the people that are, that have, don't, really, aren't.

00:40:46.210 --> 00:40:48.210
There's a lot of jobs in deportation screening.

00:40:51.139 --> 00:40:56.170
I think if you could figure out a way to say, okay, look, you guys that are here, we understand why you're here.

00:40:56.170 --> 00:41:03.360
And we understand that our, it's another, it's another dark indicator of our bureaucratic state, which is that the thing is too hard to do.

00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:06.440
My wife and I, it took us forever.

00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.659
And we thought we were doing everything legally the entire time.

00:41:09.769 --> 00:41:15.349
And, you know, with one misstep or one bad piece of paper, Suddenly we've, we're not there anymore.

00:41:15.349 --> 00:41:18.050
We, we actually aren't legal, you know, I can do a two year.

00:41:18.050 --> 00:41:27.059
I remember we were, yeah, we remember we were supposed to go on a trip to Mexico, uh, at one point and, uh, I didn't realize it was so recent.

00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.599
Well, this is like, you know, she, Oh, that she just became a citizen.

00:41:30.630 --> 00:41:32.070
Yeah, this was just last year.

00:41:32.070 --> 00:41:32.619
That's crazy.

00:41:32.619 --> 00:41:34.519
I would have called it, had her deported it when she made me mad.

00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.559
That was, she had, she had her green card the whole time.

00:41:38.699 --> 00:41:46.469
Right, but because of the process, because the time it takes, you had, you know, we get to the end of the first green card and they say, and we could have done some of this faster.

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.989
Some of those like discouragement on our level, right?

00:41:49.650 --> 00:41:52.900
We got to the end of the first green card and it's, we're ready to apply for citizenship.

00:41:52.900 --> 00:41:55.869
And our attorney says, well, you're too close to the window now.

00:41:56.250 --> 00:41:58.210
But you can't apply until the window gets here.

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:03.599
But if you do it, we need to get you another green card so that you can then be for sure apply for citizenship.

00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:08.349
So you really are ultimately locked in doing two green cards before you can be a true citizenship.

00:42:08.349 --> 00:42:11.210
If you want to be a dual citizen, which is what we wanted to have happened.

00:42:11.369 --> 00:42:11.550
Yeah.

00:42:11.929 --> 00:42:15.250
So, but all of that to say, we spent thousands of dollars.

00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:16.889
We spent years and years.

00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.409
If she had given up her Canadian citizenship would have been faster, could be faster, but still been in years.

00:42:21.429 --> 00:42:22.519
And it would have been paperwork.

00:42:22.914 --> 00:42:29.764
And the truth of it is, is like these four, the folks that are coming across the border from the South are coming here with just what's on their backs, right?

00:42:29.775 --> 00:42:30.454
They have no money.

00:42:30.494 --> 00:42:48.085
Well, that's the capability opportunity it is, is like we could be drafting for an NFL team and take in, you know, lots of, Educated African people and Chinese people and Ukrainians, you know, whatever.

00:42:48.085 --> 00:42:49.135
And there are people around.

00:42:49.144 --> 00:42:54.005
And even people that have wealth that want to come here and move here and move their families here and have their children educated in the U.

00:42:54.005 --> 00:42:54.324
S.

00:42:55.085 --> 00:42:59.335
But it won't be as easy if we Like don't have a border.

00:42:59.494 --> 00:43:02.394
Well in that you have this porous system.

00:43:02.394 --> 00:43:08.835
That is really just encourages and it's it's again It's the bureaucratic state to me that encourages the dis this like I got it.

00:43:08.965 --> 00:43:13.034
I can't I need the hope of getting there I know there's work there.

00:43:13.864 --> 00:43:14.655
I'm gonna cheat.

00:43:14.855 --> 00:43:16.385
Yeah, I can't do the system.

00:43:16.815 --> 00:43:18.125
The system's too punitive, right?

00:43:18.195 --> 00:43:18.594
Right.

00:43:18.985 --> 00:43:33.065
I just googled it and it sounds like the average amount of time is Five years to be a citizen you have to live In America for five years, and then you can apply for your citizenship, which can take up to 24 months.

00:43:33.594 --> 00:43:34.775
So you're seven year process.

00:43:34.775 --> 00:43:35.434
Yeah.

00:43:35.525 --> 00:43:38.295
It's a seven year at the minimum or the on average, at least.

00:43:38.295 --> 00:43:38.505
Yeah.

00:43:38.554 --> 00:43:39.224
And that's true.

00:43:39.744 --> 00:43:56.454
I think if you could, I, my proposal for immigration, which may or may not be a good one, but my proposal, at least having gone through the process was, could you, uh, if, could you register people to know that they're here, background check, if they, if they don't belong here because of criminality or prior criminality.

00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.079
Or whatever you're disqualified.

00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:10.079
You don't, you don't get to come, but if you really want to be here and you want to work and you want to be a part of our system and you want to become a part of the American dream, we register you.

00:44:10.369 --> 00:44:11.550
We find out who you are.

00:44:11.809 --> 00:44:17.150
We find out where you're going, where you want to be, who you're going to work for, what your plan is.

00:44:17.210 --> 00:44:23.360
You used to have a local sponsor, like you had to have a person that basically vouched for you or would let you live with them or something.

00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.699
And then you, you are, you cannot get on.

00:44:27.494 --> 00:44:27.824
assistance.

00:44:27.824 --> 00:44:28.664
Yeah, no government assistance.

00:44:28.664 --> 00:44:32.735
You can't get on assistance, and you can't vote for, until you're a citizen.

00:44:32.784 --> 00:44:33.025
Yeah.

00:44:33.525 --> 00:44:35.105
But you're on a path to get there.

00:44:35.344 --> 00:44:35.375
Yeah.

00:44:35.445 --> 00:44:40.034
But, and you can be here, and you can work, and, and, but you, it's a one sheet of paper that you fill out.

00:44:40.405 --> 00:44:40.684
Right.

00:44:40.684 --> 00:44:42.275
It's not, our stacks, we, we literally went.

00:44:42.434 --> 00:44:43.764
It's like a car loan application.

00:44:43.795 --> 00:44:44.385
It is, we went.

00:44:44.655 --> 00:44:45.385
No, that's what it should be.

00:44:45.385 --> 00:44:45.614
It should be.

00:44:45.614 --> 00:44:47.875
It's like a car loan application instead of like a mortgage closing.

00:44:47.885 --> 00:44:50.965
Instead of a car load, that's what I thought you said, a car load of papers.

00:44:50.965 --> 00:44:52.385
Yeah, just like a one pager, you know.

00:44:52.434 --> 00:44:53.304
Yeah, we, we took.

00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:55.920
Boxes to the immigration building.

00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.159
And then I had an interview and felt like we were criminals for sitting there and hearing about different things.

00:45:00.170 --> 00:45:03.460
So is it a pretty, a pretty tough situation?

00:45:03.460 --> 00:45:03.840
So, yeah.

00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.269
So I'd like an update on the map.

00:45:06.329 --> 00:45:11.550
So where it looks like things are looking pretty good for Trump tonight, but what do you see in there?

00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:16.719
We're currently sitting at a one 98 for Trump.

00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:20.280
He looks really good in the, uh, the Senate.

00:45:20.909 --> 00:45:24.434
I mean, he's already 47 to 36.

00:45:24.844 --> 00:45:25.195
Okay.

00:45:25.295 --> 00:45:41.545
Um, and the house too is also House is moving in that direction too, so 126 to 88 so far, and we've got Pennsylvania's Is like rapidly flipping that's the only one that's interesting really steady Because it's going back and forth.

00:45:41.545 --> 00:45:47.864
It's going to Trump and then they do another county then it's Kamala then it's Trump What are you seeing in Maine?

00:45:47.905 --> 00:45:50.244
That's that's interesting that it's not called yet.

00:45:50.255 --> 00:45:55.164
Well, Maine's only 8 percent Oh, it's only 8 percent Okay So that's the thing some of them look differently up there.

00:45:55.235 --> 00:45:59.405
Yeah Same with Minnesota, it's only 3.

00:45:59.574 --> 00:46:00.264
3%, okay.

00:46:00.275 --> 00:46:01.905
Oh, yeah, that doesn't really count.

00:46:02.594 --> 00:46:04.135
But it looks like they've called a few things.

00:46:04.275 --> 00:46:07.554
They have not called New Mexico, which I think is, uh, telling.

00:46:07.844 --> 00:46:12.255
New Mexico, they It's kind of flipping, too.

00:46:12.315 --> 00:46:12.675
Yeah.

00:46:13.195 --> 00:46:15.445
Which, I'm not surprised by that, actually.

00:46:16.375 --> 00:46:19.320
New Mexico's a fairly Libertarian state.

00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:20.789
They're the ones that are like Gary Johnson.

00:46:20.789 --> 00:46:22.230
So I could see that.

00:46:22.250 --> 00:46:28.199
I could see that being a place that would, would be struggling to be fully, deeply blue tonight.

00:46:28.309 --> 00:46:28.690
Yeah.

00:46:28.809 --> 00:46:29.159
Yeah.

00:46:29.219 --> 00:46:33.980
Well, I mean, that's the main reason to support Trump is liberty.

00:46:33.989 --> 00:46:35.329
Kind of right.

00:46:35.909 --> 00:46:37.449
That was the proposition at the end, right?

00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:39.800
I mean, that's really what he's come up with is.

00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:46.630
It's this, the choice is we'll continue on as an American system.

00:46:47.190 --> 00:46:48.110
Almost said empire.

00:46:53.619 --> 00:47:02.829
Carry it, continue on in the American system with there are a constitution, the rules and free speech, first amendment, those kinds of things, or you have the apparatus that runs the show.

00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.610
Do you think if Harris is elected that they would add to the Supreme court?

00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:09.059
Oh, yeah, I would.

00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.480
Or at least if they had the ability to do so.

00:47:12.489 --> 00:47:13.030
I think they would make the attempt.

00:47:13.030 --> 00:47:14.639
Can't do that by executive though, right?

00:47:14.699 --> 00:47:15.099
No.

00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:16.519
I mean, FDR tried.

00:47:17.019 --> 00:47:17.389
Right.

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.389
Uh, but he didn't.

00:47:18.389 --> 00:47:20.579
So there's precedence and failure of that already.

00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:22.719
Which is probably good from a court basis.

00:47:22.829 --> 00:47:30.559
I feel like the two worst things that can come out of a Harris presidency is we go to like war with Ukraine for whatever reason.

00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.760
Well, yeah, end of Humanity is, do you think that's bad?

00:47:35.210 --> 00:47:40.760
Well, I think war is bad in general, but I, I could definitely see, uh, her saying we're going to Ukraine.

00:47:40.889 --> 00:47:41.199
Yeah.

00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:50.780
Um, that, and then she wants to, I don't know if you've seen her saying that she wants to police the social media platforms.

00:47:50.780 --> 00:47:52.489
They all have to follow the same guidelines.

00:47:52.590 --> 00:47:52.750
Yeah.

00:47:52.750 --> 00:47:53.150
Yeah.

00:47:53.210 --> 00:47:58.210
We have to hold these platforms responsible for the hateful content that they put over there.

00:47:59.090 --> 00:48:03.719
Um, that's just, she's just saying that because she doesn't like what they're saying about her, honestly.

00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:06.289
I mean, it's, yeah.

00:48:06.989 --> 00:48:25.039
Well, and I mean, that kind of goes back to, like, freedom of speech has been a thing for a while, but it really didn't get Come to a boil until that, uh, 2020 COVID kind of season, which was everything they did was unconstitutional at that point.

00:48:25.050 --> 00:48:25.460
Sure.

00:48:25.530 --> 00:48:26.079
Everything.

00:48:27.099 --> 00:48:32.750
You can go through all of the amendments and find out where they screwed up, including the 10th, which is you don't have any power to do any of this.

00:48:32.750 --> 00:48:34.304
Right.

00:48:34.304 --> 00:48:35.860
Right.

00:48:35.860 --> 00:48:40.045
Well, in the, you know, in the first amendment was totally, you know, right to assembly lights of first amendment.

00:48:40.204 --> 00:48:41.235
Freedom of religion.

00:48:41.235 --> 00:48:45.204
You know, they shut down the churches and kept the liquor stores open, all that kind of narrative.

00:48:45.574 --> 00:48:46.224
Terrible.

00:48:46.324 --> 00:48:47.675
I mean, absolutely terrible.

00:48:47.675 --> 00:48:51.135
And you had an, you just had such imposition on everything.

00:48:51.135 --> 00:48:52.885
You had improper search and seizure.

00:48:52.885 --> 00:48:58.195
You had, you had all sorts of stuff like confiscation without due compensation or it was awful.

00:48:58.364 --> 00:49:01.215
It does look like, uh, this is kind of new news.

00:49:01.215 --> 00:49:01.934
I'm seeing here.

00:49:01.945 --> 00:49:05.585
It does look like Ted Cruz won his seat in Texas, which actually was a tighter race.

00:49:05.954 --> 00:49:09.224
Democrats actually had projected that as something that they could pick that one up.

00:49:09.565 --> 00:49:14.744
Uh, that they thought they might be able to pick up, but it looks like he's kind of handily won that now.

00:49:14.755 --> 00:49:17.425
So, um, so that's interesting.

00:49:17.855 --> 00:49:23.905
Um, looks like just initial stuff, Georgia's still looking very good for Trump.

00:49:24.114 --> 00:49:27.034
He's up by four points, Georgia.

00:49:27.735 --> 00:49:33.824
And George is, um, close to, it's about, uh, it's 88 reporting, 88%.

00:49:33.835 --> 00:49:37.635
What's our spread on votes, Emerson, between the two, between Trump, how many, what's it?

00:49:37.784 --> 00:49:40.264
160, votes.

00:49:40.295 --> 00:49:40.695
Oh, okay.

00:49:41.434 --> 00:49:44.614
Well, I think, I think they only won it by 10, 000 last time.

00:49:44.614 --> 00:49:47.755
So, uh, Yeah, Georgia, one would think it'd be pretty well in the bag.

00:49:48.355 --> 00:50:01.050
Um, how many, uh, that was another Babylon B headline is, uh, uh, Leading Democrats warn that the race may not be called until 110 percent of the votes have been counted.

00:50:01.219 --> 00:50:01.590
I saw that one.

00:50:01.590 --> 00:50:06.590
The other one I liked was Democrats warn that we won't know who won the election until four years from now.

00:50:08.739 --> 00:50:10.230
Votes may take four years to count.

00:50:10.739 --> 00:50:12.820
Uh, it, it's sad.

00:50:12.829 --> 00:50:14.494
We, that party should not.

00:50:15.454 --> 00:50:17.474
It's, it's, it, it will go down.

00:50:17.474 --> 00:50:21.034
There are some very fine people that still remain in the Democratic Party.

00:50:21.394 --> 00:50:21.684
Absolutely.

00:50:21.684 --> 00:50:26.485
And it, and it, and it deserves a better voice than it's, than it's awarding itself.

00:50:26.695 --> 00:50:27.014
Yeah, yeah.

00:50:27.255 --> 00:50:27.855
It really does.

00:50:27.855 --> 00:50:30.605
I mean, it's not, you do need two healthy parties.

00:50:30.864 --> 00:50:31.784
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:31.864 --> 00:50:36.954
You need robust ideas to come to the surface, which is, which happens in independent politics.

00:50:37.335 --> 00:50:42.255
And that's the, the best kind of independent politics that we're sort of enabled to have in, in America.

00:50:42.255 --> 00:50:51.614
Because if we have a very, you know, Close Senate and you have a close house and you don't and it isn't run by the loudest voices.

00:50:51.614 --> 00:50:54.585
It's by the same people that actually want to see something happen.

00:50:54.585 --> 00:50:57.594
And I think you, you advance agendas at that point.

00:50:57.724 --> 00:51:02.394
Um, significantly what you're, what I think you'll get out of this is a reaction to the Democratic Party.

00:51:02.394 --> 00:51:04.394
That's so negative.

00:51:04.980 --> 00:51:10.110
And that they will, yeah, anybody that seems like they're the establishment is going to be castrated.

00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:11.510
It's not going to go good.

00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:18.449
I just really don't think there'll be some like, you know, lucky for Josh Shapiro, he got passed over for VP pick, right, right.

00:51:18.449 --> 00:51:21.619
Because he might have a future in the current party because he's a pretty rational guy.

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.619
Uh, in contrast to some, I do think this is the end of Harris.

00:51:26.065 --> 00:51:26.635
Oh, for sure.

00:51:26.994 --> 00:51:29.135
Like, I don't think she, I don't think she has a future.

00:51:29.135 --> 00:51:32.175
She can't even get an administrative assistant job after this.

00:51:33.224 --> 00:51:34.684
Never was qualified for it.

00:51:35.074 --> 00:51:38.925
I'm sorry for those of you that hear this and hate me, but I just It's so sad.

00:51:38.954 --> 00:51:50.224
I want our first female president to be a really inspiring woman that got there on the merits of her intellect and her compassion and relationship creation ability and strength.

00:51:50.385 --> 00:51:50.574
Yep.

00:51:50.585 --> 00:51:50.644
Thank you.

00:51:51.074 --> 00:51:55.994
And, and just, there are, without question, highly capable women.

00:51:56.605 --> 00:51:56.965
Yeah.

00:51:57.005 --> 00:52:00.925
You know, in every I'd have voted for Tulsi Gabbard as a Democratic ticket over Trump.

00:52:01.204 --> 00:52:01.605
Totally.

00:52:02.275 --> 00:52:09.804
You know, cause she, I believe her just as much on the war stuff, and she's gotten herself quite a few economics lessons since she was first in Congress.

00:52:09.855 --> 00:52:17.195
Well, and I think you look around at the, the voices that are women in the Democratic party that, that have, Almost moved themselves.

00:52:17.284 --> 00:52:22.894
You know, I, AOC is an interesting character to me because she's one of the people that came in sort of future.

00:52:22.945 --> 00:52:23.454
She does.

00:52:23.585 --> 00:52:30.025
She has, but she's, she plays off as if she's this extreme radical.

00:52:30.789 --> 00:52:33.710
And then ultimately plays along to keep her seat.

00:52:34.449 --> 00:52:38.500
And I, and I think that will need to end at some point.

00:52:38.570 --> 00:52:42.349
Like I would not mind AOC's voice in Congress at all.

00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:48.730
I think she's a better voice for real people than all those other white castled followers.

00:52:48.809 --> 00:52:49.239
Totally.

00:52:49.260 --> 00:52:53.840
You know, but, but if she plays along in order to get reelected, cause she likes the cushy seat.

00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.769
Yeah, she'll find herself just like that other dude that got beat by her.

00:52:57.780 --> 00:52:58.530
Was it by her?

00:52:58.989 --> 00:52:59.420
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:59.650 --> 00:52:59.929
Yeah.

00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:00.889
And he'd been there forever.

00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.449
30 years.

00:53:02.469 --> 00:53:03.469
25 years or something.

00:53:03.469 --> 00:53:06.380
Loses his seat because she's actually saying what matters to the people.

00:53:06.809 --> 00:53:13.300
I have this very good friend from New York, Jack Buckbee, who we We've done some podcast stuff together.

00:53:13.309 --> 00:53:24.639
People listen to that Jack's premise, which I think is one of the brighter premises of the entire election was that what's happened is the radicalization of our country has happened because the politicians do not listen.

00:53:24.809 --> 00:53:28.090
They don't give a voice to the people in the places that are most hurting.

00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:39.965
So their only choice then is to radicalize and get louder and scream louder and more, you know, Exacerbated in their, in their choices and bombastic in how they treat their neighbor and all of that stuff.

00:53:40.005 --> 00:53:49.844
And I actually think that's really a very brilliant point, which is that what we have happening to me in American politics is not, it isn't as divided as everybody thinks it is.

00:53:49.864 --> 00:53:56.155
You know, if, uh, if Trump can do some economic incentives to onshore.

00:53:57.059 --> 00:54:19.039
manufacturing and business of different sorts into these inner city type neighborhoods and Give you know black white Puerto Ricans Haitians whatever Somalians actual chance to get some decent jobs and a chance to Have a pathway out of a relatively hope limited situation in the beginning.

00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:31.824
Yep that would be like even as a libertarian I approve that kind of spending because right now the Like, there's food deserts and freaking job deserts galore.

00:54:32.414 --> 00:54:37.684
Well, and I would say And we can incentivize companies to try to get rid of that.

00:54:37.894 --> 00:54:43.485
I am, as libertarian ish as I am, if you're going to have government Mm hmm.

00:54:43.815 --> 00:54:45.784
Then it should be good, right?

00:54:45.855 --> 00:54:48.764
Like it should be effective on some level and it should have something.

00:54:48.824 --> 00:55:07.425
I'm not necessarily in favor of figuring out how a bureaucrat should make sure that somebody in, in Philadelphia qualifies or doesn't, but I think if you could, if you could reappropriate monies back to the United States through Trump's tariffs, you know, what he did with the steel worker thing actually.

00:55:07.715 --> 00:55:09.664
Like those steel workers actually felt an impact.

00:55:10.304 --> 00:55:12.405
They knew who's side he was on.

00:55:13.144 --> 00:55:14.784
Hey, we're going to get American steel to come back.

00:55:14.784 --> 00:55:15.425
We're going to do this.

00:55:15.425 --> 00:55:16.155
This is a part of it.

00:55:16.465 --> 00:55:27.335
He's moved these working class people back to, into the Republican party, because I think they recognize like, okay, look, that was maybe some temporary pain, but what it did for American steel.

00:55:27.510 --> 00:55:37.139
was huge, and this idea that we're all going to just sit in cubicles and design the next intellectual piece of property that the Chinese will have right is really a bad choice for the United States.

00:55:37.139 --> 00:55:37.690
We need to be met.

00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.340
We need to manufacture actually make things.

00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:40.900
We need to make things.

00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:43.449
We're better people when we make things 100 percent period.

00:55:43.579 --> 00:55:55.570
Well, and like all the tech companies in the world won't grow any food, won't heat any houses, won't build any houses, won't, you know, they can educate some children or help do it and stuff.

00:55:55.570 --> 00:56:05.699
But like the, the necessities of life, a lot of those companies, uh, you know, the, the fangs and the, the influence companies aren't really.

00:56:06.494 --> 00:56:08.065
doing anything good for us.

00:56:08.094 --> 00:56:16.704
They're, they're taking away from our ability to raise a garden, walk around the block more, enjoy our time with our children, playing music, whatever.

00:56:17.875 --> 00:56:23.135
Well, and when you're making things, it encourages you to do some things that are really important, which are.

00:56:23.500 --> 00:56:28.570
But you then start to think about raising your own food you start to think about how do we we do something here?

00:56:28.570 --> 00:56:33.170
Where we actually are utilizing the resources we have for the people here.

00:56:33.219 --> 00:56:52.695
Yeah, we're not doing any of that You know, we really aren't we aren't doing anything for our people Yeah, and, and we're not, we're not looking and it's a slogan, I suppose, on some level, but America first slogan really does come down to who are you putting first in your priorities and in the way in which you do things.

00:56:52.945 --> 00:56:54.585
And we're a punitive system.

00:56:54.744 --> 00:57:02.344
They take 50 percent of your money and ship it overseas to people all around the world to blow people up and kill people and do terrible things.

00:57:02.344 --> 00:57:02.360
Yeah.

00:57:02.500 --> 00:57:06.809
In order to then, you know, as Mitch McConnell says, so that we can, that's really good for us.

00:57:06.809 --> 00:57:08.679
So we can bring it back here in our defense contractors.

00:57:08.699 --> 00:57:09.110
Right.

00:57:09.710 --> 00:57:11.929
So we can read this broken glass fallacy.

00:57:12.090 --> 00:57:18.250
When we say we're sending 200 million to Ukraine, it's not really 200 million in money.

00:57:18.489 --> 00:57:24.309
We're just got some excess inventory of bombers and bombs and stuff.

00:57:24.469 --> 00:57:25.940
It's, it's terrible.

00:57:25.940 --> 00:57:34.309
And I think that's one of the things that, uh, you know, I, I just think it would, it's, it's something we need to get fixed and how we treat things.

00:57:34.309 --> 00:57:36.349
And I actually think Trump is moving in that direction.

00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:42.440
I was just trying to see, I saw a quick flash of the New York times, uh, their little needle thing.

00:57:42.989 --> 00:57:50.619
Um, and I'm, but I've got to sign up for a thousand apps cause I haven't read the New York times in like however many years, cause it's a terrible rag.

00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:55.659
Um, So anyway, maybe Emerson, you could look up the new yorktimes.

00:57:55.659 --> 00:57:57.760
com and see what the election needle looks like.

00:57:58.289 --> 00:58:02.889
They have a little, well, you know, the one on Hillary the night that she won in 20 or she was supposed to win in 2016.

00:58:02.889 --> 00:58:06.670
She was at 90 percent when the night went and the needle went back all the way the other way.

00:58:07.309 --> 00:58:13.570
Obviously it looked like the needle was moving very red all of the sudden, and it does look like, uh, yeah, there we go.

00:58:13.619 --> 00:58:13.949
Okay.

00:58:14.969 --> 00:58:20.635
None of the swing States are called, but what are, what do we got, uh, in terms of our newspaper ads.

00:58:20.644 --> 00:58:23.065
The pop up ads are nasty.

00:58:23.065 --> 00:58:27.565
North Carolina's 81 percent reporting now in Trump's at 50.

00:58:27.614 --> 00:58:27.905
8.

00:58:27.954 --> 00:58:29.034
That's pretty significant.

00:58:29.315 --> 00:58:29.605
Yeah.

00:58:29.605 --> 00:58:30.614
That's, that's good.

00:58:31.065 --> 00:58:31.315
Yeah.

00:58:31.315 --> 00:58:31.605
Yeah.

00:58:31.644 --> 00:58:32.945
That's a really good numbers.

00:58:32.945 --> 00:58:37.784
And I don't think Appalachian is in yet and I will imagine that will be one that will be very stiff for him.

00:58:38.875 --> 00:58:39.394
I would hope so.

00:58:39.405 --> 00:58:39.684
I would imagine.

00:58:41.505 --> 00:58:43.014
I certainly would hope so anyway.

00:58:43.474 --> 00:58:45.284
Um, Yeah.

00:58:45.485 --> 00:58:47.454
So it's it's This looks good.

00:58:47.454 --> 00:58:49.324
Oh, Michigan is tipping Trump now.

00:58:49.375 --> 00:58:51.485
Michigan is with 49.

00:58:51.554 --> 00:58:52.065
1.

00:58:52.074 --> 00:59:06.514
That's interesting Well, what's interesting too is Currently is Trump and they've done the big cities in Arizona they don't Phoenix's in are that what what can you see on there?

00:59:06.514 --> 00:59:08.364
Look that Robert Kennedy's got 0.

00:59:08.364 --> 00:59:09.284
5 percent in Michigan.

00:59:09.605 --> 00:59:10.164
Does he really?

00:59:10.414 --> 00:59:11.900
Oh What is it?

00:59:11.929 --> 00:59:13.900
Uh, 6, 000 votes.

00:59:14.099 --> 00:59:14.949
Did he get that many?

00:59:15.809 --> 00:59:18.550
In the, in the blue, does it tell you how many?

00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.639
It doesn't give you county by county detail.

00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:25.099
Um, how is Carrie Lake doing there?

00:59:25.309 --> 00:59:27.199
Does it say in the Senate?

00:59:28.570 --> 00:59:30.610
Oh, I think she's got it.

00:59:30.610 --> 00:59:33.019
I saw something where she was like 53 or something like that.

00:59:33.019 --> 00:59:35.119
Does it say what the Senate, it would be in the Senate races.

00:59:35.289 --> 00:59:37.030
I'm in the Senate races right now.

00:59:37.150 --> 00:59:39.269
Um, it looks like, uh.

00:59:40.150 --> 00:59:40.860
She's behind.

00:59:40.889 --> 00:59:41.500
She's behind, yeah.

00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:42.369
Oh, she is.

00:59:42.739 --> 00:59:43.030
Interesting.

00:59:43.349 --> 00:59:44.619
She's not a good candidate.

00:59:45.659 --> 00:59:57.650
Um, you know, that is another thing that I think may come out of this that I would be very encouraged if it happened, which would be the sort of diminution of the Laura Loomers of the world and the Kerry Lakes.

00:59:57.980 --> 01:00:04.219
As much as I think they try to stand and be what they are, the reality is, is they're bombast.

01:00:04.534 --> 01:00:07.844
Is the worst kind and people don't respond to that.

01:00:07.864 --> 01:00:08.855
Trump gets away with it.

01:00:08.855 --> 01:00:10.445
Cause he's funny, right?

01:00:10.675 --> 01:00:12.235
He really, yeah, he gets away.

01:00:12.485 --> 01:00:14.264
He likes to come across as being mean.

01:00:14.275 --> 01:00:16.375
Kind of, there's a meanness to Laura Loomer.

01:00:16.375 --> 01:00:20.605
There's a meanness to Carrie Lake that I don't think is it's not positive.

01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:25.159
Where Trump can be kind of what he is, but he can crack a joke and get the whole thing.

01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:26.139
Laughing again, totally.

01:00:26.230 --> 01:00:27.039
He's really good at that.

01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:41.150
And as, as because she is dumb, you know, anytime, and he's, you know, if you listen to the Rogan podcast, he was three hours of wandering and rambling and all, but it was, it was great because he's funny.

01:00:41.750 --> 01:00:47.010
You know, he's got some funny things to say and he's, uh, he's, he's more charming.

01:00:47.074 --> 01:00:50.864
In real life than I think these other people are.

01:00:51.324 --> 01:01:03.755
So I do think that even though what, what I hope you'd see more of is the Rhonda Santas is the JD Vance's who have Trump instincts about the country, but can articulate it in a way in which they come across as charming.

01:01:03.875 --> 01:01:04.215
Yeah.

01:01:04.414 --> 01:01:06.655
I don't think, I don't think you'll see that happen.

01:01:06.675 --> 01:01:12.809
Uh, I think the people who are just the, the kind of in your face, You know, that, that isn't what, that isn't why Trump is winning.

01:01:13.090 --> 01:01:13.929
Yeah, totally.

01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:16.369
He's not winning because he's punching you in the face.

01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:17.840
That's not why he wins.

01:01:17.869 --> 01:01:19.000
No, no.

01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:20.050
Well, and he's softened.

01:01:20.460 --> 01:01:20.800
For sure.

01:01:20.909 --> 01:01:34.875
A lot, you know, like with the inclusion of all these other voices, he's, It's even though he still says things like, most important election ever going to be the best four years of the history of the United States, you know, all that kind of stuff.

01:01:34.905 --> 01:01:36.675
And that's silly.

01:01:36.965 --> 01:01:41.644
Um, and you know, that kind of thing actually makes a difference for a leader.

01:01:42.105 --> 01:01:42.485
It does.

01:01:42.594 --> 01:01:46.684
Even if the data is like, Oh, yeah, you, the economy grew at 2.

01:01:46.735 --> 01:01:48.885
4 percent instead of 2.

01:01:48.885 --> 01:01:48.914
1%.

01:01:48.914 --> 01:01:49.864
You're like, well, he's.

01:01:50.849 --> 01:01:57.199
He loved to say that he had, you know, this giant landslide in 2016, which he really won the whole thing by 80, 000 votes or something.

01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.539
I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't this massive landslide.

01:01:59.539 --> 01:02:00.599
It was surprising.

01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:03.610
And the college is a winner take all thing.

01:02:03.610 --> 01:02:07.039
So it does, it does make sense, but I think, um, I don't know.

01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:11.079
I'm, I'm encouraged so far and it feels really, it feels really positive.

01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:16.219
One of the things I wanted to share was that as of right now, the national popular vote is.

01:02:16.309 --> 01:02:22.980
41, 500, 000 for Kamala and 47, 083, 000 for Trump.

01:02:23.500 --> 01:02:26.409
So 4, 000, 000, 3, 500, 000.

01:02:26.409 --> 01:02:30.849
He needs to be 6, 000, 000 higher almost for Trump.

01:02:30.849 --> 01:02:33.590
He needs to be up by almost 8, 000, 000 when we get to the West coast.

01:02:33.929 --> 01:02:34.250
Yeah.

01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:35.139
Oh, is that right?

01:02:35.219 --> 01:02:35.550
Okay.

01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.039
He'll need to be up by about 8, 000, 000, which may be possible.

01:02:39.530 --> 01:02:40.340
Uh, yeah.

01:02:40.500 --> 01:02:41.440
I mean, that would be.

01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.070
It would be good for the country.

01:02:45.190 --> 01:02:45.630
I think so.

01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:52.844
Like, even for, like, there's gonna be Um, mental health crisis, like, uh, we haven't seen ever before.

01:02:52.914 --> 01:02:54.394
Who was saying that the other day?

01:02:54.394 --> 01:02:57.195
That was, I thought that was somebody like Tucker Carlson, maybe, or something?

01:02:57.195 --> 01:02:59.284
Oh, it was, uh, it was Mark, Mark Halpern, actually.

01:02:59.335 --> 01:02:59.925
Oh, yeah.

01:03:00.014 --> 01:03:01.155
He was saying that.

01:03:01.155 --> 01:03:02.155
I think he's right, actually.

01:03:02.224 --> 01:03:03.105
I think so.

01:03:03.114 --> 01:03:06.065
One way, either way, that this went was going to be pretty troublesome.

01:03:06.125 --> 01:03:12.224
I think Republicans probably would have taken their ball and con home a little bit with a little less Yeah, we know they're cheaters.

01:03:12.644 --> 01:03:13.735
So you kind of, you know, whatever.

01:03:13.735 --> 01:03:20.820
I'm not even a Republican, but There would have been a fight, I think, to some degree, and it would have gone to courts and whatever, but I think you take your ball and go home.

01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:24.090
I think there's truly a sense that this is now, we've elected Hitler.

01:03:24.230 --> 01:03:24.829
Oh, yeah.

01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:26.311
In so many people's heads.

01:03:26.311 --> 01:03:38.329
And the not my president movement will be, like, extreme, and, you know, and, like, I hate it when the Republicans or the Democrats have all three offices.

01:03:38.389 --> 01:03:46.610
Um, and it might be better, like, especially if we've tried to build some efficiency, is to have some consensus.

01:03:47.175 --> 01:03:47.885
I hope so.

01:03:47.965 --> 01:03:53.664
I mean, I, um, Cause it used to mean that when the Republicans have offices, we were going to go spend a bunch more money on war.

01:03:53.945 --> 01:04:01.635
Like that's the way I was conditioned to believe as a young, starting to become a libertarian, you know, heading toward the Ron Paul days.

01:04:01.824 --> 01:04:02.105
Yeah.

01:04:02.394 --> 01:04:04.304
Um, and so I was cynical about it.

01:04:04.445 --> 01:04:04.724
Yeah.

01:04:05.034 --> 01:04:07.664
Well, I think I'd rather have those loggerheads.

01:04:07.675 --> 01:04:08.755
Those were real.

01:04:09.224 --> 01:04:09.625
Yeah.

01:04:09.844 --> 01:04:22.255
Now, you know, you know, I think if you could, if you could get enough people that were saying in there that would say, look, we're not going to war and we need to reassess everything, NATO, we need to reassess our conversations about.

01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:30.800
What, what are we doing with our bases in 180,000 countries, or there's not that many countries, but, you know, let's, super 10.

01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:35.630
Maybe we should have some strategic places around the world that look at and say, okay, this is probably good.

01:04:35.630 --> 01:04:38.539
You know, we have, we have some, we do have some reaction time here.

01:04:38.929 --> 01:04:46.099
We do have some, we have interest around the world, and we should probably be thoughtful about those things, but I also think we, we don't need what we've got.

01:04:46.250 --> 01:04:46.460
Right?

01:04:46.460 --> 01:04:51.050
There's no way we need, well, and probably rather than us paying nato.

01:04:51.739 --> 01:04:52.909
They should pay us.

01:04:53.150 --> 01:04:54.110
Oh, a hundred percent.

01:04:54.110 --> 01:04:57.619
Like to put those boats in those bases and whatever.

01:04:57.619 --> 01:04:59.989
Like we can, we could be a contractor for you and I don't know.

01:05:00.050 --> 01:05:00.500
I don't know.

01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:10.789
all you motherfuckers could and that, that actually sounds like a terrible idea because then now all of a sudden we're like, the Empire Right's gonna pay us for protection.

01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.980
I feel like kind of already are though, right?

01:05:12.980 --> 01:05:13.579
We are.

01:05:13.585 --> 01:05:14.045
We already are.

01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:17.539
You could be a benevolent dictator or we could have World War.

01:05:17.570 --> 01:05:18.050
What do you want?

01:05:18.230 --> 01:05:18.844
Yeah, I do think.

01:05:19.570 --> 01:05:22.429
NATO is a massive issue that people don't talk about enough.

01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.280
NATO is one that NATO is even worse than UN really.

01:05:25.300 --> 01:05:25.519
Yeah.

01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:36.880
And it really needs to be addressed to the point at which we say, look, we are not, we are not going any further right now than Germany or Poland, whatever that number is, you know, whatever that, where we're not going any further to the East.

01:05:37.309 --> 01:05:39.349
The whole provocation is about that.

01:05:39.349 --> 01:05:39.909
Yeah, yeah.

01:05:39.949 --> 01:05:40.269
Period.

01:05:40.300 --> 01:05:40.909
A hundred percent.

01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:42.519
It isn't about anything else.

01:05:42.550 --> 01:05:44.000
We, we said we weren't going to do it.

01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.619
It was the deal at the table with Gorbachev, with Jim Baker.

01:05:46.619 --> 01:05:48.980
I mean, when we, and we literally.

01:05:49.724 --> 01:05:56.844
Um, orchestrated a coup in Ukraine to oust a Russia friendly president that was democratically elected.

01:05:57.784 --> 01:06:00.344
So, so then you go, well, why did we do that?

01:06:00.344 --> 01:06:02.474
You know, all these things, but it really was about NATO.

01:06:02.724 --> 01:06:03.255
It was about NATO.

01:06:03.255 --> 01:06:04.465
It was about expansion to NATO.

01:06:04.804 --> 01:06:08.135
And it was about getting more money given to this situation.

01:06:08.135 --> 01:06:15.844
Well, because all those NATO countries have to buy airplanes from our airplane builders and bombs from our bomb builders and all that kind of stuff.

01:06:15.844 --> 01:06:16.105
Yeah.

01:06:16.105 --> 01:06:16.275
Yeah.

01:06:16.275 --> 01:06:16.445
Yeah.

01:06:16.824 --> 01:06:19.815
So, yeah, it's, uh, it's very real.

01:06:19.835 --> 01:06:23.275
And so I think, um, do you need to take that call from your brother?

01:06:23.304 --> 01:06:24.304
Uh, I think so.

01:06:24.304 --> 01:06:25.965
You can step out.

01:06:25.965 --> 01:06:26.425
It's cool.

01:06:26.585 --> 01:06:27.235
You can step out.

01:06:27.244 --> 01:06:29.784
We've lost almost all of our listeners on Spaces by now.

01:06:29.784 --> 01:06:29.985
Yeah.

01:06:29.985 --> 01:06:32.074
It's just my wife, Glenn, is here still.

01:06:32.985 --> 01:06:33.505
Hi, Glenn.

01:06:35.775 --> 01:06:37.864
Well, uh, that's all right.

01:06:37.864 --> 01:06:39.034
It's a long conversation.

01:06:39.184 --> 01:06:47.945
Um, yeah, I, I think, you know, it's pretty, you I do think what we're seeing is a really positive thing for our country.

01:06:48.755 --> 01:06:49.735
I really do think so.

01:06:49.835 --> 01:06:56.704
I think if we can get to where we're where this actually goes in Trump's favor Which it looks very promising tonight so far.

01:06:57.235 --> 01:07:10.969
Well, and hopefully he doesn't become a dictator on day one He's like Tulsi Bobby, all you guys, thanks for being useful to my cause of getting me elected.

01:07:11.219 --> 01:07:25.440
You know, if you think about one of the, one of the most irrational moments, I think in this whole Trump derangement world and land we're living in, I think one of the most complicated pieces of that to me is he did have a term already.

01:07:25.860 --> 01:07:25.880
Yeah.

01:07:26.090 --> 01:07:27.269
And none of that happened.

01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:31.389
And, and if really, you know, you were talking about a.

01:07:31.869 --> 01:07:36.579
dictatorship type of situation, America could have been much worse during COVID.

01:07:36.579 --> 01:07:47.570
If you look at Australia, if you look at places around the world, the UK, other places that were really harshly locked down, uh, Italy, those other places that were just clamped down in a way, China, all of that stuff.

01:07:47.610 --> 01:07:51.420
We, we didn't, we tried, I think he tried his best as he could.

01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:57.849
I don't give him a ton of credit for it, but I think in some instances, I think he had enough instincts to say like, Hey, we.

01:07:58.275 --> 01:08:09.914
Can't do all of this right you want to do I think one of the things that's going to go down as part of what swung this election is like that.

01:08:10.454 --> 01:08:13.784
Don't tell me what to do stuff like that.

01:08:14.144 --> 01:08:21.484
The Barack Obama chiding the black male vote for not showing up for Kamala.

01:08:21.784 --> 01:08:22.095
Yeah.

01:08:22.750 --> 01:08:29.390
I bet it was a five, 10 point swing in the black male vote from that like, Oh, bite me.

01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:38.310
Well, how insulting do you, can you get the way the Democrats, the Democrat, and I don't, this isn't the average rank and file Democrat.

01:08:38.310 --> 01:08:39.350
I'm not speaking about them.

01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:44.720
Democratic leadership treats their voters as if they're infantile children.

01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:48.619
Um, and that they need to obey and be obedient to the situation.

01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:51.380
And here's what we're going to tell you about everything that's happening.

01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.100
This guy's this, he's Hitler.

01:08:53.100 --> 01:08:54.039
He's all this stuff.

01:08:54.250 --> 01:08:54.510
Yeah.

01:08:54.550 --> 01:09:03.989
If they wanted to talk about issues, take it on, but they, but they couldn't get any traction because all the issues were already taken by Trump and the team they'd already been taken.

01:09:04.270 --> 01:09:05.930
Oh, I'm not going to tax overtime either.

01:09:06.060 --> 01:09:09.409
Oh, I'm not going to look silly taxes on tips.

01:09:09.619 --> 01:09:13.489
So by the la, by the time Childcare tax credit, same as yours, just a thousand dollars more.

01:09:14.375 --> 01:09:24.805
Here's, I still amazingly, as long as we, we have this terribly long election season, it's too long, two years for, you know, tomorrow morning, somebody's going to announce they're running for president.

01:09:26.324 --> 01:09:27.074
It's just how it is.

01:09:27.484 --> 01:09:28.475
That's American stuff.

01:09:28.484 --> 01:09:34.875
But truthfully, American elections are still one in the last two weeks of the campaign and without question, Trump was better in the last two weeks.

01:09:34.935 --> 01:09:35.585
For sure.

01:09:35.595 --> 01:09:43.534
And like You know, Harris had the pop right after she announced and she was leading in a lot of the polls a bit and stuff.

01:09:43.994 --> 01:09:57.494
And it started going the other way and Harris team panicked and started trotting her out to unscripted podcasts and events and just a little sample of that and people are like, Oh, she's done.

01:10:00.664 --> 01:10:04.635
I hear Jack had a really good point, which I think is a defensive Kamala in a sense.

01:10:04.635 --> 01:10:08.055
And I think it's a hard place to find yourself and it probably is real.

01:10:08.454 --> 01:10:10.524
She can't say what she wants to say.

01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:16.989
So she, because she knows that what she wants to say is even more destructive than her not saying anything.

01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:19.229
And I think that's probably real.

01:10:19.630 --> 01:10:21.760
You know, I think that's probably accurate.

01:10:21.819 --> 01:10:28.699
Like, she really actually wants to say the things that she was saying when she was running as a primary candidate back against Joe Biden.

01:10:28.970 --> 01:10:29.260
Yes.

01:10:29.329 --> 01:10:35.270
Like, we're going to take their guns, we're going to have to raise corporate taxes, we're going to stop the fracking, we've got a green new deal.

01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:37.350
All these things.

01:10:37.350 --> 01:10:37.369
Yes.

01:10:37.510 --> 01:10:46.460
One of the most telling ones was when she was asked about corporate taxes the other day on one of these interviews and she, you know, they, you can almost see this sort of light bulb golf.

01:10:46.460 --> 01:10:54.770
She's like, well, if you don't have the reporter said, well, if you don't have Congress, how are you going to raise corporate taxes and do some of these things that you needed to cooperate with?

01:10:54.770 --> 01:10:58.109
And she's like, well, well, we have, we have to raise corporate taxes.

01:10:58.180 --> 01:10:59.159
Like, well, that's not the question.

01:10:59.939 --> 01:11:01.199
How are you going to handle this?

01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:06.239
But I don't think she can under, like, I don't think she can say out loud, like, well, we're just going to make it happen.

01:11:06.289 --> 01:11:06.489
Yeah.

01:11:06.489 --> 01:11:06.720
Yeah.

01:11:07.755 --> 01:11:10.055
And I don't think that's, uh, It's not possible also.

01:11:10.135 --> 01:11:11.085
It's part of the problem.

01:11:11.375 --> 01:11:11.675
Yeah.

01:11:11.744 --> 01:11:17.375
So, yeah, I do think, uh, Well, it looks, It's also interesting to, I mean, she's changed her position.

01:11:17.595 --> 01:11:18.444
Oh, on everything.

01:11:18.454 --> 01:11:19.595
Over four years.

01:11:19.604 --> 01:11:24.199
She's from California! Yeah! I mean, she's literally changed her position.

01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:30.619
Like you look at her from like two years ago on the border and she's like, we need a wide open border.

01:11:30.699 --> 01:11:32.529
We're going to look at the root causes of it.

01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:32.970
Yeah.

01:11:33.069 --> 01:11:36.109
And then it's like, now she's like, we need a system.

01:11:36.109 --> 01:11:37.260
We need to close the border.

01:11:37.689 --> 01:11:42.260
It's so like, you see it a lot in politicians too.

01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:48.729
The closer they get to the actual election, they start saying the things that the people want, right?

01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:51.369
They're not just like, well, this is what.

01:11:51.909 --> 01:11:55.550
The radical side wants it's what did the actual people want?

01:11:55.609 --> 01:12:07.260
Well, and I love the I mean, I don't love I hate the Know that we're making fun of Democrats recently I'm sorry for all your Harris voters in Colorado.

01:12:07.289 --> 01:12:20.145
You can hate me if you want to but the like accusations if Trump is elected he's gonna weaponize that the Department of Justice against his enemies Yeah.

01:12:20.244 --> 01:12:20.755
Okay.

01:12:21.614 --> 01:12:36.444
Like you just did for four years, you know, like, like they got a 500 million civil suit for filling out faulty financial statements on a loan that had already been paid back in full.

01:12:37.034 --> 01:12:37.274
Yeah.

01:12:37.324 --> 01:12:38.345
Or a series of loans.

01:12:38.345 --> 01:12:39.454
Right.

01:12:39.454 --> 01:12:41.385
There was no victim.

01:12:41.814 --> 01:12:43.475
Well, here's the interesting thing.

01:12:43.885 --> 01:12:48.024
Can't bring it back to the Kennedy campaign of being an inside observer of that whole.

01:12:48.909 --> 01:12:56.300
Silly terribleness, what they did to him in state after state to sue him to get off the ballot for no legitimate reason.

01:12:56.699 --> 01:13:03.289
And if they had just listened for 10 minutes, they would have found out that what he was, they should have stolen all his ideas instead.

01:13:03.300 --> 01:13:03.960
Well, they would have.

01:13:05.569 --> 01:13:09.819
So let's say he runs independent and he's still on the ballot and he's still got 20 percent of the vote.

01:13:09.869 --> 01:13:12.939
What he, what they would have, if they would have listened for 10 minutes, would have found out.

01:13:13.335 --> 01:13:16.635
Most of his voters, the majority of his voters were Trump voters, right?

01:13:16.875 --> 01:13:23.765
And they would have helped her win the deal, but they're too prideful and too arrogant and too full of themselves to ever get to that place.

01:13:23.784 --> 01:13:29.494
And so they, they sued Kennedy and Shanahan and thank the Lord.

01:13:29.645 --> 01:13:31.095
They just decided both of them.

01:13:31.350 --> 01:13:32.199
Scorcher thing.

01:13:32.260 --> 01:13:33.119
This is it.

01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:34.390
This is not my party.

01:13:34.390 --> 01:13:35.180
This is not who it is.

01:13:35.180 --> 01:13:36.319
It's not where we are.

01:13:36.489 --> 01:13:38.840
I'm done Yeah, they just let it play out a little more.

01:13:38.979 --> 01:13:43.170
Yeah, probably ROFK wouldn't have swung us He would have just kind of backed out.

01:13:43.210 --> 01:13:44.119
New York was a big one.

01:13:44.189 --> 01:13:54.239
I think totally it's his home state Yeah, and they accused him of not being a citizen of that home state because he's married to his wife and they live in California Right now he's lived there for 40 years.

01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:55.140
His birds are there.

01:13:55.170 --> 01:13:58.744
Everything is in New York, you know You Yeah.

01:13:58.814 --> 01:13:59.175
Okay.

01:13:59.175 --> 01:14:02.435
So is it irrational to think that he has to keep a residence?

01:14:02.444 --> 01:14:03.274
And it's the same thing.

01:14:03.274 --> 01:14:12.055
It's, it's the, it's the using the, the department of the state, the, the, the enforcement arm as a weapon and the weaponization of.

01:14:12.579 --> 01:14:15.020
Law is just such a terrible precedent.

01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:16.420
It's terrible.

01:14:16.420 --> 01:14:19.279
And I think when they did that to him in New York, that was the end.

01:14:19.289 --> 01:14:19.520
Yeah.

01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:36.045
He was like, okay, so I'm going over here and it's going to cost, you know, you know, I heard Dell big tree at the independent national convention down in Denver and it was really, uh, Which was kind of a heartbreaking convention in many ways because a lot of us had looked forward to that It was sort of this Kennedy was gonna speak.

01:14:36.375 --> 01:14:41.385
He was gonna be the first it was like Labor Day right after it right into September So we were really all excited about it.

01:14:41.385 --> 01:14:44.284
A lot of people had booked their tickets and kept getting these notifications.

01:14:44.284 --> 01:15:09.284
He's cancelling and But Dell was there who was his communications director And he said, you know, I was in the room with all the weight of the world on one man and To make this decision, knowing that it was going to probably destroy friendships, relationships, and he still made the decision that he made, which speaks so much to the character of Kennedy, to me, it really does.

01:15:09.295 --> 01:15:13.305
It was, uh, and you know, I didn't love it at first.

01:15:13.305 --> 01:15:14.744
It was like, gosh, we worked so hard.

01:15:14.744 --> 01:15:16.125
We got all these things, we did all this stuff.

01:15:16.125 --> 01:15:18.895
I was disappointed.

01:15:18.895 --> 01:15:30.890
Almost like at the beginning of your very last essay, you're like, okay, well, Um, here we are, I'm getting ready to, you know, recommend you vote for Trump for president.

01:15:30.939 --> 01:15:45.399
And here's, you know, kind of a summation of the, the story of why, um, and I don't think like when we met, frankly, we've been meeting, you know, at least every three to five months, uh, for the last couple of years.

01:15:45.539 --> 01:15:50.590
And so that's like maybe three podcasts previous, probably until.

01:15:51.225 --> 01:15:53.444
August, neither of us thought that we would vote for Trump.

01:15:53.494 --> 01:15:58.194
No, I knew I wasn't going to die hard for Kennedy.

01:15:58.194 --> 01:16:02.935
I mean, I'm like, he was, he was the most exciting candidate of my lifetime.

01:16:03.715 --> 01:16:12.755
And, um, you know, there's a lot of heartbreak in it for me in the sense that I think he should be president, but I also am a pragmatist.

01:16:12.854 --> 01:16:26.739
And I think when I really look at this whole thing, I would say, If this goes the way it's going to go tonight, and he's in, and he's in Washington, he will be, he will be much more effective in whatever position he's in than he would have ever been as president.

01:16:27.109 --> 01:16:27.710
Oh, totally.

01:16:27.710 --> 01:16:33.739
If he had, um, not had that pressure of forcing a coalition to win.

01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:47.399
Um, and what's so funny is, even back in, like, March, April, And shame on me for my ignorance, but you know, Kamala was like, whatever, a 29 percent approval rating vice president and stuff.

01:16:47.949 --> 01:16:50.659
And I was like, you know, it seems like they're going to dump Biden.

01:16:51.770 --> 01:17:00.750
And, but it feels like Trump would beat Kamala by even more than she would beat Biden and then boom, not true.

01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:06.689
Like it was a much closer race like there's some people that say, oh, I wish we had Biden back or something like that I doubt it.

01:17:06.699 --> 01:17:27.699
No, no, no, but the the the female vote and the like I I had a I had podcast guests recently 240 something men and they were both like, you know, I'm voting for Harris because I I want my, you know, I'm honoring my wife's wishes about, uh, uh, women's body and my daughters.

01:17:28.430 --> 01:17:39.869
Uh, and that, and so there's still single issue voter, like dudes, 40 something year old professional dudes being single issues voters, uh, when they already have kids and stuff.

01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:41.060
It just seems so weird to me.

01:17:41.060 --> 01:17:42.720
The thing though is, um.

01:17:43.555 --> 01:17:46.104
With Trump, he's not even trying to change abortion.

01:17:46.595 --> 01:17:46.795
No.

01:17:46.954 --> 01:17:47.664
Like it's not even an issue.

01:17:47.675 --> 01:17:49.425
Well it shouldn't have ever been a federal issue.

01:17:49.425 --> 01:17:53.914
It was always supposed to be a state issue and, but nobody knows that apparently, you know.

01:17:53.914 --> 01:17:54.845
There's so much.

01:17:55.185 --> 01:17:55.654
Yeah.

01:17:55.814 --> 01:17:56.125
That.

01:17:56.135 --> 01:17:58.034
Propagandizing around that notion.

01:17:58.114 --> 01:17:59.994
That's a really sad one to me.

01:17:59.994 --> 01:18:01.994
I mean abortion sad generally speaking.

01:18:02.225 --> 01:18:11.104
Understand in a country of 350 million people you're going to have existential, you know, or extenuating circumstances that are not describable.

01:18:11.185 --> 01:18:11.454
Yeah.

01:18:12.595 --> 01:18:16.135
It's not, it's not a thing that you can then for.

01:18:16.484 --> 01:18:21.885
Manage on that level, but almost every federal scholar ever said it should be at the state level.

01:18:22.104 --> 01:18:27.024
Like, I mean, I'm sorry, every legal scholar ever said it should be at the state level from a constitutional basis.

01:18:27.385 --> 01:18:30.895
There's no really, there's no reason it's not here.

01:18:31.204 --> 01:18:35.520
You've made this up well, and it should also be what the abortion activists said.

01:18:36.140 --> 01:18:49.670
Back in 1977, you know, it should be rare, legal or whatever, you know, and reluctant, like the fact that the democratic national committee, they got like an abortion wagon in the back in the parking lot or some shit.

01:18:49.670 --> 01:18:51.640
Like, it's really crazy to me.

01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:58.369
Like that, that becomes this sort of, it, then it says to people, abortion pills, it says good, good, kill babies.

01:18:58.479 --> 01:18:58.800
Yeah.

01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:16.039
And it says to people at that point that what's more important is, is this kind of, uh, Celebration of something that at the, at the end of the day is really tragic and it should be between a doctor and a woman that should not, you know, that's their, it's their situation.

01:19:16.100 --> 01:19:18.630
I don't, I'm not a fan of abortion.

01:19:18.630 --> 01:19:19.875
I don't want, you know, I don't want to do it.

01:19:20.024 --> 01:19:26.744
I wouldn't want anybody that I was close to try to talk them all out of it if I could was country again another thing because we spend so much money on war.

01:19:26.744 --> 01:19:30.564
Yeah, we don't have the resources to help those women that actually get into that situation.

01:19:30.805 --> 01:19:32.685
We don't have anything to help them get out of it.

01:19:32.694 --> 01:19:39.274
Well, I sure don't want to throw women in jail if they cross the Oklahoma State line to go to Kansas and get an abortion or whatever.

01:19:39.654 --> 01:19:40.984
Like I'm not up for that.

01:19:41.154 --> 01:19:45.204
And you cannot be pro war and anti abortion.

01:19:45.204 --> 01:19:45.265
Mhm.

01:19:46.395 --> 01:19:56.015
You can't say that you want, that you want to go blow people up overseas and that's the right thing to do and kill people and then say at home, but I'm pro, I'm, you know, I'm pro life.

01:19:56.064 --> 01:20:04.609
Well, that's, sorry, that's my biggest problem with like the majority of the conservative, like A lot of people, the hawk part, the neocons.

01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:05.210
Yeah.

01:20:05.300 --> 01:20:06.880
Is there like, let's go to war.

01:20:06.949 --> 01:20:08.920
And then they're like, but we got a band.

01:20:09.029 --> 01:20:10.979
You've got to pull out all those stops to ban abortion.

01:20:10.979 --> 01:20:11.489
Yeah.

01:20:11.579 --> 01:20:12.829
It doesn't make any sense.

01:20:12.829 --> 01:20:15.380
It's like, okay, so killing overseas is okay.

01:20:15.380 --> 01:20:16.479
But here, yeah.

01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:17.569
Brown people, it's okay.

01:20:17.569 --> 01:20:17.770
Yeah.

01:20:18.149 --> 01:20:18.989
Really sick.

01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:24.159
Well, and especially when you look at abortion stats in our country, it's like, Oh, brown people are okay.

01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:25.270
We can kill them.

01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:25.489
But.

01:20:25.765 --> 01:20:26.984
It's really, it's really tragic.

01:20:26.984 --> 01:20:30.414
So I, I think, uh, you know, this will be an interesting deal to see what happens.

01:20:30.435 --> 01:20:41.145
I, I wish people fundamentally understood like, look, not that you need to leave the place you live and not that everybody, but we need to do more in terms of resources.

01:20:41.154 --> 01:20:46.904
If we're going to do this, we need to figure out how to provide resources either at the state level.

01:20:46.935 --> 01:20:54.215
We need to provide resources at the federal level to say that there's something that we, this is an objective we have, which is that we would like people to have babies.

01:20:54.284 --> 01:20:55.104
And it would be.

01:20:56.845 --> 01:21:05.194
It would be good for people to think that there was actually a consequence to doing the, you know, the, the woo ha and the whatnot, right?

01:21:05.204 --> 01:21:06.715
Like it isn't really a sport.

01:21:09.435 --> 01:21:14.194
Also, even for, you know, whatever.

01:21:14.385 --> 01:21:14.685
Yeah.

01:21:14.694 --> 01:21:24.654
But, and also, you know, in relationship to that, I think abortion is one of those issues that has been used so dramatically to divide American people.

01:21:24.654 --> 01:21:25.024
Yeah.

01:21:25.369 --> 01:21:27.329
That they can't see past it.

01:21:27.329 --> 01:21:36.109
And you're seeing the illustration of it in this election, which is like, you know, we just, I'm going to hold on really tight to this idea that this most important thing is this thing.

01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:43.829
And if you asked somebody in this voting for Harris, I think what they would tell you is that's why they're voting for Harris.

01:21:44.189 --> 01:21:47.189
It's either it's not Trump or it's abortion.

01:21:47.725 --> 01:21:50.164
Those are the only, those are the two things you hear.

01:21:50.215 --> 01:21:50.944
I would agree with that.

01:21:51.015 --> 01:21:53.515
And I don't think that's a, I don't think it's a platform to run on.

01:21:53.515 --> 01:21:59.574
And I also don't think that's anything very valuable in terms of like how to govern a country, you know, I don't think.

01:21:59.585 --> 01:22:11.534
Well, and realistically, how many, you know, if we had a hundred people in the room right now, how many of them would have been impacted by an abortion decision over the last 12 months?

01:22:12.984 --> 01:22:13.345
Three.

01:22:13.864 --> 01:22:14.114
Yeah.

01:22:14.654 --> 01:22:15.295
Maybe five.

01:22:15.545 --> 01:22:15.795
Yeah.

01:22:15.859 --> 01:22:16.890
Two?

01:22:16.890 --> 01:22:17.369
I don't know.

01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:18.260
Not 20.

01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:19.189
No.

01:22:19.310 --> 01:22:20.510
You know, not even close.

01:22:20.569 --> 01:22:26.300
And I think it's disingenuous to think that that's really, like, that this is the only way that the federal government has any say in your life.

01:22:26.300 --> 01:22:27.090
It's abortion.

01:22:27.100 --> 01:22:27.710
Right, right.

01:22:27.859 --> 01:22:29.670
You know, they ruin your life in a lot more ways than that.

01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:30.649
For sure.

01:22:30.699 --> 01:22:32.840
Taxation is a lot more miserable in so many ways.

01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:35.029
And it's more impacting for a lot more people.

01:22:35.170 --> 01:22:35.539
Totally.

01:22:35.539 --> 01:22:54.835
And I think that's, that's a, it's a, It's something that they use, and it's another great line from the campaign that I really loved out of, that Kennedy said, and I have started to hear it being sort of said within the Trump world now, which is, uh, hey, you know, the king and the queen come to the edge of the citadel and they look over.

01:22:55.460 --> 01:23:05.000
And as long as the people down below are fighting, they can go back inside and pop champagne because they know that they're not in danger of losing their power.

01:23:05.350 --> 01:23:08.250
The uh, the Polly market's up to 92.

01:23:08.250 --> 01:23:08.869
9.

01:23:08.869 --> 01:23:10.079
Yeah, I think it's Trump's night.

01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:11.140
We can call it almost.

01:23:11.149 --> 01:23:12.369
I think it's Trump's night.

01:23:12.859 --> 01:23:13.539
I really do.

01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:15.050
It looks really positive all the way around.

01:23:15.050 --> 01:23:18.739
I got 20 bucks coming to me if he gets 300 electoral from my uh, exchange student.

01:23:18.770 --> 01:23:19.750
Where's he sit right now?

01:23:19.770 --> 01:23:20.840
210 is called.

01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:21.539
210 and I, uh.

01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:31.229
Uh, ran the meth, I think, uh, 1 91 if with Harris having California, uh, Washington and Oregon.

01:23:31.260 --> 01:23:31.500
Okay.

01:23:31.500 --> 01:23:35.310
So she's really tech, so she's really at 1 91.

01:23:35.310 --> 01:23:35.640
Yeah.

01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:38.819
Idaho, which is three or four is how much is Idaho right now.

01:23:38.819 --> 01:23:41.069
And e electoral votes hit on Idaho here.

01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:41.880
Yeah.

01:23:41.970 --> 01:23:47.100
This one, it's not called, what's the total on the, on the electorals two 70 to win.

01:23:47.310 --> 01:23:49.050
So, and then two, that one.

01:23:49.050 --> 01:23:49.680
How many electoral?

01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:51.630
So 2 69 plus two 70.

01:23:51.630 --> 01:23:51.810
Okay.

01:23:52.845 --> 01:23:53.414
There we go.

01:23:53.475 --> 01:23:53.954
Four.

01:23:54.045 --> 01:23:54.345
Okay.

01:23:54.345 --> 01:23:56.414
So he's gonna win Idaho without question.

01:23:56.414 --> 01:23:58.484
So you're got, uh, he's at two 14.

01:23:58.604 --> 01:24:00.164
Oh, and I added, uh, Nevada too.

01:24:00.795 --> 01:24:01.814
Uh, Nevada's a swing.

01:24:02.055 --> 01:24:03.194
I don't know that I would go there yet.

01:24:03.194 --> 01:24:04.994
I went off of, uh, 2020.

01:24:05.265 --> 01:24:07.965
He's got, he's got Nevada, I think Trump wins Nevada.

01:24:08.475 --> 01:24:08.774
Okay.

01:24:08.954 --> 01:24:10.694
So then that's, I don't know.

01:24:10.755 --> 01:24:11.625
I mean, that's a swing though.

01:24:11.625 --> 01:24:12.689
That's one of those, that's the thing.

01:24:12.694 --> 01:24:13.784
I gave it to her.

01:24:13.935 --> 01:24:14.324
Oh, you did?

01:24:14.324 --> 01:24:15.015
Okay.

01:24:15.015 --> 01:24:18.194
So what I'm saying, so she goes to 1 91 and what's that?

01:24:18.595 --> 01:24:19.704
What's the rest of the number?

01:24:20.034 --> 01:24:21.685
I don't have my calculator on my phone anymore.

01:24:21.694 --> 01:24:27.515
So Trump to be at 214 and then, uh, Colorado being light blue is interesting to me.

01:24:27.524 --> 01:24:28.965
I am really fascinated by this.

01:24:29.064 --> 01:24:30.734
Oh, it's dark blue on my map over here.

01:24:31.225 --> 01:24:32.444
Have they called Colorado for him?

01:24:32.555 --> 01:24:35.305
Uh, I think they have.

01:24:35.305 --> 01:24:37.114
That's a lot closer than I thought it would be.

01:24:37.555 --> 01:24:56.210
Um, well, I mean, 5543 here and that's still closer than I thought it would be So they've called that for her how about New Mexico, what are we sitting at New Mexico's looking blue It is.

01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:57.869
But I don't know by how much.

01:24:58.359 --> 01:25:00.699
It's about, uh, it's about 50, 000.

01:25:00.699 --> 01:25:01.039
Yeah.

01:25:01.069 --> 01:25:01.636
How many precincts?

01:25:01.636 --> 01:25:06.119
So it's 45, 52, 66 percent reported.

01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:07.840
So yeah, she probably wins that too.

01:25:07.869 --> 01:25:09.409
Um, he's looking pretty good in Arizona.

01:25:09.409 --> 01:25:11.020
Looking good in Arizona, that's good.

01:25:11.020 --> 01:25:12.390
That's a good one, that's important.

01:25:12.750 --> 01:25:14.880
Um, there's California, yeah, there we go.

01:25:14.949 --> 01:25:16.760
Yeah, so the polls just closed.

01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:18.569
California just got added on there.

01:25:18.609 --> 01:25:19.069
Yeah.

01:25:19.654 --> 01:25:24.295
So I, it's 179, 214 in the moment, but yeah, what are you doing?

01:25:24.295 --> 01:25:28.734
If you, if you do the math and give Harris the Oregon, New Mexico.

01:25:30.425 --> 01:25:32.024
Oh, Virginia is tilted blue now.

01:25:32.435 --> 01:25:35.364
So what's, what's Kamala's number then?

01:25:35.854 --> 01:25:40.494
She's sitting at the AP is sitting at 179 to 214.

01:25:40.585 --> 01:25:41.154
Yeah.

01:25:41.604 --> 01:25:50.225
So 270 plus 269 is the, um, 270 plus 269, is that the total number?

01:25:50.324 --> 01:25:50.805
Is that right?

01:25:50.805 --> 01:25:51.185
I think so.

01:25:51.185 --> 01:25:52.204
270 to win.

01:25:52.284 --> 01:25:54.404
270 to win, it's, yeah.

01:25:54.494 --> 01:25:54.814
Is that right?

01:25:55.064 --> 01:25:56.295
So 269 is a tie.

01:25:56.774 --> 01:25:58.295
And I had her, yeah.

01:25:58.895 --> 01:26:02.385
They just added California, which is why I bumped up like crazy.

01:26:03.064 --> 01:26:09.805
But, if she wins the whole West Coast, which I would imagine I would assume so.

01:26:09.864 --> 01:26:13.024
Yeah, he needs to really win Pennsylvania.

01:26:13.255 --> 01:26:15.859
Um, And some of the other states.

01:26:15.869 --> 01:26:16.560
Trump does, you mean?

01:26:16.569 --> 01:26:17.020
Yeah.

01:26:17.420 --> 01:26:20.449
So you don't, you're not calling a blowout in the electoral college yet?

01:26:20.489 --> 01:26:21.180
No, no.

01:26:21.699 --> 01:26:25.500
Um, even though poly market is up to 92.

01:26:25.500 --> 01:26:32.010
3 percent on the general election, I wonder what they have for electoral over under.

01:26:34.939 --> 01:26:36.279
Need to find something out about that.

01:26:36.729 --> 01:26:41.680
Um, so I'm probably going to lose my bet on the, The 300?

01:26:41.810 --> 01:26:44.670
The 300 electoral for Trump, seems like.

01:26:44.770 --> 01:26:52.439
I mean, the tough thing is, Well, You, like, other than the west coast, most of it is red.

01:26:52.590 --> 01:26:56.960
I mean, it's looking pretty much like a landslide.

01:26:56.970 --> 01:26:57.420
Right.

01:26:57.689 --> 01:27:09.135
Just, So North Carolina has got 16, which would put Trump up to two 30, Georgia, 16 up to 2 42, I think.

01:27:09.375 --> 01:27:11.239
Uh, Pennsylvania is 19.

01:27:11.534 --> 01:27:12.255
19.

01:27:12.255 --> 01:27:15.074
Yeah, so that's 2 42 plus 19 is 2 61.

01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:20.199
Michigan is tilted his way big time now.

01:27:20.210 --> 01:27:20.880
Holy cow.

01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:21.909
100, 000 votes.

01:27:22.140 --> 01:27:45.210
It's only 27 percent but Well, Wisconsin's so we 60 percent to and 261 plus 15 is 270 Weight 261 plus 15 is 276 Wisconsin is 10 to 86 Minnesota is 10, 2 96.

01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:47.520
Inso Arizona is 11.

01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.739
That would be 3 0 5.

01:27:50.460 --> 01:27:50.819
Yeah.

01:27:50.850 --> 01:27:52.800
That's, so you, you might win your bet.

01:27:52.859 --> 01:27:53.310
I might win.

01:27:53.310 --> 01:27:53.850
My bet.

01:27:54.300 --> 01:27:54.359
Yeah.

01:27:54.510 --> 01:27:55.289
What are we, what are we saying here?

01:27:55.710 --> 01:28:06.090
Um, 3 0 5, if from, if you wins all the current states, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arizona.

01:28:06.270 --> 01:28:06.329
Yeah.

01:28:09.145 --> 01:28:11.520
Which, right now, they all look pretty pink.

01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:14.395
And that's also, that's if he doesn't win Nevada too.

01:28:14.835 --> 01:28:17.414
Which has not, hasn't decided.

01:28:17.465 --> 01:28:19.145
Yeah, Nevada could still flip Trump.

01:28:19.515 --> 01:28:19.765
Yeah.

01:28:19.774 --> 01:28:21.095
I think that's very possible.

01:28:21.385 --> 01:28:22.824
When Alaska's gonna go Trump.

01:28:23.215 --> 01:28:23.585
Yeah.

01:28:23.654 --> 01:28:25.944
I don't know, so probably only three or something like that.

01:28:26.534 --> 01:28:26.864
Yeah.

01:28:27.645 --> 01:28:30.685
Glenn just sent a polymark it at 94.

01:28:30.685 --> 01:28:31.425
I didn't see that.

01:28:33.005 --> 01:28:33.654
That's great.

01:28:34.805 --> 01:28:36.444
It looks pretty positive, I don't know.

01:28:37.510 --> 01:28:39.670
It looks, I love Glenn.

01:28:40.170 --> 01:28:42.060
Harris can't get a lunch reservation.

01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:48.079
Oh, that's great.

01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:50.689
So yeah, 92.

01:28:50.689 --> 01:28:51.880
5.

01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:53.890
I do think we're in pretty good shape.

01:28:53.890 --> 01:28:55.180
Michigan's looking interesting.

01:28:56.744 --> 01:28:58.715
Oh yeah, this whole Midwest area.

01:28:58.765 --> 01:29:00.645
The blue wall looks, uh.

01:29:00.694 --> 01:29:02.314
Yeah, the blue wall got conquered.

01:29:02.845 --> 01:29:06.444
It's looking like, I mean, Michigan's only 28 percent though, but.

01:29:06.564 --> 01:29:09.904
I'm still surprised they have not called, like, Minnesota still seems pink.

01:29:10.095 --> 01:29:10.484
Yeah.

01:29:10.595 --> 01:29:11.454
Well, it's 11%.

01:29:12.024 --> 01:29:12.385
Okay.

01:29:12.385 --> 01:29:14.255
I mean, they're taking their time in Minnesota.

01:29:14.314 --> 01:29:17.494
Oh yeah, right now it's Donald Trump at 60%, so they haven't gotten Macy's.

01:29:17.494 --> 01:29:20.045
No, they haven't got to Minnesota, they haven't got to Minneapolis yet.

01:29:20.494 --> 01:29:20.814
Yeah.

01:29:20.875 --> 01:29:21.375
Um.

01:29:21.994 --> 01:29:23.215
So, he might not get Minnesota.

01:29:23.225 --> 01:29:25.074
Oh, I didn't think, I didn't count Minnesota in my.

01:29:25.864 --> 01:29:38.864
Tally either did I I don't I don't think 12 percent Interestingly, so AP is not called, Oregon Which is interesting too because usually that's just an automatic.

01:29:38.954 --> 01:29:40.475
So what are we looking at in Oregon?

01:29:40.574 --> 01:29:52.765
Well, it's only it's 5938 right now No, he's, he didn't call it the entirety of the West Coast.

01:29:53.024 --> 01:29:56.085
I think he's, he's going to lose all means they go blue.

01:29:56.095 --> 01:30:02.965
It looks like they did, uh, 18 and only 18 percent also Maine is they do it different.

01:30:02.975 --> 01:30:03.604
That's there.

01:30:03.704 --> 01:30:04.175
That's right.

01:30:04.175 --> 01:30:05.435
It is a portion districts.

01:30:05.435 --> 01:30:05.505
Yeah.

01:30:05.694 --> 01:30:08.164
So they cut it up into, uh, it is.

01:30:08.814 --> 01:30:14.619
Which actually, um, somebody was trying to, uh, I don't know.

01:30:14.619 --> 01:30:22.359
We were with Sawyer and somebody was trying to like, um, get a petition to run our state like Maine does.

01:30:22.939 --> 01:30:23.350
Oh yeah.

01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:25.329
Apportion districts, which I would be in favor.

01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:26.250
So I do.

01:30:26.890 --> 01:30:28.029
I'd say here's another fix.

01:30:28.109 --> 01:30:29.989
If we're going to talk about fixes to American politics.

01:30:29.989 --> 01:30:32.850
You have to uncap the house.

01:30:33.710 --> 01:30:34.500
We've talked about this before.

01:30:34.729 --> 01:30:35.880
You have to uncap the House.

01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:39.270
You have 000 members or 10, 000 members or something.

01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.000
If you do that, the Electoral College becomes very different too.

01:30:42.579 --> 01:30:47.300
Because the Electoral College follows the number of House representatives as well as Senate.

01:30:47.779 --> 01:30:50.100
So if you ended up, you'd have a Can't do that.

01:30:50.779 --> 01:31:02.100
directly, because then those little states wouldn't have dick, like, like if, if you got 500 house representatives and only two senators, well, but let's take a look at Wyoming.

01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:06.890
It would probably be still in relationship or to a portion relationship.

01:31:06.909 --> 01:31:13.859
If you looked at Wyoming, which has 500, 000 people and you took it and you said, look, a district is 30, 000 people, which is really what it should be.

01:31:14.609 --> 01:31:15.590
You're talking about.

01:31:15.824 --> 01:31:17.864
Whatever that is, that's 10, 12 districts.

01:31:17.885 --> 01:31:20.564
That would also be 10 or 12 additional points to the electoral college.

01:31:20.564 --> 01:31:22.984
So the proportions would stay relatively similar.

01:31:23.034 --> 01:31:26.534
Well, yeah, but this, I guess the Senate would still be the bulwark.

01:31:26.664 --> 01:31:32.994
The Senate is still you, the way that it was designed was that the Senate would stay to, yeah.

01:31:32.994 --> 01:31:33.314
Yeah.

01:31:33.635 --> 01:31:36.225
So there really wouldn't be any change to the electoral college.

01:31:36.234 --> 01:31:44.305
Well, there would be, there would be more, but you'd also see, see, that wouldn't work because right now, like North Dakota has.

01:31:44.899 --> 01:31:48.670
To senators and probably to representatives now maybe the four votes.

01:31:48.689 --> 01:32:03.465
Rather for electoral votes But then North Dakota would have not very much the representatives the enhanced Uh, like you'd have to almost count the Senate votes 10 per or something like that.

01:32:03.465 --> 01:32:12.005
Cause otherwise all that, that influence of the, of the small state Senate stuff is going to lose out in the electoral college.

01:32:12.015 --> 01:32:13.765
You're going to get pivoted the other way.

01:32:13.814 --> 01:32:16.045
Well, that's why you had at the beginning of the Republic.

01:32:16.055 --> 01:32:20.765
That's why you had five people in the beginning that all are, were from Virginia.

01:32:21.380 --> 01:32:21.920
You know, or whatever.

01:32:22.069 --> 01:32:22.630
Right, right.

01:32:22.630 --> 01:32:23.510
That's, like, that's what happened.

01:32:23.510 --> 01:32:28.520
And then, and eventually, you started to see that, that, that, That was where the population density was.

01:32:28.529 --> 01:32:30.279
Yeah, that's where, that's the, it was the largest.

01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:37.970
Yeah, but, but in, in what you're talking about, if there was, like, say, California, you know, how many people does California have?

01:32:37.979 --> 01:32:39.250
40 million or something?

01:32:39.260 --> 01:32:39.770
That's a lot.

01:32:39.899 --> 01:32:45.710
So you'd have, what's, yeah, 40 million divided by 30, 000.

01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:53.090
So, like, they would have a double buttload of electoral votes and only two senator electoral votes.

01:32:53.130 --> 01:32:53.489
True.

01:32:54.340 --> 01:32:54.770
True.

01:32:55.265 --> 01:32:59.435
But you'd also have, you have, so you have 38, 30 8 million in California.

01:32:59.435 --> 01:33:02.164
So let's just say they have, they'd have a thousand representatives.

01:33:02.170 --> 01:33:02.645
Yeah, yeah.

01:33:02.675 --> 01:33:04.024
1200 ish, whatever.

01:33:04.114 --> 01:33:05.015
So yeah, a lot.

01:33:05.074 --> 01:33:05.555
A lot.

01:33:06.034 --> 01:33:06.994
And Wyoming had how many?

01:33:07.534 --> 01:33:09.994
12, 500,000 people.

01:33:09.994 --> 01:33:11.645
So divided by 30, 30,000.

01:33:11.899 --> 01:33:17.680
So it, but they're nine or no, no, 19, 19, something like that.

01:33:18.130 --> 01:33:21.670
So I don't know, maybe it's not a fix, but we'll have to work on it.

01:33:21.670 --> 01:33:34.359
A little bit of work on the details of that, but I, I don't know, that would be, it's one of the complaints of the electoral college, which is that, you know, the small states have way too, they're, they're overly disproportionately representative now, which I probably agree with that actually.

01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:34.949
Yeah.

01:33:34.949 --> 01:33:35.500
And it's.

01:33:36.779 --> 01:33:38.329
It is for their own defense, for sure.

01:33:38.430 --> 01:33:50.130
It is for their own defense, but I do think they're probably, you know, California in relationship to the number of people that live in California, Wyoming's Wyoming's vote becomes each person in Wyoming has a lot.

01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:52.710
They have a lot of say in relationship to the electoral college.

01:33:52.710 --> 01:33:53.699
93.

01:33:53.819 --> 01:33:55.500
8 on poly market right now.

01:33:56.159 --> 01:33:57.670
Um, should we make a decision?

01:33:57.670 --> 01:33:57.925
You're, you're right.

01:33:57.925 --> 01:34:00.204
Your, is this your friend or another son?

01:34:00.204 --> 01:34:00.699
This is my brother.

01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:01.380
My youngest son.

01:34:01.380 --> 01:34:01.542
Yeah, youngest son.

01:34:01.555 --> 01:34:02.454
He's just here.

01:34:02.784 --> 01:34:04.404
He came to listen to see how he was doing.

01:34:04.404 --> 01:34:06.024
He was curious about the election, so I said, come by.

01:34:06.024 --> 01:34:06.625
Very interested.

01:34:06.835 --> 01:34:07.284
Yeah.

01:34:07.284 --> 01:34:07.286
Yeah.

01:34:07.734 --> 01:34:08.574
Um, yeah.

01:34:08.574 --> 01:34:08.935
It's up to you.

01:34:09.145 --> 01:34:09.774
We're do you?

01:34:09.805 --> 01:34:09.984
Yeah.

01:34:09.984 --> 01:34:11.604
How, how long do you wanna stay, I guess?

01:34:11.994 --> 01:34:12.055
Yeah.

01:34:12.055 --> 01:34:12.699
I, I, it's a call.

01:34:12.895 --> 01:34:15.324
I think it's a, it's an interesting thing that's happened.

01:34:15.324 --> 01:34:15.654
I think.

01:34:15.744 --> 01:34:17.994
I feel like Trump's in pretty good shape.

01:34:18.055 --> 01:34:18.324
Yeah.

01:34:18.904 --> 01:34:20.305
So, we'll see.

01:34:20.664 --> 01:34:25.585
Yeah, we could, I mean, we can do an amendment in the morning if Harris wins or something like that.

01:34:26.085 --> 01:34:27.135
We can come back tomorrow.

01:34:27.314 --> 01:34:28.935
I'll be much more angry if it happens.

01:34:28.935 --> 01:34:30.364
I was just looking at the Senate thing.

01:34:30.984 --> 01:34:38.234
You know, aside from Arizona where Lake lost and then Maryland where the Democrat won by like 51.

01:34:38.234 --> 01:34:41.845
8 on the Senate, the rest are all pink.

01:34:41.944 --> 01:34:46.744
Uh, I don't think those were changes necessarily to the Senate where I don't, I don't think so.

01:34:46.744 --> 01:34:54.114
I think the Senate was Carrie Lake was not the Senator in, uh, no, she was running to try to unseat him.

01:34:54.475 --> 01:34:58.475
And I don't know what about the Maryland, but I would assume in Maryland that was not a Republican Senator.

01:34:58.979 --> 01:35:00.180
No, I can't imagine.

01:35:00.630 --> 01:35:04.409
Um, um, yeah, I don't know who, yeah, they're all close.

01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:07.000
Uh, Mike Rogers in Michigan.

01:35:07.430 --> 01:35:07.810
Oh, yeah.

01:35:07.810 --> 01:35:08.600
50.

01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:08.600
1%.

01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:08.979
Okay.

01:35:09.100 --> 01:35:09.720
Well, that's good.

01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:10.189
Actually.

01:35:10.189 --> 01:35:11.960
I mean, I don't like Mike Rogers a ton.

01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:13.890
I, I had hoped for Justin Dimash.

01:35:13.890 --> 01:35:14.220
Okay.

01:35:14.220 --> 01:35:14.449
Yeah.

01:35:14.449 --> 01:35:14.720
Oh yeah.

01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:15.319
He's sweet.

01:35:15.670 --> 01:35:27.050
But, uh, but whatever it at least in Montana is going, uh, testers 56 percent of she, um, so John Tester was the Democratic.

01:35:27.430 --> 01:35:27.710
Yeah.

01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:28.800
Senator from Montana.

01:35:28.810 --> 01:35:29.819
Who's, who's running?

01:35:29.939 --> 01:35:30.869
Tim Sheehy.

01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:31.750
Oh, okay.

01:35:31.850 --> 01:35:32.779
I don't really know him.

01:35:33.340 --> 01:35:33.420
Uh.

01:35:33.420 --> 01:35:35.270
There's an independent, Dan Osborne.

01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:35.989
Dan Osborne.

01:35:35.989 --> 01:35:36.960
Yeah, is he in Nebraska?

01:35:37.010 --> 01:35:37.359
Yeah.

01:35:37.569 --> 01:35:38.739
Actually, I'm curious about that race.

01:35:38.739 --> 01:35:39.630
What are we seeing there?

01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:41.029
He's got 50.

01:35:41.170 --> 01:35:42.130
2 percent.

01:35:42.989 --> 01:35:43.600
Does he really?

01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:46.239
Yeah, against Deb Fisher at 49.

01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:47.409
8, the Republican candidate.

01:35:48.739 --> 01:35:49.539
Oh, interesting.

01:35:49.619 --> 01:35:50.869
That's a really interesting race.

01:35:50.869 --> 01:35:53.250
The other one I'm interested in is Dennis Kucinich in Ohio.

01:35:53.369 --> 01:35:53.810
Okay.

01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:55.590
I'm curious how he's doing.

01:35:55.789 --> 01:35:56.640
Um.

01:35:57.324 --> 01:35:58.104
I wonder if he won.

01:35:58.284 --> 01:36:04.364
He, Dennis, Dennis is one of the most principled people you'll ever meet in your life.

01:36:04.654 --> 01:36:07.074
Uh, he was RFK's campaign manager to start.

01:36:07.704 --> 01:36:10.024
And he was, uh, Was he governor race?

01:36:10.194 --> 01:36:11.935
No, this would be a house race.

01:36:12.045 --> 01:36:14.795
And he was, uh, interested in being, he was running as an independent.

01:36:15.305 --> 01:36:16.274
And I'm curious how he did.

01:36:16.274 --> 01:36:16.824
Oh, interesting.

01:36:17.274 --> 01:36:22.153
Um, Kucinich is a really good man, uh, he and Ron Paul were the Dr.

01:36:22.153 --> 01:36:23.465
Nos of the House.

01:36:23.465 --> 01:36:24.064
Oh, I like it.

01:36:25.024 --> 01:36:27.265
Totally opposite sides of the, of the deal.

01:36:27.564 --> 01:36:35.505
You know, Kucinich comes from a pretty liberal life and, you know, what he thought government should be able to do and what he thinks government should do.

01:36:36.024 --> 01:36:39.229
But, uh, He and Ron Paul were always on the same side about war.

01:36:39.329 --> 01:36:41.270
They were always on the same side about money.

01:36:41.329 --> 01:36:45.289
They were always on the same side about, uh, a bunch of things, which is really, really interesting.

01:36:45.779 --> 01:36:47.020
I don't, I don't find him.

01:36:47.060 --> 01:36:49.359
I'll look it up real quick while we're to and so, um.

01:36:49.369 --> 01:36:54.060
I'm finding a couple of, uh, Ohio House races, but not the Kucinich ones.

01:36:54.210 --> 01:36:54.539
Let me see.

01:36:56.699 --> 01:36:57.199
New York Times.

01:36:57.199 --> 01:36:58.710
Why is this still even on my phone?

01:36:58.710 --> 01:36:59.810
Okay.

01:37:01.194 --> 01:37:06.545
Um, So Emerson, uh, is this your first time on a podcast?

01:37:07.395 --> 01:37:09.954
Or have you been on your dad's podcast or anything like that?

01:37:10.005 --> 01:37:12.595
I believe, I think I've been on my dad's.

01:37:12.654 --> 01:37:14.180
We did the, uh, book one, didn't we?

01:37:14.659 --> 01:37:17.069
Yeah, I've been on his podcast once.

01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:17.640
Yeah.

01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:20.420
Uh, yeah, this is like my first time really being on a podcast.

01:37:20.430 --> 01:37:21.630
Long form action.

01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:22.319
Yeah.

01:37:22.529 --> 01:37:24.819
Um, this is new, so.

01:37:24.829 --> 01:37:29.020
Sorry we lost so many people from our spaces during the course of this conversation.

01:37:29.020 --> 01:37:31.149
Well, next time we can figure it out.

01:37:31.149 --> 01:37:36.539
Uh, it doesn't look like Kucinich is going to pull that off, but uh, looks like a Republican will win that seat.

01:37:38.130 --> 01:37:48.699
It's interesting, that's a, uh, That's a seat surrounding, uh, he was, I thought that was Cincinnati area looks or Cleveland.

01:37:49.010 --> 01:37:50.199
He's South of Cleveland.

01:37:50.310 --> 01:37:54.130
Kucinich is, and he'd always held that seat actually as a Democrat.

01:37:54.810 --> 01:37:58.479
Um, but it looks like boy, Ohio has turned pretty red.

01:37:58.779 --> 01:37:59.600
Goodness sakes.

01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:00.460
Yeah.

01:38:01.289 --> 01:38:01.880
Oh, wow.

01:38:01.989 --> 01:38:02.319
Yeah.

01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:05.399
600, 000 vote lead there.

01:38:05.619 --> 01:38:05.909
Yeah.

01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:08.880
I remember Ohio wasn't too long ago, and that was one of the very swings.

01:38:09.569 --> 01:38:10.930
Bush, very struggled.

01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:12.239
It's also 90%.

01:38:13.185 --> 01:38:15.545
Reporting to so it's not like it's early.

01:38:15.635 --> 01:38:22.990
It's Pennsylvania 57 percent reporting and it says 73.

01:38:22.990 --> 01:38:35.005
Oh, well How many votes apart are they Oh, they're just updated for me the same Yeah, almost two hundred two hundred thousand two hundred thousand part.

01:38:35.034 --> 01:38:35.284
Yeah.

01:38:35.404 --> 01:38:41.774
Okay, so Pennsylvania is looking pretty solid at that point Well, they only Take a late dump.

01:38:42.265 --> 01:38:43.354
Yeah, well.

01:38:43.954 --> 01:38:46.055
Let's see if they can bring the pickup trucks in.

01:38:47.185 --> 01:38:47.885
With all the stuff.

01:38:47.885 --> 01:38:48.914
They got the ballot stuff.

01:38:48.935 --> 01:38:51.215
Yeah, that's the saddest commentary on America.

01:38:51.225 --> 01:38:52.505
Well, and like We need to fix it.

01:38:52.505 --> 01:38:59.055
Try to pass laws to make it illegal to record voting ballot drop boxes.

01:38:59.164 --> 01:39:02.574
Make it illegal to show your ID when you're voting.

01:39:03.074 --> 01:39:03.904
Uh, none of it makes sense.

01:39:03.965 --> 01:39:05.465
Like, what are we talking about here?

01:39:05.475 --> 01:39:14.494
Yeah, most people that are from, like Alternative worlds, like, uh, you know, if you use alternative was other countries, right?

01:39:16.614 --> 01:39:20.284
Even I'm sure aliens, I'm sure people from weird places.

01:39:20.295 --> 01:39:23.664
Most of those people are like, you don't show your ID to vote?

01:39:23.994 --> 01:39:24.345
Right?

01:39:24.345 --> 01:39:24.515
What?

01:39:24.515 --> 01:39:24.904
Yeah.

01:39:24.975 --> 01:39:27.585
Like we were just listening on the way over Puerto Rico.

01:39:27.734 --> 01:39:29.864
They dip their thumbs and die.

01:39:29.965 --> 01:39:30.265
Right.

01:39:30.414 --> 01:39:31.404
Well, honestly.

01:39:31.414 --> 01:39:32.335
And it's all paper.

01:39:32.435 --> 01:39:32.744
Yeah.

01:39:32.904 --> 01:39:33.895
Why are we not doing?

01:39:34.125 --> 01:39:34.715
I mean, I.

01:39:35.234 --> 01:39:37.614
Don't disagree with that, because it would make an effective audit.

01:39:37.645 --> 01:39:43.114
Like, Jill and I used our mail in ballots, and just filled them out, and I just dropped them off this morning, actually.

01:39:43.114 --> 01:39:44.975
I like to be a day of voter, it's kind of fun.

01:39:44.975 --> 01:39:54.425
But, like, there is absolutely zero guarantee that somebody couldn't have come and grabbed those ballots out of my mailbox, filled them out.

01:39:54.835 --> 01:39:55.875
Sign my name to it.

01:39:56.034 --> 01:39:58.425
And I would have been like, Oh, did we even get a ballot?

01:39:59.154 --> 01:40:04.875
You know, especially if you went to places where they haven't voted for 20 years and they live there for 20 years, you're like, Oh, they won't miss these.

01:40:04.875 --> 01:40:11.215
Well, I have to, I mean, I have to actually say this because it actually happened to me, which is, you know, we have a house in Glenwood.

01:40:11.274 --> 01:40:11.625
Oh, yeah.

01:40:12.034 --> 01:40:13.274
Which is district three.

01:40:13.305 --> 01:40:14.145
And we have a house.

01:40:14.484 --> 01:40:15.095
We live here.

01:40:15.145 --> 01:40:15.444
Oh.

01:40:15.914 --> 01:40:17.085
But I got a ballot in both places.

01:40:17.145 --> 01:40:17.664
Oh, really?

01:40:17.715 --> 01:40:17.975
Yeah.

01:40:17.975 --> 01:40:18.255
Oh, yeah.

01:40:18.265 --> 01:40:19.185
Did you vote for twice?

01:40:19.314 --> 01:40:19.875
No twice.

01:40:19.875 --> 01:40:30.085
I Didn't but I you know, but you I turned it back in but how many people didn't for sure, you know I'm not sure I wouldn't have voted twice.

01:40:30.614 --> 01:40:32.864
I just like I forgot, you know, I don't know.

01:40:33.314 --> 01:40:43.069
I still have some Well imagine if you had But you know, if you, if you had nine properties around the state, well, you'd get one at every one of them.

01:40:43.210 --> 01:40:56.340
You know, the other, the other aspect to that is like, if you, if you think about it, if you have created a situation in the press in that this is the most existential threat of your lifetime, it's Donald Trump is, is Hitler, right, made that correlation.

01:40:57.114 --> 01:41:01.425
Would you not look at that and say, the moral, the moral choice for me is to vote in both places?

01:41:01.494 --> 01:41:01.824
Yeah.

01:41:01.984 --> 01:41:02.824
No, yeah, for sure.

01:41:03.255 --> 01:41:04.305
And vote Harris.

01:41:04.494 --> 01:41:05.765
And vote Harris in both places.

01:41:05.765 --> 01:41:07.164
I mean, I've got to, you know.

01:41:07.574 --> 01:41:10.364
Like, I am saving the republic because of this.

01:41:10.375 --> 01:41:19.734
Now that we're here, um, what would you say, uh, are the odds that Trump, uh, is inducted into the office?

01:41:20.395 --> 01:41:22.904
Or will he potentially be assassinated before taking office?

01:41:22.914 --> 01:41:23.725
Oh, I can't say that.

01:41:24.064 --> 01:41:24.725
I mean, I don't know.

01:41:24.725 --> 01:41:25.074
I know.

01:41:25.074 --> 01:41:26.024
It's a hard question.

01:41:26.064 --> 01:41:26.534
Uh.

01:41:28.170 --> 01:41:29.000
I hope he's not.

01:41:29.020 --> 01:41:36.779
I mean, I hope that that's not the case that, that obviously, uh, you know, but we have in that case would, uh, Vance would be the president.

01:41:36.779 --> 01:41:37.630
Yeah.

01:41:37.630 --> 01:41:38.090
Yeah.

01:41:38.310 --> 01:41:39.859
That was part of why he picked Vance.

01:41:39.890 --> 01:41:43.260
Cause it's like, you want, you want somebody worse than me?

01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:43.579
Yeah.

01:41:43.579 --> 01:41:44.380
Go ahead and suck it.

01:41:44.710 --> 01:41:49.609
I think it would, uh, sorry, I get a little naughty sometimes.

01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:53.760
It's uh, I, here's what I would wonder if.

01:41:56.085 --> 01:41:58.824
What you'll see is just a list of obstructions.

01:41:58.845 --> 01:42:05.265
I think for the next couple of weeks, you're going to just see reporting of all these, Contesting of different things, abnormalities.

01:42:05.444 --> 01:42:08.635
Look at these, it just didn't work and this didn't happen and all these things happened.

01:42:08.635 --> 01:42:09.545
I think you'll see that.

01:42:10.024 --> 01:42:11.774
I think you'll see a lot of screaming.

01:42:11.814 --> 01:42:15.675
I think you'll see a, you know, and all of a sudden it'll be okay to contest elections.

01:42:16.034 --> 01:42:18.375
It'll be okay to protest the electoral college.

01:42:19.064 --> 01:42:27.465
It'll be okay to say we shouldn't certify the Electoral College on the day of it's all that's going to come back like it did in 2016, it will be a Russia's psyop.

01:42:27.555 --> 01:42:31.265
This is all Russia doing this because they want to end the war.

01:42:31.645 --> 01:42:34.435
And we really the noble thing to do is continue in Ukraine.

01:42:34.475 --> 01:42:38.734
All of that's going to happen, I think, out of this, sadly, shouldn't be the case.

01:42:38.734 --> 01:42:42.944
But yeah, the other piece that I think will be really, really fascinating.

01:42:42.944 --> 01:42:54.845
I said this earlier on Twitter tonight, which was If the media, which has made it into the screaming lady, if the media has done what they've done, which is try to make this into this, you know, 0.

01:42:54.885 --> 01:42:58.645
006 percent horse race for what it is.

01:42:59.984 --> 01:43:05.824
And X has been really close and is closer to what's actually happened.

01:43:06.505 --> 01:43:10.194
It is the end of like, they should never be listened to again.

01:43:10.274 --> 01:43:11.795
You should never listen to ABC again.

01:43:11.835 --> 01:43:13.564
Trump just went up to two 30.

01:43:13.574 --> 01:43:14.324
What did he pick up?

01:43:14.704 --> 01:43:17.515
Uh, he finalized North Carolina, I'm pretty sure.

01:43:17.875 --> 01:43:19.314
Oh, they gave him North Carolina.

01:43:19.404 --> 01:43:19.524
Yeah.

01:43:19.595 --> 01:43:20.194
That's big.

01:43:20.725 --> 01:43:21.034
Yep.

01:43:21.354 --> 01:43:22.055
That's big.

01:43:22.375 --> 01:43:24.984
And Georgia's Georgia will be finalized pretty soon.

01:43:25.074 --> 01:43:27.965
Yeah, it's uh, 51 48.

01:43:27.965 --> 01:43:29.454
How's Pennsylvania looking?

01:43:29.494 --> 01:43:30.085
Where are we at?

01:43:30.145 --> 01:43:31.364
Uh, pretty good.

01:43:31.944 --> 01:43:33.095
51 47.

01:43:34.484 --> 01:43:36.064
And how many votes apart are they?

01:43:36.595 --> 01:43:38.284
Uh, about, uh, what?

01:43:38.465 --> 01:43:40.635
30, 000?

01:43:40.635 --> 01:43:40.904
Yeah.

01:43:40.954 --> 01:43:41.255
Okay.

01:43:41.255 --> 01:43:41.314
That's pretty good.

01:43:41.994 --> 01:43:42.494
On yours.

01:43:43.104 --> 01:43:43.265
Yeah.

01:43:43.265 --> 01:43:45.305
The other 70, 76 percent reporting.

01:43:46.404 --> 01:43:46.694
Oh yeah.

01:43:46.694 --> 01:43:48.194
So we've got on yours.

01:43:48.265 --> 01:43:49.024
How many you have?

01:43:49.055 --> 01:43:52.895
You're at a 51 48 basically.

01:43:53.175 --> 01:43:53.395
Yeah.

01:43:53.395 --> 01:43:54.375
51 48.

01:43:54.515 --> 01:43:54.824
Yeah.

01:43:54.895 --> 01:44:00.114
And the spread is almost 200, 150, 170, 170, 000.

01:44:00.284 --> 01:44:00.564
Yep.

01:44:01.414 --> 01:44:05.914
So it looks pretty positive likely and Michigan too.

01:44:06.484 --> 01:44:10.185
It's only 31%, but it's 52, 46.

01:44:10.385 --> 01:44:19.835
He doesn't need, if he wins, if he wins Pennsylvania, he doesn't need, he only needs, he only needs Arizona.

01:44:20.675 --> 01:44:22.715
Oh, he doesn't even need He doesn't need any of those.

01:44:22.715 --> 01:44:24.524
He only needs, he only needs Arizona.

01:44:25.395 --> 01:44:26.545
What if he does win these though?

01:44:26.805 --> 01:44:30.064
Then it's, then I get my 20 bucks from winning.

01:44:30.064 --> 01:44:31.255
Then you get your 20 bucks.

01:44:32.055 --> 01:44:33.364
So let's do that math.

01:44:33.364 --> 01:44:34.824
Pennsylvania's the 20 what?

01:44:34.845 --> 01:44:35.345
How many is it?

01:44:35.345 --> 01:44:35.645
20?

01:44:36.255 --> 01:44:36.675
Pennsylvania.

01:44:36.675 --> 01:44:37.784
Uh, Pennsylvania's 19.

01:44:37.914 --> 01:44:38.574
19.

01:44:38.795 --> 01:44:39.725
And Arizona's what?

01:44:40.375 --> 01:44:42.824
AZ is 11.

01:44:42.824 --> 01:44:43.895
And Georgia is what?

01:44:44.595 --> 01:44:45.654
Uh, Georgia is 16.

01:44:46.484 --> 01:44:48.625
So if you take 16, let's do that math.

01:44:48.765 --> 01:44:49.164
I got it.

01:44:50.635 --> 01:44:54.645
16 and uh, 19.

01:44:54.645 --> 01:44:57.534
19 and 11.

01:44:57.534 --> 01:44:57.755
Yeah.

01:44:57.755 --> 01:44:58.835
So 46.

01:44:58.835 --> 01:44:59.885
Plus 130.

01:45:00.675 --> 01:45:01.864
Uh, 230.

01:45:02.795 --> 01:45:04.194
276, so he wins.

01:45:05.329 --> 01:45:23.529
So if he basically secures Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona Yes If he wins those, he's, he wins Yep And I, I think, I have a strong feeling about Arizona Because it's Even though it's only 50 percent reporting, they've already done the big cities.

01:45:23.529 --> 01:45:24.840
Phoenix and Tucson are in.

01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:26.319
Um, Yeah.

01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:27.189
That's interesting.

01:45:27.210 --> 01:45:29.789
It's actually kind of a criticism of Carrie Lake, right?

01:45:29.789 --> 01:45:31.689
If she can lose while Trump wins.

01:45:31.949 --> 01:45:36.819
Uh, yeah, it's still, politics is still about the Canada.

01:45:36.859 --> 01:45:37.329
Yeah.

01:45:37.430 --> 01:45:37.909
Yeah, yeah.

01:45:38.189 --> 01:45:41.270
It needs to be, you coattails of somebody.

01:45:41.270 --> 01:45:43.430
And Trump is illustrating that I think really well.

01:45:43.430 --> 01:45:46.939
Like he's, he isn't a wildly popular guy.

01:45:47.170 --> 01:45:47.390
Yeah.

01:45:47.390 --> 01:45:47.699
Yeah.

01:45:47.770 --> 01:45:48.720
He, he isn't.

01:45:49.664 --> 01:45:53.645
He's built enough people around him, again, I still think that's one of those coalition moves.

01:45:53.694 --> 01:45:57.324
This coalition of Trump and, uh, with all these people around him.

01:45:57.715 --> 01:46:00.095
And putting those people on the road for the last month.

01:46:01.034 --> 01:46:02.274
Oh, in Tucker's roadshow?

01:46:02.354 --> 01:46:03.085
Oh my gosh.

01:46:03.125 --> 01:46:04.185
How influential is that?

01:46:04.185 --> 01:46:13.465
Oh, with, uh, you know, everybody from freakin uh, who's the crazy former drug crazy dude now Christian dude?

01:46:13.774 --> 01:46:15.564
Um, uh.

01:46:15.694 --> 01:46:16.505
British dude.

01:46:16.505 --> 01:46:16.640
British dude.

01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:17.569
Crazy.

01:46:17.579 --> 01:46:18.069
Russell Brand.

01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:19.020
Russell Brand.

01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:22.500
Tucker's conversation with Russell Brand was too good.

01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:42.595
Like think about how many people that, like, I'm not saying that Russell Brand influences how people vote, but it opens the door for people from a totally alternative lifestyle to be both pro MAGA, MAHA, and, um, Christians, frankly.

01:46:42.965 --> 01:46:50.604
Uh, that all the shitty things you've done aren't really gonna be held against you if you take the right perspective on it.

01:46:50.895 --> 01:46:58.435
I have, I've said it, we did this Maha Voices series, which Glenn was a part of, which was really cool.

01:46:58.494 --> 01:46:58.725
Yeah.

01:46:59.215 --> 01:47:06.725
Which was 13 stories of people that were Democrats that moved to vote for Trump and actually volunteered for Trump.

01:47:06.734 --> 01:47:10.765
We had people actually volunteering, knocking on doors in Arizona.

01:47:10.824 --> 01:47:12.175
One of my favorite is Scarlett.

01:47:12.185 --> 01:47:15.385
She's a, um, she's an Asian Chinese American.

01:47:16.034 --> 01:47:24.265
And, um, she, is, has been every weekend driving to Nevada and Arizona to go knock on doors on campus for Trump.

01:47:24.515 --> 01:47:24.994
Oh, wow.

01:47:25.194 --> 01:47:33.814
Because she, you know, she knows California's fait accompli, so she's, she and friends are loading up a car, driving over the pass and going over to knock on doors to see if they can get Trump elected.

01:47:34.484 --> 01:47:39.024
It's a really fabulous story to go from, Um, you know, I'm, I could never vote for Donald Trump.

01:47:39.024 --> 01:47:41.984
I had one lady was like, I was Trump derangement syndrome.

01:47:41.984 --> 01:47:47.074
I went home on 2016, cried, you know, teary, terrible, horrible deal.

01:47:47.404 --> 01:47:49.534
And I'm now volunteering for Trump.

01:47:50.175 --> 01:47:52.805
Like that's the span in eight years to go from there.

01:47:53.395 --> 01:48:02.074
That story I've said all along as we were doing that, that one of the things that I thought was most important is to get people, you have to give people in electoral politics permission to move.

01:48:02.715 --> 01:48:04.984
You have to be able to say, I can do that too.

01:48:05.505 --> 01:48:06.625
I can vote for Trump too.

01:48:06.814 --> 01:48:07.625
I can do that too.

01:48:08.274 --> 01:48:20.234
The Russell Brands, the, the people that Tucker brought on stage, the Nicole Shanahan's, when she brings out and says, even though the novelty of my own name on my ballot, which won't make a difference in California, I'm voting for Donald Trump.

01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:26.390
And cheering, you know, that gives people so much permission to move the needle and say, okay, I can do this too.

01:48:26.949 --> 01:48:35.439
I'm not, I'm not the pariah because Trump has been so vilified that if you've ever said out loud that you're voting for Trump, you lose everything.

01:48:35.470 --> 01:48:40.060
I mean, there's no, there's no Trump signs in old town for where I live.

01:48:40.060 --> 01:48:40.890
No, there's a.

01:48:41.289 --> 01:48:45.600
Not very many Harry Balls signs, Harris Walls signs, I'm sorry.

01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:52.810
Um, but not nearly as many as there have been in the past.

01:48:53.239 --> 01:48:56.840
Um, one more topical thing I wanted to ask about.

01:48:57.369 --> 01:49:09.750
Um, What do you think about the impact and the motivations of Washington Post, USA Today, LA Times withholding their endorsement over the last week?

01:49:10.250 --> 01:49:13.859
And and I want to say that from two perspectives.

01:49:13.930 --> 01:49:25.295
Yeah, like the cynical part of me is like Maybe Donald Trump actually is some kind of a Hitler and they're just trying to make sure they're not on the wrong side of him After he gets in the office, right?

01:49:25.335 --> 01:49:26.364
They may have that perspective.

01:49:26.364 --> 01:49:39.145
Yes, they may or maybe they have the perspective of God freakin Kamala was a terrible candidate and we didn't even go through a primary process to get her in there and she's Going down and we're not gonna be part of it.

01:49:39.854 --> 01:49:41.225
I think it's part of that.

01:49:41.225 --> 01:49:52.095
But I also think You have like, they have lost their credibility and to say, she's going to win by a double now.

01:49:52.114 --> 01:49:52.645
Yeah.

01:49:52.944 --> 01:50:12.604
Um, I think at least this next, I'm going to say most likely when Trump wins, um, this next four years, they're going to try to either a regain some of that credibility or be just don't care and bury themselves.

01:50:12.755 --> 01:50:18.954
Uh, Which is probably what will happen, but you could fix the Washington Post.

01:50:19.204 --> 01:50:22.265
Mm hmm If, if somebody gave me the keys to the castle.

01:50:22.265 --> 01:50:23.225
They're closer.

01:50:23.845 --> 01:50:27.835
If, if you, if you gave me the keys to the castle I could fix the Washington Post in six months.

01:50:28.515 --> 01:50:30.335
You could restore credibility in six months.

01:50:30.744 --> 01:50:34.045
Hire honest reporters to go do investigative journalism about the government.

01:50:34.345 --> 01:50:35.854
That's what the Washington Post is there for.

01:50:35.875 --> 01:50:36.354
Right.

01:50:36.395 --> 01:50:38.045
It's 100 percent of why that paper exists.

01:50:38.284 --> 01:50:39.935
Well isn't, yeah, that's the origin, right?

01:50:40.015 --> 01:50:41.324
Especially for the Washington Post.

01:50:41.324 --> 01:50:42.904
It's the Washington Post's heritage.

01:50:42.984 --> 01:50:43.475
Right.

01:50:43.475 --> 01:50:44.484
It's like, this is what you do.

01:50:44.494 --> 01:50:45.284
You go do investigative.

01:50:45.284 --> 01:50:46.675
Tell us what these motherfuckers are doing.

01:50:46.675 --> 01:50:46.694
Yeah.

01:50:46.694 --> 01:50:46.835
Yeah.

01:50:46.835 --> 01:50:46.975
Yeah.

01:50:47.125 --> 01:50:50.534
Do it! Like, you could fix the Washington Post in six months.

01:50:50.564 --> 01:50:55.645
If I was hired and they said, Okay, here's the keys to the kingdom you have, you know, And actually, you need to cut your budget in half.

01:50:55.694 --> 01:50:56.505
I could still do it.

01:50:57.125 --> 01:50:59.664
I could still figure out how to solve that pavers problem.

01:51:00.095 --> 01:51:03.314
And it really would just come down to like, Okay, who wants to do investigative journalism?

01:51:03.435 --> 01:51:03.755
Yeah.

01:51:04.005 --> 01:51:05.774
Who wants to go do the deal?

01:51:05.774 --> 01:51:10.845
Actually unfold who's influencing this legislation and that one and who's Yeah, yeah.

01:51:10.875 --> 01:51:11.614
No, I dig that.

01:51:11.685 --> 01:51:23.479
And so I think the non endorsement piece, At the end of the day, which I know this probably too well because of situations I have found myself in in my life in relationship to Jeff Bezos.

01:51:24.390 --> 01:51:29.069
The reality is, is that guy is a business dude and he's brutal.

01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:29.420
Right.

01:51:29.439 --> 01:51:30.989
He's a brutal businessman.

01:51:31.380 --> 01:51:32.109
Ruthless.

01:51:33.050 --> 01:51:35.340
He knows what he's invested in needs to be fixed.

01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:46.319
Yeah, and I think at the end of it That's what is really hot happening Yeah And I think he's gonna say like we don't endorse and we don't do this because I need to clean the house of you people Who are sycophants?

01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:47.810
Yeah, who won't do this?

01:51:48.170 --> 01:51:55.510
Yeah, so he's not dumb Do you think he accidentally had the timing he did or no, he knows what he's doing.

01:51:55.590 --> 01:51:59.225
Yeah, he's He's way too calculated.

01:51:59.454 --> 01:52:01.064
I'll just, I'm going to leave it at that.

01:52:01.085 --> 01:52:03.664
He's never been snuck up on by a surprise, hardly.

01:52:03.664 --> 01:52:07.345
No, no, he's way too calculated on what he's doing and what he is.

01:52:07.395 --> 01:52:13.145
And I don't have any inclination to think that this was all just like one afternoon.

01:52:13.145 --> 01:52:15.795
He walked in and was like, you know what, guys, we probably ought to not do this.

01:52:15.854 --> 01:52:16.175
Right.

01:52:16.194 --> 01:52:21.255
He knew when he was doing it and why he was doing it down to the nth degree of what's going on.

01:52:21.255 --> 01:52:23.645
And I think, um, I think the post.

01:52:24.619 --> 01:52:32.319
I think the press in general is going to have a massive, uh, comeuppance in relationship to Twitter.

01:52:32.390 --> 01:52:33.350
Do you think they could fragment again?

01:52:34.989 --> 01:52:35.329
Oh, I hope so.

01:52:35.329 --> 01:52:38.250
Like, they've rolled up the whole, all these local newspapers and stuff.

01:52:38.250 --> 01:52:44.000
Do you think it could be more of a viable business model if you re localize newspapers and that kind of thing?

01:52:44.180 --> 01:52:46.250
Well I mean, it wouldn't have to just be newspapers.

01:52:46.250 --> 01:52:48.359
It'd have to be community building.

01:52:48.789 --> 01:52:51.810
Ray, you'd have to have that purpose of actually place making.

01:52:51.869 --> 01:52:52.069
doing?

01:52:52.069 --> 01:52:52.640
Yeah, what are you doing?

01:52:52.640 --> 01:52:53.609
What is your purpose?

01:52:53.630 --> 01:52:53.869
Yeah.

01:52:54.189 --> 01:52:57.220
If you're the New York Times, then tell us what's going on in New York.

01:52:57.539 --> 01:53:04.130
Or whatever wrote I, you know, the AP UPI stuff is the worst thing that ever happened in news.

01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:04.609
Totally.

01:53:04.729 --> 01:53:05.930
It's the worst thing that ever happened.

01:53:05.930 --> 01:53:06.229
Totally.

01:53:06.260 --> 01:53:13.710
'cause pretty soon the, the Colorado one had 89% of the same content as the Portland Sun, as the Minneapolis.

01:53:13.710 --> 01:53:16.649
Well, the only thing that was different was the obituary Right.

01:53:16.649 --> 01:53:21.210
And nobody, neither classifieds for a while while those lived still, you know, before Facebook marketplace.

01:53:21.300 --> 01:53:21.539
Yeah.

01:53:22.234 --> 01:53:31.034
You watch what's happening on Substack and you look at people like Jessica Reed Krauss in House Inhabit, which I think is like the model for how you do investigative, interesting journalism.

01:53:32.289 --> 01:53:47.489
Between her coverage of Johnny Depp's trial, between her coverage of the RFK campaign, her coverage of Trump in this election, what she did to build her brand, to have 400, 000 subscribers on Substack, where she's making money doing that.

01:53:47.625 --> 01:53:49.895
She's found a way to show that you can do this.

01:53:50.225 --> 01:53:52.024
You can be an investigative journalist.

01:53:52.074 --> 01:53:53.345
You can be an honest journalist.

01:53:53.354 --> 01:53:58.645
You can do journalism, which is as Tucker Carlson says, stick your head out the window and tell us what's going on.

01:53:59.114 --> 01:54:03.015
It's not, it's the easiest job in the world is what he said.

01:54:03.715 --> 01:54:06.420
If you do that, then you can actually make a living at this.

01:54:06.770 --> 01:54:10.859
Because it's honest, you know, she, she didn't shy away from what happened.

01:54:10.899 --> 01:54:12.489
She didn't shy away from the scandals.

01:54:12.500 --> 01:54:14.829
She didn't shy away from the stuff that was troubles.

01:54:15.050 --> 01:54:16.630
She didn't shy away from the good stuff.

01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:21.840
She didn't, she didn't, she wasn't afraid of being sort of flatterish of both Trump and RFK.

01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:23.189
She was never afraid of that.

01:54:23.260 --> 01:54:23.489
Right.

01:54:23.500 --> 01:54:24.539
She did all of those things.

01:54:24.729 --> 01:54:25.800
She took great pictures.

01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:28.140
She took great, she had great stuff on Instagram.

01:54:29.045 --> 01:54:29.585
She won.

01:54:29.604 --> 01:54:32.494
She won the day as a journalist in elections.

01:54:32.774 --> 01:54:34.604
She won this election for herself.

01:54:34.715 --> 01:54:37.685
Yeah, yeah for sure like literally Yeah, she's gonna write her ticket.

01:54:37.814 --> 01:54:38.914
Oh, yeah, she's done next.

01:54:39.055 --> 01:54:42.895
She's literally she literally can make whatever she wants out of this Out of what she built out of this.

01:54:42.944 --> 01:54:43.154
Yeah.

01:54:43.154 --> 01:54:43.475
Yeah.

01:54:43.524 --> 01:54:43.704
Yeah.

01:54:43.704 --> 01:54:51.314
Yeah and what she did with Johnny Depp, too I mean, I don't want to diminish that absolutely brilliant Absolutely brilliant woman, uh, sharp.

01:54:51.345 --> 01:54:53.765
So is there an organization for those kinds of people?

01:54:53.784 --> 01:54:59.005
I mean, it'll be collections of sub stack or those kinds of, you know, the platform thing is its own thing.

01:54:59.005 --> 01:55:01.494
I'm thinking back to the like localizing though.

01:55:01.555 --> 01:55:05.385
Like how do we get back a, I guess it could be sub stacks, right?

01:55:05.395 --> 01:55:14.385
Like I could turn my writing prowess into an investigative journalism about the business world in Northern Colorado or something.

01:55:14.385 --> 01:55:15.345
And people could pay you for that.

01:55:15.395 --> 01:55:17.255
Not me, I'm too busy.

01:55:17.284 --> 01:55:17.795
I do too many.

01:55:18.369 --> 01:55:26.069
But, you know, that, that idea, right, that you could say Somebody could become a source, at least, of legitimate journalism of the business community.

01:55:26.100 --> 01:55:28.970
Well, tell me who's reporting on City Council in Fort Collins.

01:55:29.020 --> 01:55:30.800
I don't, I have no idea.

01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:32.319
I don't even know how to learn about it.

01:55:32.329 --> 01:55:33.404
We're a town of almost 200, 000 people.

01:55:33.404 --> 01:55:33.760
I know.

01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:36.710
So how's nobody really interested in what's happening locally?

01:55:36.710 --> 01:55:37.770
It's been disastrous.

01:55:37.770 --> 01:55:39.210
It's been all these things, right?

01:55:39.210 --> 01:55:40.840
So how does nobody know?

01:55:40.850 --> 01:55:41.869
Nobody's reporting on that.

01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:42.319
Yeah.

01:55:42.635 --> 01:55:44.215
There is going to be an encouragement to that.

01:55:44.234 --> 01:55:46.234
Of course, national stories are always interesting.

01:55:46.234 --> 01:55:50.604
Of course, there's like elections are always interesting, but Johnny Depp's a localized story.

01:55:50.984 --> 01:55:51.484
Yeah.

01:55:51.604 --> 01:55:52.935
It's a story about Johnny Depp.

01:55:52.935 --> 01:55:56.444
He's famous, but it's a localized story.

01:55:56.484 --> 01:55:56.725
Right.

01:55:56.885 --> 01:55:59.414
So, and I think that's, I think that's going to be what's coming.

01:55:59.904 --> 01:56:06.255
Twitter will, this will, it will be very, very interesting to see what happens here.

01:56:06.385 --> 01:56:14.444
I'm, I hope that Twitter stakes its claim and Thankfully, if Trump wins tonight.

01:56:14.444 --> 01:56:16.225
Plants his flag in the land of free speech.

01:56:16.234 --> 01:56:18.765
This is how, this is where journalism happens.

01:56:19.414 --> 01:56:20.055
Because I think it is.

01:56:21.364 --> 01:56:24.744
Spread the word with Twitter and hold it on Substack.

01:56:26.414 --> 01:56:27.024
That's how you do it.

01:56:27.024 --> 01:56:27.435
A little bit.

01:56:27.645 --> 01:56:35.404
I, I mean, I think you do it, you get those two, whether it is, she uses Instagram, whatever it is, but well, how's truth social stock, by the way, have we looked at that?

01:56:35.404 --> 01:56:35.814
I haven't looked at it.

01:56:35.824 --> 01:56:41.215
Uh, young Jamie, would you like to look at the true social stock movements over the last 24 hours?

01:56:41.215 --> 01:56:43.875
Do we have any futures on true social stock?

01:56:44.954 --> 01:56:46.135
Oh, 3394.

01:56:46.135 --> 01:56:48.125
It looks like it's down a little bit.

01:56:48.185 --> 01:56:48.904
Oh, interesting.

01:56:51.534 --> 01:56:52.574
Well, I think that would be up.

01:56:53.614 --> 01:56:54.244
Let's see.

01:56:54.284 --> 01:56:56.404
The poly market's up to 94.

01:56:56.404 --> 01:56:57.704
3 percent for Trump right now.

01:56:57.704 --> 01:56:57.755
Yeah.

01:57:00.364 --> 01:57:08.114
It went down this, it was, it was down 20 percent it looks like this week, which would probably make an indication that he was going to win, frankly.

01:57:09.975 --> 01:57:15.314
Well, I mean, I don't know that Is it really a viable platform anyway?

01:57:15.335 --> 01:57:16.444
It's really Trump's platform.

01:57:17.845 --> 01:57:18.175
Right.

01:57:18.175 --> 01:57:19.425
It's just Trump's platform.

01:57:19.425 --> 01:57:19.854
I don't know.

01:57:19.864 --> 01:57:20.984
I've never been on it once.

01:57:21.064 --> 01:57:26.375
Maybe, uh, maybe Musk will buy it from him and Well, they may figure it through the Doge situation.

01:57:26.425 --> 01:57:27.234
Yeah, something, something.

01:57:27.234 --> 01:57:28.524
I don't know.

01:57:29.984 --> 01:57:30.854
Let's, let's call it.

01:57:30.854 --> 01:57:31.654
I think Trump's got this.

01:57:31.654 --> 01:57:32.175
I think we're good.

01:57:32.234 --> 01:57:32.545
Yeah.

01:57:32.795 --> 01:57:33.744
Uh, we're going to call it.

01:57:33.774 --> 01:57:38.305
I think I'm even going to win my 20 bucks from, uh, Lenny on the 300 electoral.

01:57:38.454 --> 01:57:40.595
We'll know late tonight, but I think, I think we've got it.

01:57:40.614 --> 01:57:47.590
And all of you listening out there that, uh, You know, voted for Harris and think that we're a couple of overblown.

01:57:47.819 --> 01:57:48.090
Yep.

01:57:48.699 --> 01:57:49.020
Male.

01:57:49.020 --> 01:57:49.699
Yeah.

01:57:49.699 --> 01:57:49.960
Yeah.

01:57:49.960 --> 01:57:50.590
Yeah.

01:57:50.590 --> 01:57:51.420
Mansplainers.

01:57:51.979 --> 01:57:53.409
Um, I love you anyway.

01:57:54.539 --> 01:58:00.020
And, uh, you know, we'll get through America needs you to just be honest about what situation is for all of us.

01:58:00.020 --> 01:58:02.949
If we're all honest, we're all honest about what's going to happen.

01:58:04.899 --> 01:58:09.130
If, if we hurt because of this, we should take honest assessment of why we lost.

01:58:10.114 --> 01:58:20.614
And if we win, we should take honest assessment about why we win and don't fall, don't fall into traps that are the traditional American planet, you know, situations, which is I was the best candidate of all time.

01:58:20.994 --> 01:58:22.784
Trump was not the best candidate of all time.

01:58:22.784 --> 01:58:28.314
At the end of the day, Trump was surrounded by a bunch of great people who he looked at it and said, the presidency is bigger than me.

01:58:28.354 --> 01:58:29.295
That's why he won tonight.

01:58:29.324 --> 01:58:29.604
Yeah.

01:58:29.885 --> 01:58:32.425
And each of those people that came around him said the same.

01:58:32.694 --> 01:58:32.895
Yep.

01:58:33.104 --> 01:58:36.635
That's why they, that's why he will win tonight when he, if he eventually wins.

01:58:37.234 --> 01:58:42.774
Harris will have eventually lost because she surrendered to the apparatus, which they said, We can get you across the line.

01:58:43.215 --> 01:58:45.024
Just don't, don't say anything stupid.

01:58:45.614 --> 01:58:47.114
Don't say, no, don't say anything stupid.

01:58:47.114 --> 01:58:50.015
Don't say anything stupid.

01:58:50.295 --> 01:58:52.284
Emerson, you're wise beyond your years.

01:58:52.994 --> 01:59:04.689
Um, I'm gonna go ahead and, uh, Say thanks to anybody that's still there on the spaces and, uh, wrap this up on the Loco Experience podcast.

01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:05.250
Thanks.

01:59:05.279 --> 01:59:05.550
Mr.

01:59:05.550 --> 01:59:06.550
Everett, it's been a pleasure again.

01:59:06.659 --> 01:59:07.079
Always fun.

01:59:07.100 --> 01:59:07.319
Thank you.

01:59:07.319 --> 01:59:07.909
Duel, Mr.

01:59:07.909 --> 01:59:08.180
Everett.

01:59:08.399 --> 01:59:08.859
Thank you.

01:59:08.939 --> 01:59:09.329
Yeah, Godspeed.

01:59:09.779 --> 01:59:10.130
You too.